Before you compare, "stealing" music to "stealing" a car, consider the following:
Can you touch a car? Is a car a physical thing, tangible?
Now, can you say the same for music? What's the difference between a $2.50 blank CD from Pick N Pay, and a "%Band Name%" CD ? To me, very little. They are physically tangible only at one layer: the physical, CD layer. The music is just a bunch of ridges and gaps.
This thing is not an issue. Piracy implies pirates, sea rogues who plunder and steal. Please don't call copying a bunch of words and music "piracy". This is not an issue, in my mind.
Just because of your "traditional" viewpoint, that's no doubt inspired by the Corporate Mindset (tm), don't think that I will part with what little cash I have for a bunch of ridges and gaps on an otherwise pretty normal data medium.
Take Napster down by all means, a lot of people still won't waste their money on CD's. The only time I buy CD's are as gifts when I really can't think of anything else to buy. TBH, I don't think that supporting a bunch of snotty shits like these "artists" is a good cause anyway. They're rude and won't even talk to "commoners" like us. Because they have too many "important" things to worry about, is no license for treating the very people who made them rich like shit. Because they've done this since pop stars have been popular is no license for continuing this behaviour. Because they have been able to become ultra-wealthy from the pockets of commoners like us is no license for this ridiculous debate.
"Artists" are arrogant and I have no sympathy for them at all. That current laws defend their "intellectual rights" is a feeble veneer over the truth of the fabric of society. The entire system that supports this nonsense is a thin veneer over the truth. And the truth is that physical things should be priced, no argument, but songs on CD's aren't physical - only the CD's themselves are.
You're right. If something isn't done, this world is heading towards a Big Brew scenario. Especially with things like Internet II and various IP logging methods, Echleon, etc. Of course, the best solution to these problems lie in encrypted proxies. Like Zeroknowledge.Before you start jumping up and down about pornography, think about this: Is a non-pornographic world really enough to justify a Big Brew scenario ? I don't think so. Who knows, Big Brew could be logging your IP right now.
Hey listen, buddy. If you believe that the Big Brew theory is correct, support M$, and other corporations. Anonymity is basically what freedom is all about. If you can't be anonymous - if the system forces you to be registered, (sure, you can still choose to register in a non Big Brew system) - then you're heading towards a Big Brew scenario.
We call it Maths in South Africa, too. Incidently, I knew a South African girl getting D's in SA. When she went to the US as an exchange student, she thought it was a total joke. She went to tourist destinations, taking pictures and generally messing around, and still managed to get straight A's at the US "school". So much for the US "education system". Btw, Brits - yours isn't that much better - sure it is better, no doubt...but....wellll....too many glue-sniffers, etc, so don't get cocky:)
I'm not going to say that all South African education is brilliant, certainly it's better in some areas than others. In most of the white areas, it is very good, though.
But we must not be fanatics. People who write closed source stuff arnt neccesary bad guys. Many of the games that i like most (Curse of Monkey island for example) are comersial software
Games that are closed source aren't serious. If you have an operating system, communications software, business software, etc, that's closed source, that's a big problem. I can't believe that you can't see the difference.
if you mean that.com is American, you're wrong. "Forgein" companies can host sites in their *forgein* countries with the TLD.com. How will you "differentiate" that ? Sure, can't argue that if the company chooses to use a TLD like.uk,.de, etc...then you can differentiate. But there's no law stating that.com is American-only. It's not.
ever heard of commands like chmod, chown, etc? (Or whatever their equivalents are in Windows). Noone is fscking going to delete anything off my PC's disks.
Maybe you should try the OUA Vulnerability Proof of Concept web page. You'll see quite quickly how simplying having that damn paperclip (not even running) is one of the worse security holes to come along... not anything like leaving a dozen x-terms open, all running vi or emacs. Don't forget to set your macro virus protection back after you do the demo... not like it would be of any help against a worm/virus using this exploit.
There's no file. it doesn't work. What is this ? I'm using Netscape 6 P1 and Sun StarOffice 5.1. I clicked on it and nothing happened. This is a scam!!! Don't go to this site, it's a ploy to gain more hits on teh site, nothing more. It doesn't do anything. It's fake, fake fake.
Phat ? I can't think why being phat would be a good thing. Obesity is the #3 cause of death in the world today. Being Phat is NOT a good thing.
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Zico, can you produce an affidavit verifying the tripe that you've posted here, or are you just pulling it out of your nose and trying to annoy the other Slashdot readers as usual?
In Finland we our economy is greatly depending on Nokia's success.
Well, I have a Nokia communications peice, a 5110....and it doesn't seem to work properly. I tried to contact the managing director of the Nokia corporation to complain about it, but I couldn't reach him. It seems when ever I try to send SMS to a remote communications peice, it says: "Message could not be sent - This time." So I waited for a few minutes, and it came up with the same thing.
Finns make good gadgets
See above. Not really. The phone part works fine, but the SMS part is what concerns me.
Impressive. If I were you I'd put a pot of fresh coffee on. Those guys with the sunglasses pulling up outside your house right about now will probably want to visit for a while.
"Guys with the sunglasses?" Excuse me, but I do believe that you've been watching too much TV and really need to get a grip on reality.
Also, Windows Eudora, Pegasus, Netscape (ack) etc.
I certainly hope that that "ack" was acknowledging the superiority of Netscape's Messenger Mail system. The new Mozilla is even better, and certainly I use it for all of my mail requirements.
I don't think that Linux/Macintosh machines are totally invunerable to this sort of attack. How hard would it be for me to write a simple shell script (Mac users replace shell script with AppleScript) that finds all of the email addresses in a users pine/elm folders
Can't argue with the Mac side of things, since I've only seen a Mac from a distance, in a store, never used one. But a shell script that would do similar things to the Love Letter Virus ? No, I don't think so.
First of all, you'd need to be able to overwrite files all over the HDD. Unless you executed this is root, that wouldn't happen. And that's even if the person in question executed the script in the first place. You can't trigger shell scripts by previewing AFAIK:) And before you start crying out that Outlook is more powerful because of this "feature", please provide an affidavit stating the difference in the productivity/virus damage ratio between Outlook and non-Outlook clients.
Would you care to produce an affidavit stating the number of viruses there have been for linux, and how fast they spread in the equivalent time period of windows viruses, specifically email-transmitted viruses?
Unless you can provide the affidavit, I suggest you shup up.
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Think about this:
Before you compare, "stealing" music to "stealing" a car, consider the following:Can you touch a car? Is a car a physical thing, tangible?
Now, can you say the same for music? What's the difference between a $2.50 blank CD from Pick N Pay, and a "%Band Name%" CD ? To me, very little. They are physically tangible only at one layer: the physical, CD layer. The music is just a bunch of ridges and gaps.
This thing is not an issue. Piracy implies pirates, sea rogues who plunder and steal. Please don't call copying a bunch of words and music "piracy". This is not an issue, in my mind.
Just because of your "traditional" viewpoint, that's no doubt inspired by the Corporate Mindset (tm), don't think that I will part with what little cash I have for a bunch of ridges and gaps on an otherwise pretty normal data medium.
Take Napster down by all means, a lot of people still won't waste their money on CD's. The only time I buy CD's are as gifts when I really can't think of anything else to buy. TBH, I don't think that supporting a bunch of snotty shits like these "artists" is a good cause anyway. They're rude and won't even talk to "commoners" like us. Because they have too many "important" things to worry about, is no license for treating the very people who made them rich like shit. Because they've done this since pop stars have been popular is no license for continuing this behaviour. Because they have been able to become ultra-wealthy from the pockets of commoners like us is no license for this ridiculous debate.
"Artists" are arrogant and I have no sympathy for them at all. That current laws defend their "intellectual rights" is a feeble veneer over the truth of the fabric of society. The entire system that supports this nonsense is a thin veneer over the truth. And the truth is that physical things should be priced, no argument, but songs on CD's aren't physical - only the CD's themselves are.
We call it Maths in South Africa, too. Incidently, I knew a South African girl getting D's in SA. When she went to the US as an exchange student, she thought it was a total joke. She went to tourist destinations, taking pictures and generally messing around, and still managed to get straight A's at the US "school". So much for the US "education system". Btw, Brits - yours isn't that much better - sure it is better, no doubt...but....wellll....too many glue-sniffers, etc, so don't get cocky :)
I'm not going to say that all South African education is brilliant, certainly it's better in some areas than others. In most of the white areas, it is very good, though.I thought it stood for Australian Soup Pot
Hey CompuWorld! How's it going, CompuWorld :) ? Nice mp3 thingy!
Games that are closed source aren't serious. If you have an operating system, communications software, business software, etc, that's closed source, that's a big problem. I can't believe that you can't see the difference.
A genuine affidavit, signed by the party concerned ?
I very much doubt that.
if you mean that .com is American, you're wrong. "Forgein" companies can host sites in their *forgein* countries with the TLD .com. How will you "differentiate" that ? Sure, can't argue that if the company chooses to use a TLD like .uk, .de, etc...then you can differentiate. But there's no law stating that .com is American-only. It's not.
Can you provide an affidavit stating that it was God who wrote the Bible ?
ever heard of commands like chmod, chown, etc? (Or whatever their equivalents are in Windows). Noone is fscking going to delete anything off my PC's disks.
Squeak! Squeak! Squeak!.
This will be the technology used in embedded applications in the future ! It 's too cute:)
Maybe you should try the OUA Vulnerability Proof of Concept web page. You'll see quite quickly how simplying having that damn paperclip (not even running) is one of the worse security holes to come along... not anything like leaving a dozen x-terms open, all running vi or emacs. Don't forget to set your macro virus protection back after you do the demo... not like it would be of any help against a worm/virus using this exploit.
There's no file. it doesn't work. What is this ? I'm using Netscape 6 P1 and Sun StarOffice 5.1. I clicked on it and nothing happened. This is a scam!!! Don't go to this site, it's a ploy to gain more hits on teh site, nothing more. It doesn't do anything. It's fake, fake fake.
Phat ? I can't think why being phat would be a good thing. Obesity is the #3 cause of death in the world today. Being Phat is NOT a good thing.
Zico, can you produce an affidavit verifying the tripe that you've posted here, or are you just pulling it out of your nose and trying to annoy the other Slashdot readers as usual?
In Finland we our economy is greatly depending on Nokia's success.
Well, I have a Nokia communications peice, a 5110....and it doesn't seem to work properly. I tried to contact the managing director of the Nokia corporation to complain about it, but I couldn't reach him. It seems when ever I try to send SMS to a remote communications peice, it says: "Message could not be sent - This time." So I waited for a few minutes, and it came up with the same thing.
Finns make good gadgets
See above. Not really. The phone part works fine, but the SMS part is what concerns me.
Thanks, cheers.
Can you provide an affidavit stating that the AC in question was in fact NOT a member of the Microsoft Corporation's development team ?
Impressive. If I were you I'd put a pot of fresh coffee on. Those guys with the sunglasses pulling up outside your house right about now will probably want to visit for a while.
"Guys with the sunglasses?" Excuse me, but I do believe that you've been watching too much TV and really need to get a grip on reality.
* How enlightened are the end users?
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If they use the latest ENLIGHTENMENT window manager, they're very enlightened
was it a coincidence that they upgraded just before this happened ?
Also, Windows Eudora, Pegasus, Netscape (ack) etc.
I certainly hope that that "ack" was acknowledging the superiority of Netscape's Messenger Mail system. The new Mozilla is even better, and certainly I use it for all of my mail requirements.
I don't think that Linux/Macintosh machines are totally invunerable to this sort of attack. How hard would it be for me to write a simple shell script (Mac users replace shell script with AppleScript) that finds all of the email addresses in a users pine/elm folders
Can't argue with the Mac side of things, since I've only seen a Mac from a distance, in a store, never used one. But a shell script that would do similar things to the Love Letter Virus ? No, I don't think so.
First of all, you'd need to be able to overwrite files all over the HDD. Unless you executed this is root, that wouldn't happen. And that's even if the person in question executed the script in the first place. You can't trigger shell scripts by previewing AFAIK:) And before you start crying out that Outlook is more powerful because of this "feature", please provide an affidavit stating the difference in the productivity/virus damage ratio between Outlook and non-Outlook clients.
Would you care to produce an affidavit stating the number of viruses there have been for linux, and how fast they spread in the equivalent time period of windows viruses, specifically email-transmitted viruses?
Unless you can provide the affidavit, I suggest you shup up.
Have the ESA got their satellite up yet ?
What about the Smooth sounds of the Connells? The most underrated band of all time from the late 80s/early 90s.
They were real music.