Does 4.0.0 ? The XServer (experimental) for i810 still gives em a 320x200 res 8bpp under 3.3.5. This is just not good, because we've just received a bunch of PC's with i810s in them:(:(:(. No Linux here, I guess, unless we buy different Video cards.
A kid walks into school. The school rules state that the kid must be at school at 8:00am sharp. The kid doesn't like this and starts up a union of students (an illegal union) that all decide to pitch up at 12:00pm instead. The kid gets expelled from the school, but hte trend has already started: all the kids are pitching up at 12pm. Soon, kids all around the country are pitching up at 12pm. Are you going to expel all the kids ?
I'm not a Mac person, but I was under the impression that Darwin was the BSD4.4 variant that formed the core OS, while Cocoa, Charcoal, etc etc, were the interfaces that were glued on top of that core BSD4.4 variant.
The K7'll be faster. I'm terribly sorry. I think Motorola chips are cute. I even used to have a Motorola cellular telephone. But factz are factz. Don't take it too hard. No empire lasts forever. It won't even matter in a few decades. All this will seem like old technology, and all arguments over technology like this will seem quite humourous. The archeologists of 3000 will say:
"I say ol chap! look at this crap!" (pointing to a PIII and G4 lying next to eachother). Eventually, they'll pack up, leave the excavation site, and go home to their wives.
"You'll never believe what we saw today. Ancient technology." He'll go on to describe the chips to his wife, she'll be amazed at the simplicity of the chips.
The next day, he'll go to the site, and scale the chips for himself, so that one day, when he has a child of his own, he can say to that child: "This is an ancient peice of technology, guard it well, for it is a classic." His parter will take the other chip. Both would become heirlooms to their respective family lines.
All that was long ago, though. Currently, no technology actively survives. Only 2 chips - a PIII and a G4. They have been passed down from generation to generation. The world is now a desert wasteland. But the man you see before you wears a talisman containing a single chip - the G4. To him, it's no longer a simple, ancient peice of technology. But a marvel of another age.
nah, there 's only one test of processing power: Squeak Since it's platorm independent, you'll get a truer reflection of what the case really is. (course, you'll still need to worry to a certain extent about the state of the C compilers for the various platforms), but it'll be a better indication than Photoshop, for sure.
Duh, because Outlook is most of the market. If Linux had more than 0.001% of the mainstream desktop market (note the phrasing), then Linux would have a decent e-mail reader. You don't seem to understand that a lot of users want to be able to execute attachments, and it's very convenient at times. It's only that Linux has no decent mailreaders that it's "protected".
At work, I'm running 98 SE as my desktop system. I'm running Netscape as my mail client. Did I ever mention Linux ? I don't remember doing so. I do run Linux on other machines, though, and funnily enough, it has a mail client which I like quite a lot : Netscape:) Now, before you get on your llama-like, Microsoft high horse and start bashing Netscape, would you care to produce the afore-mentioned affidavit stating the difference in productivity/virus damage ratio between Outlook and non-Outlook clients?
Forget all this trash that's happening with regard to antitrust laws. Sure, it's a free economy - they should be allowed to keep competing like this and producing products like Outlook and Exchange. However, I do have one suggestion.
Ban the law that allows them to create a "as-is" license agreement clause. If the software fails and causes damage, allow the company/individual who was damaged to sue Microsoft for whatever the judge/jury thinks is a fair amount in relation to the damage Microsoft's buggy software caused.
Dear Reality Master,Please explain why non-Outlook users weren't as badly effected, and if you come up with some "Microsoft features == increased productivity", produce a document containing Productivity Loss/Virus Damage comparisons between Outlook and Non-Outlook Email clients.
Yep. Sounds like a teacher who thinks a student won't become anything (highly self-importation incantation mode): The world is broken into various groups of people. Unfortunately, if you don't do well at school, you won't make anything of yourself. This is just the way the world is. You must accept that.
Sorry, buddy. I just don't believe that people are pre-destined to succeed. I know some religious fanatics are Lutherans who believe that everything is determined before you're born - maybe you're one of them, maybe you're not. But really. This is ridiculous. In almost all areas, especially intelligence, there are too many grey areas to be certain about anything. You can't just point at a kid and say: "You can't do this, this and that." And point to another one and say: "You can do this, this and that, but not this."
Sounds like you want to become a Nazi state where kids with certain DNA patterns are trained from 2yrs old to do certain functions. Considering the opinion you're arguing against, I wouldn't put it past you.
Music has a place in society, but it isn't something to be awed and revered, and neither are its practitioners. Why should music be held in such high reverence? Why is it that singers get millions while teachers scrape by on meagre pay? Music fanatics, shut up. Don't be such whiny morons. I'll download MP3's if I want to. You're probably the same people who want to see 0.004% of the world extremely rich, 90% poor, the remaining percentage persecuted for being different. Sounds like a great plan - a corporate enterprise to supress the world. FUCK OFF. I DONT WANT TO BUY YOUR CDS AND MAKE YOUR CORPORATE RECORD LABEL RICHER.
Perhaps if they had a more understandable syntax, Java wouldn't be so bad. I downloaded the latest JDK a few weeks ago and tried in futility for 20 minutes to get a Java program compiled. It just didn't want to accept anything that I wrote. Unfortunately, I can't recommend Java to the Man in THe Street until they work on the syntax, because it's really finicky and unfriendly.
First of all, they should change the language syntax itself. I don't know about you, but I've never managed to get a Java program to compile cleanly, so after about 20 minutes I sort of gave up on actually getting anything compiled under Java. I'm not denying that it's powerful, I saw an X client written in Java a while ago - very impressive. However, if the syntax is too taxing for most users, I don't think it has a chance. There just doesn't seem to be any solid, comprehensible documentation available.
Music has a place in society, but it isn't worth as much as you think. It's just singing. Copying files of them singing doesn't even compare to real crime. Get real. They're just a bunch of wimpy whiners and I'm going to laugh when their suing attempt goes down the toilet.
Sure. It's not legal to distribute this stunk freely...But the question, my dear ZicoKnows, is is that law a good law? Are these laws good laws? Is the system a good system? Not the American system, but the current human system? It's a system bent on ridiculous traditions and heirarchy. Madonna, Brittany(Shitney?)Spears, etc etc, are all multimillioniares - for doing what? Singing? I agree that singing should have a place in society, but why should it be valued so highly? The entire human system needs a rethink and overhaul. Mark this is as flamebait if you will, but nothing I've said here is inaccurate. Thanks.
Whatever you think you know about these chips is irrelevant. These chips are dangerous terrorists that must be brought to justice as soon as possible. If you help us bring these chips to justice, we will wipe the slate clean. All we ask is your cooperation in bringing a known set of chips to justice.
I don't usually to reply to replied posts, but I want to clear up a few things here, Mr Wizard. My female collie and I have discussed it, and she thinks that I should reply, as to correct some of the assumptions you've made here.
Something bugs me about this post - you claim that all this hardware has "been thoroughly tested by the Microsoft Corporation". Lets see dual P3, 80GB RAID array. No, I don't think you are using hardware that was around in 1996, when the code for that NT4 CD you used was released.
I know the tendency to blame M$ is very strong and often justified. But how can you expect them to have drivers for equipment to be built in the future? Had you RTFM, you would have realized that you needed to customize your install disks, with the correct drivers.
I did in fact use all driver disks provided by the OEM for the dual P3-600 in question. The fact that the system crashes several times during the installation and again during the video card driver installation is testimony to the futility of the argument that "incorrect drivers" were the cause of the problem here! Even my female collie noted this. She could probably also write a better system than NT 4 (yes, it was NT 4). When even a female realizes the problem, you know there really is a problem.
A good example is the tulip driver that comes with Red Hat. It didn't work! Only after I found out(after several frustrating unsucessful tries) that I had to download the C code and compile the driver did I get my ethernet card to work. Now you tell me, when was the last time you had to compile a driver for NT?
Funny you should mention that. I assisted my father in installing Red Hat the other day. He claimed that he couldn't get the NIC to work. After asking about the steps he'd taken, I couldn't understand the problem. The driver installed was Tulip, I thought that might have somethign to do with it. The problem turned out to be this: The network in/etc/rc.d/init.d/ hadn't been restarted properly. I instructed him to issue the command and the network came up. No problem.
I think most people would agree that with changing technology, dynamic corporations and rollercoster-esque stock markets, software politics, and a huge number of other factors, there should be some universal way of accessing hardware, which is powerful, yet not overcomplicated, fun and yet useful, fast yet flexible. It's estimated that in 20 or 30 years, comptuer literacy will be almost as important as conventional literacy, in many areas, more important. The key to true computer literacy is programming, and finally there's a language that combines all of these factors: ease of use, portability, openness, and flexibility - Python. That language will soon replace conventional UIs.
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Does 4.0.0 ? The XServer (experimental) for i810 still gives em a 320x200 res 8bpp under 3.3.5. This is just not good, because we've just received a bunch of PC's with i810s in them :( :( :(. No Linux here, I guess, unless we buy different Video cards.
A kid walks into school. The school rules state that the kid must be at school at 8:00am sharp. The kid doesn't like this and starts up a union of students (an illegal union) that all decide to pitch up at 12:00pm instead. The kid gets expelled from the school, but hte trend has already started: all the kids are pitching up at 12pm. Soon, kids all around the country are pitching up at 12pm. Are you going to expel all the kids ?
Not even my female collie would use one of these.
I'm not a Mac person, but I was under the impression that Darwin was the BSD4.4 variant that formed the core OS, while Cocoa, Charcoal, etc etc, were the interfaces that were glued on top of that core BSD4.4 variant.
Which unfortuantely means, guys, that....:
G4 500Mhz != K7 750Mhz.
The K7'll be faster. I'm terribly sorry. I think Motorola chips are cute. I even used to have a Motorola cellular telephone. But factz are factz. Don't take it too hard. No empire lasts forever. It won't even matter in a few decades. All this will seem like old technology, and all arguments over technology like this will seem quite humourous. The archeologists of 3000 will say:
"I say ol chap! look at this crap!" (pointing to a PIII and G4 lying next to eachother). Eventually, they'll pack up, leave the excavation site, and go home to their wives.
"You'll never believe what we saw today. Ancient technology." He'll go on to describe the chips to his wife, she'll be amazed at the simplicity of the chips.
The next day, he'll go to the site, and scale the chips for himself, so that one day, when he has a child of his own, he can say to that child: "This is an ancient peice of technology, guard it well, for it is a classic." His parter will take the other chip. Both would become heirlooms to their respective family lines.
All that was long ago, though. Currently, no technology actively survives. Only 2 chips - a PIII and a G4. They have been passed down from generation to generation. The world is now a desert wasteland. But the man you see before you wears a talisman containing a single chip - the G4. To him, it's no longer a simple, ancient peice of technology. But a marvel of another age.
....A Beowulf Cluster of these??????
nah, there 's only one test of processing power:
Squeak
Since it's platorm independent, you'll get a truer reflection of what the case really is. (course, you'll still need to worry to a certain extent about the state of the C compilers for the various platforms), but it'll be a better indication than Photoshop, for sure.
To avoid being split up the government should force Microsoft to opensource all it's software under a true opensource license ..... BSD)
:-D
Great idea. Then they could just take the BSD source code an rerelease it as propreitry software
Duh, because Outlook is most of the market. If Linux had more than 0.001% of the mainstream desktop market (note the phrasing), then Linux would have a decent e-mail reader. You don't seem to understand that a lot of users want to be able to execute attachments, and it's very convenient at times. It's only that Linux has no decent mailreaders that it's "protected".
:) Now, before you get on your llama-like, Microsoft high horse and start bashing Netscape, would you care to produce the afore-mentioned affidavit stating the difference in productivity/virus damage ratio between Outlook and non-Outlook clients?
At work, I'm running 98 SE as my desktop system. I'm running Netscape as my mail client. Did I ever mention Linux ? I don't remember doing so. I do run Linux on other machines, though, and funnily enough, it has a mail client which I like quite a lot : Netscape
Forget all this trash that's happening with regard to antitrust laws. Sure, it's a free economy - they should be allowed to keep competing like this and producing products like Outlook and Exchange. However, I do have one suggestion.
Ban the law that allows them to create a "as-is" license agreement clause. If the software fails and causes damage, allow the company/individual who was damaged to sue Microsoft for whatever the judge/jury thinks is a fair amount in relation to the damage Microsoft's buggy software caused.
Dear Reality Master,Please explain why non-Outlook users weren't as badly effected, and if you come up with some "Microsoft features == increased productivity", produce a document containing Productivity Loss/Virus Damage comparisons between Outlook and Non-Outlook Email clients.
Thank you.
Yep. Sounds like a teacher who thinks a student won't become anything (highly self-importation incantation mode): The world is broken into various groups of people. Unfortunately, if you don't do well at school, you won't make anything of yourself. This is just the way the world is. You must accept that.
Sorry, buddy. I just don't believe that people are pre-destined to succeed. I know some religious fanatics are Lutherans who believe that everything is determined before you're born - maybe you're one of them, maybe you're not. But really. This is ridiculous. In almost all areas, especially intelligence, there are too many grey areas to be certain about anything. You can't just point at a kid and say: "You can't do this, this and that." And point to another one and say: "You can do this, this and that, but not this."
Sounds like you want to become a Nazi state where kids with certain DNA patterns are trained from 2yrs old to do certain functions. Considering the opinion you're arguing against, I wouldn't put it past you.
Sarcasm doesn't become you.
This is just stupid, this comment of yours.
Music has a place in society, but it isn't something to be awed and revered, and neither are its practitioners. Why should music be held in such high reverence? Why is it that singers get millions while teachers scrape by on meagre pay? Music fanatics, shut up. Don't be such whiny morons. I'll download MP3's if I want to. You're probably the same people who want to see 0.004% of the world extremely rich, 90% poor, the remaining percentage persecuted for being different. Sounds like a great plan - a corporate enterprise to supress the world. FUCK OFF. I DONT WANT TO BUY YOUR CDS AND MAKE YOUR CORPORATE RECORD LABEL RICHER.
Perhaps if they had a more understandable syntax, Java wouldn't be so bad. I downloaded the latest JDK a few weeks ago and tried in futility for 20 minutes to get a Java program compiled. It just didn't want to accept anything that I wrote. Unfortunately, I can't recommend Java to the Man in THe Street until they work on the syntax, because it's really finicky and unfriendly.
First of all, they should change the language syntax itself. I don't know about you, but I've never managed to get a Java program to compile cleanly, so after about 20 minutes I sort of gave up on actually getting anything compiled under Java. I'm not denying that it's powerful, I saw an X client written in Java a while ago - very impressive. However, if the syntax is too taxing for most users, I don't think it has a chance. There just doesn't seem to be any solid, comprehensible documentation available.
What about QNX, Corel Corporation.....Stormix??? These are all good things. Canada is a good country.
Beowulf Cluster solving the problem ?????
A BEOWULF CLUSTER of these???????
What would Richard Stallman think about this ?
Music has a place in society, but it isn't worth as much as you think. It's just singing. Copying files of them singing doesn't even compare to real crime. Get real. They're just a bunch of wimpy whiners and I'm going to laugh when their suing attempt goes down the toilet.
Sure. It's not legal to distribute this stunk freely...But the question, my dear ZicoKnows, is is that law a good law? Are these laws good laws? Is the system a good system? Not the American system, but the current human system? It's a system bent on ridiculous traditions and heirarchy. Madonna, Brittany(Shitney?)Spears, etc etc, are all multimillioniares - for doing what? Singing? I agree that singing should have a place in society, but why should it be valued so highly? The entire human system needs a rethink and overhaul. Mark this is as flamebait if you will, but nothing I've said here is inaccurate. Thanks.
Whatever you think you know about these chips is irrelevant. These chips are dangerous terrorists that must be brought to justice as soon as possible. If you help us bring these chips to justice, we will wipe the slate clean. All we ask is your cooperation in bringing a known set of chips to justice.
From your first post I gathered you took the CD install route, which doesn't work if you need to load custom drivers during the install.
Absolutely correct. I figured this out quickly (hehe), but the crashes in question happened after that.
thank you for clearing that up and I hope you didn't take anything personally
No problem at all. I didn't take it personally, I just wanted to clarify a few things.
next time i'll try to be more careful if I don't agree with a post.
And I'll try and express myself more clearly:)
I don't usually to reply to replied posts, but I want to clear up a few things here, Mr Wizard. My female collie and I have discussed it, and she thinks that I should reply, as to correct some of the assumptions you've made here.
/etc/rc.d/init.d/ hadn't been restarted properly. I instructed him to issue the command and the network came up. No problem.
Something bugs me about this post - you claim that all this hardware has "been thoroughly tested by the Microsoft Corporation". Lets see dual P3, 80GB RAID array. No, I don't think you are using hardware that was around in 1996, when the code for that NT4 CD you used was released.
I know the tendency to blame M$ is very strong and often justified. But how can you expect them to have drivers for equipment to be built in the future? Had you RTFM, you would have realized that you needed to customize your install disks, with the correct drivers.
I did in fact use all driver disks provided by the OEM for the dual P3-600 in question. The fact that the system crashes several times during the installation and again during the video card driver installation is testimony to the futility of the argument that "incorrect drivers" were the cause of the problem here! Even my female collie noted this. She could probably also write a better system than NT 4 (yes, it was NT 4). When even a female realizes the problem, you know there really is a problem.
A good example is the tulip driver that comes with Red Hat. It didn't work! Only after I found out(after several frustrating unsucessful tries) that I had to download the C code and compile the driver did I get my ethernet card to work. Now you tell me, when was the last time you had to compile a driver for NT?
Funny you should mention that. I assisted my father in installing Red Hat the other day. He claimed that he couldn't get the NIC to work. After asking about the steps he'd taken, I couldn't understand the problem. The driver installed was Tulip, I thought that might have somethign to do with it. The problem turned out to be this: The network in
I think most people would agree that with changing technology, dynamic corporations and rollercoster-esque stock markets, software politics, and a huge number of other factors, there should be some universal way of accessing hardware, which is powerful, yet not overcomplicated, fun and yet useful, fast yet flexible. It's estimated that in 20 or 30 years, comptuer literacy will be almost as important as conventional literacy, in many areas, more important. The key to true computer literacy is programming, and finally there's a language that combines all of these factors: ease of use, portability, openness, and flexibility - Python. That language will soon replace conventional UIs.