I got one of those atari in a joystick things this year and played pong with a friend for 8 hours straight. I don't think I blinked the entire time, since my eyes were ready to bleed...
You guys and your new fangled graphics, and WAV/PCM audio..... Get off my lawn!!!
Re:Who writes this sh1t?
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Yes I know I misspelled 1/2 of the words in that post...
Who writes this sh1t?
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You've got to be delusional to say the word quality with anything associated with ReHat! All the code is tainted, nothing is built from direct sources, and nothing is current. What a joke. A bad one at that..... Soemthing like saying how Microsoft makes the most secure, bug free, up-to-date OS in the world...
I suggest you eat that dead tree rather than read it, at least you'll get something out of it that's useful. Hopefully toxic shock..
I would shy away from software... There are Raid controllers out there that will span a raid across multiple controllers, and multiple machines. LSI has some nice ones. You can put together a ton of NO-O/S servers with the raid controllers, and interlink them all doing a hardware raid across the machines. Only one machine {preferable the main node} needs an O/S and then you can attach it to the network through that O/S.
GUI is nice and all, but a command line one would work much better with procmail filters.. As well as just about every other kind of script I would assume...
Ohh, wait that was two words, so now I owe you for the second... I guess that makes us even then... {much sarcasm} Also I find it amusing I had to post this anyway, thanks for the laugh...
Ohh, ywah I forgot to throw in the obligatory "I'm quaking in my boots"...
I forgot to add this was 2 years ago, so this linux news is NOTHING NEW for them. Also I forgot to add I can post entire list of Linux vendors, and developers that the company INTENTIONALLY screwed.
It's no secret I was the one who took over the linux projects at Digital Domain, and set up thier render farms. I created the Intel render farms, using Slackware, and I even got Patrick Volkerding to write a boot loader for the SGI 320's and 540's so we could run it on our workstations too.
I took the alpha render farm, revamped it to an NFS-root diskless cluster running Alpha-Slack. I worked on it for a year and a half, and I took a vacation and was let go WHILE I was on vacation.
Michael Taylor, and Jeff Stringer took credit for my work, and my ideas. Both constantly stood in the way of progress on anything that had to do with linux while I was there, and neither deserves any of the credit they have recieved for my work.
I ask that the entire slashdot community boycott any film, even remotely worked on by Digital Domain, it is a 20th century sweat shop located in Venice, California.
-- Sir Ace
Right up into the pointe where you get a panic, unable to mount root file system, because your raid dirvers aren't turned on..... Loose the Redhat. Slack up;)
Does everyone on earth but me user the damn xconfig? Some of use still use real terminals, {not xterms} and menuconfig and config work nicely... I do admit you may have to run config several times if you turn on lower list options but hey... They work!!! {Dons Asbestos Armour}
Oh, good another benchmark... If you seem so apt to pointe out some things broke, maybe you should troll through the code, and see ***Where*** it broke. Then maybe submit a nice E-Mail to Linus {make sure to pronounce it right in the E-Mail:)} and say: you made this cool fix but it broke this: here is the fix. Then you benchmark might have two lines one of which will not have a y'=0... {end rant}
Re:The data from the benchmarks is pasted here:
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I have a spare deathstar lying around tell me the coordinates of your homeworld so I may vaporize it please!
It is simple, tar -xvzf linux-{current}.tar.gz. cd linux; make menuconfig; make dep bzImage modules modules_install Assuming you can do a bzImage on your platform.... Anyway, It's not so hard, you just need to know what the hardware in your machine is, and what you actually want to work out of that hardware, then turn it on. {grin}
Ex. employers are just that, you don't have a contract with them, and they are not obligated to pay you. Always discuss payment before even hinting you'll 'help them out of a bind'!!! If they really need you make sure they comensate you, they will be less likely to call you daily thinking you will help them out.
I built a 116 node cluster at my last job, and it was a diskless node setup that booted from the network and used NFS-root. Although linuxBIOS would have been cool it's not needed if a machine has SRM {yes as in alpha} or PXE network cards.
If the only reason they went to LinuxBIOS was to boot off of the network maybe they should examine the date on the first copy of the HOWTO-NFS-Root and realise it has been going on for a LONG TIME!
oop. I stand corrected... I did use the gcc compiler to compile the kernel {and this does imply that I needed glibc libs to do it}, **however** it is **not** part of the dist.
The part about me getting no help from them on trying to make things work on an unsupported platform/cross-compile also stands.
Not to mention it is going to start a flame war of nuclear proportions.... The Asbestos armor won't help with this one...
Secondly, I wrote Daydream Linux {runs on the Dreamcast sh-4} and I damn sure didn't use any GNU tools for that. They talk about 'cooperation' in their FAQ, but I got no help from them when I needed and asked for it. {from GNU/*} The dist has none of their tools, and if I hear them try to call it Daydream GNU/Linux I am all for going to **war** against the FSF. From now on the EFF, is the only one I will be donating to, after seeing that this is the end result of donating to the FSF for years.
Let me put on my asbestos armor and get this going:
I'm really suprised that Bill Gates himself actually tried linux for 3 years;)
{sarcastic grin}{yes that was kindof a joke}
I only have a couple of complaints, about this article, mostly technical though. Everyone needs to decide what they like the best, if you don't think linux suits you try something else.
But:
Not much credit was given to the fact that he started when things weren't driven for simplicity. Linux was hard to use, and still can be, given you are working on something non-trivial. However, he didn't seem to notice that after time his dists were getting 'better'. It seems the comparisons were just this was better than that.... Which is a bad way to judge anything, even virii like windows...
Also, the hardware mentioned was a k6-233, a pentium calss machine, I didn't read anything about a hardware/CPU upgrade, but I can tell you right now, not even running X completely out of swap will it be slower than XP's GUI. I think there was a neglect to relate an upgrade somewhere in the 'XP was faster'.
Another pointe:
Whoever wrote this seems to be forgeting something, or just didn't know them. Most of us who work on *Linux/*BSD do it day in and day out, we forget that simple things to us like adding hdx=ide-scsi as a kernel paramater isn't trivial or common knowledge to a beginner. Although we try se don't always remember or get them done right away. Had he stuck with it, and tried just a little harder, I think he would have noticed the things he wanted to see.
For as much as I hate both dists, both RedHat 7.3 and the new SuSE both autodetect CDRWs.. Even Slackware 8.1 has some really cool stuff over other dists, it's all about how much you really want to try.
I think the whole pointe of this is that, that is EXACTLY the problem. The average Joe has to try and has to put effort into it, nothing else in this world comes easy, why should your OS? Windows might be more simple, but look at all you are FORCED to give up in the EULAs, and in all the downtime. For us, things are different, we don't try, we just 'do', we are so used to just makeing things work that we don't even consider it to be 'trying' anymore. I drive around in my car with a server in the trunk. It has USB and ethernet feeds to all the passengers, and a wireless setup too. I drive back and forth from Vegas to LA twice a week. I can watch DVDs, and play multiplayer games, browse the web, and check my E-Mail, when I am not driving. I didn't have to try to make it work, I just did it."wizardsworks.org/chandleg/carputer" {in case you don't beleive me}
It only took me a day to setup the machine, it still takes me an entire day to setup a Windows box to do the exact same thing.
Maybe I am a bigot, I never thought I was, I've never told anyone they 'needed' to use Slackware over another dist because it was my favorite. I've never refused to work on a box that had RedHat installed on it. But I have expected one thing, if you are going to do something, that you actually put forth the effort and actually do it. Tinkering isn't enough, even if it is for a few years. You may learn a lot, but without the effort and a completion of something you get disheartened at stop working on it. Which I think was the case here.
I'm not asking to learn how to read the kernel source, nor to write your own dist like some of us. {DayDream Linux for the Dreamcast/sh-4} You complained about not enough cool cdr-tools, there are a dozen tk frontends to cdrecord, not to mention at least that many standalone utils. How hard could you have looked to only find one you liked?
Maybe I am a bigot...
If you give it your all and something doesn't work for you, so be it at least you can say you tried. But if you tinker and just half-ass everything, how can you complain? How can you even say something didn't work for you, especially if you didn't 'try'?
But:
Who am I to pass judgement?
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an atmosphere... Creating suction by heating a medium, doesn't do you any good in space people... :)
You forgot 8" floppy disks... Can't... Have... Enough....
And when the wall is done, we can throw the rest over when no one is looking!
Some might indeed... But I'd rather be a weasel than a hippie any day... At least I'd get a bath once in a while.. :)
Of course, we crush them up, put them in a line, and your mom snorts it...
Soylent Lime {Li for lithium, me for where it ends up}
That way all of you; GUI-loving, latte sipping, look-at-me look-at-me, yuppies can remove yourselves from the planet.
If we were meant to be high tech we would have evolved to have cups attached to our ears, and strings between us...
Have a rotten iDay.. Ohh wait, is that trademarked too?
I got one of those atari in a joystick things this year and played pong with a friend for 8 hours straight.
I don't think I blinked the entire time, since my eyes were ready to bleed...
You guys and your new fangled graphics, and WAV/PCM audio..... Get off my lawn!!!
Yes I know I misspelled 1/2 of the words in that post...
You've got to be delusional to say the word quality with anything associated with ReHat! All the code is tainted, nothing is built from direct sources, and nothing is current. What a joke. A bad one at that..... Soemthing like saying how Microsoft makes the most secure, bug free, up-to-date OS in the world...
I suggest you eat that dead tree rather than read it, at least you'll get something out of it that's useful. Hopefully toxic shock..
I would shy away from software... There are Raid controllers out there that will span a raid across multiple controllers, and multiple machines. LSI has some nice ones.
You can put together a ton of NO-O/S servers with the raid controllers, and interlink them all doing a hardware raid across the machines. Only one machine {preferable the main node} needs an O/S and then you can attach it to the network through that O/S.
It costs more, but is FAR more reliable.
GUI is nice and all, but a command line one would work much better with procmail filters..
As well as just about every other kind of script I would assume...
In a word...
That's Nice...
Ohh, wait that was two words, so now I owe you for the second... I guess that makes us even then...
{much sarcasm} Also I find it amusing I had to post this anyway, thanks for the laugh...
Ohh, ywah I forgot to throw in the obligatory "I'm quaking in my boots"...
I forgot to add this was 2 years ago, so this linux news is NOTHING NEW for them. Also I forgot to add I can post entire list of Linux vendors, and developers that the company INTENTIONALLY screwed.
-- Sir Ace
It's no secret I was the one who took over the linux projects at Digital Domain, and set up thier render farms. I created the Intel render farms, using Slackware, and I even got Patrick Volkerding to write a boot loader for the SGI 320's and 540's so we could run it on our workstations too.
I took the alpha render farm, revamped it to an NFS-root diskless cluster running Alpha-Slack. I worked on it for a year and a half, and I took a vacation and was let go WHILE I was on vacation.
Michael Taylor, and Jeff Stringer took credit for my work, and my ideas. Both constantly stood in the way of progress on anything that had to do with linux while I was there, and neither deserves any of the credit they have recieved for my work.
I ask that the entire slashdot community boycott any film, even remotely worked on by Digital Domain, it is a 20th century sweat shop located in Venice, California.
-- Sir Ace
Right up into the pointe where you get a panic, unable to mount root file system, because your raid dirvers aren't turned on..... Loose the Redhat. Slack up
Does everyone on earth but me user the damn xconfig? Some of use still use real terminals, {not xterms} and menuconfig and config work nicely...
I do admit you may have to run config several times if you turn on lower list options but hey... They work!!! {Dons Asbestos Armour}
Oh, good another benchmark... If you seem so apt to pointe out some things broke, maybe you should troll through the code, and see ***Where*** it broke. Then maybe submit a nice E-Mail to Linus {make sure to pronounce it right in the E-Mail :)} and say:
you made this cool fix but it broke this: here is the fix. Then you benchmark might have two lines one of which will not have a y'=0...
{end rant}
I have a spare deathstar lying around tell me the coordinates of your homeworld so I may vaporize it please!
It is simple, tar -xvzf linux-{current}.tar.gz.
cd linux; make menuconfig; make dep bzImage modules modules_install
Assuming you can do a bzImage on your platform....
Anyway, It's not so hard, you just need to know what the hardware in your machine is, and what you actually want to work out of that hardware, then turn it on. {grin}
I'd be happy to get a 3x kernel speed up out of my 16-way Hammer.... Speaking of which I'm still waiting for it Kandy... {grin} E-Mail me ;)
Ex. employers are just that, you don't have a contract with them, and they are not obligated to pay you. Always discuss payment before even hinting you'll 'help them out of a bind'!!! If they really need you make sure they comensate you, they will be less likely to call you daily thinking you will help them out.
I built a 116 node cluster at my last job, and it was a diskless node setup that booted from the network and used NFS-root. Although linuxBIOS would have been cool it's not needed if a machine has SRM {yes as in alpha} or PXE network cards.
If the only reason they went to LinuxBIOS was to boot off of the network maybe they should examine the date on the first copy of the HOWTO-NFS-Root and realise it has been going on for a LONG TIME!
oop. I stand corrected... I did use the gcc compiler to compile the kernel {and this does imply that I needed glibc libs to do it}, **however** it is **not** part of the dist.
The part about me getting no help from them on trying to make things work on an unsupported platform/cross-compile also stands.
Not to mention it is going to start a flame war of
nuclear proportions.... The Asbestos armor won't help with this one...
Secondly, I wrote Daydream Linux {runs on the Dreamcast sh-4} and I damn sure didn't use any GNU tools for that. They talk about 'cooperation' in their FAQ, but I got no help from them when I needed and asked for it. {from GNU/*} The dist has none of their tools, and if I hear them try to call it Daydream GNU/Linux I am all for going to **war** against the FSF.
From now on the EFF, is the only one I will be donating to, after seeing that this is the end result of donating to the FSF for years.
-- Sir Ace
Let me put on my asbestos armor and get this going:
;)
I'm really suprised that Bill Gates himself actually tried linux for 3 years
{sarcastic grin}{yes that was kindof a joke}
I only have a couple of complaints, about this article, mostly technical though. Everyone needs to decide what they like the best, if you don't think linux suits you try something else.
But:
Not much credit was given to the fact that he started when things weren't driven for simplicity.
Linux was hard to use, and still can be, given you are working on something non-trivial. However, he didn't seem to notice that after time his dists were getting 'better'. It seems the comparisons were just this was better than that.... Which is a bad way to judge anything, even virii like windows...
Also, the hardware mentioned was a k6-233, a pentium calss machine, I didn't read anything about a hardware/CPU upgrade, but I can tell you right now, not even running X completely out of swap will it be slower than XP's GUI. I think there was a neglect to relate an upgrade somewhere in the 'XP was faster'.
Another pointe:
Whoever wrote this seems to be forgeting something, or just didn't know them. Most of us who work on *Linux/*BSD do it day in and day out, we forget that simple things to us like adding
hdx=ide-scsi as a kernel paramater isn't trivial or common knowledge to a beginner.
Although we try se don't always remember or get them done right away. Had he stuck with it, and tried just a little harder, I think he would have noticed the things he wanted to see.
For as much as I hate both dists, both RedHat 7.3 and the new SuSE both autodetect CDRWs..
Even Slackware 8.1 has some really cool stuff over
other dists, it's all about how much you really want to try.
I think the whole pointe of this is that, that is EXACTLY the problem. The average Joe has to try and has to put effort into it, nothing else in this world comes easy, why should your OS? Windows might be more simple, but look at all you are FORCED to give up in the EULAs, and in all the downtime. For us, things are different, we don't try, we just 'do', we are so used to just makeing things work that we don't even consider it to be 'trying' anymore. I drive around in my car with a server in the trunk. It has USB and ethernet feeds to all the passengers, and a wireless setup too. I drive back and forth from Vegas to LA twice a week. I can watch DVDs, and play multiplayer games, browse the web, and check my E-Mail, when I am not driving. I didn't have to try to make it work, I just did it."wizardsworks.org/chandleg/carputer" {in case you don't beleive me}
It only took me a day to setup the machine, it still takes me an entire day to setup a Windows box to do the exact same thing.
Maybe I am a bigot, I never thought I was, I've never told anyone they 'needed' to use Slackware over another dist because it was my favorite. I've never refused to work on a box that had RedHat installed on it. But I have expected one thing, if you are going to do something, that you actually put forth the effort and actually do it.
Tinkering isn't enough, even if it is for a few years. You may learn a lot, but without the effort and a completion of something you get disheartened at stop working on it. Which I think was the case here.
I'm not asking to learn how to read the kernel source, nor to write your own dist like some of us. {DayDream Linux for the Dreamcast/sh-4}
You complained about not enough cool cdr-tools, there are a dozen tk frontends to cdrecord, not to mention at least that many standalone utils. How hard could you have looked to only find one you liked?
Maybe I am a bigot...
If you give it your all and something doesn't work for you, so be it at least you can say you tried. But if you tinker and just half-ass everything, how can you complain? How can you even say something didn't work for you, especially if you didn't 'try'?
But:
Who am I to pass judgement?
-Sir Ace