I'm just saying that there is so much more to Computer Science than just programming. You don't need a University to be able to program, although you might learn alot better programming techniques, and be much more efficient. Obviously, everything can be learned from books, but an instructor sure helps too.
Anyway, my point was that there is more to CS than programming.
At least "A lot" is a commonly misspelled word. Maybe this all just speaks for the quality of the state of our public schools, especially in the state of Indiana.
By the way, until someone else mentioned something to me a few years ago, I had spelled it "alot" thinking it was the correct spelling. Since not a single teacher corrected me, all the way thru high school on this, I never learned the correct way to spell it. It's not really proper English anyway.
I hope you teach more than algorithms and writing code! I can learn that in a book. (I'm going to assume you were just summarizing the main points of a CS degree).
Your lack of a 'colege' degree really shows. Maybe you should consider one. A degree is alot more than a piece of paper, even though alot of people believe that college is just about a piece of paper that will get you a job, it's about getting an education.
Also, a college degree can open up alot more opportunities than you will have just with your 5 years experience. It's direct proof that you completed a certain course of study with at least a C in most cases, and shows that you are capable of devoting yourself to something worthwhile. IMHO it means alot more than being able to hold a job for 5 years, whose title may or may not have much bearing on what you did.
If an employer sees 'Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science from XYZ University' they know certain things that you should know, and they shouldn't have to worry about you not knowing them.
The best possible way to go is a college degree coupled with some sort of experience or research involvement.
Agreed, I have no problem at all understanding them. It's just another accent, just like any other, it takes some adapting, but you can still understand it. Just like I have trouble understanding people from the Southern United States.
Is there really anyplace the provides good customer service anymore?
Last year when getting new local phone server I called Ameritech only to be told they didn't service my area, so I called Verizon, upon which a PERSON answered the phone, and told me that we was going to solve all my problems and was damn happy about it too. After about 2 minutes we figured out that Ameritech indeed was the only local provider available to me, and gave me all the information I needed to contact them. I dreaded calling them back. (If you've dealt with them before you'll understand.)
By the way, this is in Indianapolis. Why can't they open up the phone networks like Fort Wayne did? And while I'm at it, why the hell am I charged ~$60 every time I move and need to get phone service? I know it can't cost them near that much to transfer my account, especially when all the wires and everything are already in place.
Anyway, the moral is that customer service can be good. You try putting up with bitchy people all day and still be calm and rational with every customer and keep track of everything. I've had to do support for a small company before, it's not fun, but if you like your job enough, you still do your best.
No kidding, I'd be curious what defect rates are for motherboards, because I've had several that gave me nothing but problems (MSI being one of them, and I had heard great things about them). I finally broke down and paid the extra cash and got an ASUS MB.
By the way, you guys are complaining about 1%, and I bet that automobiles have a higher defect rate, and I'd be more worried about that than I would a game console.
At the University where I am attending 90% of the staff in the Computer Science department is from India (says so on their resumes). I guess we're ahead of the game. =]
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I also grew up loving the Simpsons, I loved it when I was younger 10-11 years ago, and I love it now that I am 20 years old. The Simpsons has grown with its target audience over time, and has matured at a pretty similar rate; thus it's continued success.
What is the point in having a series of movies if 1/2 the people like 1/2 the movies and the other 1/2 like the other 1/2 of the movies. It would make more sense to model the target demographic to an already established fan base than to attempt to acquire a new one.
If you read the comments the guy made, he just put it up temporarily because some people asked him too, but there isn't any content, so he's taking it down at 8am, presumably to add content and fiddle with it some more. So for those of you complaining because it was slashdotted, it will be back, but I doubt he'll let/. find out so quickly if he can help it.
The problem probably won't be the CS classes, if you are a solid programmer already.
Solid programmers that don't know math are in just as bad of shape. I'm talking about things like discrete math, linear algebra, etc. Math is normally a large chunk of a CS degree (and I'm not just talking 3 semesters of Calculus either.)
Am I the only that thinks that K = 1000, k = 1024, etc? I always had the understanding that a capital K = 1000 and a lowercase k = 1024, thus I've never had much problem with this. Except when Internet Explorer Inaccurately reports download speeds using the wrong convention!
The sad thing is that very few people with autism are like "Rain Man". (He would be what is considered an Autistic Savant, someone who is Autistic, but at the same time exhibits some extraordinary talent at something like memory, music, mathematics, etc.) However, because of their often inability to communicate, these talents are difficult for them to use, etc. I would assume the parents that rushed to the doctor afterwards were hoping their children were geniuses and instead found out they were just mute (basically).
Yeah.. although sometimes I'm convinced I must be the only one in my neighborhood with RoadRunner, because I consistently get 3 mbps downstream and 500 kbps upstream no matter what time of day =]
I never really understood the point in banning servers (HTTP AND FTP), etc., since most cable companies have caps on your upstream bandwidth anyway. (I know alot of people where this is 150-200 kbps, mine appears to top out at about 500 kbps).
"VPNs allow users working at home or on the road to connect in a secure fashion to a remote corporate server using the routing infrastructure provided by a public internetwork (such as the Internet). From the user's perspective, the VPN is a point-to-point connection between the user's computer and a corporate server.
You may use the Road Runner service as a connection for VPN; however, Road Runner does not provide support for installing or troubleshooting VPNs. Road Runner is not responsible for troubleshooting problems that have occurred from using your Road Runner service with the VPN."
Okay, here's the exact wording from the agreement at my time of signing up:
"Subscriber agrees not to use the Road Runner Service for operation as an internet service provider, for the hosting of websites or for any business enterprise. Subscriber further agrees not to connect the cable modem to any computer other than the Computer(s) or to any server (or any computer running server application that provide similar protocol service over the Road Service), including without limitation any servers for mail, HTTP, FTP, RTP, IRC, DHCP, or multi-user interactive forums (e.g. gaming). [Computer is defined as the one that is connected to the modem, or the one you told them about when you signed up.]
Their TOS vary from location to location. I found one somewhere out west I believe that forbid running "gaming servers", etc. on your cable connection, but the agreement I signed back in august didn't say that. Maybe they're changing everything who knows.
Must be some interesting zip file you've got, everyone I just tried to open it in notepad showed an attempt to convert a binary file to ascii and lots of exciting ascii characters =]
Yeah, except that would definetly ruin their "we aren't a monopoly" stance, and the gov't would have no problem convincing any judge anywhere that that is illegal. The problem know exists in that it is unclear to alot of people what constitutes the MS Monopoly, but when they move into other markets and try to control them as well, then they will get in big trouble. I wouldn't be too concerned about this. There has to be some business person at MS that knows what they're doing.
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Anyway, my point was that there is more to CS than programming.
Maybe I just spell it wrong because of all the spam I get telling me I'm going to WIN ALOT OF MONEY.
By the way, until someone else mentioned something to me a few years ago, I had spelled it "alot" thinking it was the correct spelling. Since not a single teacher corrected me, all the way thru high school on this, I never learned the correct way to spell it. It's not really proper English anyway.
I hope you teach more than algorithms and writing code! I can learn that in a book. (I'm going to assume you were just summarizing the main points of a CS degree).
Also, a college degree can open up alot more opportunities than you will have just with your 5 years experience. It's direct proof that you completed a certain course of study with at least a C in most cases, and shows that you are capable of devoting yourself to something worthwhile. IMHO it means alot more than being able to hold a job for 5 years, whose title may or may not have much bearing on what you did.
If an employer sees 'Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science from XYZ University' they know certain things that you should know, and they shouldn't have to worry about you not knowing them.
The best possible way to go is a college degree coupled with some sort of experience or research involvement.
Agreed, I have no problem at all understanding them. It's just another accent, just like any other, it takes some adapting, but you can still understand it. Just like I have trouble understanding people from the Southern United States.
Does it matter at all what college I attend? I fail to see how that would help you understand what I mean, anyway.
Last year when getting new local phone server I called Ameritech only to be told they didn't service my area, so I called Verizon, upon which a PERSON answered the phone, and told me that we was going to solve all my problems and was damn happy about it too. After about 2 minutes we figured out that Ameritech indeed was the only local provider available to me, and gave me all the information I needed to contact them. I dreaded calling them back. (If you've dealt with them before you'll understand.)
By the way, this is in Indianapolis. Why can't they open up the phone networks like Fort Wayne did? And while I'm at it, why the hell am I charged ~$60 every time I move and need to get phone service? I know it can't cost them near that much to transfer my account, especially when all the wires and everything are already in place.
Anyway, the moral is that customer service can be good. You try putting up with bitchy people all day and still be calm and rational with every customer and keep track of everything. I've had to do support for a small company before, it's not fun, but if you like your job enough, you still do your best.
Return it to the vendor, and they'll put a "refurbished" sticker on it and sell it to someone else.
By the way, you guys are complaining about 1%, and I bet that automobiles have a higher defect rate, and I'd be more worried about that than I would a game console.
At the University where I am attending 90% of the staff in the Computer Science department is from India (says so on their resumes). I guess we're ahead of the game. =]
so far you're doing pretty good... congrats.
What is the point in having a series of movies if 1/2 the people like 1/2 the movies and the other 1/2 like the other 1/2 of the movies. It would make more sense to model the target demographic to an already established fan base than to attempt to acquire a new one.
If you read the comments the guy made, he just put it up temporarily because some people asked him too, but there isn't any content, so he's taking it down at 8am, presumably to add content and fiddle with it some more. So for those of you complaining because it was slashdotted, it will be back, but I doubt he'll let /. find out so quickly if he can help it.
Solid programmers that don't know math are in just as bad of shape. I'm talking about things like discrete math, linear algebra, etc. Math is normally a large chunk of a CS degree (and I'm not just talking 3 semesters of Calculus either.)
Am I the only that thinks that K = 1000, k = 1024, etc? I always had the understanding that a capital K = 1000 and a lowercase k = 1024, thus I've never had much problem with this. Except when Internet Explorer Inaccurately reports download speeds using the wrong convention!
The sad thing is that very few people with autism are like "Rain Man". (He would be what is considered an Autistic Savant, someone who is Autistic, but at the same time exhibits some extraordinary talent at something like memory, music, mathematics, etc.) However, because of their often inability to communicate, these talents are difficult for them to use, etc. I would assume the parents that rushed to the doctor afterwards were hoping their children were geniuses and instead found out they were just mute (basically).
Are you suggesting hindering competition to make sure that MS gets their pants sued off? What kind of backwards thinking is that?
If it's possible to have decent competition with MS out there, let it be.
Yeah.. although sometimes I'm convinced I must be the only one in my neighborhood with RoadRunner, because I consistently get 3 mbps downstream and 500 kbps upstream no matter what time of day =]
I never really understood the point in banning servers (HTTP AND FTP), etc., since most cable companies have caps on your upstream bandwidth anyway. (I know alot of people where this is 150-200 kbps, mine appears to top out at about 500 kbps).
Word for word from help.rr.com:
"VPNs allow users working at home or on the road to connect in a secure fashion to a remote corporate server using the routing infrastructure provided by a public internetwork (such as the Internet). From the user's perspective, the VPN is a point-to-point connection between the user's computer and a corporate server.
You may use the Road Runner service as a connection for VPN; however, Road Runner does not provide support for installing or troubleshooting VPNs. Road Runner is not responsible for troubleshooting problems that have occurred from using your Road Runner service with the VPN."
"Subscriber agrees not to use the Road Runner Service for operation as an internet service provider, for the hosting of websites or for any business enterprise. Subscriber further agrees not to connect the cable modem to any computer other than the Computer(s) or to any server (or any computer running server application that provide similar protocol service over the Road Service), including without limitation any servers for mail, HTTP, FTP, RTP, IRC, DHCP, or multi-user interactive forums (e.g. gaming). [Computer is defined as the one that is connected to the modem, or the one you told them about when you signed up.]
I'll post the new one once I find it.
Their TOS vary from location to location. I found one somewhere out west I believe that forbid running "gaming servers", etc. on your cable connection, but the agreement I signed back in august didn't say that. Maybe they're changing everything who knows.
Must be some interesting zip file you've got, everyone I just tried to open it in notepad showed an attempt to convert a binary file to ascii and lots of exciting ascii characters =]
Yeah, except that would definetly ruin their "we aren't a monopoly" stance, and the gov't would have no problem convincing any judge anywhere that that is illegal. The problem know exists in that it is unclear to alot of people what constitutes the MS Monopoly, but when they move into other markets and try to control them as well, then they will get in big trouble. I wouldn't be too concerned about this. There has to be some business person at MS that knows what they're doing.