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Attack of the Clones
ramakant writes: "It looks like George Lucas has really sold out this time. If you thought Jar-Jar Binks was bad, MTV.com is running a story that a few members of 'NSYNC will be making cameos in Episode II. I think the target demographic for these films has changed a little since the original trilogy. Oh well, at least LOTR rocked." The MTV article says that NSYNC asked for the part; an article in a UK tabloid says Lucas asked them.
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At least they all get slaughtered within half a second. http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2001601540,00 .html
Who would you rather see die by the hands of Jango Fett or the Sith....Jar Jar, or any member of N'Sync?
turn into a 13 year old girl who actually likes n'sync prior to seeing Star Wars Episode 2
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As terrible as it may sound that they are in the movie, at least they get blown up.
The Post says they appear in the background of the film's climactic battle scene, before getting blown up by "battle droids."
THis at least makes up somewhat for George selling out for a few more bucks to pad his already large wallet... --Jon
after all, those of us who grew up loving star wars saw them originally as children.
The movie is titled 'Attack of the Clones.' The film would not be complete without 'NSync. I'm just disappointed that Backstreet Boys, New Kids on the Block, and 98 Degrees will not have cameos.
Now you know why Episode II is called Attack of the Clones. ;p
Let's just hope kids don't start using NSYNC dolls as masturbation toys now D:
Although... hmm...
*fap* *fap* *fap*
Not my choice of words, but if its true about them being in the movie thats really too bad. I bet I still am going to see it, out of love for 4,5,&6. Its start wars. Even I couldn't srew it up that bad. --JimE
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The target demographic of the Star Wars movies has NOT changed. Merely, those who were the target demographic have now aged out of that demographic.
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C'mon! Wouldn't this be the equivalent of Menudo or some other really bad boy band of the day asking for a part in the one of the original 3 films? George Lucas would have said hell no. This is just ridiculous. 10 years from now Nsync will be laughed at even more than they are now and Attack of the Clones will be a big joke.
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Put all the talentless boy bands (redundant, I know) in the movie. As long as:
a) They don't talk, or "sing."
b) They get killed off post-haste.
Given these two rules, it would be quite enjoyable.
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The guys will be seen for a fleeting moment in a "big scene with lots of extras."
Sounds like a fun game for whoever buys the DVD...
Someone set us up the bomb, so shine we are!
how much worse does it have to get before I'm sorry I ever saw the first movies.
I think this should have been buried as an Easter Egg, like the ET scene in The Phantom Menace.
;)
I much prefer to learn "Fascinating" trivia about a film a few months after I've seen it
Hmm. Are you sure it wasn't NSYNC who sold out?
No wonder the world is such a barren wasteland.
Movies and TV tend to have a serious problem with being on the trailing edge of pop culture...has anybody heard of a show called Popstars? Here in Canada, the band they made is doing terribly and they are about to air the creation of another... Stupid television...
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I see that it's time to put all of that first-person shooter training to work and invade Skywalker ranch. An unopened original Bubba Fett action figure to whoever brings me Lucas's head on a pike!
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Okay, my last comment, "Now you know why Episode II is called Attack of the Clones" was beaten to the punch by fifteen seconds. Durn. But it took me less time to change my mind about the whole thing.
I hate boy bands as much as the next guy. But 'NSYNC was darn funny in their Simpsons episode. They spent the whole 18 minutes making fun of themselves after all. They can't be ALL bad.
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I was watching some entertainment show on TV tonight and this story came on. Evidently, Lucas' daughters asked their dad to put N'Sync in the movie, and he agreed to a cameo role for them as extras in a huge scene with lots of people. No need to freak; it's not like they're gonna have real parts in the film.
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About three years ago, I sat in a theater that was about to show "Wing Commander." Why? Because they were going to show the "Star Wars" trailer. As the lights darkened and the projector fired up, the words "Lucasfilms" showed up on the screen. That was all it took to get the entire crowd to erupt in a tremendous cheer.
Then, Ep I came out.
Recently, I sat in a theater awaiting LOTR. "Lucasfilms" showed up on the screen. The audience collectively yawned. We've already been burned once by Lucas; we're pretty sure that AOTC is going to suck. Jar Jar, a lame-ass title, and now N'Sync pretty much confirm that.
The article says a few seconds in a scene with a lot of extras...
Get a grip... nobody will notice unless you freeze frame the future dvd and then who really cares...
If you want to make an opinion of the film before seeing it (which is kind of dumb) then at least do something like watch the trailers... which in my opinion are quite good!
Star Wars Episode II:
Send In the Clones
It could be ok, don't a lot of people die in this one ... could you think of anybody else who should.
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I would pay good money to see Jabba The Hut graphically eat each member of the Back Sync Boys and then later crap out Britney Spears.
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This isn't exactly a big departure from Lucas's stable...
Hamill wasn't exactly a Royal Shakespearean himself...
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I wonder if the movie has any HOT GAY POOPSEX
listen, complain as much as you like, but it doesn't change the fact that you would get yourself casted in starwars, even for a brief cameo, if you had the power.
so use the force or something. i never saw the movies.
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This is not offtopic. I even include URLS to additional sources: www.prequel-spoilers.com. they were the original ones to have it. Ananova picked it up a while back. that was when I posted it.
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This is just wrong. Not "running a red light" wrong. "Screendoors on a submarine" wrong.
If you disagree, you're wrong.
I heard Peter Jackson is giving Al Gore a cameo in the Two Towers. He plays one of the Ents.
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Damn you George.. You could have at least had cameos for adults.. maybe Ron Jeremey corn-holing Britney Spears
Alas, that won't happen. We'll see Episode III with Barney or the Telletubbies..
At least we'll still have episodes IV and V. VI? No, you can stuff the Ewochs where the sun doesn't shine too..
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I hope its like the N'Sync Simpsons cameo:
Justin Timberlake: "WORRRD!!!"
:)
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Hey, does this mean that along with the 35 year old virgins living in their parents' basement, there will be screaming teenage girls camped out in front of the movie theater on opening night?
This would cause a mass confusion in the crowd as Star Wars geeks meet these strange creatures called "girls". I just wonder what happens if one of the geeks asks a teenie bopper if she wants to see his "light saber".
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Since when has George Lucas revealed anything about action scenes prior to the movie? I can understand him revealing (or somebody else revealing) that N'Suck is in the movie as a cameo, but Lucas has previously been ultra-tight about details such as "they die in the background within seconds". It just doesn't make sense.
Vader - "Come, and we will rule the Empire as father and son."
Luke - "I don't want to be a fool for you. Just another player in your game for two. You may hate me but it ain't no lie. Bye, bye, bye."
I think people should relax about not posting first. What kind of life must you lead to get angry about someone else finding the same story you found, which you didn't even do the research for? Maybe there is a contest I don't know about for first posts, but the "DAMN YOU SLASHDOT" posts get real old. Let it slide.
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Metal Edge Online was on to this one way before Slashdot. Check out this quote:
We live in a country that thrives on complacency, because complacency creates clones, and clones buy 1.8 million 'NSync records in a week.
~~ What's stopping you?
you could kill them 1000 times over in the movie. you could spend 45 minutes disecting their testicles while they watched, but it doesnt change the fact that NSYNC IS IN A STAR WARS MOVIE!!!! George Lucas is dead to me. I'm goin out to get some clothes without buttons or patterns, because I'm shunning him Amish style.
You guys all know you are still going to see the movie, even if they NSync guys break out into a song. I'd rather see them than Jar Jar. At least THEY are real people (figuratively speaking)
...All I can say is that my life is pretty strange...
At least they get blown up...Could be fun to watch :-)
On another note, I hope you guys who are forming opinions about the movie now get the shock of your lives. Jar-jar is only in the movie very briefly, so I heard, and this movie has the potential to kick the crap out of ep 1 - if what I've read about the plot is correct. N-sync probably won't even be that much of a distracting factor, after all it's the storyline that matters.
...this is getting out of hand
sound doesn't travel in space :)
He didn't do research. he only linked to the MTV.com story. I put in links to both Ananova AND Prequel spoilers. Prequel spoilers was listed as the original source. This guy doesn't mention that. I even cracked the joke about getting to see 'nsync get blown up.
Remember, there were no nuclear weapons before women were allowed to vote.
and tarnishing his franchise in the process.
Does this mean i have free license to pour boiling hot grits down Nsync's pants? Somehow the idea of watching them sing with scalded testicle seems amusing in some odd way.
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Nysnc would be perfect for stormtroopers. They could polish each other's uniforms before each shoot. ;P
Make sure to get the soundtrack with hidden track 0 where the boys hum the Star Wars theme a capella (sp).
Seriously, I hope the Clone Edit (please let there be one) has Bye Bye Bye playing as they get killed.
As noted earlier, Star Wars films have always targeted younger generations. However stupid Jar-Jar might be, number 1 he is a CG designer's dream and number 2, kids like him. As far as NSYNC goes, it's called merchandising. Who doesn't like money? Maybe in this movie they won't even have to lip-sync.
instead of bitching post the exact links you have to ananova and prequel-spoilers and be a karma whore
I would like to fall on my light sabre. This is a sad day when a bunch of no-talent morons make appearances in what should be decent films. Anyone wanna bet that madonna is in the third movie? I'm sure she'd play Jaba's 2nd/3rd/4th wife or some crap like that? Or worse yet, she'll meet her twin sister, Hillary Clinton. UG!
Lucas has always said that Star Wars is a modern-day fairy tale. Great love stories intertwined in a universe of Good vs. Evil where the Good Guys win. It's the stuff great kiddie stories are made of.
:)
I mean, hey, let's look at that first triology for a second. We've got a love story between a princess and an outlaw (whose best friend, by the way, is a large, loveable hairy guy). That's classic fairy tale stuff. Then we've got the tale of a confused and tortured young man struggling to become a champion of good whilst laboring in the shadow of his evil father who, as it turns out, is still a pretty good guy himself.
I can't tell if this is a fairy tale or a soap opera. Frankly, there isn't much difference.
The point is, Lucas made a film that adults can - more or less - enjoy, but it's always been heavy on the childish side of things. The story and characters are easy to digest. It doesn't take a literary genius to understand that the Emporer was an evil mad man and Luke was the proverbial White Knight. The story is cut and dry.
But I will admit that including a boy band like NSync in the movie, even for a cameo, is bowing to market influence in a major way. Oh wait...there was Jar Jar and that whole "Pod Race To Sell Toys" scene in Episode I.
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If you are gonna have a stupid title like "Attack of the clones" you might as well have some real live clones in it.
Lucas sold out a long time ago...
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uh,, if Al Gore is in two towers then he would have already been in the movie as all three were shot at once, and since I have yet to an E! rumor about the appearance,(E! had a columnist there almost at all times, lucky guy:)) so that rumor is innevitably false.. Although Al Gore would make a perfect elf, he already has the pointy ears and long nose.
Come on, like he wasn't a pop figure. And he had a pretty major part. So, who cares if N'Sync is in it. it's not like they are gonna sing. Nobody would have a problem if they were on Futurama. Give the movie a chance to suck before you criticize it.
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Lucas diserved the money he made from the 3 first star wars, in that repect, I support him in every trademark dispute, piracy attacks, and anything that might go against his master piece of work and innovation(tm).
But one thing is for sure, he lost *ALL* my respect with Episode 1, This was clearly a "coup de cash" against his loyal fans. Not only he deceived us, it's not like if he was under-funded or he had to make tough choices (jarjar is the "living proof of poor judgment). Now, he's in it ONLY for the money, he lost his soul and his artistic taste for the movies the same way metallica lost it's artistic side for money in heavy metal music. He had all the time in the world to make a masterpiece, he had all the funding available, he had all the talent, he had enough people around him to tell him what was a good and a bad idea, I guess fans sometimes are really harsh but there's no forgiving for such blattant mistakes and misjudgement; he knew what his fans were expecting and he betted only on the CGI technical skills side (like most hollywood producers) to save the day.
You didn't see me crying when DiVX of his mastercrap went around the net, actually it even did some good; Remember when he commented on the editor that removed *EVERY* scenes where jarjar was? that it was illegal etc etc? Well, on a moral standpoint and to defend the same Trademark that Lucas is tarnishing by himself, I think it was the best thing that the internet and p2p technology could do to save the little content of the movie that wasn't half bad. It's still illegal though, but for someone who saw it at the theatre and gave in money like I did, I would have prefered paying an extra buck to see such a version.
At first, my thought was, maybe I was expecting too much, maybe I've lost that amazement feeling you get when you're younger and seeing something truely fantastic, but LOTR proved to me that it wasn't gone, and SWEP1 should have given me that same feeling if not better. I didn't have such a harsh judgment before seeing LOTR, but what I saw is that you CAN match a buttload of CGI, a good story and good acting and still amaze people... and that my friends, at any age.
Having NSYNC in there just shows the commercial side of lucas that has overtaken his artistic soul. What is it going to be? Big sync dance of Yoda and all his family? oh god, I can see riverdance comming for episode 3 and have a bunch of JarJar lapdansing for 10 minutes... oh and have him signing on top of that, and oh I can see vador joining the club and using the force to lift everybody in the air and and&#*H@IkKn3,22214m3,4
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for just one of those options. I think that he could handle all of them. Too bad Darth Maul was the one cut in half. I kept hoping through E1 that Jar Jar was goona get a light sabre up the wazoo.
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Being the good little karma-whore i'm not, HERE is the Ananova story (all the way back from december 31st!), and Here is Prequel spoilers. they were the original source, and the story is on the front page.
Remember, there were no nuclear weapons before women were allowed to vote.
the difference between those boy bands? I thought it was the same band that had just gone through a bunch of name changes.
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Sigh. George Lucas you talentless, skirt-wearing valley girl. I hope you have an accident in a meat processing factory so everyone can see you're actually a robot, built to replace the real Lucas when he died in 1984.
At least he redeemed himself by all those great roles after Star Wars, too.
I think the target demographic for these films has changed a little since the original trilogy.
A New Hope didn't have a target demographic. Not at 600k budget.
The Empire Strikes Back tried the late teens target demographics. It didn't gross out as much as they had anticipated at the time. It caught on later in time.
The Return Of The Jedi targeted kids and up, in attempt to widen the audience. By that time, episode 5 had become a classic, and it caught on.
That's the "magic" formula that was used for episode 1, and don't expect anything for the next two episodes.
It doesn't take a lot to get the younger male crowd all hopped up on a story like Star Wars.
But the younger female crowd? Well if they throw in a bit of N'Sync, all is well. Even if they only appear for a few seconds, Lucas will still probably make bank on the merchandising from action figures featuring N'Sync members posing 0.5 seconds before they are blown to pieces.
Umm, hello, moderators? Is there a reason why this post doesn't at least have an "interesting" applied to it? I don't exactly see CmdrTaco pointing this stuff out.
There is some delicious irony to having members of a boy band in a movie called 'Attack of the Clones' don't you think?
I don't understand why people are so upset by this new fact. We were told before episode 1 that the new trilogy would be for Lucas's kids. I understood when people were amazed that the first episode was aimed at such a young target audience, but now that we were told, how can anyone really think that the movies won't be aimed at CHILDREN.
This new travesty is a horrible perversion of what should be a beautiful thing, but at least it's in charachter. He told us what he wanted to do. He's doing it. Quit complaining that "the target demographic for these films has changed a little since the original trilogy," because at this point, you shouldn't expect anything less from the producer of Episode 1.
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Premier night is going to be interesting. Thirteen-year-old girl: "Daddy, why does that big fat bearded man smell so bad? And why is he making robot noises?" Father: "It's just a fanboy, honey, try not to make eye contact and kick him in the balls if he tries to talk to you during the show."
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"The boys got involved because producer GEORGE LUCAS's 13-year-old daughter Katie is a fan of the band and badgered her dad to give them a role."
Man, I wish MY dad would let me name movies and pick the cast!
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The first prequel was pretty bad in comparison to the original trilogy, but after hearing this and seeing the preview for episode 2, i'm really disappointed. The actor they chose to play anakin in the movie looks completely wrong for the part to me, and from what I saw of his acting, I would say that I've seen cardboard boxes put more emotion into an act.
All five members of the group appear in a battle scene in Episode II: Attack Of The Clones.
But unfortunately for fans they are all bumped off within seconds by savage androids.
Well, I'd pay just to see that part! Sell out? More like savior! He knows what WE want to see!
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It's time to organize for a planned flop. No more Star Wars. This crap is ruining my image of the ORIGINAL movies. No more t-shirts, no more action figures, no more posters.
None, nada, nil!
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I guess we all know what kind of pr0n Lucas downloads.
That's it! George Lucas is *definitely* gay.
Always suspected it with that funky hairdo, but now it's confirmed! Next thing you know we'll find out Obi-wan is secretly a cross-dresser.
Lucas didn't sell out... NSYNC did.
It used to be about the music, man!
I object to that article, and to the next reply.
I mean, remember how great Kenneth Branagh was as young Obi-Wan in Episode I? And that appearance by Han Solo's father? And Charles Bronson as a Jedi? Or any of the hundereds of other rumors about the last movie that were a bunch of crap...
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Maybe they will change their mind and have Britney Spears cameo... with a lightsaber!
:-)
I bet ole' Lucas would like that.
That trailer actually gave me shivers in ways that NOTHING about the previous film was even remotely able.
To be honest, I have high hopes for this film. --We might actually see some good messages. How passion of any type can lead to the dark side. And, anyway, there's nothing quite like a good romance story when it's well told.
Weird about the boy-band members having cameos, although I'd venture to guess that this is a sly attempt to capture the female viewership fully and completely. Interesting ploy.
We'll have to see. I do sort of worry, though, that the new film might serve primarily to reinforce certain messed up societal ideals, a la "Titanic". --Including, of course, that the perfect boyfriend must now die of hypothermia in the North Atlantic in order to be properly acceptable to a girl.
Ah well. We'll just have to see, won't we.
Fingers crossed!
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They ought to call it "Attack of the money grubbing Jews"
Well what do you know they actually do look cute with the Jedi customs...
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The Star Wars we all remember was mostly about telling the story. It was captivating and definently interesting. Sure, there was a bit of 'side story', but the movies were always about the end theme. (If you don't know, well, too bad).
The new movies don't seem focused on the story line. I mean, what have pod racers to do with Vaders character developement? Anyone see him race pods later in life? No? No duh.
Including the droids was a mistake. Later in life, did the just forget to mention what they knew about Vader? Duh. Lame.
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Lucas messed with everyones heads by originally telling everyone that "Return of the Jedi" was called "Blue Harvest. I'm still harboring the fierce hope that "Attack of the Clones" and the NSYNC thing is a joke too. There could be a chance, though it wouldn't be too smart considering how many potential viewers he's losing. One can hope though....
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I saw an EP2 trailer at Lord of the Rings and it was enough to make me want to reach across the aisle and throttle someone. The only people in the theatre at the time who even enjoyed the trailer were the teenage girls, and the collective simper was horrifying. I can understand modifying the Star Wars we've all known and loved to sell it to the modern demographic, since 20 years does tend to demand certain variations in the theme to capture the interests of the same target. Yet the wholesale bastardization of a concept to attempt to make it appeal to all demographics is a work of marketry and not artistry. It's a damned foolish thing to do and a sign that Lucas has become nothing more than a sellout.
I'd been rallying for another Indiana Jones movie for a few years now. This is the moment when I stop. As much respect as I have for the past accomplishments of Lucas and Co., I couldn't possibly tolerate the desecration of another franchise.
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"The MTV article says that NSYNC asked for the part; an article in a UK tabloid says Lucas asked them."
I read this a few days ago that the members of N'Sync were friends with Lucas' daughter and they they kept begging her for a part. Lucas' finally gave in but apparently they're only in the scene for a few seconds until they get blasted by battle droids.
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Now, I'm not comparing 'nsync to harrison by any means, but I bet most 'nsync non-fans (of which I'm one) wouldn't even be able to tell which scene they were in once the movie comes out.
Now that the moderation score of that post has changed, you sound like a moron...
Like "Attack of the Oven Mits"?
and the 3rd installment...
"Star Wars 3:The Toe Jam Rebellion"
and the 7th installment...
"Star Wars 7:The Fellowship of the Force"
this proves it
"The boys got involved because producer GEORGE LUCAS's 13-year-old daughter Katie is a fan of the band and badgered her dad to give them a role.
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He sold out to his daughter. How dare he!!!
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um...I was about 12 or 13 when I first saw Star Wars.
I don't think the demographic has changed, in fact, I think its still the same.
I gave myself to Jesus, but now he never calls
While Lucas is at it, Natalie Portman could use some petrification.
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Lucas can say to his fan(atic) base... "Bye, bye, bye..."
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I was going to do the geek thing and at least see it on video. I can't now. Lucas has gone off the deep end. He's lost touch with his core. oh well.
The king is dead. long live the king. pete jackson.
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i hear in episode three, the climax of the movie takes place on the planet Pepsi. pull your pants up, george lucas(TM)
Oops!
Proof positive that if Lucas has too much creative control over his movies, he'll screw them up big time. The movies he does get creative control over get all sorts of weird midgets, furry creatures, or fart jokes.
Being here at Presidio of SF .Where Lucas is building his latest tourist trap aka( Letterman Digital studios) I find it hard to respect George Lucas combine that with Jar-jar and I can safely say that I wont waste my time on this movie .
The ONLY saving factor is Natalie Portman -ummmm
hot grits!!!!!
I sent in this exact story earlier today, and it was rejected in under 1 minute.
2002-01-02 23:15:00 'NSYNC to appear in "Attack of the Clones" (articles,news) (rejected)
I was always curious as to why near identical stories get rejected, and others make the cut. Either way, I don't think my submission was even read, as I refreshed about 30 seconds after submission, and it was already rejected.
- Little green fire-fly like dots right through Mimic, plus an obvious cut/break/repair in the film.
- Cyclic digital distortion of the sound right through Hollow Man.
- Given wrong tickets and pointed to wrong theatre for Thir13en Ghosts (movie titles are no longer on cinema doors). Mistake not noticed until 15 minutes after correct movie started.
- Purchased discount pack of "Cinema Cash" only to find that the expiry date had been shortened to six months and for one of those months a normal ticket was cheaper.
- Projector setup incorrectly such that subtitles at the beginning of Replacement Killers were cut off so completely that the audience didn't notice there were any until one spanning two lines half-popped up.
- Waiting in theatre for The Mummy Returns to start and Tomb Raider begins -- this time I was in the right theatre.
That's all I can remember for now, but I'd say a good 60% of the movies I've seen in the last year or two have been screwed up by the cinema. If only the movies were actually good enough to be worth coping with the crap.This is so profoundly retarded that I'm having trouble, for one in my life, expressing my true feelings.
So, I called up the NIST and asked them to create a unit of measurement that accurately describes the ratio between retarded things and lame things. I proposed that 1.0 would be the standard ratio for something that would be equally retarded and lame, and suggested Episode II, George Lucas, and N'Sync might be good benchmarks from which to gauge this new standard. They agreed, with one stipulation. They wanted to put "mebi" on it somewhere, because there was a sale on "mebi"s this week..They overestimated public demand for them and had a whole bunch lying around they needed to get rid of.
Without further adue, Star Wars's ratio of lameness to retardedness will be measured in Mebijarjars, and more specifically, Episode II will be exactly 1.0 Mebijarjars if N'Sync happens to be in it. Ten bucks says Episode III will feature nothing but chimpanzee actors wearing garbage can lids on their heads beepy-boopy sounds dubbed over a laugh track supplied by the surviving members of Menudo.
Cheers, its meant to make you laugh,
Bowie J. Poag
You rock!
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(PS- sounds like me and my younger sis when we were kids
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And not a moment too soon, at this rate.
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"LOTR rocked"? Heh...I deleted the pirated version of "Bored of the Rings", unwatched, from my hard drive. That makes two movies I have deleted, unwatched (the other one was "Tombraider". Can a movie make one say, "I don't fucking care" any stronger?
:-D
Another pirated movie made me asleep half way through (and consequently, I deleted it without watching the entire thing) was "Harry Potter".
But I bet you fucking faggot geeks loved all three of these flicks. Thank goodness I didn't have to pay a dime for them.
I sometimes get bewildered that people try to equate the star wars movies or storyline with anything resembling great cinema.... George Lucas and Co. are intent on creating.. err.. recreating mythology and plotlines that are universal.. when you hear that word.. universal, you should run.. the stories and character development take a back seat to effects and gimmicks.
Was I the only one who thought that Episode 4 (IV) sucked? At the time, it was amazing effects and a well thought out story, but the acting was sub-par at best, and the directing and cinematography were atrocious... Carrie Fisher (Remember Princess Leia??? - She wrote an Oscar winning film, Postcards from the edge, it got some sort of Oscar) - Her take on Lucas's Directing Skills - his range of direction was from "Faster!" to "More!".
Of course I am a fan, of course I had all the action figures, I was 8 years old. But that doesn't mean it was good... It was a good attempt.
When I hear people talking about the SW movies as a "franchise" or with some sort of reverence, I laugh out loud.. it was trash, and Episode one was trash. My wife bought me the DVD for Episode one, and I can't sit through it again, I either fall asleep because everyone has a stick up their butt and they are saying their lines as if they were reading them from cue-cards, or I get so disgusted with the shitty plot and the contrived gimmicks (R2-D2 owned by Anakin, C3PO built by Anakin? give me an EFFFING break!) and the inconsistancies with the original ethos... If you are going to make up the laws of a made-up universe, don't change them because it fits with the story... Don't even get me started about the Gungans.. Jar-Jar actually wasn't that bad, but can anyone explain to me why the Jedi didn't just go to the city first? what was with the 20 minute ride through the planet core?
Send in the Clowns is going to suck too, but I will buy my ticket like a good fan boy and sit and cheer when he gets the girl, and when the bad guys die, and when he becomes darth vader...
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I had a sig, but
Hey, great. Another bullshit AC with mod points to spend. You know what? It's a good thing I don't give a damn about karma. If you can mismod, then post as AC to gloat about it, it shows two things:
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1) You don't give a damn or care how the mod system is supposed to work, nor care about the fact that you're showing your general opinion to be worthless. After all, who in their right mind would care what an obvious asshole thinks?
2) You have an ego driven personality, where exerting even the slightest, most imaginary power over someone, no matter how far removed from reality, really gets your dick pumping. Being ego driven is self defeatist. I highly recommend reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. It could change your life for the better.
Oh yeah. AC's who think griping about me being modded down, please don't defend me. It usually flushes my karma as far as possible.
Anyone see the movie "Titanic"? Anyone remember how well it did at the box office?
To paraphrase: "Do not be to proud of this technological terror you've constructed... it is insignificant next to the power of the '13-year-old-girl' demographic".
Maybe Slashdot shouldn't do any more stories on the new Star Wars movies. After all, this is "News for Nerds", not "News for Teeny-boppers". Can we think of any other traditionally geek things that have 'sold out' recently?
[PowerPoint] is a tool for capitalist presentation
Just add a cheezy boy band.
With all the serious romance slant the trailer gave out, you'd think ol George was trying to work it as some sort of Titanic in space. Then again, look how much jack that movie rolled in.
Guess N'Sync can serenade the ppl jumping into lifeboats...erm, pods as some star cruiser that got in the way of some battle disintegrates.
In space...no one can hear you scream.
How about making a mod pack for something like Quake that lets you do the fragging yourself?
You're using her as bait, Master!
Wasn't mc hammer in the first one?
It would appear that Episode IV was rather aptly named.
I don't think so, I just think that we've gotten older. When I first say Episode III, back in 1977, (I think), I was 15 years old. Isn't that the audience that N*SYNC appeals to? I guess it could be a few years younger than that.
n'sync are fscking clown shoes!! and so the movie will also be fscking clown shoes, as well! and that's all i want to say about that topic.
Please remember that Lucas works in the movie INDUSTRY. That means he is trying to make money. I do believe he's doing a damn good job of it. I've been sitting here reading everyone's comments and I've come to the conclusion that most readers of this article have forgotten that Lucas isn't making movies for you. He isn't making Star Wars so that the 35 year old guys still living with their parents get a thril from his "epic" film. There is a definite difference between a film and a movie. A film tends to be more artistic and usually is trying to convey a message (a perfect example is Copola's Apocalypse Now). Movies, on the other hand, are here to entertain us and to make money. Star Wars is a series of movies. If you want something epic with real meaning why don't you go read a book. I'm sick of whiny fanboys bitching about what Lucas is doing to their "precious" Star Wars. If you don't like it then you don't have to go watch it. No one is forcing you. When you create a movie franchise and make millions of dollars you can do whatever the hell you want. But last I checked most /. readers probably don't own the rights to successful movie franchises. This reminds me of a story (that I heard on 60 Minutes the other night) about when Richard Harris went to Jack Warner to voice a complaint about Warner making his movie version of Camelot more sexy than was originally intened. Warner took Harris to the front of the studio and asked him what it said on the sign. Harris said "Warner Brothers". Jack said, "Right. And until it says 'Harris Brothers' you'll do what I say." Ok, I've said my piece. Mod me down if you want but I had to get this off my chest.
Um, some guy makes a couple of films you like a lot. A while later he makes some more films that you don't like very much.
At what point in this story do you figure at all? Don't bother saying anything about giving him your money, 'cause that was your choice. You don't want, you don't buy. Maybe if he came to your house and pointed a gun at your head to buy the DVD...
Why does Lucas have some kind of "commitment" to you, rather than say Tom Clancy or Michael Chrichton (sp?)? They all produce a product, yet where is the outrage that Timeline made obsolutely zero sense?! (Ok read, but bugger the science!)
"He's making the films for his kids! Burn him!" What, making a film for a bunch of whiny ass-monkeys would be a better choice? Sure, they are the luckiest kids on the planet, but still, I can't think of many motivations better than doing something for you kids.
If you don't like what he's doing, sure complain about how it could be better (I sure did), but don't get so excited about how "he owes us more" or "it doesn't match my vision" or "a dog could do it better". He doesn't owe you jack and if you think you can do better, go prove it.
End of long, dumb rant, but I'm kinda sick of people bitching like Star Wars was their exclusive birthright.
Vote monkeys into Congress. They are cheaper and more trustworthy.
Not that I like NSync, but some celebrities as cameo in starwars is not so bad idea. You probably remember ET and other characters in EP1. It was kinda good.
Well.. the problem is casting. Lucas definately has some problem with casting. He should hire someone to do it.
BTW, I haven't heard any exciting news on slashdot lately... What's going on here..
Loved the first, was crushed by the next, never bothered with the third.
Boy bands getting pasted... well its a good start. Maybee they could toss that Crusher kid from that other space show and let the bots (slowly) work him over too...
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Is this gonna devalue my Empire Strikes Back poster that's signed by Lucas. I have a sinking feeling that it will. Shit.
NOW I can go to see the movie with ALL of my BEST friends. Except LISA -- who's now my EX-BEST FRIEND because she told Jason I liked him. Which I DON'T. But even if I DID she shouldn't tell him. Plus she's stuck up and a whore and besides she stuffs.
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gtg
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Teri
thinning of the herd...
Is obviously suffering from some form of writer's block. That, or the man's just burnt out.
.. I can't figure out the term. Band usually denotes those who create and play music. Artist tends to denote the same, at least musically. ..marionettes? That's about all they are, singing the lyrics of others, and dancing the moves of some guy with goofy hair.
Look at the title.. Attack of the Clones? It sounds like something that would follow the words, "Tonight, on Fox.."
That aside, should we be surprised that there's characters such as Jar Jar Binks, and now the NSYNC people are going to be in the films?
No.
Star Wars has always appealed to pop culture.
That he'd consider putting a pop
Anyway, it shouldn't come as a surprise that he'd consider giving them parts. Star Wars = Pop Culture.
Sorry to burst the bubbles of everyone here, but Star Wars != Geeks and Outcasts.
.....when you were never anything but a wholly owned, pre-fab boy-band to begin with?
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
The damage done by having a boy band or any recognizable figure in a movie based around a universe, as Star Wars is, is that recognizing them draws you out of that universe and back into the real world. This would be true whether the reaction you have toward the person is negative or positive. As an example, I found it quite bothersome to see the "E.T.'s" in the Senate scene of Ep 1. I liked ET as a child, but it took my mind out of the Star Wars plane that it was dwelling in at the time.
"Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality." -- Dalai Lama
i can remember, between episodes IV and V, seeing an article about how KISS were going to be in episode VII (or IX, or whatever). They were to play a 4-headed creature-thingy.
'NSHIT or not, though, i think these films have gone to shit since VI. i saw the trailer for II the other night; turned to my friend and said "looks like purple rain, with robots".
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO!!!!
insert random stuff here to defeat the rassum-fassum-mumble-grumble lameness filter...
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
It only makes sense to add NSYNC to this movie. It's called "Attack of the Clones", and we all know that boy bands are cloned of each other, so why not?
I intend to live forever, so far so good.
...IN THE BACKGROUND.
Sheesh, grow up. You guys all make it sound like there's going to be some big fuss about it. Hell, 99%+ of you won't even notice it when you watch the damn flick, even when you're LOOKING for them.
They're extras, and not only will you not hear them, you'll probably barely get more than a few frames of SEEING them as it is.
But if you want to all bitch about it like "Lucas fucking sucks, that sellout now makes movies for KIDS" or "goddamn, films are not pop culture" should just grow the hell up.
Besides, if you were N'Sync (or any other boy band), wouldn't YOU fight like hell to just have a walk-on in any Star Wars movie? Oh wait, I forgot. This is slashdot, and its practically a requirement to be biased against anything that isn't free or open source...
Now that they've taken over planet Earth, 'NSYNC are prepared to blow up in a galaxy far, far away.
Now that is something I'd pay to see.
Dear Mr Lucas:
When you made the original "Star Wars" movie- now known collectively as "A New Hope", your team was forced to create a motion picture here on earth. I remember watching (as a child) "The Making Of Star Wars", which showed the then young- not yet existing(?) ILM create all of the scenes we love and admire... using carefully sculpted models and stop motion photography. You were all on the cutting edge.
Repeat that story for the two movies that followed...
Then, a few years ago, you re-released those three movies with "added visuals"... claiming that THIS was the correct vision of Star Wars... the technology was absent when you created the movies- and in the end, you ruined them. You claimed it was because you were never happy with them...
That's not why you re-released the movies...
The reason you bastardized your own artwork was the same reason you marketed The Phantom Menance to a decidedly YOUNGER crowd than A New Hope- and it's the same reason that you have decided to "cast" a tennie bopper's dream-boy band as Jedi Knights in your upcoming film.
money
Shame on you, George.
Shame on you.
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"Ain't nothing but a clone attack."
"I like nothing better than to be killed that way."
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I saw the trailer in the cinema about a week ago. My impression of Episode II is that it's a sort of teen road movie or something. It kinda reminded me of American Grafitti. I think George Lucas is trying to get posters of Episode II hanging on teen girl's bedroom walls. He's just playing the marketing machine again.
Yuioup
They could give Britteny Spears a role as an alien too. They'd only have to add a little more rubber.
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Not unless he has one of the Hutt holding the boy band members on leashes while they wear the male version of the bronze bikini Carrie Fisher wore for the slavering Jabba the Hutt in Return of the Jedi...
Star Whores is more like it. Feh.
Friends help you move... Real friends help you move bodies...
He obviously wants Oscar for Best Title!
(And perhaps Best Original Song (By 'NSYNC))
:)
Fellowship 9/11
Is anyone out there still going to go see this one? I'm not!
N'Synch shows up at which time Samuel L cuts loose with his light saber and gives further reason for a shrine devoted to his bad ass.
I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
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Didn't even include any badmothing of the boy band, just the facts jack.
Thanks for the date-breaking speed michael.
Sure, Lucas is breaking no law in becoming a total whore and letting some marketing committe script his movies. In the same way, a politician breaks no laws if he sells out his principles and does exactly what some tobacco company tells him to do. Breaking a trust which is not backed up by a contract is something anyone technically has a right to do. And just like no one is forcing you to buy any specific movie ticket, no one forces you to re-elect the backstabbing politician. Does that make this sort of behavior is alright?
Lucas, like some corporate-tool-politician, has shat on the heads of the very people who made him what he is. But it's worse than that in his case. You see, only Lucas can legally make the remaining movies in the Star Wars epic because he owns every last bit of Star Wars IP. There are plenty of directors out there who would be willing and able to finish the series well. Unfortunately, their doing so would be illegal. If LOTR had been made badly, I could have tried to make it again, though better. The future Star Wars movies will be made badly, but we have no recourse. We just have to take it, even if they're opportunistic, poll-driven, stroryless product placement ads (which they will be).
The Lucas of today makes me feel dirty for ever having liked Star Wars and for having spent every cent of my childhood allowance on those overpriced action figures. I imagine some people who voted for Nixon felt betrayed in the same way. Fine... I was a tool, a means to an end for some greedy bastard in whom I once had faith. Excuse me if I'm a little mad about that, but maybe being indignant about this sort of thing is a necessary part of self-respect.
Man!! Forget outaSYNC, If he had ANY brains, he would've chosen Britney Spears to appear in SW2! :-) She could be the Manager of a Burlesque House on a Far away planet, where she has a one night stand with a very sexually active 20-something Anakin SkyWalker! Then we can blame Britney for Bringing him to the Dark Side. It's Perfect! If Georgy-boy wants to make money, then I want Britney. Screw lipSYNC.
P.S. It just ain't what it is used to be. Everything changes.
P.P.S. I am a fan of SW, why can't I have Cameo? Huh? Huh? Why?!?! sniff, sniff.
.. since I wouldn't recognise any of them anyway unless they had the name of the band written on their t-shirts.
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"Attack of the killer robots" - Starring new hot teenage pop stars!!!
Since we've established that the movie's target audience misses the Slashdot demographics by a mile, maybe it would be good judgement on the part of /. editors to not make a major story out of every stupid Star Wars rumor. They should seriously consider treating it the franchise more like they Dumbo and Barney (with a nostalgic and heavy heart for what the Star Wars prequels could have been). Slashdot is full of former Star Wars fans. With enough /. hype, there will surely be hundreds of readers who pay Lucas for a seat "just to see how bad it really is." And we don't owe him that. We may owe him a bit of ridicule, but more than that, we owe him some indifference. Since the commentators here seem to agree, I hope the editors are wise enough to show some restraint. "Star Wars sucks now" is no longer "News for Nerds."
"OK, after episode 1, no one can pretend that Star Wars hasn't basically turned into children's entertainment."
HOLY SHIT - tell me it aint true please - id rather see Britney Spears the queers puhleeeez
Anyone have an idea why the Jedis can not free Anakin's mother from slavery. Is it against Jedi ethics?
You can save the universe but you can not free a slave, bah!
what's the one thing star wars has always been good at? better than any other theatrical conveyance?
MERCHANDISING!!
george lucas has always fFaithfully created every stupid minor character in the fFilm in stunning detail. there's dozens of ewoks, fFor example. droids that appear fFor a second or two have a piece of merchandising behind them.
so. N*Sync wanted to be a set of toys. so what do they do? they call their agent, and their agent calls george lucas.
Lucas sees an opportnity to attract shit-loads of adoring fFans of the fFemale persuasion (a demographic which is always lacking in the star wars audience).
everyone gets what they want.
even the geeks who want to see N*Sync get blown up.
I think the target demographic for these films has changed a little since the original trilogy.
Do you think so?
I saw the original when I was nine years old, and I thought it was fantastic. My dad was in his 30's and I think he enjoyed watching it with me, but he did not get obsessed, and go out and spend loads of money on plastic figures, chat with all his mates about it all the time, and spend all night queuing for tickets for The Empire Strikes Back.
I am now in my 30s, if I had a nine year old son, I would take him to see Attack of the Clones, and enjoy watching it with him. It's not the target demographic that has changed. People have grown up..
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I'm just wondering if they get to do part of the soundtrack as well?
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So people actually liked it in the US? When I saw it people in the cinema were laughing out loud at the ending because it was such a bad film - I really felt ripped off. I wasn't aware it got great ratings in the US, did it really?
Lucas is, quite simply, out of touch with his own vision. No one argues that Star Wars is a fairy tale, and a damn good one at that. But look at what makes good fairy tales! Harry Potter is a prime example of a modern day fairy tale that has won the hearts of millions of fanatics of ALL AGES, much the way Star Wars did years ago. Toy Story is another example, where everyone loves it, kids and adults. LOTR is doing it in theaters right this very moment, some half century after its original writing.
The fact is, Lucas did something once upon a time that was magic by creating something for people of all ages to love. You can't really say that about the new movies, something is missing. I think what's missing is both in Lucas and everyone else.
The target demographic of the original movies was not really children, but everyone. Kids don't understand the concept of a Republic vs. an Empire and what that means, or the sexual tension between Han and Leia. That stuff is in there for adults too. And don't forget the violence (which is present in all fairy tales by the way, pick up the Grimms if you don't believe me) which is relatively absent from episode 1. No dead gungans lying around, they're too fucking marketable! Even the Ewoks were slaughtered en masse. These "adult" concepts are things that are very real, that reach out to us and touch us from inside and connect us to the story long after the fantasy has faded away. Harry Potter does this. LOTR does this. Why not episode 1?
I wish I had an answer to these questions, but the fact is that Lucas is simply not targeting his demographic anymore. When he made the first movie, his priority was simply getting it made because he couldn't worry about anything else. Make the movie, and people will come. His demographic was the project itself. Now his demographic is what he thinks audiences will want from him, and he's bending things to this vision. He's not serving the story anymore, he's trying to serve us all, and in doing so he's cheating everyone of something that should have been great.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
actualy, for some reason I found an interview Lucas did while making Return of the Jedi, in which he claimed that that film would be the last starwars film he made. If only he'd kept his word...
Who knows, if lucas is still around 20 years from now and decides he wants another few billion dolars...
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
Who's the marketDROID who thought this one up.
What the hell is this troll? You're saying because Lucas signed an unknown actor for his low budget unknown science fiction film in the late 70's, that having what is right now the world's largest, most visible, and most marketable band show up in what is likely the most visible franchise film series the past decades is even comparable?
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
I've heard the reason for this particular Jedi cameo is that Mr Lucas' daughter like N Sync... They'll probably also just be seen in a split second in the movie in that giant Jedi battle. I also heard they'll get killed pretty soon. :)
So don't worry, you'll most likely not even notice them being in the film.
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Rated 4K (for kids only) No people over 16!.
The first SW sucks. But after I saw the trailer. I think the new one will be worst.!!
Cinema as anything other than elongated MTV is dead; marketing to kids is all that matters.
I went to see LotR on New Years Day and it stunk - badly written, very badly directed, with ZERO characterisation. Yet kids in the cinema were applauding at the end. People on /. rave about it and the IMDB has it as the best film of all time. Why? Because it had very good special effects.
So, keep all your crap about Lucas selling out, he's only going where the audience are leading.
TWW
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
"The MTV article says that NSYNC asked for the part; an article in a UK tabloid says Lucas asked them."
I heard NSYNC is making an appearence by request of Lucas' daughter.
How many of you will vote with your pocket book, and mindshare by not seeing it (including in the theater, pirating it, renting it on video, etc)...
:)).
Wouldn't it be a lot more quiet in here if all the rest of you would shut up?
I'll go see it. It'll have cool FX, lots of stuff will go boom, and I can pretend I'm a 12 yr old. Heck, at my age even a couple of hours of being a 12 yr old again will be worth it.
Do what I did next time, watch Ep 4. Watch it honestly, not in nostaliga mode. It's predictable, and geared for 12 yr olds. Gee, I seem to recall seeing commercials for Star Wars toys playing when I was 12, in between the cartoons. Maybe, just maybe, the movies aren't getting dumber, maybe we're getting older and have different tastes (I wouldn't say we're getting any smarter
Just some food for thought.
Minupla
On the whole, I find that I prefer Slashdot posts to twitter ones because I don't get limited to 140 chars before
It sure sounds like a big come-down after all the heavy adult stuff in the first series, like ... ewoks.
I remember watching 'A New Hope' in the 1970s as a university student - the average age in the cinema crowd must have been 13. I felt so old.
PS: does anyone else think of the next episode as Attack of the Clowns?
I am anarch of all I survey.
Look at the face of this issue again.
It seems the alarum was sounded because he's (*gasp*) signing pop stars with little acting experience into what many people seem to think is an unassailable classic series. In fact, Mark Hamill has a singularly undistinguished acting career except for the three SW movies. Even he knows it and parodies himself a lot. Jay & Silent Bob, numerous TV walk-ons, etc.
Corvette Summer? Shoot me now.
Star Wars stopped being about the mythology a long time ago - the 9 scripts were outlined ages ago, and he's painting himself into smaller and smaller corners by having to make everything work out according to what we all know happened in the original. We should all be able to recite the screen play for III by thte time we walk out of II.
But look at Titanic - we all know the outcome, three hours long, nails-on-the-blackboard performances, but put the right pop-idol's name on the marquee and call it an epic, and you get a license to print money.
So, at least in the studio's eyes, all that's left is to hang onto those frames whatever it takes to get people to sit in theatres for the remainder. I could watch any of these movies until my eyes popped out, but let's be honest - high art they ain't.
And it's easy to get wrapped up: when a sci-fi wonk claims - with a straight face - the term 'blockbuster' was invented for one of the SW premieres, we all need to take a moment.
And consider the converse - casting two highly regarded nearly-shakespearean actors didn't save Phantom from the wailing and rending of cloth by die-hard SW standard-bearers.
So in the scheme of things, boy-band extras is hardly a big deal, is SOP on some level, and guess what - Lucas is not immune.
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Do we all have amnesia? Jar Jar Binks sucks, this is true. However, didn't ROTJ (Return of the JEDI) also have Ewoks? Think about it, they were both seemingly innocent but ultimately had a large impact (albeit one was through rutic cleverness while the other was through clumsiness). At the time, I loved the Ewoks (I even ha dthe Ewok village)
Maybe Lucas was more objective with himself in Star Wars 4: A New Hope. He was new (only one major film out, American Graffiti), and under a tight budget. His other film in the genre, THX1138 was well thought of but not widely distributed.
If somone wants to be an extra and be shot at, I don't care. It is if they actually have lines then I start to get concerned.
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A tabloid or the shiny things network? I'm inclined to go with the tabloid - at least their fans are semi-literate. :-)
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They were rated PG, and certainly appealed to kids, but there were elements that really were targeted at adults. I'd call them family films in the truest sense of the phrase - films everyone in the family can enjoy, as opposed to the pasturized crap they call "Family Films" now.
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...do you really trust him to exercise that sort of discretion?
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But yet I'll probably still see it in the theatres. . .it's like seeing a train wreck. . .you don't want to see it because you'll know you'll be repulsed but at the same time your curious about it. . ..
.the only James Bond film to EVER disappoint me was "License to Kill". . . .
Worse comes to worse I think the new James Bond film will be out at about the same time. .
And of course, if it had been Bruce Perens and Linus Torvalds instead of N'Stink we'd all be disgusted at the blatent attempt to pander to the Linux geek market, wouldn't we? Wouldn't we? :/
After the success of Star Wars: A New Hope, Lucas didn't know what to do - he got high smoking some ego-boosting Joseph Campbell tripe and tried to claim that he had the whole multipart story laid out/written/etc. but then faltered with what has come since.
Look at the "official" book "Splinter in a Mind's Eye" - it changes what Empire and Jedi show.
SW Ep2: Attack of the Clones = Titanic In Space - really good special effects with a sappy, lame story.
...wouldn't he be playing himself ?
Oh, I can't help quoting you because everything that you said rings true
Lucas is out of his league - he has created something that is bigger than himself - that has a collective conscious that puts his imagination and originality to shame. He simply can't live up to the hype - and all the Joseph Campbell bull shit, myth creator, hero blah blah blah who gives a crap. The material was best served when he wasn't behind the camera - we all know it. He is playing now to real children, ala Disney, and you can say all you want but the first 2 movies were not just for kids. I would love to see a Soderbergh get to shoot a Stars War movie - that would be entertaining...
Empire Strikes Back has been hailed as the better of the original trilogy but didn't Lucas put in Billy Dee Williams for a similar reason he is using 'NSync?
For crying out loud, just because someone is appearing in the movie doesn't change the tone or nature of the movie. They aren't going to be a Boy Band of Jedi Knights. They get to be background actors who get fried by Battle Droids.
This is not the way to build a lasting empire.
Let me open with the fact that I thought episode II was done already. As you read the rest of my comment, bear in mind that for a very long time and infact up until recently I was a huge star wars fan.
I thought I'd have some faith in Episode II, but with this addition, I really have to question whether or not I will even see the movie..
I heard about this on the radio last night and was disappointed to say the least.. Why won't lucas sell the franchise off to someone else, or let someone else take it over, he apparently doesn't have any idea what to do with his films anymore... Give it to someone with vision, or at least someone who might remain true to what the originals were.
Yes they were cheesy at points, and the acting wasn't great, but it was a good story. Now EP:1 seemed like it was a test of technology, to push as far as it could go, and EP:2 I fear may be the same. Except that in EP:2 there is going to be a pile of fairly big name celebrities in highly advanced CG effects.
I really want to see EP:2 for the lightsaber battles, but the addition of NSuck to it may drive me from seeing the movie on the big screen at all. Its really depressing that a few well placed mistakes about these movies could ruin one of my all time favorites. I still love the originals, but the EP:1 was something of a disgrace, EP:2 unless its spectaular, above and beyond what everyone is expecting, the movie may really destroy what little is left of Star Wars. At least in my opinion anyway, yours may and probably does vary.
Here is my rant, rave, or what have you:
I liked all 4 movies. I thought Jar Jar was tolerable. I bought Star Wars toys as a kid. I could care less about N'Sayne being in the movie cuz I'll probably never even notice them. George Lucas makes movies for a living, and likes it. Yes, George is wealthy, but why should I care if he gets wealthier off my $8 cuz he made a movie I wanted to see. But.. to each his own. So.. "Let the stoning of George Lucas Begin!"
And now I put it to you... "George Lucas. Soon to be as evil as Billy Gates?"
'nuff said
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I too saw the trailer before LOTR. But what I saw was Padme/Amadalla in a corset.
Honestly, if the walk through cameo is as short as some here seem to be suggesting (walk, walk, *BOOM*), I for one, wouldn't have recognised that Nsync was even there. (I probably would have wondered about the the young girl swooning in the next row, however.)
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Luke didn't find out that Darth Vader was his father until Episode 5 or 6.
Conan said that Lucas wanted NSYNC to help C3PO look less gay. I think Lucas picked the right people to do the job.
perhaps it would be more accurate to just say, "Lucas continues along on his well established journey of selling out"
Lucas cares little about telling a well involved story for the purpose of entertaining. He just wants to hook in more people, which we know will buy toys and other merchandise that will equal more dinero for Lucas. I have long read the books (granted not ALL of them) and have always been fascinated by the universe it set up. I have also been very fascinated in seeing how things got the way they did, and I was hoping the prequel trilogy would tell that. It is apparent that Lucas does not have the ethics or talent necessary to produce movies that have adult themes and do not 'cute' their way into the wallets, er hearts, of children. LOTR was a good example of how you can make a story appeal to all, make it a family story yet without 'dumbing it down'. It is a shame that: 1) Lucas has not the ability to perform this, and 2) Refuses to admit it and let others who DO have that talent do his writing.
It seems to me, that if he let writers from the book series write the story FIRST, then had (still not him) a person write the screen adaptation, then we would have a great set of movies.
ARE YOU READY TO MERCHANDISE? Soon, no retail outlet, grocery, greeting card, toy or pet store will be free from the clutches of the merchandising machine. And of course the internet will be bursting at the seems with adds and fanboy sites. I would consider myself a fanboy, but not of Lucas. Lucas created a great idea, and deserves great credit for it. However, as evidenced by the number of people who prefer Empire Strikes Back, I think we all know that Lucas is not the one to pick to write (or oversee the writing) of any more movies, from that initial idea.
Well, just my idea. OK, I have my flame retardant gear on, so fire away!
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Wake up everybody. LOTR was dull. Theres a lot of big fat books out there, but thats no excuse to make them into terminally dull films.
No I hadn't read the book when I saw it. Should I have to? Why did it stop abruptly at the end? Whats with the stupid flaming eye thing all the time? Hence the film is pants if you've not read the book.
I have now read the (first) book. Tolkien goes something like this... Tedious mind numbing detail about place, characters walk to next place, Tedious mind numbing detail about place, characters fight ever larger creature. Repeat.
Sadly Tolkein's work now looks like the worst D&D cliches stitched together. Yes I know he invented all this stuff. So respect for that, however it STILL looks like the worst D&D cliches stitched together. So don't make a film of it. Don't even bother reading the book any more as IT LOOKS LIKE THE WORST D&D CLICHES STITCHED TOGETHER. Read a modern fantasy book that builds upon the (admittedly solid) foundations laid by Tolkein.
For all the people saying "they're only in it for a second and they'll get killed anyway", or some variant of that, I dont think it matters. If you see even a little spot of mold on a piece of bread, you dont eat it. If you see even a little scratch on a new car, you dont buy it. I dont care if they're in it for 10 seconds or 2 hours, they're in it. We might as well slap a wig, some lipstick, a miniskirt and some 4" heels on Lucas, because he's whored himself out. To advertisers, to his daughter, to some prancing prettyboy pop band, it doesnt matter. The movie isn't a pure anymore. This leads me to believe that the movie will be as plastic and artificial and commercial as the music of the wannabe musicians that will be in it. man i'm pissed.
Attack of the clones?
Perhaps it's a war to rid the universe of the ultimate evil NSync! Please oh please!
Sigh...from my submission list:
2002-01-02 18:21:16 N'Sync in "Attack of the Clones" (articles,movies) (rejected)
Whatever...
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"I was not put on this earth to listen to meat! Frylock..were you?" -Master Shake
So's their music.
*ba-dum*
Incidently, while Hamill is notorious for making crappy, crappy movies, he does really great voiceover work in animation - as the Joker in the Batman animated show on the WB, and several other things I can't think of now and can't be bothered to find.
...is Tiggers are wonderful things...
How can you possibly suggest that Tigger is a cartoon character from which adults can glean nothing?
If everyone were like Pooh, the world would be a much nicer place in which to live. And we all need a little Tigger from time to time.
What if I gave you three dollars? How much? Thr-- four dollars? Keep talking, I'm listening.
That Star Wars, once an Icon for originality and daring filmmaking, should now become an Icon for corporate filmmaking and the typical crap coming out of Hollywood nowdays. What a collective kick in the face. Thanks George, I'm still clawing the dirt out of my teeth from TPM.
Don't feed me any pussy arguments about Lucas not owing his fans anything. That's bullshit of the highest order. His fans made him into what he is today. Granted, Lucas created Star Wars, the IP is his, and I support his right to do whatever he wants with it. That does not mean I won't tear him to shreds for destroying the artistic integrity of his work. Artistic merit is not decided by the creator of the art, it is decided by the reception of the art by the audience and the reception of the art ONLY.
It's about Greedo shooting first. That sums up everything. All those clever little edits to the original trilogy to make it less daring... we should have suspected something then. We walked into TPM like walking into a brick wall. Everyone was willing to give Lucas so much credit because Indiana jones and Star Wars were so awesome. I think Lucas has just burned up all the leeway he's going to be allowed. I haven't felt this dirty since Metallica's sellout.
You know what reaction the AOTC (or Starwars 90210) trailer has been getting in any theater I've seen it in? Snorts, guffaws, shrugs, rolling eyes. When I attended the midnight LOTR premiere, that crowd was VERY harsh. The trailer was openly booed by the audience, with a few in the back even shouting "SELLOUT" over the general chatter. The word is out... It's not that N'Synch is awful (which they are), it's just the mere IDEA that Lucas would include them in the first place.
I'm not sure if I'll go see it in the theater at all. I think I'll download a rip of this one first and give it a good look. I know this one will be pirated before it hits the silver screen, just due to the number of disgruntled SW fans. If the rip looks good, maybe I'll go see it. I won't hold my breath. This movie just looks like a rehas of Titanic and Pearl Harbor with Lightsabers. Big friggin deal. How pedestrian.
I won't be buying any SW DVDs, including the original series if they contain the edits. I'll make my own DVDs from the original Laserdisc editions before I give Lucas one more dollar.
I'd so love to be wrong on this one...
Hell is being intelligent in a world full of idiots.
"But unfortunately for fans they are all bumped off within seconds by savage androids"
At least its what most the audiance will want to see.
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> How is this informative? all he did was quote from the article.
Well, since nobody on Slashdot reads the articles before commenting on them...
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...well, Star Wars created its own demographic in 1976 when it came out.
However, the people who fit this target demographic now actually like the whole pop music crapola (Brittany Spears, NSync, et al). The target demographic of 1976 is now the older (read: 30's) group of SlashDot...
You know humility when you talk to a young person about something that happened in the late 70's/early 80's, which still seems like yesterday, and realize that they were just born that year...
Is anyone else looking forward to this Jar Jar/N'Sync reunion in a couple of years?
if i can watch the movie without noticing a boyband member in all the fray than i don't care. george lucas really screwed the pooch on this one.
let's not have any more articles about star wars - it's obvious that Lucas could put his bleeding sphincter on film and make more money from the fanboys than should be lawfully allowed('Howard the Duck' anyone?).
Yes but Big Bird was not a sith lord in Star Wars a New Hope. Can you imagine Captain Kangaroo as the voice of Vader? Sorry but this seriously taints my feelings towards this movie and my anticipation for others.
I probably wouldn't mind this crap so much if they bothered to spend as much effort on the script and characters than they do deciding to film it digitally and all that crap.
Like many, I saw the commentary movies they put up on the starwars.com site (btw, I always like to be kept in the dark as much as possible before seeing a movie - but with the new Star Wars, I figured what the hell). They go on excrutiating detail of why they choose to film digitally and about film making as an art and all that stuff we really just don't give a shit about.
None of that half baked shit is why we liked Star Wars in the first place.
Anyone try watching Phantom Menace a second or thrid time? It's just not interesting. You probably find yourself waiting to see the Darth Maul fight the whole time. And don't get me started on that drone activating and starship flying pansy. He does nothing else in the movie before the fight except look like a bad ass and press a few buttons.
Another great director turned whore.
Hollywood, how we do love thee and thy destructive ways.
I'm convinced the only prerequisite to working for George Lucas is the ability to say, "yes sir, that is an excellent idea."
I've got a bad feeling about this.
It could have been alot worse, they may have wanted to contribute to the soundtrack in some way.
I read this yesterday in the New York Post. Apparently 'Nsync play almost faceless Jedi in the background of a battle. A few second after they appear, they are slaughtered by battle drones.
So basically, all of us who hate 'Nsync get our wishes fufilled, and see them obliterated.
"Moving through the masses like a fish through water." syrup
The unknown actors were fairly evenly divided between good and bad. For every Mark Hamill overexpression there was a Harrison Ford smirk (remember, he wasn't a big name back then). For all of Carrie Fisher's swooning there was Anthony Daniels's angst, which he could express even without showing a human facial expression.
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I don't think anyone calling themselves a "/.er" has any self respect to begin with.
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This could turn out pretty well for Lucas; it could probably draw in two opposing demographics: the people who want to see nsync, and those who want to see them dead.
George Lucas can kiss his credibility "bye-bye-bye" (as if!?)
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Get disemboweled and sliced from head to toe with light sabres.
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Sounds like proof positive there IS a God. . . not that Lucas PLANNED it that way. . .
Look for stupid hair-styles. All boy bands are required by law to have at least one member with stupid-looking hair; you just have to associate hair-style with band name.
Dunno how many people remember, but when the first Star Wars films were fresh from the theater, Lucas allowed R2D2 and C3PO to show up in several Sesame Street episodes, right along-side Big Bird and crew.
He's *always* been a proponent of connecting the films to popular culture at the time of their release, in an attempt to gain more fans.
Nowdays, kids are more likely to watch the cartoons on Nickelodeon (Spongebob, Rugrats, etc.), and/or be into the latest boy/girl band crazes.
let me rephrase this
given that the intended audience for EP4/5 seemed to be wider than EP6-2, im curious which movies made more adjusted dollars and or wider viewing at the boxoffice.
Anyone know?
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Get Irvin Kershner to direct episode III. The man is a genius. Just look at Ep. 5 and Robocop 2. Ep. 3 is supposed to be bad-assed and dark as hell. IMHO, it should be so violent as to deserve an R-rating in order to justify the sappiness of Ep. 1.
> And you did that by hovering your mouse over the time, didn't you?
No, just the mouse pointer. Hovering the mouse would be just stupid.
Geez.
I will certainly NEVER see this one. I waited for Ep1 to come out on video before I sprang for that one. Wont do it for Ep2.
Since the obvious audience for the latest incarnations, even starting back with Ep4 and those goddamn-stupid-awful muppet-like Ewoks, is the diaper-wearing set.
Jar-Jar, Ewoks, a thumbsucking-aged Anakin/Darth who DRAG RACES(He should be yanked from his parents by social services since they had no problems with endangering the life of a frickin' infant), NSYNC... Damn diaper-wearering kiss-assing. Damn Lucas and his declining mental acuity and emotional regression.
It IS possible to make an excellent movie, tell a cool story, that both adults and children can enjoy without dumbing it down to the lowest-common-denominator by sticking muppets and other cartoonish, ridiculous super-infants into it (see LOTR...even Harry Potter had a more mature focus than Lucas' Star Wars as it plods on).
In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
Yeah, that Alec Guinness guy screwed the whole thing up for me. The whole time I was watching I couldn't help but see Doctor Zhivago. And don't even get me started about Peter "This is a horror film?!?" Cushing. (End Sarcasm)
The point is that even a big name actor can act well enough to make you forget who he/she is, if he/she acts well enough. They fail with disturbing regularity, but they can also succeed.
That said, I don't think the boys from N'Sync are up to the task.
Virg
I saw a great episode of Frontline on PBS a while back. They talked about the entertainment industry as a whole and movies in particular. Target audience for new movies : 13-20 y.o. males.
To quote Roger Ebert (interviewed for this show): "If you are 30yrs old and literate, they are not making movies for you, sorry."
Actually, I think it would be really funny if "Clone" boy bands attacked N'Sync. Maybe Boyz2men, the backstreet boys and 98 degrees could all come at them with lightsabers!
Lucas is still targeting the same demographic...
KIDS.
Not the generation of 20 years ago who went and saw the first movies as children.
He's targetting TODAYS kids.
And things like Jar Jar and NSYNC are just what little kids like.
Sure there's stuff for the parents to enjoy as well, but this is an action/adventure series for older children / young adolescents.
It's not OUR Star Wars. It never was. It was Lucas's all this time.
As long as they don't start singing "Bye Bye Bye" whenever they blow up an imperial ship, it can't be *TOO* bad
No, a cameo is just the term the industry uses for "bit part" when said part goes to a well-known person. It's basically to avoid insulting a big name celebrity. For example, when Christian Slater appeared for ten seconds as a captain's lackey on "Star Trek VI: The Undiscoverd Country" it was labelled a cameo.
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Well, I can see why Britney Spears belongs in "Star Wars: Attack of the Clones" but there's only one Ron Jeremy.
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will all take turns blowing jar jar binks where he will then die from being over-sexed and then N'stink will get jar jar goo all over their faces..
http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/Top10everad .html
2 Star Wars* 1977 $461.00 $865.91
14 The Empire Strikes Back* 1980 $290.20 $468.62
15 Return of the Jedi* 1983 $309.10 $449.66
16 Star Wars: The Phantom Menace 1999 $431.10 $442.15
Surprisingly ESB is higher than ROTJ in adjusted dollars.
On a side note gone with the wind is number one with over 1 billion domestic adjusted dollars.
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Now that Lucas has added N Sync to the movie, he could make it a musical and call it "Send in the Clones". Now that would really get the attention of his target demographic, 13 year old girls.
I don't think I'll even bother seeing E2, it was painful to see E1 just once. I refuse to suffer through it again.
>I think the target demographic for these films >has changed a little since the original trilogy.
No it hasn't, we've just grown out of it. It's always been targetted at pre-teens and young teens, just because a bunch of geeks want to think that it's targetted at an older generation so as to not feel bad about watching it doesn't make it so.
I don't think his targetting the 12-14yr demographic is by any means selling out. After all, how many of us owned a light saber at age 12?
More importantly, Lucas wants his series to be a classic. He wants the new-age myth of Star Wars to outlive him. Can it be that this is just Tabloid BS and Lucas isn't such an idiot to include N-SYNC?
After all, if the series does outlive him (and the rest of us), who will remember N-SYNC in 10 years? In 2 years?
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For lucas its merchandising! Go watch spaceballs for better comentary on that than I can give.
Bring back the old version of slashdot.
Is the movie called Attack of the Clones because NSYNC is a clone of the Back Street Boys?
I think the target demographic for these films has changed a little since the original trilogy.
What do you mean the target demographic has changed? Star Wars has always been for and will always be for childen and adults that are young at heart. The Saga has never changed its target since the original trilogy, you just grew up and see the world from a little more mature perspective.
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I guess he has the right to kill it....:(
I'd say the cinema (or cinemas) in your area suck. I've been to a theatre that I really enjoy (good sound system, stadium seats that recline, big cupholders, free drink refills even on the way out, etc.) many times over three years, and the only technical flaw I encountered was a blown bulb that stopped the projector for a mere ten seconds.
In short, go find a decent cinema. You're right to say that the crap is unacceptable.
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the movie of by sacrificing JAR-JAR to some heinously evil force...Man that would have been good:) Philip K Dick could have done justice to the plot as well...
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
They play Jedi knights. That sucks, right? wrong. here's why, according to an article on salon:
"The boy banders will play Jedi Knights in a battle scene, but will be glimpsable only on the DVD release of the film and only for a split second -- before they're blown to high heaven by a pack of bloodthirsty droids."
Seems okay to me. I just hope it's gory.
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Why did you have to remind us of that abomination! Aaaaaagh! Now I have to pour Lysol in my ears!
Yes! It really was that horrible!
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In the original theatrical release, Greedo didn't shoot at all. That was the part where you started seeing Han Solo as a darker character, and in the remake Lucas decided to present him as more of a "white hat" hero.
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Goddamn it, I'm not dissing Dumbo. But you don't see a Dumbo icon on /. and you can figure out why. Since Star Wars has turned into children's entertainment, I think it has as little place on Slashdot as Dumbo.
Jar-Jar sucked, and episode 1's target audience was Lucas's three adolescent adoptees. I don't like him any more. BUT
After his 13-year-old girl bugged him to let N'SYNC guys into the movie, he showed her by putting them in a scene where they appear in the background for a fraction of a second, amidst a crowd of hundreds of others, and then get killed.
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OK, then your complaint is not why he's doing it, but that he's doing it. In this case, though, I have to ask why having the members of N*Sync as four of the extras is any different than having four equipment riggers as the extras, in terms of artistic vision. To cite a different example, in the scene in "The Sound of Music" where Julie Andrews (as Maria) approaches the convent, the real Maria von Trapp is one of the extras walking on the street. There was no reason artistically why it had to be her on the street, but there she was, and it didn't do any damage to the movie's artism. Yes, there's no reason why N*Sync band members had to be there, but how does it damage the movie? If you didn't know it was them, would you have even noticed? Therefore, I can say (at least in this case), no harm, no foul. He's sold out in many ways, but this is a bad example.
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would be to have Britney Spears in one of those dancing girl outfist in Jabba's palace.
Finally, someone clued me in to what this Wookie-TV memory is that has been haunting me.
Yes, my earliest memory of television was Wookies standing around talking. This has been haunting me for years about what the hell that was. After all, Star Wars was a movie. Why did I have memories of Wookies on TV? And after all... how did I know that Chewbacca had two kid Wookies?
All I remember about this (after all, I was four at the time) was the fact that Wookies had families in big trees, and that they came in other shades of brown instead of Chewbacca brown.
I don't remember the rest, because MY MOM TURNED OFF THE TV. I was sitting there watching the show in my Star Wars PJs and she turned it off. I remember I was rather disappointed.
Apparently, as I just found out today reading the articles, THERE WAS A REASON FOR THAT. Actually, a very funny, ridiculous reason for that. My sister went upstairs and watched it. Looks like I'll have to ask her how bad it was.
Thanks... I feel better. I laughed when I though about my mom turning off the TV.
I read as many of the responses to this article as I could, but the overwhelming urge to vomit was difficult to withstand. Why?
Because the people of this forum make me sick sometimes.
Now, it's not everyone so don't get all defensive on me. The majority of posters on /. seem to have a simple-minded approach to everything in this world. They believe the world and everything in it revolves around them. The world should serve them and bend to their will. If they don't like something, then it sucks. Or it's a monopoly. Or it's a sign of an egomaniac. Or it's a marketing ploy. Please...Spare me the time to read the crap spewing from your keyboard.
Feel free to rate this post as a troll or flamebait, but you'll simply be supporting my argument, so it's up to you. I won't waste any more time on this argument than I already have, but I had to get it off my chest.
Now on to my real comments about the article.
N'SYNC is a marketing ploy by Lucas because (he's an egomaniac) | (he's lost touch with his demographic) | (he's a sellout) | (he's a terrible writer).Ack...do you believe this junk? It's a part worthy of an extra. If it truly is something that you can blink-and-miss (as the UK article states), then they won't be talking. They can hardly be called acting. If it's a marketing ploy that's aimed to attract an audience that wouldn't normally watch a Star Wars movie, then why do we know that it's a part for an extra? Why didn't Lucas hide this fact? Why is the part so small to begin with? People of the N'SYNC fanclub age are not ignorant or stupid. They wouldn't be fooled by something as obvious as this.
I guess this begs the question as to why they are there in it in the first place. The UK article states that Lucas did it as a favor to his daughter. Damn, I think that makes Lucas at least a decent Dad. I'd do something like this for my daughter as long as it doesn't compromise the movie (if a two-second thing compromises a movie for you...you've got problems). What if the UK article is wrong?
I'm sure we can come up with other reasons. Hollywood is, after all, a rather large "business" of sorts. Businessmen do call in favors from time to time. I think this qualifies as something resembling a favor that is being done. After all, I remember reading an article that said Samuel Jackson was in Ep1 because he was a huge fan and asked for a part. Samuel Jackson's popularity still ran high in the previous years with hits such as Pulp Fiction, Die Hard 3, and The Negotiator. Not exactly movies that "geeky" Star Wars and low-budget Sci-Fi fans are known to watch, are they? But was there any controversy over this inclusion? I don't recall any. Nevermind the fact that you may like Jackson and not N'SYNC (as I'm sure is true of most of us). It's the principle that matters here. It is said that Jackson's role is expanded in Ep2. Good for him. He is a great actor and deserves it.
There's a lot of heresay involved in this speculation on both my part and that of the /.ers. It's possible that some of this information is wrong. If the part of N'SYNC resembles something requiring acting skills, then we would all have right to be pissed. If an N'SYNC song appeared on the soundtrack, we would have a right to be pissed. If some sort of cross-promotional LucasFilm N'SYNC thing appeared, we'd all be pissed. But at this moment in time, you are simply fuming over nothing.
NOTHING...
This thread isn't about the Phantom Menace and whether or not it's good, so I won't spend a lot of time on it either. Personally, I thought it was a fine film. Maybe in 10 years, it's popularity will boost from nostalgic value, too. I felt it did an excellent job of introducing what will become Darth Vader. I think Lucas did a great job of giving us a glimpse in to what the universe was like during the height of the Jedi; something many fans dreamed about. I recently watched it again and I found myself anticipating Ep2 even more now.
Finally, I read someone's post knocking the name Attack of the Clones. Please. As if The Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi were more creative and inspired. The Star Wars expanded universe talks about the Clone Wars a lot. The title alludes to a focus on the Clone Wars (which ties in to the attempt at Jedi extinction). Sounds like Attack of the Clones is an excellent title for Ep2.
regardless you won't find me in line for this piece of shit.
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
If you have to populate the movie theatre with teenage girls to get the numbers you want then fine. If nsync is is in the movie, then every clone should be a member of nsync.
Tell me that wouldn't be ironic, funny and growing Darth Vader evil. The woodeness of their acting should be directly proportional to the number of clones killed. If it isn't funny enough than make more boy bands into clones and kill them. Nuke a whole planet if you have to. The teeny booper girls will be happy and the geeks/dweeb/fans_for_more_than_five_minutes will just have to laugh if you take it far enough.
Different people should get different things out of a good movie. I think episode 1 was a little too one size fits all. How many good kids cartoons have hidden adult humor or perversion.
thunder, Thunder, Thunder Cats HOOOOOOOO!!!
Hey Nsync, embrace the dark side, you will more powerfull than you could possibly imagine.
Novel theory: Modern Man evolved from psychopath
At least Lucas has enough sense not to have Blink 182 or some stupid whiny kiddies involved with the movie.
Why is Star Wars targeted at young ninnies nowadays?
I dunno.
I think Lucas is screwing with a large dedicated audience by embeding such kiddy nonsense like Jar Jar Binks, etc.
Even the Politburo concurs with Process of Elimination http://process-of-elimination.net
Who?
just saw it in the news ... you can see'em somwhere in the background and thay are beeing blown up (not a joke !!!) ... yeah, alwas wanted to see those guy's explode ;)
As for the violence, I can't think properly because that damn JUB-JUB ewok song is haunting me. Jub jub. I'm telling you, there were plush toy sales figures dancing in the eyes of whoever designed the ewoks.
Jub-jub.
m00.
is Very sharply written. The dialouge certainly can be taken on a more "adult" level as well while children will appreciate the story.
Thats how you do a family movie everyone will enjoy, not just a kids movie.
Bring back the old version of slashdot.
> I believe he is doing this to improve the marketabity of the film.
> That is what rubs me the wrong way. The fact that I believe he is adding
> something gratuitous to the film that I dislike.
Therein lies the rub, indeed. What you believe is coloring your view of what's happening. Your problem seems to stem from the idea of using celebrities (in this case, ones you feel are inappropriate) as extras. I disagree with your reasoning here, because using celebrities (or anyone in particular, for that matter) does not fall under the artistic intent of the film. It does not stand to reason that there is no neutrality in artistic intent. Your claim is that anything that does not improve the film necessarily hurts it. By this logic, since adding N*Sync members does not improve the film, it must hurt it. Adding them in this role is plot-neutral, and so no harm. You don't know for certain why he did it, so you can't claim that he's doing it solely to improve marketability. He likely realizes that it will help marketability, but might be doing it for personal or artistic or whatever reasons. Hell, he might actually like their music, for all anyone knows. So, no foul.
To give you food for thought, how do you think you (and many other Slashdotters who have complained) would have felt if he recruited extras from members of his family? Or to Star Trek cast members, or anyone you choose that doesn't annoy you? Be careful that it's not merely the fact that it's a band that appeals to teenage girls that annoys you.
Virg
Right about now, in a creativeless Hollywood really really saturated with shallow taste and manipulated markets...
are fairy tales. They didn't commercialize their stories or date them by putting in pandering evanescent pop icons. They just crafted great stories. I wish Lucas would have styed true to that. And I am glad Jackson with LOTR has. I know which movie I'll be watching and recommending.
Excuse me, maybe I'm missing something here...
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This and Episode 1 = crap cash-in movies, no shortage of them, so why on
And did the ModoratorZ even notice that the link is the link in the article? +5 huh... So thats a 'no' then.
Ali
Negative karma, here I come!! Wheeeee...
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Just my $.02 but this doesn't seem like something you would do if you want this movie to have long-term appeal. Something as "classic" as the Star Wars series doesn't need dated pop-appeal N'Sync.
I will not be going to watch this in the theater after hearing this. A quick poll throughout my local "geek network" confirmed that others felt the same way.
Lucas, you've sold out.
Given Ep.1 ('nuff said), the fact that slush writters were contracted to write the script for Ep.1 through 3, the extremely childish trailers and now the inclusion of N'SYNC, I have absolutely now intention of paying for this movie.
I'll nab it off IRC.
I'll watch it once, and I'll likely never watch it again.
You don't get my dollars George, enjoy fitting the bill for Ep.3 on your own.
I'm 16 years old. I first saw the Star Wars movies when they were re-released in the movie theaters and I remember how great I thought they were. Then when Episode 1 was released I went to see it and was dissapointed by everything but the battle scenes. Jar-Jar Binks was not funny, the little kid sucked, the movie as a whole was nothing like the first movies. I posted this to prove that the movies have changed, not the audience.
What a shot through the heart of all old school star wars fans. Jar Jar could have been taken as a mistake, but the nsync thing really breaks my enthusiasm for any more work from Mr. Lucas.
This isn't about betrayal, this is about Lucas not wanting to create a movie that reflects your (and many slashdotters) cynical sensibilities.
so they're all SBD...
if this is true, then i have lost all faith in the world. what has it come to when i can't even have a little two hour escape without some commercial-pop-shit being rammed down my throat...be assured that my drinks/popcorn/knives are being thrown at the silver screen the moment one of those no-talent fucks steps on the scene.... ;)
PS> at least Amidala looks hotter in this one
This is trivial crap. Slashdot is supposed to be stuff that matters. Who the hell cares about the cast of the new Star Wars, without seeing the movie then deciding? I was kinda hoping they'd feature Michael Jackson somewhere in there, myself.
This is what they call testing the waters. When the marketing team finds out just how much of the band we can stomach before they start to see a decrease in projected revenue, they will reach a balance between drawing in the new market and losing the devoted fan segment.
I am predicting there will be dialogue from at least one of the band members, and multiple shots within this scene, all vaguely desgined to not interfere with the story.
Yeah, and now Natalie quits and is replace by a singing Brittany Spears. K3W1!
I own a copy of it. And it sucks.
Bad.
But the fact of the matter is that the Bea Arthur, Jefferson Airplane Starship Starship, and Diahann Carroll appearances don't help it. It still sucks. Apparently it has since it came out -- which is why it's so hard to find.
If N'Sync wants to have something to do with Star Wars, then they can -- it's called a music video. Yeah, like Cyndi Lauper's that rode the Goonies coattails. Lucas/N'Sync can sell each video for $10 to the teenyboppers. But come on -- if you need to put N'Sync in the movie itself....
Dear god, I'm going to waste $20 on this movie.
Then we went to war with the "Action Figures". Han Solo lost his head, Princess Leia had her boobs blown off, a Stormtrooper got a Colonoscopy with an M80, R2D2 got a few bottlerockets on him and he almost made orbit before the reports blew him up, etc. Whatever parts got left over we built new figures out of them. Then later when I grew up, I wished I kept those action figures in their original packaging instead of bowing them up or selling them at garage sales.
The "Boy bands" are all clones of each other. The other boy bands may be in Stormtrooper gear? ;)
As i viewed this post, this is what I saw:
How much more freaky can it get?
What the hell are you talking about, The Princess Bride being a kids movie? The Princess Bride is a spoof on fairy tales, ala Shrek, though aimed at an older, more intelligent crowd, and IMHO far superior. The Princess Bride is a masterpiece of engaging story telling and genre twisting satire. Children may like the movie for a number of reasons, but certainly can't grasp the irony, satire, and deep humor in most of the dialogue.
If you doubt me, read Goldman's book by the same name. It's a surpringly different experience, and you'll clearly see that the seemingly sentimental emotions in the movie are far more adult-oriented than come across on screen.
The only certainty is entropy.
I felt a great disturbance in the force. It was as if millions of souls cried out all at once.
Go to the Jedi Council and ask Rick McCallum to digitally edit out any members of NSYNC appearing in Episode II.
If Lucas has asked nsync(or vice versa) has he asked britney Spears /JLO to join the cast too?
I'm an attractive female gamer (rare breed, eh?) and I was pissed as hell to hear (from Tuesday's foxtrot comic of all places) Nsync is in ep2...I just about cried...I do believe it's a sign of the biblical apocalypse...there's no two ways around it...pop culture crud doesn't belong in the epic that is Ep 2...and now I'm going back to playing Rogue Leader...it's as close to undeluded Star Wars as I can get in 10 minute doses...