Man, you should have been there yesterday, when the torrent was actually released.
I got my overall ratio up to 10.00 in no time, sharing both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs. A fast connection helps with that, but still, it's really easy, and I wholly intend to repeat this in a week, when U-9.10 comes out.
Forget trying to install it. I got suspended from my local community college just for running live CDs on April Fools Day 2009, but I suspect that's more because of a stupid IT team than a hate for Linux. I didn't see much understanding when I tried to explain exactly what this thing was. I didn't do anything malicious. I just fired up a live session of an OS from a CD.
I learned a lot from mucking around with the school system, though. It was totally worth it.:) And I'm never trusting the CCAC IT team again. I like Carnegie Mellon University's computer system a lot more than that of the Community College of Allegheny County (and I currently attend CMU).
I disagree. Housing should be free. Food and water should be free. Health care should be free. Education on how to get these things should be free. Stuff required to sustain human life should be free.
However, education in general should be reasonably-priced. That much, I can give you. It costs far too much, but it's certainly worth paying for.
Blame the criminals who forced the lawmakers to make more and more complex laws.
Wait, what? Are they really criminals if all they did was exploit a loophole? I understood that a loophole, by definition, is a legal way of getting around a law. I also understood that a criminal is one to violates criminal law. But if a loophole was exploited, doesn't that mean that no law was broken, so the person cannot be considered a criminal?
"Automatic" implies that there is a rational, logical explanation. However, all that the average computer user cares to know is that "Windows" is the computer, and the computer runs on fairies and blue smoke. To the average user, computers can't be explained; the oh-so-esoteric knowledge is reserved for a select few chosen ones to understand.
tl;dr version: jury box as ineffective as the first two; ammo box time now.
I do hope someone finds a good way to organize it and pull it off.
The way I like to put it: "Bill Gates' bank account is so huge because yours used to be." Executives who deliberately take money out of the system like that are destroying the system. As long as it isn't actively circulating, it might as well not exist in our system at all.
I see. I feel similarly. The government is too influenced by corporate lobbyists who exist only to draw as much money as possible from as many wallets as possible. This sort of corruption is bred by the "deadly sin" (as some call it) of Avarice. Yes, in this case, it must be "Avarice", with a capital A. It is a special kind of greed above and beyond any seen anywhere else. It is a greed that results in the destruction of human life, both young (abortion) and old (proposed health care reform).
We can soapbox all we want about this on/., we would love to use the ballot box effectively, if only there were such a way, and I'm not even sure how the jury box is doing. When does the time come to open and use the last box to be used in defense of liberty? Why is the ammo box still off limits? I see no better ideas on how to better our standard of living.
because the "artist" in the case of LHOOQ stuck a crazy price tag on his cheap penciled Mona Lisa and called it "art" whereas your putting up a non DRMed work actually helps the public who is getting buttraped?
So, no difference in the end result, just a difference in how much money it brings in? Yes, when our laws discriminate based on what brings in more money, we are in some deep, deep trouble.
The economy won't bounce back at this rate. It won't bounce back ever until something changes to put more money back in the hands of common citizens. And that has to happen by lowering company profits and the highest salaries, while raising salaries of lower workers. It's a zero-sum game inside a closed system, and I believe that the only way out is a change that goes something like this.
in practice it just gives them another bullet point on their PPT they show the congress critters they are bribing about how profits are down so it MUST be pirates. After all their shit never stinks and they are "too big to fail" so it HAS to be anyone other than their own incompetence, didn't you know that?
Hmm...good point. It'd be some kind of awesome political miracle of this were to happen:
*RIAA representative presents a Microsoft PowerPoint(tm) (running on Microsoft Windows(tm) XP(tm) Professional(R)) presentation to Congress* RIAA representative: "...and that's why the software pirates are clearly at fault for our lower profits. It definitely has nothing to do with the worldwide economic crash."
Hypothetical critical congress critter: "That's nice and all, but how do you know that your product doesn't just suck? And how do you know that your locked-down version is worth paying for when it is also available unlocked and de-DRM'd and for free?"
Someone influential really needs to decide to ask that question.
Side-note, because it just occurred to me: Why is purchasing a piece of software, stripping the DRM out of it, and putting that up for download illegal? How is that different from creating a derivative work? Of course, the comparison that I want to make is to L.H.O.O.Q. What's the difference between stripping DRM out of a piece of software and re-painting a modified Mona Lisa?
Okay, now that Microsoft makes an antivirus, someone explain to me why they haven't simply dedicated all this effort to debugging Windows, closing security holes and stabilizing code? Can anyone now sufficiently explain their motivation to do so? I don't see anymore reason for Microsoft to clean up the mess that they made, now that they've thrown a board over the pothole instead of repaving the frickin' road.
If Microsoft makes Windows secure and stable, then, in theory, the antivirus industry is out of business. Someone, please, convince me to remove my tinfoil hat.
You mean it's not a "real" desktop OS if most of the people using it are geeks? Are we not real people? Do we not count?
Of course we don't count. We're the ones who don't believe in the fairies and the magic blue smoke that everyone else knows make computers run. Therefore, we are considered either (a) insane or (b) to have esoteric, gnostic knowledge available only to a chosen few, that is designed to be completely incomprehensible for anyone else.
Or maybe people just can't get past the idea of users and developers being one and the same. It could be either possibility.
Aside from this, my experience is that the "clueless" users can install software from the repositories as long as they are instructed in how to do so (just as they have to be instructed on how to install software in Windows or OS X), and they are certainly a lot less likely to end up completely screwing up the computer, leaving reinstall as the only recourse.
I wholly agree. My aunt screwed up her Windows (XP) laptop quite badly, and she didn't want me to break copyright law for her sake (she didn't have a Windows installation CD). So, I went with the legal cost-free option instead. I spent an afternoon with her, having her watch me install Ubuntu, and then I showed her around the interface. She knew her web browser (Firefox), and I pointed her to OpenOffice and the repositories, so that she could do her office stuff and get new applications. She had two other questions after that. What antivirus/firewall did I recommend (my answer: you can't run Windows programs, anyway, so no worries), and something mouse-related (which my father was able to answer). I was able to help her with anything she needed as an end-user.
I haven't heard anything since. More importantly, it doesn't look like she hates the different OS. I'm pleased with myself.
The funny part is that Google is beating MS in their own game. They are actually improving the MS browser so that users can properly and smoothly use Google products
And if your browser's so screwed up that you can't even use Google properly, you know you screwed up, and you know you screwed up bad.
Seriously, the only code monkeys that could produce a browser that doesn't work with Google would have to be actual monkeys.
No, I'm not talking about those little blurbs of text added to the end of your posts. I'm talking about when you have to agree to a contract or use a credit card or something. You need to be able to sign your name. If cursive writing is eliminated, what are we going to put on the line that's not marked "Print name"?
And if cursive is becoming less and less used, as TFS says, then that's all the more reason to learn the skill and keep it alive. When you pull out that form of writing, you mean business. You mean serious business.
What will we do if we can't sign our names on important documents?
Wait, did I mention contracts and credit cards? Okay, kill it in the US, but keep it around the rest of the world.
I'm wondering where you got your info (besides the incorrect summary, of course).
You got it. Now, are you quite finished wondering what other site could possibly have such incorrect information, or am I going to be subjected to this same question every time you respond to me?
Slashdot's the only news site I pay attention to. Of course I'm affected by the ridiculous amounts of bias/. has for and against different things and ideas. And, while I used to read the articles, I've gotten progressively lazier with it.
Actually, no, I do generally RTFA. I just happen not to have in this case, because I was lazy today from not having much sleep last night. I plan to sleep quite well tonight, wake up between 10:00-13:00 tomorrow, and maybe read something more interesting than the summary from this article.
tl;dr version - I'm so horribly misinformed because I hang out here with you guys.
Slashdot Mirror
Man, you should have been there yesterday, when the torrent was actually released.
I got my overall ratio up to 10.00 in no time, sharing both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs. A fast connection helps with that, but still, it's really easy, and I wholly intend to repeat this in a week, when U-9.10 comes out.
Yeah, stupid microsoft! what were they thinking!?
oh wait.. this is apple? Wow, this may actually be the final straw that made Linux win against Apple's Mac OS X.
Fixed that for you. It's still a long way off from competing with Windows, in terms of market share, regardless of how awesome it is.
Is that sort of like doubling the clock speed of a CPU?
Just trying to get a computer analogy out there, so that I can understand what you're talking about with respect to cars.
$ dd if=Phat_Tony/dna of=Phat_Tony.iso
. . .
*at least five years later*
Okay, then, let's see what we can make of this data.
Forget trying to install it. I got suspended from my local community college just for running live CDs on April Fools Day 2009, but I suspect that's more because of a stupid IT team than a hate for Linux. I didn't see much understanding when I tried to explain exactly what this thing was. I didn't do anything malicious. I just fired up a live session of an OS from a CD.
I learned a lot from mucking around with the school system, though. It was totally worth it. :) And I'm never trusting the CCAC IT team again. I like Carnegie Mellon University's computer system a lot more than that of the Community College of Allegheny County (and I currently attend CMU).
I disagree. Housing should be free. Food and water should be free. Health care should be free. Education on how to get these things should be free. Stuff required to sustain human life should be free.
However, education in general should be reasonably-priced. That much, I can give you. It costs far too much, but it's certainly worth paying for.
Okay, then, I'll fix it:
They are bound to get it right sooner or later.
Blame the criminals who forced the lawmakers to make more and more complex laws.
Wait, what? Are they really criminals if all they did was exploit a loophole? I understood that a loophole, by definition, is a legal way of getting around a law. I also understood that a criminal is one to violates criminal law. But if a loophole was exploited, doesn't that mean that no law was broken, so the person cannot be considered a criminal?
What's wrong with "automatic"?
"Automatic" implies that there is a rational, logical explanation. However, all that the average computer user cares to know is that "Windows" is the computer, and the computer runs on fairies and blue smoke. To the average user, computers can't be explained; the oh-so-esoteric knowledge is reserved for a select few chosen ones to understand.
Here's a dollar. Buy yourself a- no, y'know what? Save that for now. Dollars can't really do jack-diddly at the moment.
tl;dr version: jury box as ineffective as the first two; ammo box time now.
I do hope someone finds a good way to organize it and pull it off.
The way I like to put it: "Bill Gates' bank account is so huge because yours used to be." Executives who deliberately take money out of the system like that are destroying the system. As long as it isn't actively circulating, it might as well not exist in our system at all.
I see. I feel similarly. The government is too influenced by corporate lobbyists who exist only to draw as much money as possible from as many wallets as possible. This sort of corruption is bred by the "deadly sin" (as some call it) of Avarice. Yes, in this case, it must be "Avarice", with a capital A. It is a special kind of greed above and beyond any seen anywhere else. It is a greed that results in the destruction of human life, both young (abortion) and old (proposed health care reform).
We can soapbox all we want about this on /., we would love to use the ballot box effectively, if only there were such a way, and I'm not even sure how the jury box is doing. When does the time come to open and use the last box to be used in defense of liberty? Why is the ammo box still off limits? I see no better ideas on how to better our standard of living.
because the "artist" in the case of LHOOQ stuck a crazy price tag on his cheap penciled Mona Lisa and called it "art" whereas your putting up a non DRMed work actually helps the public who is getting buttraped?
So, no difference in the end result, just a difference in how much money it brings in? Yes, when our laws discriminate based on what brings in more money, we are in some deep, deep trouble.
The economy won't bounce back at this rate. It won't bounce back ever until something changes to put more money back in the hands of common citizens. And that has to happen by lowering company profits and the highest salaries, while raising salaries of lower workers. It's a zero-sum game inside a closed system, and I believe that the only way out is a change that goes something like this.
If you undermine property rights of INDIVIDUALS, you are taking a jack hammer to the foundations of the economy.
I thought someone already took a jackhammer to the foundation of the economy somehow. Why else would it have collapsed?
in practice it just gives them another bullet point on their PPT they show the congress critters they are bribing about how profits are down so it MUST be pirates. After all their shit never stinks and they are "too big to fail" so it HAS to be anyone other than their own incompetence, didn't you know that?
Hmm...good point. It'd be some kind of awesome political miracle of this were to happen:
*RIAA representative presents a Microsoft PowerPoint(tm) (running on Microsoft Windows(tm) XP(tm) Professional(R)) presentation to Congress*
RIAA representative: "...and that's why the software pirates are clearly at fault for our lower profits. It definitely has nothing to do with the worldwide economic crash."
Hypothetical critical congress critter: "That's nice and all, but how do you know that your product doesn't just suck? And how do you know that your locked-down version is worth paying for when it is also available unlocked and de-DRM'd and for free?"
Someone influential really needs to decide to ask that question.
Side-note, because it just occurred to me: Why is purchasing a piece of software, stripping the DRM out of it, and putting that up for download illegal? How is that different from creating a derivative work? Of course, the comparison that I want to make is to L.H.O.O.Q. What's the difference between stripping DRM out of a piece of software and re-painting a modified Mona Lisa?
Okay, now that Microsoft makes an antivirus, someone explain to me why they haven't simply dedicated all this effort to debugging Windows, closing security holes and stabilizing code? Can anyone now sufficiently explain their motivation to do so? I don't see anymore reason for Microsoft to clean up the mess that they made, now that they've thrown a board over the pothole instead of repaving the frickin' road.
If Microsoft makes Windows secure and stable, then, in theory, the antivirus industry is out of business. Someone, please, convince me to remove my tinfoil hat.
Actually, they could be useful for that.
Here, you forgot this:
Or is my professor's grading script simply stupid when it comes to source code?
If what you say is true, then clearly, this is the case. I swear, the grading script has been the most broken program used this semester.
Computers can't even grade source code. How are they supposed to understand English?
Or is my professor's grading script simply stupid when it comes to source code?
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!!!!
It is. But I have (a) low standards and (b) little else to go on.
You mean it's not a "real" desktop OS if most of the people using it are geeks? Are we not real people? Do we not count?
Of course we don't count. We're the ones who don't believe in the fairies and the magic blue smoke that everyone else knows make computers run. Therefore, we are considered either (a) insane or (b) to have esoteric, gnostic knowledge available only to a chosen few, that is designed to be completely incomprehensible for anyone else.
Or maybe people just can't get past the idea of users and developers being one and the same. It could be either possibility.
Aside from this, my experience is that the "clueless" users can install software from the repositories as long as they are instructed in how to do so (just as they have to be instructed on how to install software in Windows or OS X), and they are certainly a lot less likely to end up completely screwing up the computer, leaving reinstall as the only recourse.
I wholly agree. My aunt screwed up her Windows (XP) laptop quite badly, and she didn't want me to break copyright law for her sake (she didn't have a Windows installation CD). So, I went with the legal cost-free option instead. I spent an afternoon with her, having her watch me install Ubuntu, and then I showed her around the interface. She knew her web browser (Firefox), and I pointed her to OpenOffice and the repositories, so that she could do her office stuff and get new applications. She had two other questions after that. What antivirus/firewall did I recommend (my answer: you can't run Windows programs, anyway, so no worries), and something mouse-related (which my father was able to answer). I was able to help her with anything she needed as an end-user.
I haven't heard anything since. More importantly, it doesn't look like she hates the different OS. I'm pleased with myself.
stable releases
Microsoft? "Stable" release?
[citation needed]
The funny part is that Google is beating MS in their own game. They are actually improving the MS browser so that users can properly and smoothly use Google products
And if your browser's so screwed up that you can't even use Google properly, you know you screwed up, and you know you screwed up bad.
Seriously, the only code monkeys that could produce a browser that doesn't work with Google would have to be actual monkeys.
Is this some sort of recent linguistic import to the IT field?
#include "top-flight"
Signatures.
No, I'm not talking about those little blurbs of text added to the end of your posts. I'm talking about when you have to agree to a contract or use a credit card or something. You need to be able to sign your name. If cursive writing is eliminated, what are we going to put on the line that's not marked "Print name"?
And if cursive is becoming less and less used, as TFS says, then that's all the more reason to learn the skill and keep it alive. When you pull out that form of writing, you mean business. You mean serious business.
What will we do if we can't sign our names on important documents?
Wait, did I mention contracts and credit cards? Okay, kill it in the US, but keep it around the rest of the world.
I'm wondering where you got your info (besides the incorrect summary, of course).
You got it. Now, are you quite finished wondering what other site could possibly have such incorrect information, or am I going to be subjected to this same question every time you respond to me?
Slashdot's the only news site I pay attention to. Of course I'm affected by the ridiculous amounts of bias /. has for and against different things and ideas. And, while I used to read the articles, I've gotten progressively lazier with it.
Actually, no, I do generally RTFA. I just happen not to have in this case, because I was lazy today from not having much sleep last night. I plan to sleep quite well tonight, wake up between 10:00-13:00 tomorrow, and maybe read something more interesting than the summary from this article.
tl;dr version - I'm so horribly misinformed because I hang out here with you guys.
Any other questions?