The only law that comes to mind is in the state of NY, where the law is basically broken and unenforcable, becouse it makes ALL live recording, even legitamate ones, illegal. The best pointer I can give you is the alt.music.bootlegs newsgroup FAQ (Well, part of it):
But, in the real world, like everything else in life, it gets complicated. The word "theory" seems to not to have any meaning in every day life. Many bands allow the taping of their shows. The most famous of bands to allow taping is the Greatful Dead. Other bands "look the other way" when it comes to bootlegs. However, most of these bands that allow taping distinguish between taping for personal use and trading, and taping to press onto CDs and sell them. In the most famous case, the Greatful Dead had a store busted for selling boot Dead CDs.
Bootlegging is not illegal. *SELLING* bootlegged music is illegal.
Now, many times, you are correct, in that the original recordings may have been made by bringing a recorder into a concert, however, MANY of these are not. They are studio outtakes. Radio shows. Jams, etc.
What it comes down to is, having and trading bootleg music is not illegal. I have no argument that taking legitimate music, ripping it, and trading it, is illegal. But trading bootleg stuff isn't.
One of the primary reasons that I USE NAPSTER is *FOR* the live recordings, and studio outtakes, etc... Stuff you *CANNOT BUY* in the store. This is also, by chance, one of the only *LEGITAMATE* uses of Napster.
If anything, this teqnique is simply going to hit the users who would ordinarily be *GOOD* users, and *NOT* the users that are using it to basically horde large amounts of songs they don't even OWN on CD..
Note that they are basically saying 'Use phrases like 'Live Rercording' and 'Outtakes from studio''. THESE ARE NOT ILLEGAL, and are generally encouraged. While you cannot take this and then use it commercially, you can, and many due, use it for personal enjoyment.
One of the primary reasons that I USE NAPSTER is *FOR* the live recordings, and studio outtakes, etc... Stuff you *CANNOT BUY* in the store. This is also, by chance, one of the only *LEGITAMATE* uses of Napster.
If anything, this teqnique is simply going to hit the users who would ordinarily be *GOOD* users, and *NOT* the users that are using it to basically horde large amounts of songs they don;t even OWN on CD..
Guys, this *ISN'T* a conspiracy. As configured, the 6.1 box reached some sort of bottleneck. THIS ISN'T FUD for crying out loud. Sure, tests don;t mean much, but it failed it.
Do you guys/gals know how *BAD* we as a cummunity look when every time we're beaten on a test, we cry FOUL??
There will end up being a reason as to why this happened, but for crying out loud guys..
Nothing will happen, becouse we (Us americans) will never know what's going on. If you can't prove it, then you simply can't do anything about it.
Heck, look at the governments stance on area 51. Technically, they continue to deny that there is even a base there, when it's just PLAIN as day there. All UFO jokes aside, it's an example of what will happen with Echelon. We'll never know, and hence, speculation will abound..
No, not at all. The phone companies don't give the police department full rein of their systems, and neither does an need to. It's rather simple to redirect all trafic going in and out of a dialup location to a 'black box', without requiring handing over a back door. It would be something that would need to be manually setup BY the ISP, which adds no more of a security risk then would already exist, aka, individuals with the power to do such a thing.
I'm curiouse what makes ANYONE think that suddenly the US government will make all sorts of information about Echelon, that will allow them to gain information regarding the functionality, type of data it expects, etc??
Let them inquire. It'll be denied. Nothing more to say, really.
'Our corperate masters'. How cute. Tell me, what country do these masters come from? Iran? Oh wait, I know, it MUST be China.
And creating demand where it does not exist? Where'd that come from? *NO* buisness 'creates' demand. Well, Ok, microsoft does, becouse they can. But how can a company create demand for a hamburger?? Subliminal messages I suppose?
I'll have you know, I work for a US company (As do many other Americans, I've been told. Damned those corperate slavemasters are good). When you talk of the corperate masters, you insult every single US citizen. Lemme get you in on a secret. *WE ARE THE CORPERATE MASTERS* you elequently refer to. Here, we don't refer to them as the 'corperate masters'. We call them Joe and Larry over there in the Marketing department. They're not coopting the sucess of the US people. They're using that success to grow markets. The *SAME WAY THEY DID HERE*. And if you buy it, they will come. And they're buying it..
Be carefull what you wish for, you just might get it. You want those antibiotics? Then hell yes you need the computer components. You gonna rely on someone else making it for the rest of your lives?? And as far as the nuclear waste, that's BS, and you know it. I can say I've NEVER heard of a contract to exchange antibiotics for nuclear waste..;-P
Now, take it further, and imagine that all of the things being advertised are *SELLING LIKE HOTCAKES* in these countries. They are pushing where it makes buisness sense to do so. Carefull what you wish for I say, you *JUST* might get it..
But why is that a bad thing? If they are dying, then perhaps they really DO need to die? I'm sure many the carpenter in days of old resented the fact that these new fangled machines could produce hundreds of chairs a day, while they could produce a mere one.
Things don't just die. They die for a reason. Places like McDonalds haven't killed the local Diner in the US. They haven't killed the Chinese restraunt on the corner. Heck, they haven't killed the ice cream stand on the other corner.
And as far as everone looking the same, it may have been bad english, but it was a generally racist statement.
And in international news, the McDonalds Air Force launched a counter attack against Cheese Farmers accross all of france today.
The UN is reported to have conveined an emergency meeting as to what to do with these dictators. Rumors of a counterattack have abounded, and it is thought that NATO will become involved possibly in force by tommorow..
Didn't you read? They're dictators. Didn't you get your marching orders down to the local McDonalds to try out the latest burger? We'll have to report you to the SS and have them knock some sense into you..
These companies aren't building locations for the giggles of it. There's *DEMAND*, and god forbid, these companies try to actually sell a product to people who are looking to buy.
If these foreign contries are that concerned about it, why, OH WHY, are they BUYING THE PRODUCTS? WHY are these companies making money?? Lemme tell you why..
Why in gods name would they come confiscate my fireworks? Perfectly legal here in NH. Just yesterday I went to www.epyro.net, ordered a bunch up, and went down to the store to pick 'em up..;-P It's not illegal everywhere, you know..
It could for this reason. If I give you something under the terms of a licence that is declared null and void, then you get to keep it. Period. I cannot 'take it back' becouse the licence was invalid. Now part of what I gave you was the source.
While this doesn't remove the actual rights from the author, it does invalidate some of them for that particular licence.
After reading the white papers, and all of the marketing materials, I've come to this conculsion..
Apperently, now that Microsoft has been judged a monopoly, they've decided this:
"Welp, they found us out. We might as well go whole hog now".
Everything in this Microsoft.NET platform, which they push as being 'The next generation of the Internet' is so based on Microsoft run service it isn't even funny. They name dropped every service they offer, from extending email off of 'Hotmail', to instant messaging based on MSIM.
In some ways, they're getting better, using open protocols such as SOAP, and using storage, etc, using XML. In other ways, the beast is getting worse..
Unfortionatly, regardless of what happens, MSFT is still worth it's stock price.
Actually, two baby bills is worth *MORE* money seperate then together. Think about it..
Now, they will be able to move their products into new territory. The app side can take over office apps on every machine on the face of the earth, regardless of OS.
The OS side will be able to move their system to even more platforms, as they are no longer stuck in deals with hardware makers for their apps to take advantage of specific hardware capabilities within their application..
It's a scary, scary world..
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Welp, I have a whole shelf full, and I can say I honestly enjoyed them. I'd say Riven more then Myst, but they where both well worth it..
Personally, I loved Myst, AND Riven. I only had two beefs with it myself..
1) To damned addicting. I played it for days and days untill I finished the damned thing. I was hell bent on not cheating, and darned it, I never did.. (Ok, so perhaps I consulted a web site trying to decipher the numbering system..)
2) Once I finished it, I quite literally *NEVER WANTED TO PLAY IT AGAIN*. It was done. completed..
Doing C first negates the entire point of the game, though. If I can simply 'Open the Hole' in the begining, well why in the heck play the game!??!!
There is also another fact. Millions of people disagree with you, in that Myst and Riven where pretty much all-time best sellers.
Don't like it? Don't buy it. Fairly simple. You made your statement, and perhaps they'll pay attention when they notice only 1,999,999 copies sold, instead of 2,000,000.
Nearly all of those Wall Street Types are earning alot more money then many of us here. I wouldn't call them stupid, that's for sure.
For instance, how much harder is it to retain an OS monopoly if you don't have a stranglehold on applications.
Dude, you're on crack. If you think that they will begin to lose money simply becouse they are broken up into small little monoploies instead of one big fat one, then you are severely mistaken. They will continue to make boatloads of money, no matter which way it goes. Heck, it may make them *MORE* money, becouse it could very well lead to MS Office *SQUASHING* any other alternatives under other platforms, if they end up with versions for these platforms...
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robots.txt should be considered the 'Posted, No Trespassing' sign, really.. ;-P I completely agree..
Help find it? Heck, it ate it. ;-P Ever wonder how it got the name 'Carnivore'? ;-P
But, in the real world, like everything else in life, it gets complicated. The word "theory" seems to not to have any meaning in every day life. Many bands allow the taping of their shows. The most famous of bands to allow taping is the Greatful Dead. Other bands "look the other way" when it comes to bootlegs. However, most of these bands that allow taping distinguish between taping for personal use and trading, and taping to press onto CDs and sell them. In the most famous case, the Greatful Dead had a store busted for selling boot Dead CDs.
Bootlegging is not illegal. *SELLING* bootlegged music is illegal.
Now, many times, you are correct, in that the original recordings may have been made by bringing a recorder into a concert, however, MANY of these are not. They are studio outtakes. Radio shows. Jams, etc.
What it comes down to is, having and trading bootleg music is not illegal. I have no argument that taking legitimate music, ripping it, and trading it, is illegal. But trading bootleg stuff isn't.
One of the primary reasons that I USE NAPSTER is *FOR* the live recordings, and studio outtakes, etc... Stuff you *CANNOT BUY* in the store. This is also, by chance, one of the only *LEGITAMATE* uses of Napster.
If anything, this teqnique is simply going to hit the users who would ordinarily be *GOOD* users, and *NOT* the users that are using it to basically horde large amounts of songs they don't even OWN on CD..
Note that they are basically saying 'Use phrases like 'Live Rercording' and 'Outtakes from studio''. THESE ARE NOT ILLEGAL, and are generally encouraged. While you cannot take this and then use it commercially, you can, and many due, use it for personal enjoyment.
One of the primary reasons that I USE NAPSTER is *FOR* the live recordings, and studio outtakes, etc... Stuff you *CANNOT BUY* in the store. This is also, by chance, one of the only *LEGITAMATE* uses of Napster.
If anything, this teqnique is simply going to hit the users who would ordinarily be *GOOD* users, and *NOT* the users that are using it to basically horde large amounts of songs they don;t even OWN on CD..
I trust the little itty tests that I conduct on my own, in load situations for my particular situation.
Guys, this *ISN'T* a conspiracy. As configured, the 6.1 box reached some sort of bottleneck. THIS ISN'T FUD for crying out loud. Sure, tests don;t mean much, but it failed it.
Do you guys/gals know how *BAD* we as a cummunity look when every time we're beaten on a test, we cry FOUL??
There will end up being a reason as to why this happened, but for crying out loud guys..
Nothing will happen, becouse we (Us americans) will never know what's going on. If you can't prove it, then you simply can't do anything about it.
Heck, look at the governments stance on area 51. Technically, they continue to deny that there is even a base there, when it's just PLAIN as day there. All UFO jokes aside, it's an example of what will happen with Echelon. We'll never know, and hence, speculation will abound..
No, not at all. The phone companies don't give the police department full rein of their systems, and neither does an need to. It's rather simple to redirect all trafic going in and out of a dialup location to a 'black box', without requiring handing over a back door. It would be something that would need to be manually setup BY the ISP, which adds no more of a security risk then would already exist, aka, individuals with the power to do such a thing.
I'm curiouse what makes ANYONE think that suddenly the US government will make all sorts of information about Echelon, that will allow them to gain information regarding the functionality, type of data it expects, etc??
Let them inquire. It'll be denied. Nothing more to say, really.
'Common guys, we KNOW you do it, fess up.'
'Nope, we don't. Never heard of such a thing.'
'But we KNOW!!'
'Nope, we don't. Never heard of such a thing.'
(continue untill france gets bored)
'Our corperate masters'. How cute. Tell me, what country do these masters come from? Iran? Oh wait, I know, it MUST be China.
;-P
And creating demand where it does not exist? Where'd that come from? *NO* buisness 'creates' demand. Well, Ok, microsoft does, becouse they can. But how can a company create demand for a hamburger?? Subliminal messages I suppose?
I'll have you know, I work for a US company (As do many other Americans, I've been told. Damned those corperate slavemasters are good). When you talk of the corperate masters, you insult every single US citizen. Lemme get you in on a secret. *WE ARE THE CORPERATE MASTERS* you elequently refer to. Here, we don't refer to them as the 'corperate masters'. We call them Joe and Larry over there in the Marketing department. They're not coopting the sucess of the US people. They're using that success to grow markets. The *SAME WAY THEY DID HERE*. And if you buy it, they will come. And they're buying it..
Be carefull what you wish for, you just might get it. You want those antibiotics? Then hell yes you need the computer components. You gonna rely on someone else making it for the rest of your lives?? And as far as the nuclear waste, that's BS, and you know it. I can say I've NEVER heard of a contract to exchange antibiotics for nuclear waste..
Now, take it further, and imagine that all of the things being advertised are *SELLING LIKE HOTCAKES* in these countries. They are pushing where it makes buisness sense to do so. Carefull what you wish for I say, you *JUST* might get it..
But why is that a bad thing? If they are dying, then perhaps they really DO need to die? I'm sure many the carpenter in days of old resented the fact that these new fangled machines could produce hundreds of chairs a day, while they could produce a mere one.
Things don't just die. They die for a reason. Places like McDonalds haven't killed the local Diner in the US. They haven't killed the Chinese restraunt on the corner. Heck, they haven't killed the ice cream stand on the other corner.
And as far as everone looking the same, it may have been bad english, but it was a generally racist statement.
And in international news, the McDonalds Air Force launched a counter attack against Cheese Farmers accross all of france today.
The UN is reported to have conveined an emergency meeting as to what to do with these dictators. Rumors of a counterattack have abounded, and it is thought that NATO will become involved possibly in force by tommorow..
Didn't you read? They're dictators. Didn't you get your marching orders down to the local McDonalds to try out the latest burger? We'll have to report you to the SS and have them knock some sense into you..
These companies aren't building locations for the giggles of it. There's *DEMAND*, and god forbid, these companies try to actually sell a product to people who are looking to buy.
If these foreign contries are that concerned about it, why, OH WHY, are they BUYING THE PRODUCTS? WHY are these companies making money?? Lemme tell you why..
Becouse this cheese farmer is a minority.
Why in gods name would they come confiscate my fireworks? Perfectly legal here in NH. Just yesterday I went to www.epyro.net, ordered a bunch up, and went down to the store to pick 'em up.. ;-P It's not illegal everywhere, you know..
It could for this reason. If I give you something under the terms of a licence that is declared null and void, then you get to keep it. Period. I cannot 'take it back' becouse the licence was invalid. Now part of what I gave you was the source.
While this doesn't remove the actual rights from the author, it does invalidate some of them for that particular licence.
Basically, who the hell knows what'll happen..
After reading the white papers, and all of the marketing materials, I've come to this conculsion..
Apperently, now that Microsoft has been judged a monopoly, they've decided this:
"Welp, they found us out. We might as well go whole hog now".
Everything in this Microsoft.NET platform, which they push as being 'The next generation of the Internet' is so based on Microsoft run service it isn't even funny. They name dropped every service they offer, from extending email off of 'Hotmail', to instant messaging based on MSIM.
In some ways, they're getting better, using open protocols such as SOAP, and using storage, etc, using XML. In other ways, the beast is getting worse..
Unfortionatly, regardless of what happens, MSFT is still worth it's stock price.
Actually, two baby bills is worth *MORE* money seperate then together. Think about it..
Now, they will be able to move their products into new territory. The app side can take over office apps on every machine on the face of the earth, regardless of OS.
The OS side will be able to move their system to even more platforms, as they are no longer stuck in deals with hardware makers for their apps to take advantage of specific hardware capabilities within their application..
It's a scary, scary world..
Welp, I have a whole shelf full, and I can say I honestly enjoyed them. I'd say Riven more then Myst, but they where both well worth it..
Personally, I loved Myst, AND Riven. I only had two beefs with it myself..
1) To damned addicting. I played it for days and days untill I finished the damned thing. I was hell bent on not cheating, and darned it, I never did.. (Ok, so perhaps I consulted a web site trying to decipher the numbering system..)
2) Once I finished it, I quite literally *NEVER WANTED TO PLAY IT AGAIN*. It was done. completed..
Doing C first negates the entire point of the game, though. If I can simply 'Open the Hole' in the begining, well why in the heck play the game!??!!
There is also another fact. Millions of people disagree with you, in that Myst and Riven where pretty much all-time best sellers.
Don't like it? Don't buy it. Fairly simple. You made your statement, and perhaps they'll pay attention when they notice only 1,999,999 copies sold, instead of 2,000,000.
Nearly all of those Wall Street Types are earning alot more money then many of us here. I wouldn't call them stupid, that's for sure.
For instance, how much harder is it to retain an OS monopoly if you don't have a stranglehold on applications.
Dude, you're on crack. If you think that they will begin to lose money simply becouse they are broken up into small little monoploies instead of one big fat one, then you are severely mistaken. They will continue to make boatloads of money, no matter which way it goes. Heck, it may make them *MORE* money, becouse it could very well lead to MS Office *SQUASHING* any other alternatives under other platforms, if they end up with versions for these platforms...