Hmmm, alright, so the Republicans are pretending that common sense is all you need, and the Democrats are pretending that you need years of schooling and study to be able to have an informed opinion?
They both seem anti-intellectual to me, but I see your point, if you define intellectual as simply being educated rather than actually having the tools to take advantage of the education. (I'm referring to critical thinking skills of course)
I guess maybe anti-rational might be a better way to categorize both together?
An extremely liberally biased documentarian and a Democratic politician who makes a movie containing "science" that any climatologist no matter what camp they are in is embarrassed by are not representative of the Democratic party, but an AM talk show host with an equally extreme Republican bias is representative of the Republican party?
Or... You could have a basic understanding of the scientific method and enough skill at critical thinking that you can tell what is being healthily discussed and what is suspect.
Kinda like choosing a good barber requires enough style smarts to be able to tell whether he is decent at what he does or not. I don't have to be awesome at cutting hair to be able to know when someone else is doing it wrong.
Good god, people might think for themselves instead of believing what the men in white lab coats tell them? Nothing good at all can come of this, all science is 100% solid and established fact.
First you say that this is happening because we have an unregulated free market system, then you explain how corporations are buying power and influence to change the laws in their favor.
THAT IS NOT A UNREGULATED MARKET. THAT IS A OVER-REGULATED MARKET.
A unregulated market does not have regulations that favor corporations over consumers.
There are people who would choose money over clean air any day of the week. All of China has done it for starters. The fact that you find it hard to imagine doesn't make his argument a straw-man.
No. The people in charge in china have chosen to trade money for clean air that other people are breathing. That's significantly different than what you said.
I am fascinated by the human species apparent drive to thwart evolution based on the ludicrous assumption that we somehow know a "better" way than what got us here.
I don't think you know what fascism is if you're suggesting that the Chinese government fits the label.
According to Wikipedia: Fascism is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism with a corporatist economic system... Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak.
Ronald Regan, he played the role of George "The Gipper" Gipp in the film "Knute Rockne, All American;" from it, he acquired the lifelong nickname "the Gipper."
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since they were both graphical window managers...
it's not really an in depth article after all ;-)
The answer is to engage in critical thinking no matter the source, and not to give too much weight to any authority or lack thereof.
This. Thank you.
Hmmm, alright, so the Republicans are pretending that common sense is all you need, and the Democrats are pretending that you need years of schooling and study to be able to have an informed opinion?
They both seem anti-intellectual to me, but I see your point, if you define intellectual as simply being educated rather than actually having the tools to take advantage of the education. (I'm referring to critical thinking skills of course)
I guess maybe anti-rational might be a better way to categorize both together?
An extremely liberally biased documentarian and a Democratic politician who makes a movie containing "science" that any climatologist no matter what camp they are in is embarrassed by are not representative of the Democratic party, but an AM talk show host with an equally extreme Republican bias is representative of the Republican party?
Please.
Mike, Can you delete any emails you may have with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. He's not in at the moment - minor family crisis.
Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same?
Yeah... that's probably just a typo right?
look for yourself: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_emails%2C_data%2C_models%2C_1996-2009
Michael Moor and Al Gore are both certainly not Republicans and if you think they are intellectual then good luck with that.
The two parties certainly aren't any different when it comes to "fostering the populist anti-intellectual movement."
Or... You could have a basic understanding of the scientific method and enough skill at critical thinking that you can tell what is being healthily discussed and what is suspect.
Kinda like choosing a good barber requires enough style smarts to be able to tell whether he is decent at what he does or not.
I don't have to be awesome at cutting hair to be able to know when someone else is doing it wrong.
I agree with you're basic premise, however science has never been the idealized discipline you envision.
Scientists have been biased, petty, and fast and loose with their data for as long as there have been more than one scientist.
Just look at Leibniz and Newton or Pasteur and Béchamp for examples from the dawn of "modern" science.
Bullshit.
I am perfectly qualified, and so is anyone else who is able to think critically, admittedly a shrinking demographic.
Good god, people might think for themselves instead of believing what the men in white lab coats tell them?
Nothing good at all can come of this, all science is 100% solid and established fact.
You fool!!! The last thing we need during the Zombie Apocalypse is armed bears!
You are making no sense.
First you say that this is happening because we have an unregulated free market system, then you explain how corporations are buying power and influence to change the laws in their favor.
THAT IS NOT A UNREGULATED MARKET. THAT IS A OVER-REGULATED MARKET.
A unregulated market does not have regulations that favor corporations over consumers.
I moderate excessively too!
BUT WE VOTED FOR CHANGE!!!!
This made me smile. thanks :-)
There are people who would choose money over clean air any day of the week. All of China has done it for starters. The fact that you find it hard to imagine doesn't make his argument a straw-man.
No. The people in charge in china have chosen to trade money for clean air that other people are breathing. That's significantly different than what you said.
again, WAT?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_on_the_PlayStation_3
Yeah, I understand that some people can handle repeated punches to the groin, but we're talking about people with balls here. ;-)
I'd mod you up if I could.
I am fascinated by the human species apparent drive to thwart evolution based on the ludicrous assumption that we somehow know a "better" way than what got us here.
wat?
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
Occasionally the two coincide.
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I don't think you know what fascism is if you're suggesting that the Chinese government fits the label.
According to Wikipedia:
Fascism is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism with a corporatist economic system... Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak.
Well?
Ugh, spelling fail :-\
Ronald Regan, he played the role of George "The Gipper" Gipp in the film "Knute Rockne, All American;" from it, he acquired the lifelong nickname "the Gipper."
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