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Man "Beats" World of Warcraft
Precision pointed out that a Taiwanese man has been named the first ever person to successfully beat World of Warcraft, getting all 986 achievements, completing 5906 quests and /hugging 11 players. Insert joke here. There are many.
How can you kill that which has no life??
Build a man a fire, he's warm for one night. Set him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Something I can tell my kid that won't get a "meh". Cool.
The cost of that cleanup, of course, will be borne by taxpayers, not industry.
Wonder how many "people" this man really is
If he doesn't have all the best gear then I wouldn't say he has beaten it yet. But that is quite an achievement what he has done.
Doctors do Massage in Longview WA now, who knew?
/.er?
How many hours did this take?
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Eric Cartman approves!
In just about any sport outside of bowling, referees are prone to make BS calls. Just because this guy got 100% of the achievements, he did it via a glitch in the program. Technically he may have beaten the game, but spiritually he fails.
Socially too, I bet.
> Insert joke here.
- Kills 386,240,502 hogs /shout NE1 have gold 2 giv? in Stormreach 32,768 times
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- Turtled AV frozen middle area 217,000 times (!)
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Man's level and experience in MMORPG is reversely proportional to level and experience in real life.
Valkyrie is about to die! Wizard needs food -- badly!
Is the 987th achievement and 5907th quest the same?
AKA shotgun mouthwash?
To everyone who's about to make a "get a life" joke, may I remind you, you're about to post on a geek news website. While the level of dedications required to achieve this probably does mean this guy doesn't get out often, I'd wager that many of us here aren't all that different and could probably use lives of our own...
I wouldn't have personally, I'm afraid I'd get a fatal case of patheticness
I stopped playing.
Can I just be the first to say..."WoW!"
I'm always positive; it's my nature.
Liiiiiitttttllllllleeeee Grrrrreeeeeeyyyyyyy!!! just doesn't have the same ring as LEERROOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEENNNKKKIIIINNNSSS!!!!
"Wow, I've beaten WOW !!! Ok sweet! Now what?"
What does homosexuality have to do with it?
... and yet he's probably still on 0 RL hugs and 0 RL girlfriends.
and nothing of value was gained.
There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
Hey that's my macro.
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Alright, i beat WoW, now what do i do with my life?
That sounds easy. Or do you have to solve 100 quests before being able to hug one player?
I know someone that finished reading the Internet.
We've now identified the first known, and clearly single, Mt. Dew-crazed, Oreo-gluttonous Taiwanese man who still lives in his parent's basement. Weather at 6.
He ain't no computer hackah!
Maybe gay people are invincible? That could explain why people are afraid of them.
He will look back and think it was the greatest day of his life. Or until the next MMORPG with a insane number of achievements comes out. Then beating that will be the greatest day of his life and so on and so forth ad nauseum.
Cannot find REALITY.SYS. Universe halted.
Nurf droods, NURF EM!
If he was married to Tiger's wife, she'd politely give him the golf club and say, "enjoy yourself at the course, don't hurry back".
Table-ized A.I.
DEH, everything... you never played WoW eh ?
Total Deaths: 8567
I suppose therin lies the difference between MMO and MUDS or a real RPG. You'd never reach that many deaths in most MUDS or RPGs: your character would wind up perma-dead.
I quit WoW several months ago, but I know for a fact there are achievements for "Server First Max Skill XXX" where XXX is some tradeskill. I contend that is impossible for one player to become the server's first max skill leatherworker, blacksmith, alchemist, enchanter, and engineer (plus there's a few more) so there is no possible way he could attain "ALL" the achievements.
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Heh - no. I prefer having a "real" life.
What is he going to do now? Must have been his life, quite the void now.
Patch 3.3 comes out Tuesday.
I don't know what kind of crack I was on, but I suspect it was decaf.
Time, AND money. I don't understand the appeal of doing so many things over and over again. And now that he's beaten it, what is he to do? My guess, start over.
The only way to beat World of Warcraft is to quit. Forever.
I'm not sure you can infer homosexuality anymore from the term "gay". Much like it used to prevalently mean happy, I think its meaning has changed somewhat again and has come closer to the term "queer"... both could be taken as a homosexual reference, but could also just mean strange, unusual, or odd from the conventional viewpoint (queer:dictionary.com)
I.e. Out of the box, You can't tether your iPhone to your laptop for internet access... that's gay! (may also mean dumb or absurd as well)
Who says anything about homosexuality? S/he obviously said WoW is very happy in many ways!
Could this guy be more then one guy sharing a single account? One in the eastern timezone and the other in west. While one is sleeping the other plays..
The more appropriate question is "How do you win, but still lose?"
You just Lost The Game
"How do you kill that which has no life?"
South Park!
This was news last week (11/27). The link below is the original link.... "There isn't a lot of official news to report this week because of Thanksgiving but hopefully I should have enough things to keep you entertained for a while. Also, 3.3 menu should appear on the site tomorrow, you can stop mailing me about that. Player "beats the game" on Taiwanese Servers There was a few posts about it on the forums during the past week and I'll assume it's worth a front page news. On taiwanese servers, from the guild (TW-Wrathbringer) succesfully completed all achievements in the game and is the first player to reach 986/986 achievements completed on the armory. Technically he's still missing BB King (added with Patch 3.2.2) and his World Events achievements are down to 138/139 because of that, luckily a bug with an old PvP achievement gives him 165/164, that's how he got 986/986. The achievement count obviously doesn't take Feats of Strength into account because it's technically impossible to get all of them. (Well I guess you could race change to compete for the first level 80 undead/tauren/troll/orc/blood elf on the same character but I don't think you'll get all of them)" http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/player-gets-all-achievements-shadowed-unit-frames/
Sure, but can he beat the world of breakfast sausages?
"I zero-index my hamsters" - Willtor (147206)
One may hope that Nyhm will make a video about the guy. :D
(Don't know who Nyhm is? Have a sample:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KEK3wfn2hw Not the best quality but it's my favorite of all his machinimas.)
According to http://tw.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Wrathbringer&cn=%E5%B0%8F%E7%81%B0&gn=%E7%A5%9E%E6%A8%A3 , he still has one world event to attend. He also has not reached the top of the ladder for 2v2, 3v3, or 5v5 matches.
However, he did finish 165 out of 164 player versus player matches. I am not sure how that works.
Also, why are we presuming this person is a he?
Taiwanese man inspires Christians around the world with his story of how he committed his life to abstinence.
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." ~Friedrich Nietzsche
What DOES homosexuality have to do with it?
It sounds all sorts of happy to me!
I once beat world of woodcraft. Twice.
I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar.
He means he is happy. He has achieved something therefore he is happy. Right...?
Ya know, MMOs have life cycles. They get born, they age, they eventually die. Eventually, the company running it will pull the plug. Be it because it's not profitable anymore to keep it running, or be it because they want to "convince" their players to come to their new MMO.
Yes, there's EQ and UO (and Meridian for you Great Old Ones), but face it, they're little more than hollow shadows of what they used to be.
Every MMO in its history met a terminal expansion. No, I don't mean the last one. I mean the one that kills the game. That convinces the players (at least those that still have a life) that it's just not worth it. DAoC managed it with Trials of Atlantis, SWG had its Jump to Lightspeed (aside of other troubles), eventually every maker of MMOs fucks something up and people leave.
I fear the day this happens in WoW. It will happen. Certainly not for the next year or two, and I'm quite sure that two or three expansions will still be in the fold for WoW. But eventually, the game mechanics will break apart (they're creaking already when you look at the wiring under the board).
And I quietly wonder what will happen to the WoW addicts that suddenly lose the last bits of meaning their life has...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I could not imagine dedicating that much time into a game and then having any reason to wake up the next morning after you beat it.
Bryan
When in the last 5 year has gay meant homosexual?
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Guess what, mr. winner dude, there's an expansion coming! Bwahahahahah, you haven't won. The only way to win is for your bank account to be empty and Blizzard to be high diving into a pile of gold coins!!!
Besides, he's probably a bot
Congraturation! You Sucsess!
Interesting that in your rant to show how much of a non-loser you are, you list playing on Facebook. Think you kinda shot yourself in the foot there buddy.
Losers come oi all forms, and defending on a loser site that you are not a loser... well... welcome brother.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
nuff said
whose to say its one person and not 6 or 8 12 year olds paid 20 cents an hour to work in shifts around the clock. all in a mad devious plan to be the first to win
Our big winner will receive a lifetime supply of turtlewax, flight and hotel accomodations to lovely downtown Burbank and the grand prize; a DATE WITH ELVIS!
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
All the time... new meanings doesn't imply a complete loss of the old ones. Obviously someone asking the question about homosexuality implies the word clearly still means that.
Gay has been the default term for homosexual for at least 20 years and that hasn't changed in the last 5 just because douchebags trying to insult people have used the term for a homosexual as an insult.
"Growing old is inevitable; growing up is optional."
Can you imagine all the number of chicks that you can get with this achievement? mmm let me think zero Are you sure the Taiwanese is not a robot? I know that there are a lot of robots that look like humans in Taiwan.
The first time I read this I thought 'Now my brother can finally get a job and get off WoW servers' ... then I re-read it and noticed they said the guy was taiwanese.
Before that, gay meant happy and care-free. And that hasn't changed in the last 20 years just because douchebags try to use it as a term for a homosexual.
I'm sure that's not all he "beats"
Wife "Beats" Man
The hot chicks must be crawling all over this guy! Why didn't I think of doing every possible time waster in WoW (at least until the next update) as a way to meet girls? Hey Blizzard -- time to release another expansion pack!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
What does homosexuality have to do with it?
Nothing at all. But when Taco said "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." it had nothing to do with being crippled. Oh wait...
Set your phasers on "funky"!
I put on my Druid robe and hat...
is not to play.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
No, they can't be, I see them all the time.
They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
Every WoW player knows this. Screen-shot or it didn't happen. How many hours played? What's his gold amount collected? How many pets did he get? How many mounts? How many times did he die? Wouldn't getting every achievement mean he'd have had to change professions a few times over?
Life takes interesting turns, but the most interest is when you're off the beaten path.
Now that he's finished the game, he'll have to start playing World of Reality -- and start meeting and interacting with some actual people. There are far more quests and achievements out here to earn.
invincible != invisible
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
I'm quite sure that WoW isn't the only thing he's beating regularly.
What value is gained for reading a book, watching a movie, listening to music or mounting a pretty painting on the wall? It's all entertainment. If he enjoyed doing it, that's all the gain *he* needs. Entertainment is an end unto itself. Fun and beauty ARE utility.
i'd rather do the other things i listed above than play WoW, but in the end, it's all fun and games.
Utilizing the synergization of benchmark e-solutions to pre-workaround action items!
It's sort of pathetic what passes for a lesbian love scene post title these days. What ever happened to Natalie, petrified, hot grits etc... ?
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
Me too. (by "real life", you mean posting on Slashdot, right?)
Not speaking of the evolution of the term 'douchebag'
"When all you have is a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail."
I heard that if you kill a warlock with a resto druid (kill, not survive forever), the credits start rolling.
With regards to a different multiplayer online game:
I have an attention span of several months for any particular game, but this online game I'm talking about is going way beyond even that.
I can easily switch from, say, Civilization II to Starcraft after a few months, once the first game has worn thin. (I often find myself coming back to a particular game after I switched to something else for awhile) It's harder to disengage from an intricate online environment.
Just walking out, perhaps with middle fingers flying, sucks after all the time you've spent there.
And even if your teammates aren't strict assholes about activity "requirements", you still don't want to disappear on them
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
have you ever kissed a girl?
This question came up in something else on here a couple of days ago. I think it's a worthwhile candidate for meme-ification.
So, I hereby propose the Anti-Godwin's law: In any online conversation, if someone posts a long, excrutiatingly detailed diatribe about an esoteric detail of no interest to the parties, and minimallly relevant to the topic, the first party to respond with "Have you ever kissed a girl?" instantly wins the argument, and the topic is closed.
Exception: if many others disagree regarding relevance, the citing party loses by popular acclamation. :)
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You know, I kind of figure I got WoW beat myself. I'm in a top 100 US guild and we play...two nights a week. We go in, win, and leave. If you can't make a certain night because of some sort of pressing engagement, or you just have too much work to do that night, you don't get kicked (just please let us know).
No destructive, or addictive, behavior here.
IF you read TFA correctly, one of his achievement is recorded due to a glitch.
New Economic Perspectives
Fine, he beat the game. Now I wanna see a speed run.
mmmm...forbidden donut
It's a money issue for me. I never played it, but I supply the infrastructure. I'll never win but the kid's pretty happy with the single HD 4850 he's got now.
I have the kid's old N64 and the Pod Racer cartridge. It's pretty robust, and possibly the only game I'll ever need. Besides planting my trees and perfecting my pizza recipe, I haven't got any noble aspirations myself. Balance or single-mindedness is a personal choice, I bow before Little Gray's achievement.
The cost of that cleanup, of course, will be borne by taxpayers, not industry.
Of course, the rumor mill is that Icecrown Citadel will come out next week, thus effectively "unwinning" the game for this man.
I'm going to go out and design a MMORPT named "Meat", just so I can someday read the slashdot headline Man Beats Meat!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Asians are still better at video games than Americans.
He must be a devil with the ladies!
For this, he deserves a guest spot on The Guild. If he can spin this into a chance to meet Felicia Day in person, then he can be a winner, not just someone famous for having no life.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Absolutely nothing - unless you are so politically correct and uptight that you don't realize there are multiple definitions for that word, including slang ones, that do not mean homosexual.
Also, you asking that question was pretty gay.
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I think a better title for this article would be "World of Warcraft Beats Man".
"Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
I beat World of Warcraft when I cancelled my WoW account.
You have won the game. Delete your character now? (Y/n)
Woooosh!
He hasn't been a member of the Care Bear guild on Mok'Nathal.
That achievement is rarely found, and you'd think someone who /hug his enemies in combat and /love all the furry creatures would have tried for that one.
(Yes, I'm Kehrbehr)
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I thought you only won WoW if you beat the Lich King in nothing but a loin cloth and an off-hand fish.
Who'd have thunk it?
The Digital Sorceress
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Like American Auto, it's too big to fail. Very few MMOs to date have folded. AC2 and a few smaller ones but EQ is still strolling along. WoW, like EQ isn't a game, it is a setting, a mythology if you would.
WoW 1.0 may some day go offline but WoW 2.0 will be there. Nothing is preventing Verant from taking EQ1, rebuilding the game engine from the ground up and relaunching Everquest to a new generation. That is why certain toys are only advertised heavily every 21-25 years. Introduce it to a new generation. A 'reboot' if you would.
EQ is getting ready for a reboot I think, not a sequel, a reboot. Same for UO.
I consider MMOs not a new gaming addiction but mearly the 21st century version of fraternal societies. Rather then heading out for lodge night, people head out and raid. MMOs have simply filled the social gap that freemasons, knight of columbus, rotary club, etc. filled for 1950s. In short people 'hang out' in MMOs.
-=[ Who Is John Galt? ]=-
I'm sorry, guy, but you're not my friend, buddy.
Gay hasn't meant homosexual for at least a decade.
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That's just what I do to pass the time between working, playing with my kids, traveling, drinking, flying airplanes, hosting dinner parties, etc.
Posting occasionally on /. doesn't HAVE to be an indicator of no life. It just usually does.
Well, I think you're repeating yourself here, I'd say most people in the past, and frankly, probably even a majority of people today consider homosexuality to be "strange, unusual, or odd from the conventional", hence using the term 'gay' to not only mean homosexual, but, also as a bit of a derogatory term to describe something, meaning it to be strange, odd or bad.
I'd dare say the work 'queer' has double meanings for much of the same reasons.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Sorry, but nobody had made that wisecrack yet. It is obligatory.
I recommend a south park episode called: Make Love, Not Warcraft.
Well, there is EQ2. I don't know if it can be called a "fail", but it was anything but the huge success it should have been according to the logic you present here. EQ was a different generation of MMOs, and, bluntly, I think its success is owed largely to the fact that it was the first (well, the first that got big enough to attract more than a handful followers). EQ was hard and unforgiving. I doubt that it would attract too many people today.
When you look at EQ through the eyes of someone who has been playing WoW, you'd wonder why you could even possible consider playing it. It's confusing and difficult for someone who is used to a game like WoW where you get used to being led through pretty much any obstacle you might face. It's hard and unforgiving and you might lose your gear. You're highly dependent on the aid of others and you better have a good guild that doesn't mind staging a rescue party for your gear. People used to WoW would probably shake their head and wonder how you could possibly enjoy that.
Maybe some day someone will come along and present us a new kind of MMO where we will be looking at WoW and wonder how we could stomach the time sinks and tedium, the boring repetitiveness, etc.
So I doubt that a relaunch is the key to success. The formula does not work out anymore, it will not attract any players away from their current game.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Great. I bet he will play again and try to break his own record.
Gay hasn't meant homosexual for at least a decade."
Wow, where do you live where this isn't true?
I've always heard the word gay used as a direct synonym for homosexual (usually male and lesbian for females).
Heck, you hear it all the time on the news and read about it in major publications...the "Gay Agenda" this...etc. Isn't there a group for homosexuals specifically with the words Gay and Lesbian in their name/acronym?
Heck, I'd say it is the MOST common term I've heard used for homo men.
Now, the one that got me...I found out a short while back, that the Brits refer to cigarettes as "fags". I'd always knows a fag to me a gay male. I always wondered if England had a higher percentage of gay people because I was always reading about them sucking or smoking 'fags'...which gave me an impression there was much more of this going on in the open over there than here in the US.
I remember reading about people complaining about too many people smoking fags in the pubs over there, and I thought "YIKES", you have to go to 'special' bars over here for that....then I found out about the cigarette meaning...whew.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
People use the word "gay" now to mean "stupid/dumb/lame/idiotic", on just about anything that happens that they don't like. It has morphed from the original meaning of happy, to the newer meaning of homosexual, to the pejorative term used generally on heterosexual males, to it's current form. All of those meanings still apply, context is everything. The word is going to eventually subsume all possible meanings and become the one word to rule all others.
What few homosexual men I know, refer to themselves as "gay", so I don't know why it's necessarily assumed that its always pejorative, although certainly it moved from it's first meaning to the second based upon a stereotype of homosexuals as being Richard Simmons-like. While our understanding of homosexuality has changed, the word stuck around and just doesn't seem very offensive in the proper environment.
I think you can turn any word into an insult if you use it in that context. "The filthy MARBLES are ruining our great nation, death to MARBLES !" "Dammit, MS released another broken operating system, that's so fucking MARBLE !"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw8gE3lnpLQ
Aside from being mildly amused that it's even possible to beat WoW, I am shocked - truly - that the person to "beat" the game first was not from Korea.
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When in the last 5 year has gay meant homosexual?
Here in the US "gay" has been a derogatory term for at least 25 years. Saying something is "gay" puts a negative connotation on the subject. For example, in elementary school we would constantly call the nerds and the wimps gays, gayhomos, or gayfags. We reserved "faggot" for negative connotation of actual gays, er homosexuals.
I suggest you teach your children to do the same and make fun of the other little nerds and wimps and faggots. God bless 'merica?
"Be prepared, son. That's my motto. Be prepared." --Joe Hallenbeck
I got a 15 day trail disc from another PC game. Reminded me of that old drug dealer adage where they give you the first gram free lol.
I see a lot of people posting here on how this gentlemen has no life. My dad spent 3 years building a tiny wooden ship which is about 2 feet long. He's also got a lot of money and works during the day. So please, coming onto this forum and posting about WoW no lifers is soooooo 2004. Please, get with the times and grow up already.....
Ironically, the famous and brave Chuck Norris always posts as an Anonymous Coward.
This is because he wanted his UID to be his strength expressed as a percentage, but unfortunately, slashdot doesn't support UIDs in the billions.
I'm not your buddy, pal.
I don't recall ever hearing when someone 'beat' Everquest or other MMORPGs. Is there anything different about WoW, did those other stories happen years ago and I don' recall them, or is it just a SND (slow news day?
Perhaps because the piece of software used to enter the raw data did not throw up flags when the raw data did not match reality?
The people they polled didn't have a clue of their congressional district, so gave some random number. The web designer simply took data from the database and displayed it. The data entry people didn't have knowledge or instruction to chuck bogus data either.
That only leaves the software used to enter data as a gatekeeper. And if someone specifies a valid district that is NOT the one they actually live in, you still can't tell.
That poll would have been better served by using the 5-digit zip code. (The 9-digit one would raise even more privacy concerns than the 5-digit one does.)
While this person must have spent a great many hours accomplishing this goal, it may be a little unfair for us to infer that he has little to no social skills or "life"...
He needs a guild or a bunch of "friends" behind him to accomplish a great many of these achievements. Even if he is in a huge guild that is defeating the most difficult end-game content, at some point there are going to be achievements that others are going to set out to do specifically and entirely for him (and maybe some others that luckily get to tag along)... The amount of achievements in this category is probably about 100-150 whereas the others are either able to be done solo or will just happen in any decent group.
So, he befriended his guild or his group of online friends, with or without their knowledge, to help him get to this end-goal.
We can even go further into specifics and say that the Quests completion may be more of an accomplishment than the Achievements completion. It is very easy to do about 3500-4000 of the quests in the game without any help, but beyond that there are chains that need help for sure. These hurdle quests don't make up the next 2000, probably only 100 or 200, but he still needs a group that he can call on whenever he hits that wall. Also remember those people may have already done the quest in some cases and are getting absolutely nothing out of it. In the case of achievements, at least there are a bunch of people (5-25) that are going to get that achievement credit if they haven't already.
Actually, I think this guy may have more social skills than most...
(revs his motorcycle)
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Many people have beaten WOW several times since it was released. As soon as a new content patch comes out, he'll no longer have beaten the game.
Lets go kill Onyxia! -> done -> MC Released.
Lets go kill Ragnaros! -> done -> BWL released.
Lets go beat BWL! -> done -> AQ released.
Lets go beat AQ! -> done -> Naxx released.
This is nothing new, and not really an accomplishment at all.
What's up with the picture in the article? Orcs are not equal!
People who are so narcissistic that they can't imagine a universe without themselves as the center, and those cowards who cannot face their own death, invent religions out of whole cloth to 'explain' why they are so great and to give themselves comfort. These concepts are divisive and yet there is no taboo against 'tards who think they'll live forever with their magical sky daddy.
I think the 'existence of taboos as evidence of wrongness' idea is wrong.
Blar.
I believe that is the title of the article in Pravda.
"Little Gray" receives award from Blizzard Tom Chilton
http://images.gamebase.com.tw/gb_img/8/000/499/499958.jpg
I beat real life once but I rerolled as a normal computer nerd. Now I just lay low.
Honestly, he is far from beating the game looking at his stats on TBC and Classic. Beating the game at 80 (doing SWP and all of that overpowered, overgeared and massively nerfed) does not convince me. I would cheer if he had done the things on the right time, not now, and this last expantion, to be honest, its a "milk the cow" expantion. WoW does no longer require skill, it's just massive grinding and made for retards. Blizzard placed WoW as a milking cow, and it's share on the market is endangering even Blizzard's launch of new products. WoW will die as people get damn bored of the usual grinding and there's no longer hardcore raiders, every single 12 year oldie can get nearly everything, not to mention bots and such. Actually WoW is decaying.
if you click on the 986 achievements link you'll see that he got 165/164 player vs player and was 1 short in the world events category. I think he should have to finish the last world event to say that he beat it. then he would have 987/986 achievements and would be truely the man with no life.
Whats one more achievement right?
Years ago my life used to be a mess. I started playing EVE-Online. Played for years and, during that period, my life got messier. I just got transported to the MMOG world for good. Used to play 16 to 18 hours a day at peak. But I don't regret it. It was not the root cause of my depression, but something else. In fact, I've made some really nice friends I talk to even years after that. In fact, the game, the people involved, and lots of other game related factors made me feel "useful" again. I mean, It is just a game, but those accomplishments got to the point where I asked myself: "if I'm able to accomplish things in a game, and have a social life inside an UI, why can't I have this IRL ?" Well, now I have it. Now I can say for sure that EVE helped me a lot. I have an active account (in fact, 2) and I simply don't have the time to play anymore, of course, due to real life. But tbh, I would like to have the time to play again somehow.
This I can agree with - not so much for disappearing from your team (which is a legitimate problem in and of itself), but also from an investment standpoint. My WoW characters have a TON of time and energy invested. I know the classes, I know the spells, I have good gear, and I've invested a lot of time in leveling them. Just going to another MMORPG feels like I'm ditching all that effort to start over somewhere else. I haven't even played WoW lately but the only other games I've been able to bring myself to play have been single player games where progression over a long term doesn't matter. Starting another MMORPG would feel like I'm splitting my resources.
"People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
I always forget how hard some of those acchievemnts are. One I saw after clicking a while said: "100,000 honerable kills". 100k! That is a shitton of clicking!
Was it Leroy Jenkins?
I think the 'existence of taboos as evidence of wrongness' idea is wrong
Ugg, here's just a few(not that I have anything against homosexuals), eating raw pork and incest.
I laughed at the weak who considered themselves good because they lacked claws.
That's a jolly gay response. It makes me feel gay, thanks :)
Depends on what they meant by /hugging...
Oh, BELGIUM!
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FWIW, Insane in the Membrane, which grants the title of "the Insane" requires:
Our friend here is only Friendly with Shen'dralar, and is hated by all the Steamwheedle Cartel factions (Booty Bay, Rachet, Everlook and Gadgetzan). Given that Bloodsail and Steamwheedle oppose each other, he probably sacked the latter to build up the former, meaning he's after this too. He'll then have to get back in the good graces of Steamwheedle without doing any of the stuff that makes the Bloodsails angry, which means doing stuff in Ferelas, probably Dire Maul Key runs, which coincides with building Shen'dralar faction rep, so that's probably in his plans. Lastly he's only friendly with Ravenholdt, which is understandable since its mostly a rogue-only faction. In order to work this rep (and he's started somewhat already) he'll need to either get a rogue to farm the items for him and hand them to him or use a rogue alt. Either way sounds like even more mindless than what has gone already.
"Waste not one watt!" - CZ
He can celebrate for now but he'll surely have much much more to do once Cataclysm comes out.
He has yet to attain the "Insane" title
Hummm, Whooooosh?
Does anyone know how much Blizzard pulls in from WoW a year? What are the subscription numbers like now? I know you can't do simple calculations since other countries apparently charge a lot less per month.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Get one yourself
Cos this sort of comment only ever translates into one thing: "Get a life that is worthless in the same way as mine"
And what harm has he done anyone? Does he beat the crap out of people because they're wearing a different colour football shirt? Does he hang about with his friends on street corners and cause trouble?
No
He made a choice, and done pretty damn well. It's not like he's tried to do something and fail at doing it.
Sure you could argue it's only a game. So is chess. And tennis. And soccer. And football. And note that there's been no incident of WoW hooliganism ever (compare to football in the UK).
Sure he doesn't have millions in cash or a supermodel girlfriend. Neither do any of the people accusing this guy of having no life, while watching reality TV and soap operas (like I said, their only complaint is that his life isn't hollow in the same way as theirs).
If you don't like what he's done, then sod off cos it's done nobody any harm and no one asked for your approval.
If it harmed him in any way, he chose to do this to himself in the same way as someone going out on the town every Weekend with their friends harms their liver by drinking too much alcohol. And no one's accusing them of having no life, even if they and their 'friends' need booze to enjoy themselves (why? don't they like each other sober?).
It's not the people who harm no-one and concentrate on the one thing that shit all over this world.
Taboo != "bad idea"
Example: In some families, it is taboo to discuss sex. Why? There is no logical reason for this, it is only because social custom dictates that one not talk about their sexuality openly and this often leads people to having a negative emotional response to even thinking about that.
In both of your examples, there are clear and well-known reasons not to engage in either eating raw pork or incest.
When viewed from the "taboo as social custom" standpoint, I'm inclined to agree with FatSean. If the only reason you have for supporting a position is "that's the way it's always been done," then it's probably not the right position. At the very least, you're going to be hard pressed to show "tradition" as hard, logical evidence.
In the distance, a large building: R. Cratchitt, Ltd. A voice says "God bless us, every one."
Back in the bad old Bronze Age, maybe they had merit.
Today with refrigeration? I eat raw sushi all the time. Incest has also been identified as 'not that bad'. The more we learn, the less these simplistic rules apply.
Taboos are just the antiquated ideas that helped an ancient culture get by...they become increasingly irrelevant in our modern science-based society if you ask me.
Blar.
Here's some more things that are or were taboo:
- Eating cats, dogs or horses
- Working on Sunday
- Burping around other people
- Marrying someone of another race
- Not cutting off parts of your genitals
- Women showing their faces/hair/ankles
If any of those things weren't taboo, the world would be a terrible place.
The trick is getting anyone else to use it. If you can get that, you can make up all sorts of words/meanings. For good examples, look at how language has changed in the past 10 years just in rap and ebonics.
Although, I do like the idea of referring to someone as a marble, sounds very condescending.
"Holy shit... it's all over... hmmm... ... ... i'll beat it with a tank!"
That's how you'll know it's happening. So I wouldn't worry about being too upset.
Build a man a fire, he's warm for one night. Set him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Yeah, I mostly just post on /. in between performing open heart surgery while negotiating peace in the Middle East, and standing in as a Supreme Court Justice while composing symphonies, too.
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
By quitting and getting a life... ... well trying to get a life at least
[The Universe] has gone offline.
This game is round-based, an MMO but not an RPG; I've made a commitment to not play the next round, although I've made a similar committment to see this round through to its end. The round seems to be taking too damn long to end, though.
I'm a major player on what looks like will be the winning team; harassment (though serious) by the underdogs, as well as the admins' opinion of the victory condition, is dragging this out.
(Ironically, I'm still playing, but thanks to the uncertain round end, I didn't pay for as much premium-account time as I could have)
I've tried playing multiple such MMOs at once, and yes, it ain't pretty. I did switch to the current one because I figured its gameplay had more depth and nuance than the others.
I referenced Civ II and Starcraft [campaign and occassional AI] as a couple of my favorite non-multiplayer games. (Age of Empires, Sim City, and various others could join the list). While I do get caught up on several-hour sessions of those, they don't carry the multiplayer baggage, and they aren't running when I'm AFK.
I play one game of that type for several weeks, maybe months, at a time, but I can easily drop it and grab another CD-ROM when I feel like it.
Several months' patience seems necessary for these MMO rounds, and sometimes the rounds runneth over.
I do make use of Magic Workstation (free & closed-source, used to play TCGs online against real opponents) as well - sure that's multiplayer, but it's only several minutes to a couple hours at a time, the matches are separate from each other, and I pick it up exactly when I feel like it. Multiplayer like that (which includes things like Battle.net) only carries the minor annoyances of random interruptions during a 'session'.
Oh yeah, there's also an issue of serious stuff (namely, university, and to a lesser extent my Internet business), as well as the random personal projects (organizing my music collection, whatever).
Okay, okay, y'all want me to name names of the MMOs?
Oh, I'm not bitter really, I've just figured I've had enough of a good thing, and I know why.
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
"that girl who has given head to over a dozen different guys by the time she was 15"
she was probably molested or something and never got counseling. if you think that is similar to WoW addiction... uhm... you got issues.
Magic Workstation (free & closed-source...)
In terms of the vocabulary, I generally like breaking down the "Beer" and "Speech" components.
I am typing this with the normal textbox in Mozila Firefox (free & open-source), rather than Microsoft Word (nonfree & closed-source). :P
Speaking of heated vocabulary debates, I'm off to watch some football. :P
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
Simply put, do what YOU love, fuck the rest of the world. Most people are idiots anyways.
No.
Do what will maximize your happiness throughout your life.
Plenty of WoW players have lived to change their mind and regret their priorities. Worst case: A few years of WoW, at the cost of girlfriend and education. 50 years left to regret the choice.
Of course, your brain will start making excuses and you might convince yourself it is actually all for the better and what you wanted all along. And you're happy. Such happiness is hollow and dry, deep down you know it is wrong.
A balanced life has value in our culture because it is the lifestyle that tend to give the most happiness in the long run.
I lost my sig.
Just look what they did to rainbows! What happens if I just happen to like rainbows? Huh? Ever thought of that? My little pony, carebears, tele-tubbies. They took my childhood. Bastards! -eric- "Make no mistake about why these babies are here; they are here to replace us." - Jerry Seinfeld
Next Up: the new WoW 3.3 patch comes out next Tuesday, which will render this headline inaccurate.
You can't get to the end of something that has no end.
Buckaroo Banzai is that you?
His WoW game was running at 69 frames per second.
Today with refrigeration? I eat raw sushi all the time.
Sushi is not pork. Let wikipedia explain it to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysticercosis
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not because it is addicting, simply because it offers you more opportunity to succeed at something than real life. While much like real life, success is not guaranteed, you don't lose much by trying. In real world this is not always the case. Also relevant, while in real world you may be rewarded for success, it is not always true. And you are usually punished for failure. To top it off, real world gives you a more unfair playing field.
Instead of asking yourself what is wrong with people who escape to WoW, you should ask yourself why is the real world so fucked up? And why are you so fucked up if you think it's OK.
Well, actually that isn't true. There is overwhelming proof that "all things in moderation" is true and a good rule to follow. You simply graph the use or intake of any prime motivator (sugar, internet/web, sex, humor, games) and you will see an area of the graph that represents enjoyment with low consequences... then you will see an area where it overflows into ruining a persons life because of not paying attention to other obligations, lack of exercise, body cant handle it because it's too much, other people hurt by ones actions and retaliating, missing all appointments, and so on. However, in this case, there's no proof that beating World of Warcraft has negative consequences. All we have to go on is a South Park episode where idiotic characters were depicted as becoming grossly overweight after playing the game (as opposed to, say, watching TV or spending time at work or in Church)
Farmville! All your crops are belong to us.
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EQ2 was a sequel vs. a reboot.
-=[ Who Is John Galt? ]=-
Either way, "rebooting" EQ would result in a fail. Simply because people's taste in MMOs have changed. People don't want "hard" MMOs anymore. People don't want "must group" MMOs anymore. People want easy mode and quick rewards.
Don't take my word for it, name one MMO that's become a success that is more like EQ than WoW that was successful recently. Name one where death is unforgiving and grouping is mandatory.
Besides EvE. EvE is a completely different beast.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Eve Online
Guild Wars
-=[ Who Is John Galt? ]=-
EvE does not count, as I said. EvE is no MMO in the traditional sense, which means that it is successful despite the difficulty and hardships. It's in the situation EQ was, it's the only one of its kind. I'm not too sure if an "easier" EvE could not attract a sizable portion of its user base, but being such a small user base it is unlikely any company will try to rip them from CCP.
And I don't see where the big death penalty is in GW?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.