Last time I looked Windows had file permissions as well, in the form of ACLs. I wish people like you would stop being hysterical about one GUI environment looking like another GUI environment, so fucking what if it looks like Windows or MacOS, funnily enough the vast majority of people who use computers use Windows or Macs and a familiar interface can't hurt in the quest to supplant them. It's not like Apple didn't originally license their interface from Xerox and it's certainly not like Microsoft haven't nicked ideas from everywhere to create their interface. At the end of the day though you don't have to use either GNOME or KDE so why don't you and the three other people here who think Unix should remain pure and not ever use anyone else's ideas just STFU.
Possibly although the IT sector is littered with the corpses of superior products. They need to lie through their teeth and produce mediocre products instead, that seems to be the most successful business model in this industry.
This is like saying that a Honda accord may be "better" than a Yugo. The only reason why CDMA exists is because it is so overwhelmingly superior to GSM that it won against the combined opposition of the biggest vendors/carriers in the world. In Europe, they actually passed laws to prevent local carriers from deploying CDMA, to protect their GSM-only vendors like Nokia, Ericcson, Siemens and Alcatel.
Taking advantage of people's stupidity is fine but there should be the potential for smaller competitors to come in and be less abusive, which as far as I can see from the US market isn't there. The other alternative is regulation, which certainly hasn't killed the thriving European market, quite the opposite in fact.
It isn't that hard for who? If you're telling me that something as complex as contributing to a huge C++ suite of programs isn't that hard then you're either totally insane or you're so blinded by the idea of shifting programming to India (where it's not done by illiterate peasants btw) that you're talking utter shite.
If it didn't have a web browser and all the competition did, people would still buy Windows, since you it's pretty hard to get a PC without it and because it runs everything that people want it to run. It's not like the PC seller wouldn't put one on in any case, they would be the ones to suffer if their default install didn't come with a web browser built in not Microsoft, they have the market sewn up to such a degree that only a superb piece of Win32 emulation software or a complete technology shift will remove them from that position.
It works now, not quite sure how I convinced Breezy to stop changing my NIC from eth0 to eth1 to eth2 and back again but I did, at one point it was using my wireless card as the default device and connecting to my neighbour's network even though I specified the Ethernet card at boot and several times after to be the default. I ended up reinstalling because I couldn't find any help in Breezy's documentation and following the slightly obscure stuff in the man page for the/etc/network/interfaces file didn't work. No doubt I could have reinstalled some package or other but without internet access it would have been a tedious cycle of reboot to Windows, save webpage, nope that doesn't work, rinse, repeat. All that for something that Linux has always supported and should, by now, be child's play for home networking (and PS works fine on Mandriva:P)
Well I dunno about Ubuntu, but I'm about ready to fly over to the US and go postal on the Kubuntu Breezy folks. I'm sorry but DHCP should just work, not work differently every time I boot. I've been using Linux since 1998 and I haven't had this much aggravation for such a simple thing since about 2000. And Kscd is incapable of playing CDs even though Amarok does it quite happily, wtf is that all about? Also could someone please explain why the networking bit of systemsettings doesn't seem to have anything to do with the actual operation of the network?
Exactly, the current Windows XP model is a pathetic joke, just try running as LUA as I do. I know what I'm doing more or less, fat chance the average user has of taking advantage of this quite handy malware deflector. Although the fault lies primarily with the app writers in assuming that a user will have full access, Run As doesn't really help to address things like stuff running at start up that wants full control, since you can't set it to run with Admin rights (at least on XP Home, dunno about Pro) or online games that are patched fairly regularly (hi Blizz) which sudo would address in both cases.
It also might have something to do with the fact that VMWare runs on several other OSes as well negating the need for at least one Windows license per desktop or server.
Don't abuse my family, friends and work colleagues if you don't want me to get abusive in return. The problems with Windows are Microsoft's fault, not theirs, and I notice you've completely avoided addressing my point about their poor design decisions and skipped to the blame the user position again. My Slashdot user number is irrelevant, I was in IT for a very long time and obviously I've been reading tech web sites for information and hints. Doesn't mean I haven't lived a very full life. Plus giving shit to dorks like you is entertaining.
Browsing to 0wned websites with IE on anything other than XP SP2 will allow that 0wned website to put whatever it likes on your PC unless you're tech-savvy enough to know to change the default behaviour. That is most assuredly Microsoft's fault since they have given any scumbag a wide open door to any PC that doesn't have a well-read admin (that would be most of them). Now if you nerds would go wash and actually meet ordinary people occasionally you'd know that not being computer-savvy in no way makes you stupid, and since Microsoft has done its level best to hide any scary complexity from its users without actually making anything secure until it got too ludicrous to ignore the problems any longer, and given that this is the largest software company in the world who can and do give their users whatever they feel like releasing, it's an absolute scandal that it took until 2003 to fix some very obvious flaws. God I hate holier than thou IT assholes, I know so many bright people who freeze in front of a computer, and I've met some utter dumbasses who think that because they know the bash shell that they're some kind of god. Lose weight, get some dress sense, wash every day and take some lessons in social skills for god sake.
My point isn't that I know lots of languages, it's that I have very little trouble in picking up newer tech quickly and that that and my 14 years of IT experience are considered worthless even though experience in the business world (and I've worked for some of the biggest in Europe) is surely more valuable than a university education no matter how extensive. Like I said before I know I can do the job but because my resume is missing the relevant experience therefore I'm going to have to lie to get in which is ludicrous as well as dishonest. As for getting the qualifications don't you think it's just a little idiotic that I need to spend three or four years at university or five or six years at night school to get pretty much the same job I was doing between the ages of 19 and 33 (I'm 35 now)? In any case I have a qualification in C++ programming (which I got top marks in - it was child's play) and it doesn't seem to have made the slightest difference to my marketability. I already understand the principles of language structure and design: I've been a developer for a long time and there's precious few fundamental differences between any of the languages I've learned over the years from COBOL to C++, OO being the only significant one and that's not exactly hard. Threading and distributed code exist on z/OS as well, and as for enterprise challenges, try billion pound/euro systems for 3 big banks, 2 utilities, 2 retailers, a major tyre manufacturer and a major distribution company across 4 countries. I shouldn't need a qualification to prove my IT ability, I have a full resume and various glowing references that prove that but yet somehow a 21 year old with little life experience and little business sense beyond the business module they took is considered more valuable than someone who's spent 14 years working for major corporations just because they have done some projects in Java and I haven't. How does that make sense?
How about someone with 15 years full development lifecycle experience in a mainframe background who picks up new languages with ease (C++ was a stroll to learn, Java even more so and VB(6, A, Script) I can do in my sleep) because right now no-one will employ me due to my lack of an IT degree (which I've never needed to actually do my job) and/or my lack of industry experience. The most ludicrous of my rejections was a company that wanted a COBOL & VB6 programmer. I had six months of VBA/VBScript at the time (from automating all the repetitive stuff in the just above minimum wage clerical job I had to take when made redundant) but this wasn't good enough for them. Nine months later they were still looking for someone when I could have picked it what they needed in 2 or 3. I know I can do a VB, VC# or non-J2EE Java job right now, but because of the moronic nature of IT recruitment I'm going to have to lie to get one.
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So what do you think Red Hat, Novell and IBM amongst many others are doing?
And what part of don't use KDE or GNOME if you don't like them are you failing to grasp?
Last time I looked Windows had file permissions as well, in the form of ACLs. I wish people like you would stop being hysterical about one GUI environment looking like another GUI environment, so fucking what if it looks like Windows or MacOS, funnily enough the vast majority of people who use computers use Windows or Macs and a familiar interface can't hurt in the quest to supplant them. It's not like Apple didn't originally license their interface from Xerox and it's certainly not like Microsoft haven't nicked ideas from everywhere to create their interface. At the end of the day though you don't have to use either GNOME or KDE so why don't you and the three other people here who think Unix should remain pure and not ever use anyone else's ideas just STFU.
The word you're looking for is cheap not useable. If Solaris boxes weren't useable none would be sold.
Possibly although the IT sector is littered with the corpses of superior products. They need to lie through their teeth and produce mediocre products instead, that seems to be the most successful business model in this industry.
This is like saying that a Honda accord may be "better" than a Yugo. The only reason why CDMA exists is because it is so overwhelmingly superior to GSM that it won against the combined opposition of the biggest vendors/carriers in the world. In Europe, they actually passed laws to prevent local carriers from deploying CDMA, to protect their GSM-only vendors like Nokia, Ericcson, Siemens and Alcatel.
They did? Have you got a link for that?
Taking advantage of people's stupidity is fine but there should be the potential for smaller competitors to come in and be less abusive, which as far as I can see from the US market isn't there. The other alternative is regulation, which certainly hasn't killed the thriving European market, quite the opposite in fact.
leverage is a bloody noun ffs !!!!!!111one1!!
If I remember rightly Microsoft did try to license Netscape Navigator and was told where to go, which led to them licensing Spyglass instead.
There used to be a couple of guys in my area but they got eaten by the big bad wolf.
It isn't that hard for who? If you're telling me that something as complex as contributing to a huge C++ suite of programs isn't that hard then you're either totally insane or you're so blinded by the idea of shifting programming to India (where it's not done by illiterate peasants btw) that you're talking utter shite.
You must be new here, slashdot is full of Microsoft defenders.
If it didn't have a web browser and all the competition did, people would still buy Windows, since you it's pretty hard to get a PC without it and because it runs everything that people want it to run. It's not like the PC seller wouldn't put one on in any case, they would be the ones to suffer if their default install didn't come with a web browser built in not Microsoft, they have the market sewn up to such a degree that only a superb piece of Win32 emulation software or a complete technology shift will remove them from that position.
Considering that position was obtained and has been maintained illegally, I have zero sympathy.
Mod up please :)
It works now, not quite sure how I convinced Breezy to stop changing my NIC from eth0 to eth1 to eth2 and back again but I did, at one point it was using my wireless card as the default device and connecting to my neighbour's network even though I specified the Ethernet card at boot and several times after to be the default. /etc/network/interfaces file didn't work. No doubt I could have reinstalled some package or other but without internet access it would have been a tedious cycle of reboot to Windows, save webpage, nope that doesn't work, rinse, repeat. All that for something that Linux has always supported and should, by now, be child's play for home networking (and PS works fine on Mandriva :P)
I ended up reinstalling because I couldn't find any help in Breezy's documentation and following the slightly obscure stuff in the man page for the
Shoot all marketing arseholes. Is that opinionated enough for you?
Well I dunno about Ubuntu, but I'm about ready to fly over to the US and go postal on the Kubuntu Breezy folks. I'm sorry but DHCP should just work, not work differently every time I boot. I've been using Linux since 1998 and I haven't had this much aggravation for such a simple thing since about 2000. And Kscd is incapable of playing CDs even though Amarok does it quite happily, wtf is that all about? Also could someone please explain why the networking bit of systemsettings doesn't seem to have anything to do with the actual operation of the network?
Exactly, the current Windows XP model is a pathetic joke, just try running as LUA as I do. I know what I'm doing more or less, fat chance the average user has of taking advantage of this quite handy malware deflector. Although the fault lies primarily with the app writers in assuming that a user will have full access, Run As doesn't really help to address things like stuff running at start up that wants full control, since you can't set it to run with Admin rights (at least on XP Home, dunno about Pro) or online games that are patched fairly regularly (hi Blizz) which sudo would address in both cases.
It also might have something to do with the fact that VMWare runs on several other OSes as well negating the need for at least one Windows license per desktop or server.
Don't abuse my family, friends and work colleagues if you don't want me to get abusive in return. The problems with Windows are Microsoft's fault, not theirs, and I notice you've completely avoided addressing my point about their poor design decisions and skipped to the blame the user position again. My Slashdot user number is irrelevant, I was in IT for a very long time and obviously I've been reading tech web sites for information and hints. Doesn't mean I haven't lived a very full life. Plus giving shit to dorks like you is entertaining.
Browsing to 0wned websites with IE on anything other than XP SP2 will allow that 0wned website to put whatever it likes on your PC unless you're tech-savvy enough to know to change the default behaviour. That is most assuredly Microsoft's fault since they have given any scumbag a wide open door to any PC that doesn't have a well-read admin (that would be most of them). Now if you nerds would go wash and actually meet ordinary people occasionally you'd know that not being computer-savvy in no way makes you stupid, and since Microsoft has done its level best to hide any scary complexity from its users without actually making anything secure until it got too ludicrous to ignore the problems any longer, and given that this is the largest software company in the world who can and do give their users whatever they feel like releasing, it's an absolute scandal that it took until 2003 to fix some very obvious flaws.
God I hate holier than thou IT assholes, I know so many bright people who freeze in front of a computer, and I've met some utter dumbasses who think that because they know the bash shell that they're some kind of god. Lose weight, get some dress sense, wash every day and take some lessons in social skills for god sake.
Which would hurt Microsoft a lot more than the EU, or can they really afford to give up a huge percentage of their profits?
My point isn't that I know lots of languages, it's that I have very little trouble in picking up newer tech quickly and that that and my 14 years of IT experience are considered worthless even though experience in the business world (and I've worked for some of the biggest in Europe) is surely more valuable than a university education no matter how extensive. Like I said before I know I can do the job but because my resume is missing the relevant experience therefore I'm going to have to lie to get in which is ludicrous as well as dishonest.
As for getting the qualifications don't you think it's just a little idiotic that I need to spend three or four years at university or five or six years at night school to get pretty much the same job I was doing between the ages of 19 and 33 (I'm 35 now)? In any case I have a qualification in C++ programming (which I got top marks in - it was child's play) and it doesn't seem to have made the slightest difference to my marketability.
I already understand the principles of language structure and design: I've been a developer for a long time and there's precious few fundamental differences between any of the languages I've learned over the years from COBOL to C++, OO being the only significant one and that's not exactly hard. Threading and distributed code exist on z/OS as well, and as for enterprise challenges, try billion pound/euro systems for 3 big banks, 2 utilities, 2 retailers, a major tyre manufacturer and a major distribution company across 4 countries.
I shouldn't need a qualification to prove my IT ability, I have a full resume and various glowing references that prove that but yet somehow a 21 year old with little life experience and little business sense beyond the business module they took is considered more valuable than someone who's spent 14 years working for major corporations just because they have done some projects in Java and I haven't. How does that make sense?
How about someone with 15 years full development lifecycle experience in a mainframe background who picks up new languages with ease (C++ was a stroll to learn, Java even more so and VB(6, A, Script) I can do in my sleep) because right now no-one will employ me due to my lack of an IT degree (which I've never needed to actually do my job) and/or my lack of industry experience. The most ludicrous of my rejections was a company that wanted a COBOL & VB6 programmer. I had six months of VBA/VBScript at the time (from automating all the repetitive stuff in the just above minimum wage clerical job I had to take when made redundant) but this wasn't good enough for them. Nine months later they were still looking for someone when I could have picked it what they needed in 2 or 3. I know I can do a VB, VC# or non-J2EE Java job right now, but because of the moronic nature of IT recruitment I'm going to have to lie to get one.