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Software Tracks Blogosphere Mood Swings

holy_calamity writes "Dutch researchers have figured out a way to measure the mood swings of the blogosphere. It can pick up peaks of flirtiness from bloggers around Valentine's Day and drunkenness at weekends, the plan is to create a search engine that returns the prevailing mood in the blogosphere about a topic. Companies are already interested in using it to track consumer confidence. What's the mood of Slashdot on this one?"

149 comments

  1. Repulsed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Blog is not a word.

    1. Re:Repulsed by Nesetril · · Score: 1

      so today, like every day, the blogosphere feels "flirty and lonely". this is going to help consumer research how? Hell, I am Google, I think I am going to buy this little start up anyway. I mean, what else am I going to do?

      --
      Jesus said to his disciples: "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one" - Luke 22:36
    2. Re:Repulsed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just a heads up - yes it is.

  2. Been there, done that. by XorNand · · Score: 5, Interesting


    This is old news. Just blogs? Bah! Color me unimpressed. I've already harnessed the power of the Internet to track the mood of the entire planet: http://www.howisyourday.com/

    --
    Entrepreneur : (noun), French for "unemployed"
    1. Re:Been there, done that. by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are you trying to be funny? Getting a small group of people who speak english to and are willing to put up with voting / verification is in no way a representitive sample. Now if you went into their blog and determined their mood from the text, that might be cool.

    2. Re:Been there, done that. by JordanL · · Score: 4, Funny

      FTA: On Valentine's Day, there is spike in the numbers of bloggers who use the labels "loved" or "flirty", but also an increase in the number who report feeling "lonely".

      So let me get this straight... all this to discover that people either think about their relationships or lack or relationships on Valentines Day...

      This is the ultimate geek software. "What is this strange thing... emotion... I'll build a software program to explain it to me."

    3. Re:Been there, done that. by Nesetril · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to mention, TFA doesn't explain how this is accomplished from a technological point of view. Makes me suspect that all they are doing is just a frequency analysis painted with Kinkaid colors and various insane words from the "blogospheric" vocabulary.

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      Jesus said to his disciples: "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one" - Luke 22:36
    4. Re:Been there, done that. by pope1 · · Score: 1

      That's pretty cool, actually. Would be neat if you could localize it more, I know there are days when my town just feels angry =P

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      /* * pope1 */
    5. Re:Been there, done that. by daviddennis · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, the article was pretty clear on how it worked, but I'll explain it a little better since I guess (from your post) it was confusing.

      When you write a blog entry in LiveJournal, you're give an opportunity to select a "mood" from a dropdown list of moods. So you can say you're

      happy
      sad
      loved
      excited
      lonely
      (etc)

      by just picking the appropriate word.

      Now, as you know, emotional data taken from a dropdown list at the end of writing a blog post might not be worth taking all that seriously, but it's data, and you can try to analyze it.

      Now, some people are laughing at this by saying that it should of course be obvious that people are likely to be feeling loved or lonely around Valentines' day. But actually this is an important observation, since it says that what people pick in the dropdown can be related to real events. Of course we know people are loved/lonely on Valentines' day; what we didn't know is if what they picked on the dropdown was meaningful. Now we know it is, and so (in theory) we can use this to predict events or people's behaviour based on what they say.

      The Harry Potter example showed that this could in fact be done, and this means that further reasearch might be promising. For example, let's say there was a "suicidal" mood in the list. It would be interesting to track whether actual suciides were predictable or at least more likely after showing those moods, so that an early warning system for such behavior could be created.

      On paper, it seems possible that lives could be saved that way, which makes this a non-trivial application indeed. To support my theory, note the previous news reports we've seen here that note that suicidal behavior was often predictable in hindsight from what people wrote on their Myspace profiles. If this could be determined from moods, which are trivial to check automatically, it might be a very interesting result indeed.

      Hope that helped people's understanding.

      D

    6. Re:Been there, done that. by Gyga · · Score: 0, Redundant

      It can't be done or else Data would have done it before he got his emotion chip.

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      I don't preview or spellcheck.
    7. Re:Been there, done that. by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      Meh, its easy to say suicidal behavior is easy to predict in hindsight, but how many people match all the criteria that people apply to the suicides who are not going to commit suicide?

      All automated flagging will do is annoy a lot of people and discourage them from posting anything honest about how they feel. What they really need is someone personally noticing and taking action, not some automated spider ran by someone who could give a fuck about you. Its the same reason guidance councelers don't really help depression in schools -- You know he doesn't care.

      Want to do something about it? Start caring about people, and discourage others when they just brush someone off or act with disregard to how it impacts others. It's a social issue that needs a societal fix, not a bot going around perscribing prozac to anyone whos ever had a shitty week, which is where this will end up eventually. It's even more cost effective than the forces mental health screening planned for public schools.

      --
      Pain lasts, kid. Its how you know you're alive. Sometimes I think this growing up thing is just pain management-TheMaxx
    8. Re:Been there, done that. by XorNand · · Score: 1

      Yes, it was a half-hearted attempt at humor. Guess I need to work on my delivery.

      --
      Entrepreneur : (noun), French for "unemployed"
    9. Re:Been there, done that. by damonlab · · Score: 1

      The problem is that the drop down list will never have an entry for the whole range of emotions one could have.

      I doubt the drop down list will have entries such as:
      snarky
      frumpy
      bleh
      could be worse
      'aight
      whatever

    10. Re:Been there, done that. by bnf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So if there is a corelation between mood and blog posts how about using this data set to "prime the pump" of a Bayesian filter which would analyse blog posts on other sites and determine how likely it is that the blog post is one of these moods.

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    11. Re:Been there, done that. by bnf · · Score: 1

      What if people are chosing emotions in relation to certain events and things because it's socially too their advantage to do so? Aren't they a) acurately portraying their emotions instead of lying and b) using a public forum where they might just try to make polite conversation with people they don't know by bringing up such things as Valentines day or the weather.

      I'm not sure you can really trust this data in the way you've suggested.

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    12. Re:Been there, done that. by somersault · · Score: 1

      That's a very good point, if the Chinese government (or even our own governments) got hold of something like this, and started locking you away whenever you selected a drop box option of 'suicidal', or said 'rubber chickens', then we're well on the way to having our own Big Brother.

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      which is totally what she said
    13. Re:Been there, done that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like they are doing this :
      http://ilps.science.uva.nl/MoodViews/Moodteller/

    14. Re:Been there, done that. by Peganthyrus · · Score: 1

      LJ lets you fill in the 'mood' field by selecting from a dropdown, or from typing in arbitrary text. Looking at my recent LJ entries, I see things like "pretty good, all things considered" and "out of Coke" along with the 'normal' ones like "tired". And a lot of entries with no mood data.

      This thing is probably only surveying the Official Moods, but maybe they're looking for commonalities in freeform moods, as well. It's all displayed as a text string anyway.

      The dropdown contains:
      accomplished, aggravated, amused, angry, annoyed, anxious, apathetic, artistic, awake, bitchy, blah, blank, bored, bouncy, busy, calm, cheerful, chipper, cold, complacent, confused, contemplative, content, cranky, crappy, crazy, creative, crushed, curious, cynical, depressed, determined, devious, dirty, disappointed, discontent, distressed, ditzy, dorky, drained, drunk, ecstatic, embarrassed, energetic, enraged, enthralled, envious, exanimate, excited, exhausted, flirty, frustrated, full, geeky, giddy, giggly, gloomy, good, grateful, groggy, grumpy, guilty, happy, high, hopeful, horny, hot, hungry, hyper, impressed, indescribable, indifferent, infuriated, intimidated, irate, irritated, jealous, jubilant, lazy, lethargic, listless, lonely, loved, melancholy, mellow, mischievous, moody, morose, naughty, nauseated, nerdy, nervous, nostalgic, numb, okay, optimistic, peaceful, pensive, pessimistic, pissed off, pleased, predatory, productive, quixotic, recumbent, refreshed, rejected, rejuvenated, relaxed, relieved, restless, rushed, sad, satisfied, scared, shocked, sick, silly, sleepy, sore, stressed, surprised, sympathetic, thankful, thirsty, thoughtful, tired, touched, uncomfortable, weird, working, worried

      --
      egypt urnash minimal art.
    15. Re:Been there, done that. by gold23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't be too hard on yourself. I got it. I think it was the "Bah" that really tipped your hand.

      --
      Trust not a man who's rich in flax / His morals may be sadly lax
    16. Re:Been there, done that. by stevey · · Score: 1
      When you write a blog entry in LiveJournal, you're give an opportunity to select a "mood" from a dropdown list of moods.

      For a bit of fun a few years ago I copied down each of the available "moods" and tried to assign ratings to them - to see how true the idea that Livejournal gets angsty EMO types.

      The results in 2003 showed that Livejournal is overly negative.

      Of the 131 available moods I classed them as 33 positive, 58 negative, and 40 neutral.

      Things might be different now if they've expanded the range - I'm not sure - or since my opinion might have changed as some of the moods are pretty hard to qualify.

    17. Re:Been there, done that. by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

      I think you're right. I don't read Harry Potter since it's totally suicidal.. from a literary pow.

      Read: The Alphabet of Manliness

  3. Blogosphere Mood by NitsujTPU · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My mood always turns sour when people refer to the "Blogosphere."

    I'll take a few fewer buzzwords a day, and call my Dr. next week to see if the situation improves.

    1. Re:Blogosphere Mood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better not blog that too bodly in your blog or the blogerati are going to get a coupla of pipe-hitting bloggers to get blog evil on your ass. Blog.

    2. Re:Blogosphere Mood by walmartshopper67 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Yeah I'm with you - tired of the buzzword crap. Why would anyone really care about the "blogosphere" to begin with - there is a reason these people have "blogs", because nobody will listen to them. It's worse than the tabloids. Why would I want the opinion of these people to begin with? Are they educated on a specific subject? Or, more likely, wannabe pundits? Btw, its a GODDAMN WEBPAGE, WEBSITE, SITE, not a "blog" or "weblog". It's the same damn thing with the same crappy layouts and the same crappy content. Need proof? You can "blog" on MySpace! Enough said.

    3. Re:Blogosphere Mood by From+A+Far+Away+Land · · Score: 1

      Livejournal's mood setting, or imood.com has been using tagging to do what they say for a while now.

    4. Re:Blogosphere Mood by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What is this "special relativity"? I hate buzzwords. Just call it the ether like everyone else. I mean they're close enough...and nobody's gonna need to use "special relativity" in calculations anyway, it's just hypothetical.

    5. Re:Blogosphere Mood by Drkdstryer · · Score: 1

      Bomb the Blogosphere!


      Third shirt down.

    6. Re:Blogosphere Mood by Minwee · · Score: 1

      We could refer to it as the noosphere if that would make you happier.

    7. Re:Blogosphere Mood by run4ever79 · · Score: 1, Informative
      It is already on my list of overused bs words
      • Blogosphere
      • Web 2.0
      • Netizen
      • AJAX
      • Podcast
      • ROI
      • TCO
      • Mash-up
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      Linux : Hotrod :: Windows : Yugo
    8. Re:Blogosphere Mood by hey! · · Score: 1

      Well, imagine it as the terrain that was partially demolished to make way for the Information Superhighway.

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      Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
    9. Re:Blogosphere Mood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just think of what you're proposing. If we called them websites instead of blogs, then this new piece of software would have to study the mood swings of the "websitosphere", and that would sound stupid, now wouldn't it?

    10. Re:Blogosphere Mood by Jakeypants · · Score: 1

      Me too, it's so blogstrating to read words like "blogosphere."

  4. Reservation... by Spytap · · Score: 1

    Reservation...as with most topics that involve personal tracking, and large corporations having access to personal information (and yes, I consider my mood personal information when it's being used to a company's advantage).

    1. Re:Reservation... by crazyjeremy · · Score: 1

      Sounds like "Dutch researchers" have selected and invented a group of buzzwords to get them on the homepage of Slashdot. Impressive.

    2. Re:Reservation... by Gyga · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hope whatever they use listens to robots.txt

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      I don't preview or spellcheck.
    3. Re:Reservation... by shawb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I understand your concerns, but information that you yourself put on a webpage should not be considered private. If you don't want personal information to get out, don't post it in a public forum. Besides, it doesn't sound like this particular piece of software is really collecting personal information; all it does is look for spikes in a particular mood tag, and then parses through the text in the publically readable text to find unusual words. If this helps companies figure out what products actually excite people, then they will come out with products that people actually like (if used properly.)

      As a company (and especially as an investor) I would, however, take any information gathered through such a technique with a grain of salt or two. It seems that it would be close to trivial for a company game the system and set up enough accounts or bribe enough bloggers to tip the scales one way or the other, essentially creating inter-corporate astroturphing.

      --
      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
    4. Re:Reservation... by Eskarel · · Score: 1

      A very simple lesson in life. If you don't want something listened to, don't shout it in public(that's essentially what a blog is). If you don't want people to see what you're doing don't do it in public. You don't have that level of privacy in public. You can copyright your works to stop people from copying them, but if you stick it on a blog you're giving everyone license to read it and everyone includes marketing types.

  5. Can it detect the entire spectrum of moods? by koweja · · Score: 5, Funny

    From whiney to really pissed off?

    1. Re:Can it detect the entire spectrum of moods? by mctk · · Score: 4, Funny
      The entire spectrum of moods is from whiney to really pissed off? You're married aren't ya?

      ::ducks

      --
      Paul Grosfield - the quicker picker upper.
    2. Re:Can it detect the entire spectrum of moods? by koweja · · Score: 1

      Nope, but my girlfriend has the entire human spectrum of emotions, and does not post on myspace.
      I wonder if there is a connection between those two things...

    3. Re:Can it detect the entire spectrum of moods? by eosp · · Score: 0, Funny

      You have a girlfriend? We don't like your kind here.

  6. So... by TechnoGuyRob · · Score: 4, Funny

    The blogosphere is female? Oh wait, we're on our way to understanding it. Nevermind then.

    1. Re:So... by Winlin · · Score: 1

      Note to self: When the blogosphere mood gauge hits 'PMS'...unplug router for the next week.

  7. Mood of Slashdot? by TheDarkener · · Score: 2, Funny

    +1 Smart ass
    +1 Pro Linux
    -1 Corporatism
    -1 Proprietarism (is that a word? Happy 4:20..sorry)

    And...of course

    +1 CowboyNeal

    Disregarding the above blabber, this software sounds so flippin' cool. I've always thought about the overall mood of people, and if there's relation between it and a certain period of time. Like a website that simply asks "Are you happy right now?" or "Are you sad right now?" Very useful information! *gazes up at sky*

    --
    It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
    1. Re:Mood of Slashdot? by shawb · · Score: 1

      Like a website that simply asks "Are you happy right now?" or "Are you sad right now?"

      Nah... noone would ever bother to set up such a website.

      --
      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
    2. Re:Mood of Slashdot? by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 1

      I've always thought about the overall mood of people, and if there's relation between it and a certain period of time.

      Not just that, but you could attempt to track the mood in relation to data. If a popular news item was making the rounds, what was the overall mood of those passing it. Did the information affect the mood and how?

      Scary stuff.

  8. skeptical by caffeinemessiah · · Score: 1, Redundant
    I am highly skeptical about this. Opinion extraction in general is a difficult area of data mining with enough problems in areas as (relatively) well defined as Amazon reviews, etc. To try to measure the general mood of the "blogosphere" with any measure of accuracy is useless at best. And just how are you supposed to even roughly verify the "mood" for arbitrary ideas?? Random human sampling and verification just won't cut it...

    Companies might be better off using a magic 8 ball...

    --
    An old-timer with old-timey ideas.
    1. Re:skeptical by TechnoGuyRob · · Score: 2, Informative

      Erm...I don't know if you read the article, but they extract the moods from LifeJournal posts, not analyze the text or anything like that.

      Assuming that people are honest about their moods (and why wouldn't they be?), I don't see why this wouldn't be accurate.

      Apparently, your mood right now is ignorant.

    2. Re:skeptical by Nesetril · · Score: 1

      Yeah but that kind of average is too unspecific. Even in the TFA they seemed to try to sell it as something more larger than that. I totally got the impression that their reported mood was supposed to reflect on specific recent events. It's either that or a fun crawler toy you can make in less than an hour. Which one is it?

      --
      Jesus said to his disciples: "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one" - Luke 22:36
    3. Re:skeptical by flooey · · Score: 1

      Yeah but that kind of average is too unspecific. Even in the TFA they seemed to try to sell it as something more larger than that. I totally got the impression that their reported mood was supposed to reflect on specific recent events. It's either that or a fun crawler toy you can make in less than an hour. Which one is it?

      A bit of both. From what I understood, first, they crawl all the pages and figure out what the general mood profile is. Then, they try to identify unusual mood settings. If they find that some moods are appearing abnormally often, they go through posts with those moods attached and try to find words that don't normally come up, with the idea being that the unusual words are probably the cause of the unusual mood.

  9. Tracking bad hair trends, too? by cno3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The software, called MoodViews, was created by Gilad Mishne and colleagues at Amsterdam University, The Netherlands. It tracks about 10 million blogs hosted by the US service LiveJournal.

    Monday - Mood: Emo
    Tuesday - Mood: Emo
    Wednesday - Mood: Emo ...

    1. Re:Tracking bad hair trends, too? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

      Friday - Mood: In Love
                      Hair: Flock of Seagulls

    2. Re:Tracking bad hair trends, too? by zaguar · · Score: 2, Funny
      Q: How many emo's does it take to change a lightbulb?

      A: None. They just sit in the dark and cry.

      --
      "Sure there's porn and piracy on the Web but there's probably a downside too."
    3. Re:Tracking bad hair trends, too? by Rachel+Lucid · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I should have known Livejournal was the source of this. With people's entries naturally having a mood category, the analysis becomes next to trivial.

      Here I was hoping for something clever, like word frequency or something.

  10. I saw the source... by minitual · · Score: 1, Funny

    userMood=random(3); switch(userMood) { case 1: user="Depressed"; break; case 2: user="Drunk"; break; case 3: user="Happy" break; } return 0; On another note, I thought most companies didn't like their users blogging.

    1. Re:I saw the source... by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 1

      considering you failed to return user, it's pretty useless. You'll get a mood of "fjklasdfjjfklasjdfl" or the initialized value ("dead"?) if you don't get an error.

    2. Re:I saw the source... by MoriaOrc · · Score: 1

      Unless, of course, user is a member of a class or a global variable. Which would make sense, since the GP didn't need to declare it...
      </counter-nit-pick >

    3. Re:I saw the source... by minitual · · Score: 0

      ...Maybe I meant do that...maybe I was making a symbolic point.

  11. Checking mood... by JoeCommodore · · Score: 2, Funny

    Was a yellow-green now looks like its changing to a deep purple.

    --
    "Enjoy what you're doing! If it becomes drudgery, you're doing it wrong!" - Jim Butterfield
  12. Marketing Buzz Alert by anomalous+cohort · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Blogosphere (a collective term encompassing all weblogs) isn't really addressable so how can it be measurable? It's not like there is a URL to "the blogosphere" and how would you know if you have successfully polled all blogs on the Internet? This appears to be a subtle commercial for LiveJournal.

    1. Re:Marketing Buzz Alert by Nesetril · · Score: 1

      right. it's a BETA.

      --
      Jesus said to his disciples: "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one" - Luke 22:36
    2. Re:Marketing Buzz Alert by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      The Blogosphere (a collective term encompassing all weblogs) isn't really addressable so how can it be measurable? It's not like there is a URL to "the blogosphere" and how would you know if you have successfully polled all blogs on the Internet? This appears to be a subtle commercial for LiveJournal.

      Find as many things that seem to be blogs and take the mood of them. See what people are on about.

      Blogs occur on private web-sites, a whole boat load of blogging services, and everything in between.

      I don't see this as necessarily needing to endorse one site or another. Gobs of people have blogs on all sorts of different contexts.

      Unfortunately, as wierd as the word 'blogosphere' is, there isn't another word which describes the space which includes all blogs on the web. So we're probably stuck with it. :-P
      --
      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    3. Re:Marketing Buzz Alert by marquis-cablewitch · · Score: 1

      Well in the same way a representative poll of peoples opinions can be performed without needing the entire worlds populations to complete it.

      You need a representative random sample. Its not rocket science, it just needs people to pay attention.

      Of course if they just covered N thousand user accounts at LiveJournal then its doubtful to be representative of "All users who update their website with a CMS that allows for easy chronological additions" (yes I hate the phrase blogosphere as well, but I've yet to come up with a better phrase that basically encompasses the fact that its just a bunch of people with homepages) and instead will just be representative (perhaps, depends on their sampling method) of the users of LiveJournal (the sample that is, not the data gathered, that can still be a lot of crap).

  13. And? by Jayjay75 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What would this tell us, exactly? That people are more inclined to get drunk on weekends and are grouchier on Mondays than on other days? This is something we don't already know?

  14. Mixed Signals by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Great. Humans already have trouble interpreting the tone of electronic messages. On top of that, let's have some algorithm tack on the subtle clues so necessary for proper interpretation of human communication. After all, computers have already shown a bang-up track record dealing with Human languages.

    Cool project though. Hilarity will undoubtedly ensue.

    1. Re:Mixed Signals by geoffspear · · Score: 1

      Subtle cues? It's tracking what mood LiveJournal users pick from a drop-down menu. It's not that hard to come up with an algorithm to determine what someone's mood is when they explicitly tell you what their mood is.

      --
      Don't blame me; I'm never given mod points.
    2. Re:Mixed Signals by patio11 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I could see this working. Is it any harder to tell if a message is, say, depressed than it is to determine if a message is a commercial pitch?* Because pure-"Bayesian" analysis of spam routinely gets 95%+ accuracy, which if we're not talking about the content of any specific message but are trying to measure trends between time periods is plenty good enough. Lets take a particular application: Apple wants to know if their iPods are still the hottest thing on the planet. Simple process: have a team of humans hand-classify 1000 posts on LiveJournal mentioning iPods (just grep for it) as "pro-iPod" or "anything else". Then have your trained classifier slurp up every post that day, discard any that doesn't mention iPod, and classify ahoy. Ten minutes later: "Beep, 87% of 23842385902 messages mentioning iPod (5.3% of all posts in last 24 hours) are mostly upbeat."

      * Whether it is or not is not obvious to me, but setting up an experiment to figure out which it is isn't that hard.

    3. Re:Mixed Signals by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1
      Because pure-"Bayesian" analysis of spam routinely gets 95%+ accuracy, which if we're not talking about the content of any specific message but are trying to measure trends between time periods is plenty good enough.


      Yes - I'm sure mood can easily be interpreted with Bayesian analysis. Human communication isn't much more complex than spam, after all.

      Quick exercise to the reader - was that earnest or sarcasm?

      Cool idea though. I'm sure there is some degree of analysis that can be done. It'd be interesting to see how specific the application would have to be to get any degree of accuracy.
    4. Re:Mixed Signals by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      Large. The human ones have already the trouble to interpret the dial
      tone of the electronic mails. On this, leave have a certain point of
      algorithm to us on the indices subtle if necessary for the suitable
      translation of human transmission. After all, the computers already
      showed a formidable professional experiment treating human languages.

      Refreshing the plant nevertheless. Laughter that follows without the
      doubt.

  15. Slashdot mood? by TechnoGuyRob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's almost 30 posts and only one of them has been modded up (once, to funny no less)? I think I can predict the mood of Slashdot about this:

    Indifferent

    Or as a LiveJournalist would say:

    like i don care man

    1. Re:Slashdot mood? by aldheorte · · Score: 1

      I think it's because these sorts of things fall under the following catch-all that a more technically proficient crowd innately understands, even if not sure of the exact reason (which I put in another post):

      Your invention/analysis uses science/technology in an unscientific/non-technical/inappropriate way to prove something trivial/meaningless/completely wrong.

      People use the keyword 'love' more around Valentine's Day? Brilliant! Of course they do. Valentine's day comes with huge amounts of social programming for these keywords - just look at the massive amounts of marketing and cultural buildup. But making the determination that bloggers are therefore more 'flirty' - that's a completely arbitrary jump in logic. Next up, the keyword "Santa" is more common on blogs around Christmas and that means bloggers are feeling more generous. Etc.

    2. Re:Slashdot mood? by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      Those examples are obvious. They are given as a proof that the technology works at given level of triviality.

      What would be interesting is to observe otherwise unexplainable picks in their Moodgrapher and see what is behind them. "LiveJournal is huge", and at the statistical level individual mood swings stop become a husband's headache.

      Why would suddenly on 20th of April "aggressiveness" (or whatever they use) jumps? If it does that would be alarming, wouldn't it?

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  16. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They did this for Livejournal. It would always, without fail, return "tired".

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    [o]_O
  17. Re:BuuurrrPb by Nesetril · · Score: 3, Funny

    d00d, it's only thursday. you should feel "flirty and lonely" today not drunk and merry. you GODDAMN OUTLIER, remove yourself from the blogosphere or you will spoil our sales pitch to Google.

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  18. Re:Someone try this tech on Slashdot Story Submiss by Nesetril · · Score: 1

    damn, the parent just broke the mood analyzer thingie.

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  19. One word: by Xaroth · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Sardonic."

  20. the b word by Nesetril · · Score: 1

    every time you want to say "blog", just go ahead and say it. but afterwards add: "crying out loud". like this: "blog crying out loud". you won't notice when you start saying "for crying out loud" instead.

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  21. Its brilliantly interesting by deft · · Score: 1

    The ability to automate the aggregation of all this information and display it is pretty cool, and the target for this data mining is the general population is pretty cool.

    Of course things like trends will skew it so its not really what people are thinking, but rather what theier online personality wants other people to think they are thinking.... but still, very interesting!

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  22. My mood? by VTMarik · · Score: 0, Redundant

    VTMarik is a sad panda. BOMB THE BLOGOSPHERE! /QC Rocks! //Fark sig out!

  23. What's the mood of Slashdot on this one? by StressGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Geeky"

    There I go pissing karma away again....

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  24. debating the color of Schrödinger's cat? by Gothmolly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just as useless, and as unprovable. Next, specialized computer technology to detect the color underwear most bloggers wear?

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  25. Tepid by Dorsai65 · · Score: 1

    Amusing, but fairly pointless unless the thundering herd of sheeple that live their lives by what's hot/popular go for it - at which time it'll become profitable in a limited way for a limited number of people.

    Otherwise? yawn

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  26. Website still up? by Chris_Jefferson · · Score: 5, Informative

    This can't be right.. the website is still up. Perhaps that is because no-one can find the link To the actual moodviews website.

    I can't decide if I should feel guilty for posting this..

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    1. Re:Website still up? by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      AFAIK, they're looking at Live Journal tags and then comparing it to their analysis of the posts' text.

      I'm not sure how innovative this is, without actually knowing how they guess at the mood. Maybe it's something as simple as training a Bayesian filter and then saying "gosh, look at how accurate the predictions are!" The application would be innovative, but not the method.

      It would make for some great targeted advertising:
      Feeling depressed: Shop online for clothes!
      Feeling in love: Buy your sweet heart some flowers.
      etc

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    2. Re:Website still up? by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1

      It seems that their mood sensor must not be working, 'cause the "dorky" index for blogspace isn't increasing.

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  27. Re:Net zo nutteloos by Yaa+101 · · Score: 1

    Niet nodig...

    Laten we zeggen dat het ons geen reet kan schelen wat de bui van Blogosphere groupthink is...

    Babelfish dat

  28. Re:Someone try this tech on Slashdot Story Submiss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, sounds like you've got an appointment with the business end of a CNN camera crew, yourself.

  29. Tags required? by CFrankBernard · · Score: 1

    Does this mean we all have to start tagging?

    That's great...brilliant idea...[/sarcasm]

  30. Amused and Cynical about Bogospherians. by billstewart · · Score: 1

    It sounds like they're doing interesting work, as long as nobody takes it too seriously or starts, like, trying to make money off of it (in which case you'll see some form of astroturfing zombie army emerge to tweak the bogosphere's Mood Indices.) What happens to LiveJournal moods in September, or graduation time, or Christmas break, or release-date-for-some-popular-game?

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  31. That's simply incredible!!! by McFadden · · Score: 1
    So according to the mood measurement graph, the mood of bloggers becomes more "sleepy" late at night at around the time when a large number of the population generally go to bed.

    That's an amazing demonstration of how technology can reveal insightful and as yet unknown facts about humanity that we never would have been able to predict without this fantastic new tool.

    I can't believe how cool.... oh wait... Doh!

  32. blogospere lol by jigjigga · · Score: 1, Funny

    Whats next? podcastosphere? TrendytechwordO'sphere?

    1. Re:blogospere lol by RPoet · · Score: 1

      Whats next? podcastosphere?

      The proper word is "podosphere" (56 300 google hits).

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  33. i've got one of those by syrinx · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've found thier top-secret code:

    Mood of LiveJournal: angsty

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    1. Re:i've got one of those by syrinx · · Score: 1

      (there were supposed to be html tags in there, but Slashdot ate them. ah well. I fail it.)

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  34. This is more interesting... by Blazeix · · Score: 1

    The article focuses on the moodview, which analyzes the tags that bloggers use. While this may lead to some interesting data manipulation procedures, I think that Mood Teller is more interesting, it actually scans the text, and makes a guess on the mood. Then it compares its guess to the actual data that was gathered using the blogger tags.

  35. Why is it a buzzword? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, why is it a buzzword? It describes a unique phenomenon. It's just a word. I could say that "slashdotting" is also a buzzword that a few select nerds on the Internet use to describe a phenomenon as well. Also, why is that a few slashbots have to hog karma by repeating the same tired arguments?

    1. Re:Why is it a buzzword? by walmartshopper67 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a buzzword when it is used by people to describe things that have nothing to do with it. Like when 40 year old rednecks talk about one of my sites saying it is a "blog", instead of what it is and always has been, a website. A word like "slashdotting" would be a slang or scene type word, when a word like "blog" gets repeated all day in the media, usually to describe things that used to be "websites".

    2. Re:Why is it a buzzword? by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 0
      when a word like "blog" gets repeated all day in the media, usually to describe things that used to be "websites".
      Are they the same as chatnets and userooms?
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  36. Don't Be Fooled by Quantam · · Score: 1, Troll

    This is just another weapon for Bushitler's arsenal against civil liberties and free thought!

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  37. Magic 8 Ball Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They could just implement a "Magic 8 Ball" complete with fancy random seed generator, add their own personal bias for the day, and no one would know any better! But, "really cool, dude."

  38. My mood might be subjunctive ;) by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

    I guess that puts me in the smart-ass category...

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  39. Nielsen BuzzMetrics by sonofagunn · · Score: 1

    BuzzMetrics is already doing similar type of stuff. You can pay them to research your product or to keep tabs on it and some sort of search engine technology captures how much buzz the product is generating on the web as well as compiling reviews, blogs, posts, articles, etc., for review.

  40. track? by spezz · · Score: 1
    What's there to track? Just leave it set to "pissy" and you'll be fine.

  41. Easy solution: by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
    Don't post your mood in a public place if you want it to remain private. Ta da!

    For my next trick, I'll teach you how to keep strangers from seeing your bare genitalia.

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    1. Re:Easy solution: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I want strangers to see my bare gentalia. Is that bad?

  42. and the mood on 4/20 by SecureTheNet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to their page, under "Which moods are hot?" they list "high"

    http://ilps.science.uva.nl/MoodViews/Moodgrapher/? high

    Notice the sudden spike in the "high" mood on 4/20? I thought that was interesting.

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    1. Re:and the mood on 4/20 by Peyna · · Score: 1

      Notice the sudden spike in the "high" mood on 4/20? I thought that was interesting.

      Considering that probably 99% of those who listed their mood as "high" have probably never even seen marijuana before in their lives, I don't find it that interesting.

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    2. Re:and the mood on 4/20 by TheBracket · · Score: 1

      I noticed the sudden spike in "optimistic" on Tax Day (April 15th). I wonder if that's coincidence?

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  43. Corporate Email by wallior · · Score: 1

    Hope they don't run this algorithm on my corporate account. They will find out how drunk I am just to get through a day's work.

  44. Classification: Pop-AI by aldheorte · · Score: 1

    All these pop-AI things come down to one thing: keyword search counts. Create a bag of keywords, count the number of times they show up in some arbitrary (usually Web these days) search, and make an arbitrary determination of what each bag of keywords means. Then pass it off as some sort of special intelligent sensor or machine intelligence, add in some buzzword references to biological brain structures or psychological processes, and pretend you are some genius.

    But guess what? It's just a set of arbitrary keyword search counts and essentially arbitrarily meaningless. In most cases, just the data sampling side of things is rife with egregious statistical errors. In this case, it's even worse because they are essentially taking a search-space soft pitch ("mood labels") and just aggregating the counts.

  45. similar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://halfpasthuman.com/ has been doing similar for several years now with their "webbot" project. They use crawlers to check out what people are saying, the mood of the web, etc, and their own analysis software, then they have been doing geopolitical/economic and "other" (like upcoming maybe disasters, etc) predictions based on the results. They have been surprisingly..uhh..surprised. They have gotten better with each new crawl. It's a (reasonably priced) subscription service though to get the full reports.

    note: link URL also leads to speed reading/comprehension software. Two different products here, I am referring to the top of the page, the ALTA reports from each new crawl.

    I have no ties with them whatsoever, just it fits in the news category.

  46. self-selecting bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the other problem is a certain kind of person is a blogger and that's the kind of moods being read: someone who thinks the world cares about his/her emotional state, what he/she put up with from some store clerk, what ill-informed opinions he/she has farted out today with no relation to the known history of the planet, etc.

    if businesses tune themselves to these kind of people, there's no hope for the rest of us.

  47. Coming soon... by sharpestmarble · · Score: 1

    Emoti-bombing. Just like GoogleBombing, but for emotions on LiveJournal!

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  48. Neal Stephenson - Interface by xixax · · Score: 1

    While individual applications can vary in how good they are, or are not, the general area of research is an interesting one. Yeah, OK we can spot Emo kids angsting on LJ, but couple Mood Teller with some context and you start building something like what Neal Stepheson describes in Interface.For example, what it the mood of people when they are thinking (writing) about Iran? How about Apple's Boot Camp software?

    Of course there are a few non-trivial issues to solve like biase (people are more likely to blog about a topic when they feel strongly about it). But that's not likely to be much worse than telephone polls.

    Xix.

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  49. bloggers underwear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The answers to that just came in

    "Original colour unidentifiable due to excessive staining."

  50. And. by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 1

    Not everyone will use the same tag. Thus you get to come up with an (average) percentage of confidence. Then you can cross-correlate this against some words that occur in all the given samples, and have some sort of confidence metric about your measurement.

    From here, you might be surprised at the different kinds of trends you might find. A spike in the number of people who happen to be excited about the latest fansub of Naruto, for instance. Hm, I bet that means that episode is good.

    You might also be able to do longitudinal studies of the information, based on mood with respect to a specific event. Say, Katrina.

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  51. bloggers = wankers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But not as much as the people who read them.

    Oh wait, there's blogs outside LiveJournal/MySpace? Where people write about things other than themselves?

    My mistake.

  52. wow... by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1

    This is an extremely interesting story. I think they have some kind of dictionary setup that compares various words to a bunch of different moods, and then some calculation based on how many of each category of words shows up. So if there's a bunch of cuss words, for example, it'll figure people are pissed off.

  53. You're clearly a male geek... by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    If it is female you have exactly FA chance of ever understanding it...

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  54. Take that, algorithm ! by jfclavette · · Score: 1

    The next sentence is not true. The next sentence is not sarcasm. Software like this makes me happy since it is very useful.

  55. Been there, done that! - MoodTap.com by bennomatic · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Why didn't this story just point directly towards the Mood Tap web site?

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  56. Oh piss off by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

    Shoot all marketing arseholes. Is that opinionated enough for you?

  57. Duh ! by MarkKnopfler · · Score: 1

    So, this is what it does -- it counts a particular variety of tags on a particular blogging site and charts them. That makes this software so incisive ! Please move along....

  58. Horny to Depressed by slashmojo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thats interesting.. it shows a spike for 'horny' followed a few hours later by a spike for 'depressed' which I presume means all those horny people didn't get laid again..

  59. Which of my personas do you want to track? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Now, I don't have MPD, but I do have very different blogs for very different occasions. And I guess I'm not the only one who tries to spin here. Corps use the tool of a blog by far more aggressively than me, and they create moods rather than displaying one.

    So tracking those would not track the mood bloggers have, but the mood they'd like to create.

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  60. Moodgrapher by themusicgod1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what, like Moodgrapher? I don't understand what's so new?

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    1. Re:Moodgrapher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not "like" Moodgrapher. Moodgrapher is one of the Dutch group in question's MoodViews.

  61. I'm just going to have to be Happy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because someone just patented the Frowny - http://www.despair.com/demotivators/frownonthis.ht ml

    Seriously, how long before someone patents your emotions. Brave New World had nothing on this!

  62. Can someone by themusicgod1 · · Score: 1

    please explain to me how ROI and TCO got into this list?

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    1. Re:Can someone by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 0
      please explain to me how ROI and TCO got into this list?
      Not encountered it personally, but the annoyance probably comes from asshats using them out of context: Nope, I can't come to the bar after work, the TCO's too much. How's the Vikings' defensive ROI this year?
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  63. Definition of blog by DavidNWelton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Blog \Blog\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Blogged} (bl[o^]gd); p. pr. &
    n.

    1) A foul, smelly obstruction of the sewer pipes connected to a residence. For example, "We'd better call a plumber, this blog is really bad".

  64. 420 = slang for smoke pot by 2008 · · Score: 1
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  65. Return of the dotcom boom by ergean · · Score: 1

    WEB 2.0, BLOG, PODCAST, BLABLA BLA LAND - The Return Of The Dot Com BOOM!!!!

    Who the fuck gives a shit a about blogs? (Don't give me the ./ is one of them.)
    For me blogs are just junk.
    (Funny that you can't beat them without becoming one of them.)
    I would like to force them to put .blog. in their link and set my adblock so I'll never see one again.

  66. Livejournal Moodring by kria · · Score: 1

    There's a little gadget that skims the XML version of livejournal and examines the standard moods from all public posts. (You can type whatever you want into the mood box, but it disregards these custom moods.)

    Here it is, for which it's author will be eternally grateful for me posting, I'm sure.

    Anyway, I realize that it's not the same thing, but in my small deluded brain, I can dream that something I knew about was the inspiration.

  67. Re:Net zo nutteloos by albyrne5 · · Score: 1

    Hup Oranje!

  68. Re:Net zo nutteloos by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Het dagschotel is kaasballetjes met konkommersoep. Een pintsje AUB. Deze autobus reidt naar buiten dienst. Welkom bij Blokken.

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  69. from the three links away from the article by mapkinase · · Score: 1
    I visited one of their Moodgrapher pages.

    Moongrapher BTW is

    Moodgrapher plots the mood levels reported by LiveJournal users in their posts during the last days, updated every 10 minutes. Two numbers are reported by Moodgrapher: the percentage of posts reporting a certain mood (the dashed, black line below), and the "rate of change" of a mood -- the difference between the usual amount of posts with this mood and the amount in a given hour (this is the continuous red line below).


    What they are missing is a negative control. Sure I can easily see how Loved, Flirty or Lonely correlates with a Valentine day, but what about the control graphs that show "Agressiveness towards republicans" or "Cheesecake affection"?

    PS. I am surprised by the modded up dismissals of the post by /.ers. IMHO, this is an important sociological study.
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  70. Also see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the huge spike in "drunk" on 3/17. :-)

  71. This is why blogs are important by Dr.+Sp0ng · · Score: 1

    It's because of the blogosphere (as much as I hate that word). It's the fact that you can get an overview of the current thoughts and emotions of the entire human population (or at least a huge chunk of it, certainly well above the boundaries of "statistically significant").

  72. This program was run on MySpace... by Ingolfke · · Score: 1

    and apparently the Internet is flucuating between horny and pretty creepy.

  73. Re:Net zo nutteloos by Yaa+101 · · Score: 1

    lol...

  74. sounds like someone ripped off moodstats by naterkane · · Score: 1

    moodstats has been around for a few years. it's a really cool app put together by the fine folks at k10k.net

  75. No Confidence in Consumer Confidence by Zerbs · · Score: 1

    Personally, I don't have much confidence in consumer confidence reports as it is. If they want to use speculative results from blogs, they are going to probably make it worse. It's bad enough that they talk about consumer confidence on the news so much as it is.

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  76. Sounds like the Bush-Be-Gone Index by smagruder · · Score: 1

    I wrote a web-based mood tracker that looks at particular strings entered into blog and discussion board posts related to whether President Bush should be impeached or otherwise removed from office.

    Link to Bush-Be-Gone Index

    No matter your politics, I think how the index moves up and down depending on particular events is somewhat fascinating.

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  77. If these words were people... by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

    Actually, the blogosphere is clearly defined:
    "blogosphere" is the new buzz word that has replaced "information super highway." It's what idiots like to call a collection of "blogs," otherwise known as a tragedy.

    Maddox