I work as a proofreader, so that was actually painful to read. I've half a mind to mark it (you scored 92% lern2spell n00b) and email him corrections. And as for the ad links, someone please kill the cretin who thought of that one.
No, since there is no church of evolution and given that scientific theories being superseded is a normal part of science, should someone come up with a better idea it will, probably after a lot of bickering, be adopted. The Judeo-Christian religion however has held the same idea for several thousand years, and although sensible Christians believe that evolution is how God created life (there being no mention in Genesis of how long one of God's days actually is), there are plenty of nut-jobs willing to take the Bible completely literally and many people have been killed in the name of a misunderstanding of Genesis.
Can you provide any scientific basis for the claim that God put it there? If not then ID is not valid, no matter how you denigrate evolution, which no-one has ever claimed is the one true way that life came about on Earth, it's just the most likely explanation at the moment and may be superseded in the future.
I guess, although I obviously read it as the integration between the store and the player, since every mp3 player I've owned except the dirt cheap one I have now has come with software that offers integration with the player and so am at a loss to explain why that would be something particularly amazing about the iPod and iTunes in particular. I'm terribly sorry for my inexactitude but when I download from the Apple Incorporated iTunes Music Store, I tend to shorten it to iTunes, sorry I'll try to not to offend you by my sloppy language from now on. iTunes is not iTMS, iTunes is not iTMS ad nauseum.
If you use iTunes and download songs from the store then you are locked into that format for those songs, which will only play on an iPod and the handful of compatible players. WMA and AllOfMP3 have no relevance to this argument: WMA is no better or worse, just another bad idea and with the questionable legal status of AllOfMP3 and any others following their lead and the risk of them being crushed as part of a deal with Putin, I'd say you were pretty much locked into some kind of DRM unless, as you suggest, you buy CDs and rip them, which sort of renders the whole idea of online music stores a bit pointless since I might as well just order from Amazon and have something I'm pretty much free to use as I see fit within a day or two. You're right about MPEG-4 but you shoot yourself totally in the foot by saying that m4p is just a wrapper, as if that wasn't the whole point of my argument. M4p only plays in a very small number of players and as far as I know (although I'm sure you'll correct me) you can't get current mainstream music from iTunes in unencumbered AAC/m4a. This wasn't a problem before iTunes 6 since I was able to easily convert the songs to mp3; now this is no longer possible with any further tracks I buy, Apple don't get my money anymore. Just to make it clear though I think the iPod is a great piece of kit and that iTunes is an excellent service, it's the idiotic record companies wanting obstacles to be put in the way of paying customers and a normally progressive technology company going along with it that gets on my nerves.
That's right, blame the users, it couldn't be the fault of Microsoft's amazing software which as we all know has never ever had a bug or suffered from any really, really stupid design flaws. So repeat after me "it's the users' fault, Unix security used to suck too, it's because we're so popular" and keep your head right there in the sand.
What? m4p is an open standard that you can convert to mp3 with ease? Or were you referring to the oh-so-convenient method of burning it to a CD and then re-ripping as mp3 in order to remove the DRM. If Apple sends me a free CD-R after every 10 downloads and pays to recycle it afterwards I might consider such a wasteful procedure. Okay, I agree, you're not locked-in per se but the above is still an unnecessary inconvenience, one that I wouldn't have with an unencumbered mp3 and a bigger hassle than I had with JHymn (which, let's face it, is hardly a threat to the RIAA or Apple) until Apple broke it and lost me as a customer. Now I just do without since there doesn't seem to be a legal and convenient way for me to buy a song at a time. I might give Magnatune a try but I have no idea if I'll like their range or not. I do know that I like a lot of mainstream stuff but I won't put up with being treated like a potential criminal by people who want me to buy from them.
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Are you nuts? The history of the human race is full of zealotry winning a great many converts.
Ooh I can pay over the odds for a player just so I can be locked into a format that can't be played on anything else. Where do I sign:P. Actually I do have an iTunes account, and up until iTunes 6 broke JHymn they were getting my money. Now they aren't since apparently I'm not allowed to do what I like with stuff I've paid for.
I was a mainframer when PCs started to arrive in the corporate offices and I'm telling you that the killer business app wasn't Visicalc or MS Basic it was Extra - same functionality (and then some;)) as the proprietary green screen terminals at a fraction of the price. Once they had a foothold selling native software was easier. Like I said before there were and still are mainframe apps that never made it to DOS/Windows and no doubt there would be Win32-only apps left behind too. Also don't forget that Visicalc started on the Apple II and Apple never made much headway with businesses despite having far superior hardware and software than the IBM compatibles. Give businesses an OS that is significantly cheaper than Windows but can still run all the software those businesses depend on and you'll be trampled in the rush, or at least MS would have to change significantly to survive in a properly competitive market. OS/2 was more expensive than Windows 95 as PCs already came with it 'free' and that, to me, is a far more credible explanation than it failed because it could run everything Windows 95 could at the time Windows 95 was launched without crashing.
"Visual Basic, much like generic beer and America's Funniest Home Videos is an enabling technology for stupid people."
I wrote a few simple toys for my latest job in VBA and VBScript to help speed up my work and when my boss saw them she asked me to let the other people in the team have them too. These 'toys' now save probably 30 mins a day for each member of a 40 person team which is a pretty decent productivity improvement. The boss was so impressed by my 'stupidity' that I got a bonus and a promotion. I'd say your mindless arrogance makes you the stupid one.
For instance, I gave up on OS/2 when, while ordering a computer (an Aptiva 486) from IBM, I learned that having it with OS/2 instead of Windows was more expensive.
That kills your argument stone-dead. Who knows what would have happened had OS/2 been able to compete on a level playing field.
You won't migrate away from Windows to run Office slightly worse than you can do with the Windows that came pre installed (more or less for free) with your computer.
Windows isn't even remotely free for the majority of users, the corporate world, it's a very real business expense. How would you convince those users to switch to an OS that won't run the majority of their software (both in-house and vendor packages). You may have heard of TN3270. This is a protocol that allows a PC to simulate a 3270 screen and work with existing mainframe apps. Without this PCs would have found it harder getting traction with the major corps who are usually very resistant to change. However with TN3270 they didn't have to make any changes to the way they worked and saved a fortune using commodity hardware rather than the very expensive 3270 terminals. Didn't stop development of PC apps did it? Do you know why? Because once PCs had that penetration the market was there for native apps. Few mainframe apps got ported, a lot were just superseded. Like it or not Win32 is an de facto industry standard like TN3270 was before it and making it as easy as possible for your customer to migrate is a good idea. I also note that of the OSes you name above, only OS/2 had any Windows compatibility, yet they all failed trying to compete with Windows, which suggests that whatever Windows compatibility OS/2 had was largely irrelevant to its downfall. I'm waiting for you to tell me that Samba was a bad idea next, after all who'd want an server OS that can connect to all their Windows PCs more or less seamlessly and cost a lot less than Windows 2000/3 Server.
All those people who want to work in a corporate IT department where the vast majority of software development is done. In any case do you think the people who work on OSS stuff at Redhat, SUSE, IBM, Sun etc etc don't get paid?
Yes because Windows is marketed at the users who would know how to do this. Fixing IE would be a better idea or encouraging them to move away from it altogether to Opera or FF (haha I'd love MS to advise that). And don't get me started on MS Word, some of the bugs in 2002 are an absolute disgrace.
A large proportion of adware exists because until XP SP2 IE's default settings allowed any old website to download and install anything in the background. Anyone with half a brain could have seen that as a recipe for disaster. It's not the install base, it's the incompetence and the monoculture. I haven't had anything worse than a few tracking cookies since I started using FF and that's a fairly big target nowadays. Had MS not insisted on their own browser and email client in order to tie people to their platform then maybe the history of malware, and the resulting aggravation and expense, could have been different.
My god I'm so sick of that specious, idiotic argument. OS/2 failed for a number of reasons, none of which were the above mindless parroting from you. Name any OS in the last 10 years that has successfully competed with Microsoft on the desktop. OSX is the only one that has made any inroads and that's mainly because it runs on more expensive and less compatible machines and therefore isn't really a threat to MS. There are only two ways that any OS could take customers from Microsoft. These are: either deliver something earth-shatteringly brilliant that customers will no longer have any interest in running their Windows-only applications and will flock to your brave new world; or, and this is the strategy that has succeeded brilliantly in any number of other markets, you offer a similar thing at a cheaper price. I'd like to go for the former, however I don't live in an ivory tower and I know that it might not happen for another 10-15 years if ever. Linspire/Crossover/Cedega/WINE can already run many common Windows apps however, and while I agree with the sentiment that it sucks to do it this way, the reality of the situation is that one company has control of several technologies that many millions of people and businesses depend on. They don't have the option of rewriting their software from scratch just for it to do the same thing as before. Any migration path has to be easy, cheap and beneficial before anyone will consider it. How can any other PC OS offer that without being able to run Win32 binaries?
If you have respawning in a PVP MMORPG, you damn well better have an NPK time after death or you shouldn't be developing an MMORPG because you obviously can't even comprehend game mechanics at all. That's all I can say about the Roma Victor Devs.
That would explain the abject failure of World of Warcraft then. Now crucifixion of griefers I like, wonder if they could do it for real:)
Not quite rains CDs but PC mags have been giving FF away on coverdisks for quite some time. Also I know that your country is very backward but in my country we have things called IT fairs where you can get hold of stuff like FF on a CD. A true geek would get it via FTP in any case.
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I work as a proofreader, so that was actually painful to read. I've half a mind to mark it (you scored 92% lern2spell n00b) and email him corrections. And as for the ad links, someone please kill the cretin who thought of that one.
Conceded then ;)
You mean any more detrimental to consumers than they already are.
No, since there is no church of evolution and given that scientific theories being superseded is a normal part of science, should someone come up with a better idea it will, probably after a lot of bickering, be adopted. The Judeo-Christian religion however has held the same idea for several thousand years, and although sensible Christians believe that evolution is how God created life (there being no mention in Genesis of how long one of God's days actually is), there are plenty of nut-jobs willing to take the Bible completely literally and many people have been killed in the name of a misunderstanding of Genesis.
Can you provide any scientific basis for the claim that God put it there? If not then ID is not valid, no matter how you denigrate evolution, which no-one has ever claimed is the one true way that life came about on Earth, it's just the most likely explanation at the moment and may be superseded in the future.
Traders throughout the world discovered the origin of spices a long time ago.
No it was intended to prevent any other OS grabbing a share of the PC gaming market via OpenGL.
I guess, although I obviously read it as the integration between the store and the player, since every mp3 player I've owned except the dirt cheap one I have now has come with software that offers integration with the player and so am at a loss to explain why that would be something particularly amazing about the iPod and iTunes in particular.
I'm terribly sorry for my inexactitude but when I download from the Apple Incorporated iTunes Music Store, I tend to shorten it to iTunes, sorry I'll try to not to offend you by my sloppy language from now on. iTunes is not iTMS, iTunes is not iTMS ad nauseum.
As would I.
If you use iTunes and download songs from the store then you are locked into that format for those songs, which will only play on an iPod and the handful of compatible players. WMA and AllOfMP3 have no relevance to this argument: WMA is no better or worse, just another bad idea and with the questionable legal status of AllOfMP3 and any others following their lead and the risk of them being crushed as part of a deal with Putin, I'd say you were pretty much locked into some kind of DRM unless, as you suggest, you buy CDs and rip them, which sort of renders the whole idea of online music stores a bit pointless since I might as well just order from Amazon and have something I'm pretty much free to use as I see fit within a day or two.
You're right about MPEG-4 but you shoot yourself totally in the foot by saying that m4p is just a wrapper, as if that wasn't the whole point of my argument. M4p only plays in a very small number of players and as far as I know (although I'm sure you'll correct me) you can't get current mainstream music from iTunes in unencumbered AAC/m4a. This wasn't a problem before iTunes 6 since I was able to easily convert the songs to mp3; now this is no longer possible with any further tracks I buy, Apple don't get my money anymore.
Just to make it clear though I think the iPod is a great piece of kit and that iTunes is an excellent service, it's the idiotic record companies wanting obstacles to be put in the way of paying customers and a normally progressive technology company going along with it that gets on my nerves.
That's right, blame the users, it couldn't be the fault of Microsoft's amazing software which as we all know has never ever had a bug or suffered from any really, really stupid design flaws. So repeat after me "it's the users' fault, Unix security used to suck too, it's because we're so popular" and keep your head right there in the sand.
What? m4p is an open standard that you can convert to mp3 with ease? Or were you referring to the oh-so-convenient method of burning it to a CD and then re-ripping as mp3 in order to remove the DRM. If Apple sends me a free CD-R after every 10 downloads and pays to recycle it afterwards I might consider such a wasteful procedure.
Okay, I agree, you're not locked-in per se but the above is still an unnecessary inconvenience, one that I wouldn't have with an unencumbered mp3 and a bigger hassle than I had with JHymn (which, let's face it, is hardly a threat to the RIAA or Apple) until Apple broke it and lost me as a customer. Now I just do without since there doesn't seem to be a legal and convenient way for me to buy a song at a time. I might give Magnatune a try but I have no idea if I'll like their range or not. I do know that I like a lot of mainstream stuff but I won't put up with being treated like a potential criminal by people who want me to buy from them.
Are you nuts? The history of the human race is full of zealotry winning a great many converts.
Ooh I can pay over the odds for a player just so I can be locked into a format that can't be played on anything else. Where do I sign :P.
Actually I do have an iTunes account, and up until iTunes 6 broke JHymn they were getting my money. Now they aren't since apparently I'm not allowed to do what I like with stuff I've paid for.
I was a mainframer when PCs started to arrive in the corporate offices and I'm telling you that the killer business app wasn't Visicalc or MS Basic it was Extra - same functionality (and then some ;)) as the proprietary green screen terminals at a fraction of the price. Once they had a foothold selling native software was easier. Like I said before there were and still are mainframe apps that never made it to DOS/Windows and no doubt there would be Win32-only apps left behind too. Also don't forget that Visicalc started on the Apple II and Apple never made much headway with businesses despite having far superior hardware and software than the IBM compatibles.
Give businesses an OS that is significantly cheaper than Windows but can still run all the software those businesses depend on and you'll be trampled in the rush, or at least MS would have to change significantly to survive in a properly competitive market. OS/2 was more expensive than Windows 95 as PCs already came with it 'free' and that, to me, is a far more credible explanation than it failed because it could run everything Windows 95 could at the time Windows 95 was launched without crashing.
"Visual Basic, much like generic beer and America's Funniest Home Videos is an enabling technology for stupid people."
I wrote a few simple toys for my latest job in VBA and VBScript to help speed up my work and when my boss saw them she asked me to let the other people in the team have them too. These 'toys' now save probably 30 mins a day for each member of a 40 person team which is a pretty decent productivity improvement. The boss was so impressed by my 'stupidity' that I got a bonus and a promotion. I'd say your mindless arrogance makes you the stupid one.
For instance, I gave up on OS/2 when, while ordering a computer (an Aptiva 486) from IBM, I learned that having it with OS/2 instead of Windows was more expensive.
That kills your argument stone-dead. Who knows what would have happened had OS/2 been able to compete on a level playing field.
You won't migrate away from Windows to run Office slightly worse than you can do with the Windows that came pre installed (more or less for free) with your computer.
Windows isn't even remotely free for the majority of users, the corporate world, it's a very real business expense. How would you convince those users to switch to an OS that won't run the majority of their software (both in-house and vendor packages).
You may have heard of TN3270. This is a protocol that allows a PC to simulate a 3270 screen and work with existing mainframe apps. Without this PCs would have found it harder getting traction with the major corps who are usually very resistant to change. However with TN3270 they didn't have to make any changes to the way they worked and saved a fortune using commodity hardware rather than the very expensive 3270 terminals. Didn't stop development of PC apps did it? Do you know why? Because once PCs had that penetration the market was there for native apps. Few mainframe apps got ported, a lot were just superseded.
Like it or not Win32 is an de facto industry standard like TN3270 was before it and making it as easy as possible for your customer to migrate is a good idea.
I also note that of the OSes you name above, only OS/2 had any Windows compatibility, yet they all failed trying to compete with Windows, which suggests that whatever Windows compatibility OS/2 had was largely irrelevant to its downfall.
I'm waiting for you to tell me that Samba was a bad idea next, after all who'd want an server OS that can connect to all their Windows PCs more or less seamlessly and cost a lot less than Windows 2000/3 Server.
Simple, you can't upgrade a console for easier pwnage in pvpomgl2pnoob online.
All those people who want to work in a corporate IT department where the vast majority of software development is done. In any case do you think the people who work on OSS stuff at Redhat, SUSE, IBM, Sun etc etc don't get paid?
Looking at his use of grammar I'd say English isn't his first language and he still has better grammar and spelling than most of the people on here.
Yes because Windows is marketed at the users who would know how to do this. Fixing IE would be a better idea or encouraging them to move away from it altogether to Opera or FF (haha I'd love MS to advise that).
And don't get me started on MS Word, some of the bugs in 2002 are an absolute disgrace.
A large proportion of adware exists because until XP SP2 IE's default settings allowed any old website to download and install anything in the background. Anyone with half a brain could have seen that as a recipe for disaster.
It's not the install base, it's the incompetence and the monoculture. I haven't had anything worse than a few tracking cookies since I started using FF and that's a fairly big target nowadays.
Had MS not insisted on their own browser and email client in order to tie people to their platform then maybe the history of malware, and the resulting aggravation and expense, could have been different.
My god I'm so sick of that specious, idiotic argument. OS/2 failed for a number of reasons, none of which were the above mindless parroting from you. Name any OS in the last 10 years that has successfully competed with Microsoft on the desktop. OSX is the only one that has made any inroads and that's mainly because it runs on more expensive and less compatible machines and therefore isn't really a threat to MS.
There are only two ways that any OS could take customers from Microsoft. These are: either deliver something earth-shatteringly brilliant that customers will no longer have any interest in running their Windows-only applications and will flock to your brave new world; or, and this is the strategy that has succeeded brilliantly in any number of other markets, you offer a similar thing at a cheaper price.
I'd like to go for the former, however I don't live in an ivory tower and I know that it might not happen for another 10-15 years if ever.
Linspire/Crossover/Cedega/WINE can already run many common Windows apps however, and while I agree with the sentiment that it sucks to do it this way, the reality of the situation is that one company has control of several technologies that many millions of people and businesses depend on. They don't have the option of rewriting their software from scratch just for it to do the same thing as before. Any migration path has to be easy, cheap and beneficial before anyone will consider it. How can any other PC OS offer that without being able to run Win32 binaries?
If you have respawning in a PVP MMORPG, you damn well better have an NPK time after death or you shouldn't be developing an MMORPG because you obviously can't even comprehend game mechanics at all. That's all I can say about the Roma Victor Devs.
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That would explain the abject failure of World of Warcraft then. Now crucifixion of griefers I like, wonder if they could do it for real
Not quite rains CDs but PC mags have been giving FF away on coverdisks for quite some time. Also I know that your country is very backward but in my country we have things called IT fairs where you can get hold of stuff like FF on a CD. A true geek would get it via FTP in any case.