I'm not responsible for the decision to use Microsoft products so sneering at me is kind of pointless.
If you have a magical low cost way of switching to OSS feel free to share. If you don't then try to realise that just because it works for you doesn't mean that it's a good fit for everyone.
Describing people as stupid for not spending large amounts of money for hard to justify benefits doesn't win the argument, providing a way to migrate does. So far there isn't one.
It's not limited to my point of view but that of the current business that I work for where using Microsoft Office isn't "stupid" but the only option given the amount of work that would be required to convert Word templates and Excel spreadsheet to work with LO. We present data from SQL Server in Excel spreadsheetswhich looks possible in Calc but requires us to set up ODBC connections for each database and each user's machine. It saves a great deal of development time for us as the users generally just want to see the data in a simple format. I'm sure that LO is fine for some uses but it's not a drop in replacement for MSO.
I'm not a troll. I'm a disappointed Linux user. I first installed Red Hat Linux in 1999 in the days where we were stuck with the appallingly buggy Netscape 4.7 and Firefox was only a distant dream. I used it almost exclusively for years. I set up my first wireless router using it long before you could buy them cheaply on Amazon. I used to love tinkering with it and it was streets ahead of the pathetic mess that was Win9x.
I gradually got turned off as it didn't seem to be improving as a desktop while Microsoft had fixed the worst of its flaws. I tried it again and again over the next 10 years to find that it had stood still or gone backwards. Wi-Fi seemed to be a particular problem.
I decided that I'd give it another chance this weekend and installed Ubuntu 16.04. At first I was impressed. All my hardware was detected and it installed really quickly. Everything looked really slick. Then I decided to install Chrome to see how Netflix runs.
Fuck sake. I double clicked on the icon, it opened the software manager and I clicked Install. Nothing happened. Clicked it again and nothing. That is garbage. I dropped to the command line and spent a while with really unhelpful circular dependency error messages before I figured out why it wasn't working. The install on Windows is just a double click and responding to a couple of dialog boxes. You may call me a moron or a troll but I'll post the console output if you want and defy you to tell me how that isn't really poor.
The software manager not giving any indication of success or failure is terrible and this has been my experience of a lot of OSS software. There seems to be this mentality that if you slap a GUI on a command line process that makes it user friendly when there's a lot more to it than that.
The fact that people would rather pay a fortune to Apple than use something that doesn't cost anything is very telling.
TIL that offering healthcare without a copay and higher education without crippling debt at the end of it is the same as massacring millions, conquering half of Europe and persecuting dissidents.
In other words everyone's use case is identical to yours and moving to LO doesn't require any changes to business processes, templates, macros, complex formulas and graphs or anything else because it's 100% compatible with MSO.
Or, ya know, informing Reddit about their shitty security via one of the many messaging or social media platforms instead of being a dick and causing unnecessary work for someone.
Syriza and Podemos are not right wing. Both sides are seeing gains at the expense of the mainstream because the mainstream is increasingly dominated by career politicians who know a lot about how to get elected but not much else.
I was only ever a casual user and stopped after a very bad experience caused severe anxiety attacks for months. I'm sorry that doesn't fit your narrative but that doesn't stop it being true.
Last year I lost 40 pounds. It took me 3 months and I lost weight almost every week. Where was the starvation mode that prevented me losing weight as described above?
No it doesn't. I'm a yoyo dieter but my body has never gone into starvation mode. I've never had trouble losing the weight it's keeping it off but starvation mode is something I've never encountered in the 11 years since I started.
When I diet weight comes off. In the first week I lose 5-7 pounds and then settle into a steady 1-3 pounds a week. Why doesn't my body go into starvation mode?
I bet if righties looked back at the history of their respective countries they'd see a lot of formerly poor people helped out by being given a helping hand, whether by government our charity or just by an employee who wasn't a robber baron.
Even if that's all it is, that doesn't explain why there hasn't been a mass exodus to Linux in the corporate world. Corporations love free but yet there's very little take up.
Steam is meaningless if you can't play the games you want to play. I'm glad that Linux has a decent gaming environment finally but there are many games that aren't on Steam and won't run under WINE.
I didn't ever say Linux is worthless, I said it's not a suitable replacement for Windows. WINE is not good enough. It could've been but people would rather waffle on about OS/2 instead of giving people the ability to get away from Windows with the first step being able to run what they want to run rather than unfamiliar and/or inferior alternatives.
Take advantage of Microsoft's repeated mistakes rather than sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "M$ shill" whenever anyone suggests that all is not well.
There are thousands of highly specialised applications on Windows. Some people are still on XP because Microsoft cut them loose and they can't run applications and devices their organisations depend pm on the newer Windows. How is something that isn't compatible at all going to do? The facts are still that despite Microsoft's repeated incompetence Linux is nowhere.
Is it even at 1%? What's stopping it? Apple have managed to increase their market share even though their hardware is only available at very high prices. I've used Linux on and off since 1998 and when I first came across it it was light years ahead of Windows. Instead of building on that though there were endless holy wars and idiocy about how the market would prevail and yet here we are 18 years later and despite all the fuck ups that Microsoft have made in those years Linux still has the same market share.
If anyone asks me about Linux I tell them the truth. It won't run your software and some of your hardware may not work either. When I say this on somewhere like here I get denial and abuse. Do you think anyone would feel like switching after reading your tantrum? How about fixing it?
Microsoft are handing Linux another golden opportunity to get people away from Windows with Windows 10 spyware edition. Where's the compatibility layer that would allow people to move easily? Nowhere for drivers and unreliable for software.
I expect the ball to be dropped again though like it repeatedly has been in the past and no amount of shouting from people like you will change that.
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I'm not responsible for the decision to use Microsoft products so sneering at me is kind of pointless.
If you have a magical low cost way of switching to OSS feel free to share. If you don't then try to realise that just because it works for you doesn't mean that it's a good fit for everyone.
Describing people as stupid for not spending large amounts of money for hard to justify benefits doesn't win the argument, providing a way to migrate does. So far there isn't one.
'I' didn't do anything but that is the reason why my org and many others haven't migrated. It will cost too much to move.
It's not limited to my point of view but that of the current business that I work for where using Microsoft Office isn't "stupid" but the only option given the amount of work that would be required to convert Word templates and Excel spreadsheet to work with LO. We present data from SQL Server in Excel spreadsheetswhich looks possible in Calc but requires us to set up ODBC connections for each database and each user's machine. It saves a great deal of development time for us as the users generally just want to see the data in a simple format. I'm sure that LO is fine for some uses but it's not a drop in replacement for MSO.
I'm not a troll. I'm a disappointed Linux user. I first installed Red Hat Linux in 1999 in the days where we were stuck with the appallingly buggy Netscape 4.7 and Firefox was only a distant dream. I used it almost exclusively for years. I set up my first wireless router using it long before you could buy them cheaply on Amazon. I used to love tinkering with it and it was streets ahead of the pathetic mess that was Win9x.
I gradually got turned off as it didn't seem to be improving as a desktop while Microsoft had fixed the worst of its flaws. I tried it again and again over the next 10 years to find that it had stood still or gone backwards. Wi-Fi seemed to be a particular problem.
I decided that I'd give it another chance this weekend and installed Ubuntu 16.04. At first I was impressed. All my hardware was detected and it installed really quickly. Everything looked really slick. Then I decided to install Chrome to see how Netflix runs.
Fuck sake. I double clicked on the icon, it opened the software manager and I clicked Install. Nothing happened. Clicked it again and nothing. That is garbage. I dropped to the command line and spent a while with really unhelpful circular dependency error messages before I figured out why it wasn't working. The install on Windows is just a double click and responding to a couple of dialog boxes. You may call me a moron or a troll but I'll post the console output if you want and defy you to tell me how that isn't really poor.
The software manager not giving any indication of success or failure is terrible and this has been my experience of a lot of OSS software. There seems to be this mentality that if you slap a GUI on a command line process that makes it user friendly when there's a lot more to it than that.
The fact that people would rather pay a fortune to Apple than use something that doesn't cost anything is very telling.
TIL that offering healthcare without a copay and higher education without crippling debt at the end of it is the same as massacring millions, conquering half of Europe and persecuting dissidents.
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One day an OSS zealot will admit that a lot of the software isn't up to the job. Then the universe will implode.
In other words everyone's use case is identical to yours and moving to LO doesn't require any changes to business processes, templates, macros, complex formulas and graphs or anything else because it's 100% compatible with MSO.
There is still a local version. Microsoft aren't about to kill the market that keeps them afloat.
Nope but then I'm not asserting that weak governments are a good thing.
Or, ya know, informing Reddit about their shitty security via one of the many messaging or social media platforms instead of being a dick and causing unnecessary work for someone.
Syriza and Podemos are not right wing. Both sides are seeing gains at the expense of the mainstream because the mainstream is increasingly dominated by career politicians who know a lot about how to get elected but not much else.
There are plenty of countries where the government provides minimal services. I'm sure they're all much nicer places to live than the US.
Yeah he's Josef Stalin and is going to force you to have healthcare without a copay. The monster!
I was only ever a casual user and stopped after a very bad experience caused severe anxiety attacks for months. I'm sorry that doesn't fit your narrative but that doesn't stop it being true.
Last year I lost 40 pounds. It took me 3 months and I lost weight almost every week. Where was the starvation mode that prevented me losing weight as described above?
And that makes him different to most politicians how?
No it doesn't. I'm a yoyo dieter but my body has never gone into starvation mode. I've never had trouble losing the weight it's keeping it off but starvation mode is something I've never encountered in the 11 years since I started.
When I diet weight comes off. In the first week I lose 5-7 pounds and then settle into a steady 1-3 pounds a week. Why doesn't my body go into starvation mode?
Pot makes me horrendously paranoid. I must be unique.
I bet if righties looked back at the history of their respective countries they'd see a lot of formerly poor people helped out by being given a helping hand, whether by government our charity or just by an employee who wasn't a robber baron.
It would be nice if that was true but it isn't.
Even if that's all it is, that doesn't explain why there hasn't been a mass exodus to Linux in the corporate world. Corporations love free but yet there's very little take up.
Steam is meaningless if you can't play the games you want to play. I'm glad that Linux has a decent gaming environment finally but there are many games that aren't on Steam and won't run under WINE.
I didn't ever say Linux is worthless, I said it's not a suitable replacement for Windows. WINE is not good enough. It could've been but people would rather waffle on about OS/2 instead of giving people the ability to get away from Windows with the first step being able to run what they want to run rather than unfamiliar and/or inferior alternatives.
Take advantage of Microsoft's repeated mistakes rather than sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "M$ shill" whenever anyone suggests that all is not well.
There are thousands of highly specialised applications on Windows. Some people are still on XP because Microsoft cut them loose and they can't run applications and devices their organisations depend pm on the newer Windows. How is something that isn't compatible at all going to do? The facts are still that despite Microsoft's repeated incompetence Linux is nowhere.
Is it even at 1%? What's stopping it? Apple have managed to increase their market share even though their hardware is only available at very high prices. I've used Linux on and off since 1998 and when I first came across it it was light years ahead of Windows. Instead of building on that though there were endless holy wars and idiocy about how the market would prevail and yet here we are 18 years later and despite all the fuck ups that Microsoft have made in those years Linux still has the same market share.
If anyone asks me about Linux I tell them the truth. It won't run your software and some of your hardware may not work either. When I say this on somewhere like here I get denial and abuse. Do you think anyone would feel like switching after reading your tantrum? How about fixing it?
Microsoft are handing Linux another golden opportunity to get people away from Windows with Windows 10 spyware edition. Where's the compatibility layer that would allow people to move easily? Nowhere for drivers and unreliable for software.
I expect the ball to be dropped again though like it repeatedly has been in the past and no amount of shouting from people like you will change that.