Carriers in the United States are required to support e911 customer-location reporting. With the switch to LTE, this means you cannot do tower-based aGPS location to satisfy this reporting. All VoLTE implementations are VoIP stacks that need external pieces to handle geolocation for emergency services.
As a result, only phones with a carrier-compatible VoLTE stack are able to function to e911 requirements. Carriers have been using this to lock out "uncertified" devices -- the argument being that "your phone can't do our VoLTE e911 solution, so we can't let you talk on our LTE bandwidth."
I haven't logged in in years. I logged in to post this because I feel strongly about it.
The freshmeat/freecode website was invaluable to me for many years. It died, and I would love to have it back -- preferably just the data, so can add my own API and keep it up to date. The 'trove' system was itself a great idea and there's nothing that stepped in to replace it.
The world's only getting bigger, and we are going to need more tools to navigate. Opening up this dataset would go a long way toward helping us build them.
You either get SIGN IN WITH FACEBOOK, which means you turn all your data over to some retarded megacorporation, or you get SIGN IN WITH SHIBBOLETH, which means you get to spend six years wading through XML and Tomcat stack traces.
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses (x) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks ( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it (x) Users of email will not put up with it ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it ( ) The police will not put up with it ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers (x) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once (x) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it (x) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email (x) Open relays in foreign countries ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses (x) Asshats ( ) Jurisdictional problems ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP (x) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email (x) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes (x) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches (x) Extreme profitability of spam (x) Joe jobs and/or identity theft ( ) Technically illiterate politicians (x) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers (x) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering ( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation ( ) Blacklists suck (x) Whitelists suck ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks (x) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually ( ) Sending email should be free ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers? ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome ( ) I don't want the government reading my email ( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work. ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
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Access owns PalmOS, Access owns BeOS, WebOS was a failure, and it's a damn shame, but Palm hasn't done anything worthwhile since the Treo 650. I loved my Treos, and I loved the Kyocera 6035 I had before them, but the only value Palm provides these days is nostalgia.
This guy's worried about "narrowing the ways in which developers think about and write networked applications" in a world where people are reinventing wall(1) as twitter, IRC as friendfeed, and other web 2.0 'innovations.' You want to widen developers' thinking about networking? Leave sockets alone and close off port 80.
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What, Worf and Tuvok aren't in the running?
It's because they're black, right? You leave Star Trek out of your racist agenda.
Seriously, you remember those classics because they were good. Science fiction is about pushing boundaries to begin with, so their interest in the genre shouldn't be rewarded with mindless McCafferyesque drivel. Take them to the sort of public library that sells old books for a dime, or the sort of bookstore that has shelves piled high with beat-up paperbacks. Give them each a maximum budget ($10.00 goes a long way at $0.75 per book) and let them browse around and pick the books they want. Give them a solid hour or two to wander the stacks. If they want crap like Piers Anthony, they'll pick it out themselves. If they feel like they're ready for Thomas Pynchon*, you should be proud, not worried. Nothing in a book is going to ruin your kids unless you're unwilling to talk about it with them. Make sure they let you scan the pile before they hit the checkout register, so you can weed out The Joy of Sex and other stuff that worries you.
Kids won't read books they're not ready for. When I was little I tried to read Bonfire of the Vanities and so much of the book was going over my head I threw it in a closet and forgot about it. Regardless, the whole point of science fiction is expanding your horizons, so I don't see the point in limiting them. You should be reading the books they're reading too, so that if they come to you with questions you'll have the context, and you'll have the opportunity to give them guidance should you see something in the book that concerns you.
I'm a parent too, and I think we should be acting as guides, not censors.
* - on second thought, maybe not so much with the Gravity's Rainbow. They won't appreciate that book until their middle teens.
The lure of zero-cost, but DRM-locked, proprietary textbooks.
You're saying that in order to save money on textbooks, they're going to decide to pay the Microsoft tax? Unlikely. This isn't coporate America we're talking about. These are underfunded governments. When choosing between "pay for the hard ware and our software and we'll give you the texts free" and "pay for the hardware and all of the software is free and so are the textbooks," they're going to choose the one that doesn't require nonexistent money.
It's my duty - and that of others who care about freedom - to tell such educational bodies that they're harming their own people, and why.
By all means, inform. But inform them of the truth -- tell them what can happen if they deal with closed software and encumbered texts. Claiming that OLPC is going to go Microsoftian is misinformation, because you have no data on which to base that claim. OLPC has not shipped a single MS product, the textbooks and software they ship are free and open, and when Nick Negroponte said he wants to port Sugar to other platforms you immediately assumed they were going to ship XO laptops with Windows. That's a non-sequitur -- and there's a difference between warning against a path and claiming that path is already being followed.
You think they're just going to be able to boot an installation system and run it? It takes just a little firmware tweak to make that system boot only signed binaries - and we won't have the signing key.
We don't? Have you checked?
And even if they change keys and try to lock us out of running OS-of-choice on the hardware -- well, such a security model is not infallible. Bitfrost is strong enough to prevent theft of an XO for casual resale; it's not strong enough to withstand a determined open-source developer. But in this case, it's also irrelevant, as there is no "EULA" or other "contract" preventing a change of OS. Microsoft doesn't have a magic wand that will make OpenFirmware inaccessible.
Trust me, the OLPC support gang has been following the plot. It's important to remember that Negroponte is a visionary -- not just as a label meaning "he comes up with Big Ideas," either. He just looks at everything that way, with a long-term worldview and a high-altitude perspective. It leads to scuffles like this between the head-shed and his field commanders, if that makes sense.
Plenty of people send him e-mail, and even us "little guys" get responses. Another great person there is their Technology Manager, Kim Quirk [kim at laptop dot o r g].
I also don't understand your "Microsoft gamed the ISO for OOXML, therefore OLPC is next" rhetoric. The ISO is a flawed quasi-democratic construct, and Microsoft beat them with money. OLPC is a corporate, not-for-profit entity. Are you suggesting they'll be paid to port Windows to the XO-1? Somehow that Sugar will be suddenly close-sourced? The whole point of the GPL and licenses like it is to prevent exactly what you're describing. Even if Microsoft produces a DRM-encumbered operating system for the XO-1, what makes you think a country will choose it over the freely-available Sugar-on-Fedora that the XO currently runs? Furthermore, and more to the point, if an educational body does choose a closed MS platform over a FOSS platform, isn't that their right? If they don't make such mistakes, how will they learn?:) And when the DRM becomes unbearable, Sugar will still be there, still running on Fedora -- and an easy migration destination, if they've spent a year or so running Sugar on Windows.
I'm a support volunteer for OLPC. I'm not officially affiliated with them, but I've been volunteering for them since last year.
You're misrepresenting the project. I am not accusing you of making disingenuous posts, but I suspect you're either underinformed or you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. Yes, the XO-1 laptop is a wonderful e-book platform. However, you don't need most of the stuff it comes with on an e-book reader. For instance, you don't need a webcam to read a book. The fact is, textbooks are one small part of the ideas that constitute Sugar, which is based on constructivist education practices.
I'm sure you've heard the "it's not a laptop project, it's an education project" quote a million times. Well, it's not an e-book project either. It's an education project, and reading isn't the only way kids learn. We're not talking about the sort of education we receive here in the States, where we listen to an orator and take notes. It's self-directed. The XO-1 is a learning and exploration platform.
As to Microsoft, I have been assured by higher-ups at OLPC that they're not going to devote any resources to porting Sugar to Windows, or Windows to the XO-1. They just don't have the resources; they're too busy deployinglaptops. Negroponte's point is that if someone wants to get it done, OLPC shouldn't stand in their way, which is entirely different from "let's drop linux." He's made other comments in the past about how Firefox wouldn't have gained the marketshare it has if it weren't for Windows. Likewise, a Sugar that is platform-ambivalent would rapidly gain mindshare in the educational world.
Sugar is not OLPC. OLPC is not the XO-1. Microsoft doesn't control any of those three things, and I doubt they will. Hell, in current builds, Sugar doesn't even start without NetworkManager, which isn't exactly Windows-compatible software.
You're a luminary in the FOSS world, and a geek hero. I'm sure you know that. I hope you're also aware when you start forecasting things based on insufficient information, a lot of people just take your word for it. I suggest you contact OLPC with your concerns, so they can be suitably allayed.
1. Java.....20.5% - runtime written in C 2. C........14.7% - duh 3. VB.......11.6% - who cares 4. PHP......10.3% - written in C++ 5. C++.......9.9% - duh 6. Perl......5.9% - written in C 7. Python....4.5% - written in C 8. C#........3.8% - who cares 9. Ruby......2.9% - written in C 10. Delphi...2.7% - no idea
...somehow I doubt C or C++ are going anywhere. The good news is if they DO die at least they'll take PHP with them.
It is now clear that the coconut hordes are being controlled from an underground base in Cydonia - which is an unusual area of Mars featuring five sided pyramids and a large formation resembling a human face. Cydonian civilisation once flourished on Mars many millions of years ago, but we do not know why it died out, or what the connection is with the latest coconut activity there. Whatever the explanation we must send an expedition to Cydonia. This is the only way that we can defeat the coconuts. We must destroy the controlling master 'brain'. We will need an Avenger craft equipped with the most awesome destructive power at our disposal. There is nothing more we can learn here - we must await the outcome of the Cydonian assault.
GMail requires you to authenticate with their SMTP servers to send mail. His choices were to include the account password, implement his own SMTP server and build it into the program, or use an open SMTP server. That last will often get your mail dropped as spam. The second one would have been better-secured, but the guy was obviously dumb enough to include a phishing function in a backup program, so it's obvious why he went with option number one.
I guess you have to be pretty leet to do "yum install opera." I got slackware up on mine. Freelikegnu got ubuntu running on his. There's a guy on IRC who put a tiny usb GPS dongle inside the thing, soldered to the mainboard. These are hacks. "yum install opera" is not.
OLPC is not using any resources assisting Microsoft. Microsoft is not paying OLPC. XO developers are still working on the OLPC's Fedora-based distribution exclusively.
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Carriers in the United States are required to support e911 customer-location reporting. With the switch to LTE, this means you cannot do tower-based aGPS location to satisfy this reporting. All VoLTE implementations are VoIP stacks that need external pieces to handle geolocation for emergency services.
As a result, only phones with a carrier-compatible VoLTE stack are able to function to e911 requirements. Carriers have been using this to lock out "uncertified" devices -- the argument being that "your phone can't do our VoLTE e911 solution, so we can't let you talk on our LTE bandwidth."
I haven't logged in in years. I logged in to post this because I feel strongly about it.
The freshmeat/freecode website was invaluable to me for many years. It died, and I would love to have it back -- preferably just the data, so can add my own API and keep it up to date. The 'trove' system was itself a great idea and there's nothing that stepped in to replace it.
The world's only getting bigger, and we are going to need more tools to navigate. Opening up this dataset would go a long way toward helping us build them.
XMPP would like to have a word with you.
You either get SIGN IN WITH FACEBOOK, which means you turn all your data over to some retarded megacorporation, or you get SIGN IN WITH SHIBBOLETH, which means you get to spend six years wading through XML and Tomcat stack traces.
50% of your body hasn't wasted away by the time you turn 35. You're lucky if the opposite doesn't happen.
Your post advocates a
(x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
(x) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
(x) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
(x) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
(x) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
(x) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
(x) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
(x) Asshats
( ) Jurisdictional problems
( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
(x) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
(x) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
(x) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
(x) Extreme profitability of spam
(x) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
( ) Technically illiterate politicians
(x) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
(x) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
(x) Whitelists suck
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
(x) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Sending email should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government reading my email
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!
or can I just feed them directly to farmville animals
Not even apple thinks xserves are worth a shit
I freaking knew it
Access owns PalmOS, Access owns BeOS, WebOS was a failure, and it's a damn shame, but Palm hasn't done anything worthwhile since the Treo 650. I loved my Treos, and I loved the Kyocera 6035 I had before them, but the only value Palm provides these days is nostalgia.
Does it still send unknown encrypted data back to google at will?
Thanks, that's all I need to know about this browser.
This is artificially recycled urine and sweat, you twit.
This guy's worried about "narrowing the ways in which developers think about and write networked applications" in a world where people are reinventing wall(1) as twitter, IRC as friendfeed, and other web 2.0 'innovations.' You want to widen developers' thinking about networking? Leave sockets alone and close off port 80.
What, Worf and Tuvok aren't in the running?
It's because they're black, right? You leave Star Trek out of your racist agenda.
Seriously, you remember those classics because they were good. Science fiction is about pushing boundaries to begin with, so their interest in the genre shouldn't be rewarded with mindless McCafferyesque drivel. Take them to the sort of public library that sells old books for a dime, or the sort of bookstore that has shelves piled high with beat-up paperbacks. Give them each a maximum budget ($10.00 goes a long way at $0.75 per book) and let them browse around and pick the books they want. Give them a solid hour or two to wander the stacks. If they want crap like Piers Anthony, they'll pick it out themselves. If they feel like they're ready for Thomas Pynchon*, you should be proud, not worried. Nothing in a book is going to ruin your kids unless you're unwilling to talk about it with them. Make sure they let you scan the pile before they hit the checkout register, so you can weed out The Joy of Sex and other stuff that worries you.
Kids won't read books they're not ready for. When I was little I tried to read Bonfire of the Vanities and so much of the book was going over my head I threw it in a closet and forgot about it. Regardless, the whole point of science fiction is expanding your horizons, so I don't see the point in limiting them. You should be reading the books they're reading too, so that if they come to you with questions you'll have the context, and you'll have the opportunity to give them guidance should you see something in the book that concerns you.
I'm a parent too, and I think we should be acting as guides, not censors.
* - on second thought, maybe not so much with the Gravity's Rainbow. They won't appreciate that book until their middle teens.
And that's why I use it.
Incidentally, "taunting" is not the same word as "touting."
Trust me, the OLPC support gang has been following the plot. It's important to remember that Negroponte is a visionary -- not just as a label meaning "he comes up with Big Ideas," either. He just looks at everything that way, with a long-term worldview and a high-altitude perspective. It leads to scuffles like this between the head-shed and his field commanders, if that makes sense. Plenty of people send him e-mail, and even us "little guys" get responses. Another great person there is their Technology Manager, Kim Quirk [kim at laptop dot o r g]. I also don't understand your "Microsoft gamed the ISO for OOXML, therefore OLPC is next" rhetoric. The ISO is a flawed quasi-democratic construct, and Microsoft beat them with money. OLPC is a corporate, not-for-profit entity. Are you suggesting they'll be paid to port Windows to the XO-1? Somehow that Sugar will be suddenly close-sourced? The whole point of the GPL and licenses like it is to prevent exactly what you're describing. Even if Microsoft produces a DRM-encumbered operating system for the XO-1, what makes you think a country will choose it over the freely-available Sugar-on-Fedora that the XO currently runs? Furthermore, and more to the point, if an educational body does choose a closed MS platform over a FOSS platform, isn't that their right? If they don't make such mistakes, how will they learn? :) And when the DRM becomes unbearable, Sugar will still be there, still running on Fedora -- and an easy migration destination, if they've spent a year or so running Sugar on Windows.
Hi Bruce,
I'm a support volunteer for OLPC. I'm not officially affiliated with them, but I've been volunteering for them since last year.
You're misrepresenting the project. I am not accusing you of making disingenuous posts, but I suspect you're either underinformed or you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. Yes, the XO-1 laptop is a wonderful e-book platform. However, you don't need most of the stuff it comes with on an e-book reader. For instance, you don't need a webcam to read a book. The fact is, textbooks are one small part of the ideas that constitute Sugar, which is based on constructivist education practices.
I'm sure you've heard the "it's not a laptop project, it's an education project" quote a million times. Well, it's not an e-book project either. It's an education project, and reading isn't the only way kids learn. We're not talking about the sort of education we receive here in the States, where we listen to an orator and take notes. It's self-directed. The XO-1 is a learning and exploration platform.
As to Microsoft, I have been assured by higher-ups at OLPC that they're not going to devote any resources to porting Sugar to Windows, or Windows to the XO-1. They just don't have the resources; they're too busy deploying laptops. Negroponte's point is that if someone wants to get it done, OLPC shouldn't stand in their way, which is entirely different from "let's drop linux." He's made other comments in the past about how Firefox wouldn't have gained the marketshare it has if it weren't for Windows. Likewise, a Sugar that is platform-ambivalent would rapidly gain mindshare in the educational world.
Sugar is not OLPC. OLPC is not the XO-1. Microsoft doesn't control any of those three things, and I doubt they will. Hell, in current builds, Sugar doesn't even start without NetworkManager, which isn't exactly Windows-compatible software.
You're a luminary in the FOSS world, and a geek hero. I'm sure you know that. I hope you're also aware when you start forecasting things based on insufficient information, a lot of people just take your word for it. I suggest you contact OLPC with your concerns, so they can be suitably allayed.
1. Java.....20.5% - runtime written in C
...somehow I doubt C or C++ are going anywhere. The good news is if they DO die at least they'll take PHP with them.
2. C........14.7% - duh
3. VB.......11.6% - who cares
4. PHP......10.3% - written in C++
5. C++.......9.9% - duh
6. Perl......5.9% - written in C
7. Python....4.5% - written in C
8. C#........3.8% - who cares
9. Ruby......2.9% - written in C
10. Delphi...2.7% - no idea
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Cydonia or Bust
It is now clear that the coconut hordes are being controlled from an underground base in Cydonia - which is an unusual area of Mars featuring five sided pyramids and a large formation resembling a human face. Cydonian civilisation once flourished on Mars many millions of years ago, but we do not know why it died out, or what the connection is with the latest coconut activity there. Whatever the explanation we must send an expedition to Cydonia. This is the only way that we can defeat the coconuts. We must destroy the controlling master 'brain'. We will need an Avenger craft equipped with the most awesome destructive power at our disposal. There is nothing more we can learn here - we must await the outcome of the Cydonian assault.
GMail requires you to authenticate with their SMTP servers to send mail. His choices were to include the account password, implement his own SMTP server and build it into the program, or use an open SMTP server. That last will often get your mail dropped as spam. The second one would have been better-secured, but the guy was obviously dumb enough to include a phishing function in a backup program, so it's obvious why he went with option number one.
I guess you have to be pretty leet to do "yum install opera." I got slackware up on mine. Freelikegnu got ubuntu running on his. There's a guy on IRC who put a tiny usb GPS dongle inside the thing, soldered to the mainboard. These are hacks. "yum install opera" is not.
OLPC is not using any resources assisting Microsoft. Microsoft is not paying OLPC. XO developers are still working on the OLPC's Fedora-based distribution exclusively.
Read this: http://radian.org/notebook/paradox-of-choice