Wasn't this posted months ago? Or was that a different problem? I seem to recall another math problem that a million dollar reward was offered for recently...
And not only that, but his comment that he would change the color scheme if asked to work on Slashdot's design. No way! Regardless of whether you like the scheme or not (I wouldn't use it when I do my own sites) you gotta realize that that green color is now an integral part of Slashdot's IDENTITY. Indeed, part of the reason I wouldn't use it is because that look pretty much belongs to Slashdot now. Who am I to change that?
If the site went through a major overhaul, the color is one thing I would hope they would keep.
Anyways, I like Zeldman. He's a good guy. Anyone working like he is for universal standards support is ok in my book:-)
Well I know I speak for at least FIVE PEOPLE;-) when I say this:
To hell with these people that have their panties in a knot over copyright issues. You have no basis for complaint. You posted in a public forum. I am one of those posters - I had a longish comment in the original discussion that was moderated to 4 so there's a good chance it'll be used. You know what? It wouldn't bother me a bit if they posted it with NO COMPENSATION and didn't ask for permission. In fact, I'd be a little flattered.
Now publish the book already! I want to see the book! What's the holdup?!?!????
And especially don't look at the raw bitmap on page 27. Oh, it won't do anything to you PHYSICALLY, but it'll chew right through the software in your brain that makes you who you are. See, exposing your optic nerve (which is really just a sensitive extension of your brain) to raw information such as a black and white bitmap wouldn't normally affect a person, but with hackers it's different. Ever since we learned the binary number system, we have had "deep structures" in the brain that allow us to subconsciously interpret binary code, and even run it in our assembly language processor known as the brainstem.
So THIS virus on page 27 works the opposite way - it is the most dangerous to us hackers. If anyone shoves a bitmap in your face, LOOK AWAY, lest you be reduced to a babbling idiot speaking in tongues in the hospital ward, and subsequently persuaded to join a bizarre religious cult run by a king of the communications industry. It could happen to you! Beware! Read this newspaper at your own peril, and watch the snakes come slithering out of Hell on a mission to coil their oily, scaley bodies around your midsection and drag you into the 10th circle of hell. BEWARE!!!!!!!
I don't know which is scariest - that their family apparently uses a version numbering scheme, that they announced it like a product press release, their "mixed marriage", or the fact that it literally IS a subdomain of perens.com
Looks like a good time to get a receiver. Anyone have an opionion on the best sports/recreation receivers in the $400 range, and/or the best place to get them?
Personally, I like Bootman, the boot manager that ships with BeOS. It is very simple.
See, I had Linux and BeOS on my computer, and it would just boot to a colorful menu that would select "BeOS" by default, but if I pressed an arrow key, it would switch to Linux. Then I'd just hit enter (or wait 5 seconds) and that was it.
Well, I had extra partition space and I decided to add Windoze as a third OS, because there were certain win32 programs I needed. So I install windows, which of course overwrites the MBR, so I can't boot into anything else now.
Simple - I just put the BeOS CD in, and run a program that loads BeOS straight out of windows. Then, from the Be terminal (a bash shell, or should I say BaSH shell?) I type "bootman". A window comes up listing every partition on every hard disk. I simply put a checkmark by every one that I want to be able to boot from, and give each a name as it will show up on the boot menu. I click "OK" and that's it. Bootman has taken back my MBR.
Hmm.. You don't mean it was worse than 50% after 3 days? That would be sooo easy..:) Then simply the opposite has higher probability, and we can predict it easily...:)
That would make sense if there were only two possibilities, (ie rain or shine) and you just had to pick one. But that's not what he meant.
NOAA is, strangely enough, the first introduction I ever got to the world wide web. It was 1993 I think, and I was on a tour there as a seventh grader, and some guy gave our group a demo of Mosaic, letting us try surfing the web. Man, I thought that was just so cool...
And that's why I said it was a silly assumption. The beginning number really didn't matter much at all, and it was an oversimplified calculation anyway.
Um, obviously theoretical growth rates only apply in perfect conditions. Remember the bacteria they always talk about in middle-school math classes whose population doubles every 2 hours or whatever? Well, obviously that isn't a sustainable rate, otherwise the world would have been over run with them billions of times over by now.
Obviously. Don't think I'm reading too much into my little calculation:-)
All I was trying to do was show that there is no reason, mathematically speaking, why there couldn't have been just 7 women in Europe 150,000 years ago.
Clearly it's the same with people. If you were to say that there were only 2 people around 150,000 years ago, your figure of 1.8*10^66 would be only reduced to a seventh, so there would still be 'a lot of people'.
Again, I'm not trying to make any claims about what the population growth for humans is or was, or what the population is or was. My formula was far too simple for that.
Of course its still wrong anyway, the formula for population growth isn't p = p0*r^t, its something more like p = p0*e^rt, or something like that (something with an 'e' I don't remember exactly)
Well, of course it's wrong. But it could never be wrong for the reason you just gave above. The equations p=p0*r^t and p=p0*e^rt are both exponential curves, and exponential growth can be expressed in either form - it doesn't matter. An exponential curve always has the property that it's "doubling time" never changes, no matter where on the curve you look. This is true for both equations you gave. The only reason people use the e^rt form is that it is easier to integrate and differentiate.
First off, I hope spelling isn't one of your stronger points. This is interesting though, so I'm going to try and follow it to an estimate.
So after a bit of digging, I found some info on growth rates at the following URL:
http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/img/worldgr.gif
The numbers are above 1 percent per year for the years they actually have data on. I'll assume that because life just wasn't always so easy, a growth rate of.1% per year.
Starting with a population of 14 (with the silly assumption that there were seven guys to go with those seven women) and multiplying by 1.001^150,000, we get a population of 1.8102974241583444 * 10^66
Thats a lot of people. So, it certainly sounds plausible to me.
If he keeps this up for just a few more days, I bet he'll earn a permanent place in Slashdot history. All those posts you see that make fun of first posts, emacs/vi flamewars, grits, and all that, will start adding references to OOG.
OOG HIT SLASHDOT ATTENTION PAYDIRT!!! OOG NO NEED HOURS OF EFFORT AND MENTAL IMBALANCE THAT SIGNAL 11 NEEDED TO GET NOTICED!!! OOG BASH SIGNAL 11 ON HEAD WITH BIG ROCK!!!
Slashdot Mirror
Wasn't this posted months ago? Or was that a different problem? I seem to recall another math problem that a million dollar reward was offered for recently...
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Hehe...
:-)
That has got to be the funniest thing I have read in a looooooooooong time
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And not only that, but his comment that he would change the color scheme if asked to work on Slashdot's design. No way! Regardless of whether you like the scheme or not (I wouldn't use it when I do my own sites) you gotta realize that that green color is now an integral part of Slashdot's IDENTITY. Indeed, part of the reason I wouldn't use it is because that look pretty much belongs to Slashdot now. Who am I to change that?
:-)
If the site went through a major overhaul, the color is one thing I would hope they would keep.
Anyways, I like Zeldman. He's a good guy. Anyone working like he is for universal standards support is ok in my book
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grappler
Well I know I speak for at least FIVE PEOPLE ;-) when I say this:
To hell with these people that have their panties in a knot over copyright issues. You have no basis for complaint. You posted in a public forum. I am one of those posters - I had a longish comment in the original discussion that was moderated to 4 so there's a good chance it'll be used. You know what? It wouldn't bother me a bit if they posted it with NO COMPENSATION and didn't ask for permission. In fact, I'd be a little flattered.
Now publish the book already! I want to see the book! What's the holdup?!?!????
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And what, I would like to know, is the upcoming, never before seen, knock-your-socks-off feature in Pine that has you holding your breath? :-)
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just recently finished it :-) (only read it once) I just HAD to post that tho, because the post I replied to reminded me so much of the book.
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And especially don't look at the raw bitmap on page 27. Oh, it won't do anything to you PHYSICALLY, but it'll chew right through the software in your brain that makes you who you are. See, exposing your optic nerve (which is really just a sensitive extension of your brain) to raw information such as a black and white bitmap wouldn't normally affect a person, but with hackers it's different. Ever since we learned the binary number system, we have had "deep structures" in the brain that allow us to subconsciously interpret binary code, and even run it in our assembly language processor known as the brainstem.
So THIS virus on page 27 works the opposite way - it is the most dangerous to us hackers. If anyone shoves a bitmap in your face, LOOK AWAY, lest you be reduced to a babbling idiot speaking in tongues in the hospital ward, and subsequently persuaded to join a bizarre religious cult run by a king of the communications industry. It could happen to you! Beware! Read this newspaper at your own peril, and watch the snakes come slithering out of Hell on a mission to coil their oily, scaley bodies around your midsection and drag you into the 10th circle of hell. BEWARE!!!!!!!
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grappler
I don't know which is scariest - that their family apparently uses a version numbering scheme, that they announced it like a product press release, their "mixed marriage", or the fact that it literally IS a subdomain of perens.com
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I meant that to be "sub $400 range" - I forgot that less-than signs don't necessarily show up :-)
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Looks like a good time to get a receiver. Anyone have an opionion on the best sports/recreation receivers in the $400 range, and/or the best place to get them?
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For those of you who have read Snow Crash :-)
If anyone shows you a raw black & white bitmap that looks like static, LOOK AWAY, or we WILL be speaking Falabala.
Finux, for industrial strength text processing!
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Personally, I like Bootman, the boot manager that ships with BeOS. It is very simple.
See, I had Linux and BeOS on my computer, and it would just boot to a colorful menu that would select "BeOS" by default, but if I pressed an arrow key, it would switch to Linux. Then I'd just hit enter (or wait 5 seconds) and that was it.
Well, I had extra partition space and I decided to add Windoze as a third OS, because there were certain win32 programs I needed. So I install windows, which of course overwrites the MBR, so I can't boot into anything else now.
Simple - I just put the BeOS CD in, and run a program that loads BeOS straight out of windows. Then, from the Be terminal (a bash shell, or should I say BaSH shell?) I type "bootman". A window comes up listing every partition on every hard disk. I simply put a checkmark by every one that I want to be able to boot from, and give each a name as it will show up on the boot menu. I click "OK" and that's it. Bootman has taken back my MBR.
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Does anyone know when BeIA appliances will be sold? How will we be able to get them? What will the products be branded as?
Or are they already out? I've never seen one...
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I wish I had that CAD program last semester. I had to install windows just so I could put a CAD program on.
I realize that there ARE CAD programs for Linux, but I tried all the free ones I could find and they just weren't up to snuff.
Yeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwww....
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Oh crap, I just realized that that wasn't the kind of URL that includes the fields from the query. Dammit. Sorry.
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Microsoft has a definate slant, to the surprise of all I'm sure:
s .exe
http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/cgi-win/indiv
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Think Noa's Ark :-)
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Hmm.. You don't mean it was worse than 50% after 3 days? That would be sooo easy.. :) Then simply the opposite has higher probability, and we can predict it easily... :)
That would make sense if there were only two possibilities, (ie rain or shine) and you just had to pick one. But that's not what he meant.
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grappler
NOAA is, strangely enough, the first introduction I ever got to the world wide web. It was 1993 I think, and I was on a tour there as a seventh grader, and some guy gave our group a demo of Mosaic, letting us try surfing the web. Man, I thought that was just so cool...
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And that's why I said it was a silly assumption. The beginning number really didn't matter much at all, and it was an oversimplified calculation anyway.
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grappler
Um, obviously theoretical growth rates only apply in perfect conditions. Remember the bacteria they always talk about in middle-school math classes whose population doubles every 2 hours or whatever? Well, obviously that isn't a sustainable rate, otherwise the world would have been over run with them billions of times over by now.
:-)
Obviously. Don't think I'm reading too much into my little calculation
All I was trying to do was show that there is no reason, mathematically speaking, why there couldn't have been just 7 women in Europe 150,000 years ago.
Clearly it's the same with people. If you were to say that there were only 2 people around 150,000 years ago, your figure of 1.8*10^66 would be only reduced to a seventh, so there would still be 'a lot of people'.
Again, I'm not trying to make any claims about what the population growth for humans is or was, or what the population is or was. My formula was far too simple for that.
Of course its still wrong anyway, the formula for population growth isn't p = p0*r^t, its something more like p = p0*e^rt, or something like that (something with an 'e' I don't remember exactly)
Well, of course it's wrong. But it could never be wrong for the reason you just gave above. The equations p=p0*r^t and p=p0*e^rt are both exponential curves, and exponential growth can be expressed in either form - it doesn't matter. An exponential curve always has the property that it's "doubling time" never changes, no matter where on the curve you look. This is true for both equations you gave. The only reason people use the e^rt form is that it is easier to integrate and differentiate.
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First off, I hope spelling isn't one of your stronger points. This is interesting though, so I'm going to try and follow it to an estimate.
.1% per year.
So after a bit of digging, I found some info on growth rates at the following URL:
http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/img/worldgr.gif
The numbers are above 1 percent per year for the years they actually have data on. I'll assume that because life just wasn't always so easy, a growth rate of
Starting with a population of 14 (with the silly assumption that there were seven guys to go with those seven women) and multiplying by 1.001^150,000, we get a population of 1.8102974241583444 * 10^66
Thats a lot of people. So, it certainly sounds plausible to me.
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If he keeps this up for just a few more days, I bet he'll earn a permanent place in Slashdot history. All those posts you see that make fun of first posts, emacs/vi flamewars, grits, and all that, will start adding references to OOG.
:-)
OOG HIT SLASHDOT ATTENTION PAYDIRT!!! OOG NO NEED HOURS OF EFFORT AND MENTAL IMBALANCE THAT SIGNAL 11 NEEDED TO GET NOTICED!!! OOG BASH SIGNAL 11 ON HEAD WITH BIG ROCK!!!
Oog groks the concept of "cluestick"
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I don't know that voice, but I was reading it in the voice of those grunts in Warcraft II.
"Zug Zug!"
Actually, there are lots of good voices in that game.
The death knights sound (and look) just how I imagined Tolkien's ringwraiths would, but I ramble...
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Did I just read that post I'm replying to?
/. has any misconceptions about THAT...
Dude,
oh man, I'm at a loss for words. Just...
Dude,
chill OUT. I doubt anyone on
geez
I wish you could see my fits of laughter I'm in right now.
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