Apparently some people have gone as far as calling death threats to a "Director of Policy and Enforcement for Xbox LIVE" and his wife (theres also irc logs where he came to say it on #360banned)
There has been modded xbox360 bans before too, so it shouldn't come as a surprise to people when they do get banned. And at least it keeps the cheaters off games.
Wonder why summary left out the release date as it's a lot more interesting. Trying to get us to read TFA now?
As for the hardware launch, November 2010 is being touted as the month of release, with around 14 games expected to be released in conjunction with the new device.
So actually not that far in the future and with some games supporting it too. For example Wii's MotionPlus still only has 3 games in PAL region.
This is why you don't network everything even if you could. In some countries they're resistant to build remote-controlling in to everything - sure, when something needs fixing it might take a little longer to physically get there, but at least you don't have script kiddies playing on your power grid or dam's.
But I also think there's some scare tactic behind these "how vulnerable we really are" news. I think I've read about these power grid hackers several times on slashdot alone.
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Yes, they actually dont. If you really need to cash a check, you have to walk in with special customer support and they will send the check out of country and keep it until the money has cleared out and they've performed other checks, which usually takes 30-50 days. It also costs a lot extra and they dont usually even do this for amounts less than $200.
Checks are still only used in USA and yes they are quite insecure. Here everyones pay gets paid directly to their bank accounts.
One of the things I immediatly noticed is the lack of build-in libraries. The reason I've always preferred Delphi and C# over C/C++ and PHP over Perl is that they all come with a comprehensive build-in function library for wide area of things.
Programming now a days tend to be mostly high-level, so you would expect that new languages would provide that. I personally hate to find tons of different libraries for C++ projects just to do a basic thing. And lets be honest, theres no sense of everyone of us to code the basic functions again (and probably in worse code than the regularly checked build-in functions)
That is why I love PHP, and because it provides a great manual on its functions. That is also why I love Delphi and why I started using it as 10 year old, without internet too - the reference guide that came with it was comprehensive and the build-in libraries and components for different things allowed me to rapidly try out to code apps and games. Only time I needed to find some libraries/components was when I was looking for a more rapid and better graphics library to do the drawing in my games.
That is what would be "fun" in a programming language. It comes a lot before "fast builds, clean syntax, garbage collection, methods for any type, and run-time reflection."
Websites could do more to protect their users too. For example if you accidentally write your password here on Slashdot comments, it comes up as masked. Like for example my password is ********.
Theres interesting twist on that one lately. Baxter, which also previously almost "accidentally" spread modified bird flu in 2008 until it was noticed in one of the labs just at final moment, was supposedly testing some bio weapon in Ukraine.
And further: “He said that Baxter’s Ukrainian lab was in fact producing a bio-weapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the vaccine contained an adjuvant (additive) designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu, causing global sickness and mass death.”
We should perhaps note that Moshe revealed this information in August, a full two months and more before the Ukrainian ‘flu’ epidemic broke out.
Since the moment the epidemic started to spread, 871,037 people have been diagnosed with flu and other respiratory viral infections, including 101,317 over the past 24 hours. As many as 39,603 of these people have been hospitalized, including 4,732 over the past 24 hours, and 317 are in intensive care.
60 people have died of severe respiratory conditions in the past week – 4 confirmed swine flu deaths, and what are being described as 56 “unexplained deaths” in the west of the country.
Looking at whatever has been happening with Baxter previously and with the swine flu.. interesting stuff.
Since you seem so confident and intelligent, how do you plan to teach that to a "normal person"?
And on real slashdot style, a car analogy; we dont care how the taxi works or how its supposed to secure us, we just want to get around conveniently. Without getting killed. Now the taxi driver might care more about his systems and how the inners of car work, but we just couldn't care less. It's the same thing when casual people use computers, and you're pretty ignorant if you dont understand why it is so or why they "just want it to work" so they can do whatever they want to. Like with every other hobby or thing, only those interested in computers and security are, others are not.
That might be the case in USA, but in other parts of world you're 99% of the time using DNS servers in your own country, which is pretty much the closest area CDN can have their things anyway. Yes you could use a vpn, have changed your dns servers and so on, but you're the minority case there, and even then it works normally, probably just not as efficiently as it could.
It is a completely different situation when you look it at the whole world view.
You dont even need to point it to OpenDNS (which FYI does *exactly* the same kind of advertisement serving on non-existing domains). Just run your own recursive DNS server and you're good to go.
(unless of course your ISP doesn't let you send DNS requests to any other server than theirs, which some people seem to have here)
Yes I know you pretty much need DNS to use internet, hence why all ISPs offer it to their customers. But what would exactly be that false advertising? They are providing you with DNS servers so you can resolve names. Just because their own-run server breaks RFC (with the NXDOMAIN thing), doesn't exactly break any law. It might be bad habit and it might make technical people angry (normal people just dont care), but that's it. Of course, you are always free NOT to use their services or make them know how you feel about such.
Agreed. Isn't failure to return an NXDOMAIN pretty much the same as any other exploit? I would say that the laws that protect against circumventing the security on a computing system should apply to this false-reply injection technique. Why should some random web operator be given access to download code to my computer when I didn't expressly visit their site?
Uh. Are you completely forgetting that *YOU* are using *THEIR* DNS servers?
Not that DNS response would be anything like executable code either...
Since when is DNS by legal terms part of internet service? Yes ISPs usually have DNS servers for their customers, because it's usually excepted and to make it customer friendly. But unless they specifically state that you will have access to such service too, or say it in contract, you dont have a legal case. And it's not like you cant use other DNS servers or set up your own. ISP's have usually also had email accounts, news and other services but 2000+ they've started dropping those and you wouldn't have a legal case in those situations either, unless of course, they were specified in your contract.
Internet service is just the line and the ability to connect to internet via your ISP.
Maybe it's time that the Internet standards get a few clauses added that express these concepts explicitly. Like what Paul said about DNS. A clause like "a nameserver MUST responde truthfully, if technically possible. DNS responses MUST NOT be modified in any way for political, economic or business reasons."
Then these fucked up ISPs would at least be in violation of a standard, which might give me what I need for a violation-of-contract suit.
I doubt it still would go anywhere in court. It's not like it's illegal to break RFC's and protocol standards on services you provide to your customers, who have opted-in and bought them. You might have a case if they blocked using other DNS servers, but they dont. And if they included a part in contract that says you're only allowed to use their DNS server (like they say for email port 25), you don't have a case with that either.
btw, this thing seems to only be a problem in USA too - they're not doing anything like that here, only interfere from ISP is that they block outgoing email to port 25.
It also makes the drinking culture different. Instead of socially drinking a few drinks/beers, people get mad drunk on weekends "because it costs so much, so we drink all we can when we do". That also leads to all kinds of other kind of problems.
Alcohol results in much worse results when you have to go for the full price at single times instead of spreading it around, like how the drinking culture is in germany and france.
What does that have to do with matchmaking vs dedicated servers? You need master server in both cases, otherwise you couldn't get a list of dedicated servers.
Exactly, and it's the same in all scandinavian countries (for all alcohol). Majority comes from the insane taxation of alcohol, which is supposed to increase general health.
What does "local food" mean anyway? If you mean traditional foods, they're pretty weird everywhere for outsiders (and well I dont even like some of my country's ones and think they're just weird). Now a days you can pretty much get any kind of food anywhere you like, so it doesn't really matter.
That being said, the bread that parent linked (Lefse) is really good. These are similar, really really good bread.
Because Sony is a huge company with lots of different products. In the video they also seem to measure smiling of persons and say that the technology could be used for interactive advertising and gaming, but they're not specifically talking about PS3.
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Apparently some people have gone as far as calling death threats to a "Director of Policy and Enforcement for Xbox LIVE" and his wife (theres also irc logs where he came to say it on #360banned)
There has been modded xbox360 bans before too, so it shouldn't come as a surprise to people when they do get banned. And at least it keeps the cheaters off games.
Wonder why summary left out the release date as it's a lot more interesting. Trying to get us to read TFA now?
As for the hardware launch, November 2010 is being touted as the month of release, with around 14 games expected to be released in conjunction with the new device.
So actually not that far in the future and with some games supporting it too. For example Wii's MotionPlus still only has 3 games in PAL region.
This is why you don't network everything even if you could. In some countries they're resistant to build remote-controlling in to everything - sure, when something needs fixing it might take a little longer to physically get there, but at least you don't have script kiddies playing on your power grid or dam's.
But I also think there's some scare tactic behind these "how vulnerable we really are" news. I think I've read about these power grid hackers several times on slashdot alone.
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Yes, they actually dont. If you really need to cash a check, you have to walk in with special customer support and they will send the check out of country and keep it until the money has cleared out and they've performed other checks, which usually takes 30-50 days. It also costs a lot extra and they dont usually even do this for amounts less than $200.
Checks are still only used in USA and yes they are quite insecure. Here everyones pay gets paid directly to their bank accounts.
One of the things I immediatly noticed is the lack of build-in libraries. The reason I've always preferred Delphi and C# over C/C++ and PHP over Perl is that they all come with a comprehensive build-in function library for wide area of things.
Programming now a days tend to be mostly high-level, so you would expect that new languages would provide that. I personally hate to find tons of different libraries for C++ projects just to do a basic thing. And lets be honest, theres no sense of everyone of us to code the basic functions again (and probably in worse code than the regularly checked build-in functions)
That is why I love PHP, and because it provides a great manual on its functions. That is also why I love Delphi and why I started using it as 10 year old, without internet too - the reference guide that came with it was comprehensive and the build-in libraries and components for different things allowed me to rapidly try out to code apps and games. Only time I needed to find some libraries/components was when I was looking for a more rapid and better graphics library to do the drawing in my games.
That is what would be "fun" in a programming language. It comes a lot before "fast builds, clean syntax, garbage collection, methods for any type, and run-time reflection."
Websites could do more to protect their users too. For example if you accidentally write your password here on Slashdot comments, it comes up as masked. Like for example my password is ********.
KeePassX is just a Linux/Mac OSX port of KeePass.
Theres interesting twist on that one lately. Baxter, which also previously almost "accidentally" spread modified bird flu in 2008 until it was noticed in one of the labs just at final moment, was supposedly testing some bio weapon in Ukraine.
http://www.consciousape.com/news/swine-flu-wars-baxters-ukraine-bio-weapon-exposed/
And further: “He said that Baxter’s Ukrainian lab was in fact producing a bio-weapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the vaccine contained an adjuvant (additive) designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu, causing global sickness and mass death.”
We should perhaps note that Moshe revealed this information in August, a full two months and more before the Ukrainian ‘flu’ epidemic broke out.
Interestingly that was noted 2 months ago, and something unknown is now spreading there.
Since the moment the epidemic started to spread, 871,037 people have been diagnosed with flu and other respiratory viral infections, including 101,317 over the past 24 hours. As many as 39,603 of these people have been hospitalized, including 4,732 over the past 24 hours, and 317 are in intensive care.
60 people have died of severe respiratory conditions in the past week – 4 confirmed swine flu deaths, and what are being described as 56 “unexplained deaths” in the west of the country.
Looking at whatever has been happening with Baxter previously and with the swine flu.. interesting stuff.
Since you seem so confident and intelligent, how do you plan to teach that to a "normal person"?
And on real slashdot style, a car analogy; we dont care how the taxi works or how its supposed to secure us, we just want to get around conveniently. Without getting killed. Now the taxi driver might care more about his systems and how the inners of car work, but we just couldn't care less. It's the same thing when casual people use computers, and you're pretty ignorant if you dont understand why it is so or why they "just want it to work" so they can do whatever they want to. Like with every other hobby or thing, only those interested in computers and security are, others are not.
That might be the case in USA, but in other parts of world you're 99% of the time using DNS servers in your own country, which is pretty much the closest area CDN can have their things anyway. Yes you could use a vpn, have changed your dns servers and so on, but you're the minority case there, and even then it works normally, probably just not as efficiently as it could.
It is a completely different situation when you look it at the whole world view.
You dont even need to point it to OpenDNS (which FYI does *exactly* the same kind of advertisement serving on non-existing domains). Just run your own recursive DNS server and you're good to go.
(unless of course your ISP doesn't let you send DNS requests to any other server than theirs, which some people seem to have here)
Yes I know you pretty much need DNS to use internet, hence why all ISPs offer it to their customers. But what would exactly be that false advertising? They are providing you with DNS servers so you can resolve names. Just because their own-run server breaks RFC (with the NXDOMAIN thing), doesn't exactly break any law. It might be bad habit and it might make technical people angry (normal people just dont care), but that's it. Of course, you are always free NOT to use their services or make them know how you feel about such.
Agreed. Isn't failure to return an NXDOMAIN pretty much the same as any other exploit? I would say that the laws that protect against circumventing the security on a computing system should apply to this false-reply injection technique. Why should some random web operator be given access to download code to my computer when I didn't expressly visit their site?
Uh. Are you completely forgetting that *YOU* are using *THEIR* DNS servers?
Not that DNS response would be anything like executable code either...
Good luck getting everyone join your root servers instead.
Since when is DNS by legal terms part of internet service? Yes ISPs usually have DNS servers for their customers, because it's usually excepted and to make it customer friendly. But unless they specifically state that you will have access to such service too, or say it in contract, you dont have a legal case. And it's not like you cant use other DNS servers or set up your own. ISP's have usually also had email accounts, news and other services but 2000+ they've started dropping those and you wouldn't have a legal case in those situations either, unless of course, they were specified in your contract.
Internet service is just the line and the ability to connect to internet via your ISP.
Maybe it's time that the Internet standards get a few clauses added that express these concepts explicitly. Like what Paul said about DNS. A clause like "a nameserver MUST responde truthfully, if technically possible. DNS responses MUST NOT be modified in any way for political, economic or business reasons."
Then these fucked up ISPs would at least be in violation of a standard, which might give me what I need for a violation-of-contract suit.
I doubt it still would go anywhere in court. It's not like it's illegal to break RFC's and protocol standards on services you provide to your customers, who have opted-in and bought them. You might have a case if they blocked using other DNS servers, but they dont. And if they included a part in contract that says you're only allowed to use their DNS server (like they say for email port 25), you don't have a case with that either.
btw, this thing seems to only be a problem in USA too - they're not doing anything like that here, only interfere from ISP is that they block outgoing email to port 25.
You also forgot that Opera comes from Norway.
And their land and economy is also different. Even if its all throw in "Scandinavia", the countries are still quite different, especially on economy.
It also makes the drinking culture different. Instead of socially drinking a few drinks/beers, people get mad drunk on weekends "because it costs so much, so we drink all we can when we do". That also leads to all kinds of other kind of problems.
Alcohol results in much worse results when you have to go for the full price at single times instead of spreading it around, like how the drinking culture is in germany and france.
What does that have to do with matchmaking vs dedicated servers? You need master server in both cases, otherwise you couldn't get a list of dedicated servers.
Exactly, and it's the same in all scandinavian countries (for all alcohol). Majority comes from the insane taxation of alcohol, which is supposed to increase general health.
Still this isn't a precedent and doesn't do much outside Norway.
What does "local food" mean anyway? If you mean traditional foods, they're pretty weird everywhere for outsiders (and well I dont even like some of my country's ones and think they're just weird). Now a days you can pretty much get any kind of food anywhere you like, so it doesn't really matter.
That being said, the bread that parent linked (Lefse) is really good. These are similar, really really good bread.
Because Sony is a huge company with lots of different products. In the video they also seem to measure smiling of persons and say that the technology could be used for interactive advertising and gaming, but they're not specifically talking about PS3.