When you get into a corporate environment, "cheating" is actually preferred. No reason to re-invent the wheel when there is existing code that gets the job done.
Need a report that's "like this one except for..."? Take the code for that report and add some mods and there ya go. Your manager would consider you an idiot if you started each project from scratch, re-writing all the functions and methods that already exist in other applications and have perhaps already gone through rigorous QA.
I'm sure many of Madoff's investors would disagree.
While my original comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek I think this game between the virus writers and anti-virus writers is far more serious than most people realize.
Having your identity stolen and your credit rating ruined can be a life changing event. Lawsuits and even jail time for you are possibilities.
These days, having you computer hacked into, damaged, or data deleted can the be the equivalent of someone breaking into your home and destroying things...photographs, letters, financial records, etc.
If you are a computer professional you should have your stuff backed up, but you can still lose hours and hours if you have to rebuild your computer after an attack in addition to whatever wasn't backed up at the time of the attack.
And of course some people have been prosecuted and found not guilty of child porn charges because they convinced a judge or jury that a virus downloaded the pictures. If this indeed happens, then Shirley, others are in jail for it. Not sure if I buy that, but it is what it is.
Sure, people should take precautions and such, but really, that's like saying if you don't want to get mugged, don't go out after dark. I think we need to start putting the "muggers" in jail.
So these guys are not just script kiddies trying to outdo each other. If a virus author is caught, they should serve a very long jail sentence and very large fines. Then, hopefully, someone named Tyrone will use them as his personal little playmate.
It is mostly completed, perfectly safe repository (assuming they stay with the stupid and illogical position that the fuel shouldn't be reprocessed) and according the the president, "we're done with Yucca and we need to be about looking for alternatives".
Then he sets up a "commission" to figure it out and out of 15 members, only one has any academic background in nuclear energy and another has a physics background. The rest are political hacks. A particularly stupid appointment is Mark Ayers: president of the Building and Construction Trades Department at AFL-CIO.
I am the tax payer fuckhead. All you bitches answer to us.
You want cap and trade? You want more expensive energy? You have to go through us. Sorry, Environmentalists and Scientists are not in charge.
You have to make your case and make a god damned good one. If you don't have the time or the inclination, then we'd just prefer you STFU.
Ahh...and I seem to remember than one of the central pillars of science is that you can't prove a negative. YOU have to prove your case with empirical evidence, independently verified. Not using ginned up numbers, mysterious models, etc.
Just look at the signature...that's your problem right there.
The "True" cost of anything is what the market is willing to pay for it. That does not include taxes designed to make something less affordable. The government and their Cap and Trade taxes are an artificial and wrong headed intrusion into the market place.
Just going from memory and because you can Google it, the CO2 levels that are most quoted as being the targeted level is from the 1800s or so. Saving a wholesale changeover to nuclear power, these levels are probably unobtainable with the current level of technology without drastically reducing the standard of living in the Western Nations.
It comes down to this. (note: "You" is a generic reference, not a specific reference to Stuntmonkey)
You want to postulate a new version of the Big Bang? Go right ahead. I (general populace) don't really care. It will make for an interesting Nova special. You want to say that unobtanium has superior conductive properties than does copper? Great! I get a better TV eventually and maybe THEN a real electric car. Maybe someone else wants to declare that man originated in Antarctica and is descended from Walruses. Whatever, I don't really care. None of this impacts me really other than that I may get better consumer products and have something to talk about at the water cooler.
Now, if you want to say that man is going to render the planet uninhabitable in 200 years and that you want to start taxing me and giving the money to government for no discernible
reason other than to influence my behavior? Now I'm interested. A lot of people are now interested. Many people smell a scam too.
If you really want billions of people to change their way of life and reduce their standard of living, you better have something other than a fat politician, flaky models, suspect data, and a piss poor attitude when people question you. You also better go waaay out of your way to answer questions, make things simple, etc, Because you are not just asking people to watch a Nova program about the Big Bang, you are asking them to hand over cold, hard cash.
The first time some asshole tells us we are too stupid to understand is the last time that asshole and all of his buddies have any credibility with millions and millions of voters. And we will elect politicians that will tell you go to fuck yourself.
And...I will reiterate once again. This whole thread, the effort expended by all the people arguing one way or another, the money spend on ads, articles, papers, peer reviews is an absolute waste of time unless there is a willingness to advocate a solution that actually solves the problem. That answer is nuclear power.
Imagine if Hanson, Jones, et. al had included in their statements the advocacy of nuclear power as an inexpensive, clean, and available technology to combat global warming? We could have been well on a path to go 100% nuclear by now. Instead, they and their political buddies advocate practices that even a 5th grader would recognize as the old, tired and radical "Green" agenda. They may as well have dressed up in tie-die shirts and handcuff themselves to the Capital steps. We may not be rocket scientists, but like I said, we are not a stupid as you think you are.
So you want to impress you buddies and get Nobel prizes? Fine. Peer reviewed papers and such are great. I"ll even pay for your giant accelerators, etc.,etc. with my tax money. I"ll watch the Nova specials, and I'll read your books (I really liked Brian Green's books). But if you want to change the lives of billions of people, (not for the better, but reduce their quality of life), take money from them for no other reason other than to force them to reduce their quality of life (and then spend it on junket's to Copenhagen for the caviar and hookers), then it's a whole new ball game. The levels of proof required have just increased many orders of magnitude. And yes, you're gonna have to prove it, not just guess, suggest, model, postulate and theorize.
I tell you what, if they come to me and tell me I have to pay umteen thousands of dollars a year to follow the agenda of the environ whackos, they better have it fucking laid out song and verse and if I have questions they damned well better not call me names. If the don't and then do, they and you can go fuck yourself.
For that matter, before they try the bullshit cap and trade, they should be advocating nuclear energy. Because if everything they say is true, that is the only way out. Not fucking windmills or wave generators. Not solar or geothermal. The fact that they are not advocating this and want us to live in the fucking stone age means they are probably gaming the whole thing.
I think Goodwin's law needs to include some extras.
Long before Hitler is mentioned, invariably, George Bush will be mentioned and associated with the target of the post...as in "George Bush's pal Tony Blair".
Also, those who dispute the main idea of the post/discussion or the authors of studies/articles, etc. that support the dissenter, will be accused of being paid by the target of post/discussion.
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When you get into a corporate environment, "cheating" is actually preferred. No reason to re-invent the wheel when there is existing code that gets the job done.
Need a report that's "like this one except for..."? Take the code for that report and add some mods and there ya go. Your manager would consider you an idiot if you started each project from scratch, re-writing all the functions and methods that already exist in other applications and have perhaps already gone through rigorous QA.
Besides, how many ways can you write a QuickSort?
I'm sure many of Madoff's investors would disagree.
While my original comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek I think this game between the virus writers and anti-virus writers is far more serious than most people realize.
Having your identity stolen and your credit rating ruined can be a life changing event. Lawsuits and even jail time for you are possibilities.
These days, having you computer hacked into, damaged, or data deleted can the be the equivalent of someone breaking into your home and destroying things...photographs, letters, financial records, etc.
If you are a computer professional you should have your stuff backed up, but you can still lose hours and hours if you have to rebuild your computer after an attack in addition to whatever wasn't backed up at the time of the attack.
And of course some people have been prosecuted and found not guilty of child porn charges because they convinced a judge or jury that a virus downloaded the pictures. If this indeed happens, then Shirley, others are in jail for it. Not sure if I buy that, but it is what it is.
Sure, people should take precautions and such, but really, that's like saying if you don't want to get mugged, don't go out after dark. I think we need to start putting the "muggers" in jail.
So these guys are not just script kiddies trying to outdo each other. If a virus author is caught, they should serve a very long jail sentence and very large fines. Then, hopefully, someone named Tyrone will use them as his personal little playmate.
Are you sure it's an over reaction?
screwed up...what can I say?
I mean eradicated...although irradiated would probably work well too.
What? Are you having a senior moment and reponding to ancient posts?
It is mostly completed, perfectly safe repository (assuming they stay with the stupid and illogical position that the fuel shouldn't be reprocessed) and according the the president, "we're done with Yucca and we need to be about looking for alternatives".
Then he sets up a "commission" to figure it out and out of 15 members, only one has any academic background in nuclear energy and another has a physics background. The rest are political hacks. A particularly stupid appointment is Mark Ayers: president of the Building and Construction Trades Department at AFL-CIO.
It's all a load of crap.
Everyone remember where we parked the ship!
Spoken like a true AC.
Dumbass..you can't even post AC correctly.
I am the tax payer fuckhead. All you bitches answer to us.
You want cap and trade? You want more expensive energy? You have to go through us. Sorry, Environmentalists and Scientists are not in charge.
You have to make your case and make a god damned good one. If you don't have the time or the inclination, then we'd just prefer you STFU.
Ahh...and I seem to remember than one of the central pillars of science is that you can't prove a negative. YOU have to prove your case with empirical evidence, independently verified. Not using ginned up numbers, mysterious models, etc.
Just look at the signature...that's your problem right there.
The "True" cost of anything is what the market is willing to pay for it. That does not include taxes designed to make something less affordable. The government and their Cap and Trade taxes are an artificial and wrong headed intrusion into the market place.
That's a pretty stupid analogy.
They really haven't done much to earn our trust, now have they?
Just going from memory and because you can Google it, the CO2 levels that are most quoted as being the targeted level is from the 1800s or so. Saving a wholesale changeover to nuclear power, these levels are probably unobtainable with the current level of technology without drastically reducing the standard of living in the Western Nations.
It comes down to this. (note: "You" is a generic reference, not a specific reference to Stuntmonkey)
You want to postulate a new version of the Big Bang? Go right ahead. I (general populace) don't really care. It will make for an interesting Nova special. You want to say that unobtanium has superior conductive properties than does copper? Great! I get a better TV eventually and maybe THEN a real electric car. Maybe someone else wants to declare that man originated in Antarctica and is descended from Walruses. Whatever, I don't really care. None of this impacts me really other than that I may get better consumer products and have something to talk about at the water cooler.
Now, if you want to say that man is going to render the planet uninhabitable in 200 years and that you want to start taxing me and giving the money to government for no discernible
reason other than to influence my behavior? Now I'm interested. A lot of people are now interested. Many people smell a scam too.
If you really want billions of people to change their way of life and reduce their standard of living, you better have something other than a fat politician, flaky models, suspect data, and a piss poor attitude when people question you. You also better go waaay out of your way to answer questions, make things simple, etc, Because you are not just asking people to watch a Nova program about the Big Bang, you are asking them to hand over cold, hard cash.
The first time some asshole tells us we are too stupid to understand is the last time that asshole and all of his buddies have any credibility with millions and millions of voters. And we will elect politicians that will tell you go to fuck yourself.
And...I will reiterate once again. This whole thread, the effort expended by all the people arguing one way or another, the money spend on ads, articles, papers, peer reviews is an absolute waste of time unless there is a willingness to advocate a solution that actually solves the problem. That answer is nuclear power.
Imagine if Hanson, Jones, et. al had included in their statements the advocacy of nuclear power as an inexpensive, clean, and available technology to combat global warming? We could have been well on a path to go 100% nuclear by now. Instead, they and their political buddies advocate practices that even a 5th grader would recognize as the old, tired and radical "Green" agenda. They may as well have dressed up in tie-die shirts and handcuff themselves to the Capital steps. We may not be rocket scientists, but like I said, we are not a stupid as you think you are.
So you want to impress you buddies and get Nobel prizes? Fine. Peer reviewed papers and such are great. I"ll even pay for your giant accelerators, etc. ,etc. with my tax money. I"ll watch the Nova specials, and I'll read your books (I really liked Brian Green's books). But if you want to change the lives of billions of people, (not for the better, but reduce their quality of life), take money from them for no other reason other than to force them to reduce their quality of life (and then spend it on junket's to Copenhagen for the caviar and hookers), then it's a whole new ball game. The levels of proof required have just increased many orders of magnitude. And yes, you're gonna have to prove it, not just guess, suggest, model, postulate and theorize.
If you want ME to pay money, then you better fucking tow the line.
Otherwise, I really could give a shit about you and what you think.
I guess I'll come collect that $1700 from you then.
I tell you what, if they come to me and tell me I have to pay umteen thousands of dollars a year to follow the agenda of the environ whackos, they better have it fucking laid out song and verse and if I have questions they damned well better not call me names. If the don't and then do, they and you can go fuck yourself.
For that matter, before they try the bullshit cap and trade, they should be advocating nuclear energy. Because if everything they say is true, that is the only way out. Not fucking windmills or wave generators. Not solar or geothermal. The fact that they are not advocating this and want us to live in the fucking stone age means they are probably gaming the whole thing.
I can think of several cities that SHOULD be underwater.
The general population isn't as stupid as you think you are.
They need to just fucking cross license the patents like they always end up doing. Stop feeding the animals (Lawyers).
Fitfox rocks...Mauls too.
You can get into a hell of a lot of trouble even at just 200mph, let alone 1000 mph.
Maybe this can be ginned up into an excuse to tell them to eat their T-Bonds.
National debt reduced just like that!
But seriously and hypothetically, what are the obligations of a debtor nation if the nation holding the debt for all practical purposes declares war?
Interesting.
I think Goodwin's law needs to include some extras.
Long before Hitler is mentioned, invariably, George Bush will be mentioned and associated with the target of the post...as in "George Bush's pal Tony Blair".
Also, those who dispute the main idea of the post/discussion or the authors of studies/articles, etc. that support the dissenter, will be accused of being paid by the target of post/discussion.