This is why we desperately need a 3 Rd party. Both of the 2 majors do nothing but play with issues and fucking solve nothing.
What fuck-nut moderators are so far up the major parties asses that they felt the need to moderate this as troll or flamebait -- it is the FUCKING TRUTH.
If you modded that post troll or flamebait, your are 100% what is wrong with this country -- FUCK YOU!
Why do you care if people want keep their head in the sand and ignore the fact that Facebook cares not one bit about their privacy?
Heck I hope more people sign up. Then when there is some massive data breach, it just makes it all the more amusing for those of us that have no accounts, and go out of our way to foil their shadow profile builder as well.
ISP's are not responsible for anything their clients do. They are a service provider. They have to provide a service without prejudice.
They don't have to monitor what the end users are doing. that would in fact be an invasion of privacy and probably be a human rights violation.
This is akin to blaming power companies for terrorism, as they used someones power while scheming their evil schemes.
That WAS the case when they were classified Title II -- common carriers. NOW they most certainly ARE liable, and I hope the RIAA wins every penny, and other ISPs wake up to the fact that they can be sued, and held criminally liable for:
* Allowing child porn (Oh I didn't know -- not an excuse anymore) * Terrorist forums * Software piracy *
The Internet is a public utility that should be classified as Title II. I don't agree with this lawsuit, I think it is a load of horseshit. However, Cox wanted the FCC to revoke Title II, and now I hope they get what is coming to them. Can't have it both ways.
It just goes to show "Do No Evil" was complete and utter media theatre. Google will do anything for the almighty dollar!
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I am sure that when Larry and Sergey started Google, they had good intentions. I really believe that at the time that wanted to: "Do no evil". However, when the money starts flowing in, and the shareholders demand that the stock price keeps climbing, you start off with: "Well this isn't THAT evil". Eventually you end up with: "Fuck it, remove the slogan and let's conquer the world".
I assume your Linux distro isn't SystemD yet is it?
No it isn't. I use Gentoo.
I switched to Ubuntu, for a while, but when Debian decided to jump on the Lindows train by making systemD(oes not work) mandatory, I got off and switched back to a distro that cares about choice.
It baffles me how people tolerate their OS doing things they don't want it to.
Your ID is low enough that you have no excuse for this. Think back to all the stories of XP hosted botnets and the near-unanimous cry of Slashdot was "DON'T LET REGULAR USERS REFUSE PATCHES!!!"
Well, this is not letting users refuse patches indefinately. You got your wish, now stop whining about it.
Interesting, I am fairly certain that advocating for forced patching is nowhere in my post history. I have advocated for ISPs to cut access to users that have infected machines. If you can't keep your machine clean, then you don't belong on the Internet. I don't even like applications that auto-update. If I get something setup the way I like it, and it does what I want, no one needs to patch / upgrade / re-install / etc, but me.
What if I've left something open that I don't want to lose and leave it open for the night or keep it running overnight while not logged in? Yeah I know, save before you leave the machine for the former, but there are times I don't want to save changes yet and am just too stubborn to save to a temporary file and silly me expects a machine to continue running if I don't tell it to shut down...
It baffles me how people tolerate their OS doing things they don't want it to. If my OS just up and decided now was a good time to reboot, I would ditch that OS in a heartbeat.
This is not a Windows bashing or Linux advocacy post, this is just my opinion on how ANY OS should work.
I don't know, maybe you can turn that option off in Windows. I haven't used Windows since 7, and I know I could back then. Has MS removed that from Win 10?
Cue systemd hating crowd blah blah slackware is the best, no "shitstemd", the unix way, tradition, "stupid package managers and who needs them", "it's like BSD but it's not BSD and I have no clue why I'm not running BSD if I admire it so much", etc....
Savvy?
I wouldn't want some monolithic daemon infecting my system even if it was GOOD, but the systemd virus sucks. It isn't good at a single aspect of what it has sucked in.
Probably not. They could probably use the "reasonable network management" clause to justify this.
However, what Title II would have prevented was what is going to come next: "Pay $XX.YY and get the Comcast Streaming Service(c) package! Stream in GLORIOUS HD! Package includes Netfix, and HBO. Package subject to change without notice."
To be fair, if the woman hadnâ(TM)t been jaywalking on a dimly lit street at night in front of oncoming traffic, the accident also wouldnâ(TM)t have happened. There were two people making poor decisions, their paths crossed, and one of them died because of it. It sucks.
The sensors detected her just fine, the software just decide: 'Ehhh fuck it -- I am not stopping"
It may not interest you, and if all they run is Windows, it doesn't interest me, but I would LOVE to have an SD845 (something that is available now) laptop that runs Linux. An SD850 would just be a bonus...
I don't do graphics editing on my laptop, or compiling, or (insert computationally intensive task here). I want a laptop that can run for 20 hours.
Hopefully someone like System76 will make a laptop out of one of these.
What is sad is that all the liberals that didn't come out last time will in 2020 to make sure this doesn't happen again.
I openly admit that I voted for Trump because I didn't want to see the blatant corruption get into office. Trump was a wild card. I admit he was a mistake, but I don't believe he was any more of a mistake than Hillary would have been.
This time I will vote for the candidate that I seem is best for the country. If that is an R that decides to run against Trump (if he runs again), or a D that i actually believe in (I believed in Sanders), or if neither the R or the D are worth a damn, I will go with another party.
Now, why don't I just pick the Libertarian party right now (since that is what I associate with the most)? Because I am not deluded, and realize the system is broken and can't be fixed with the ballot box. Also, I like to keep my options open. Keep an open mind. That is what more people in this country need to do.
I voted for Obama because I had hope. I voted for Trump because there was no hope. I have no idea who I will vote for in 2020, but you can bet your ass it won't be Trump.
So you don't want government to get involved unless it's something you want (but don't need) then they should. I suppose you feel the same about what other people want but dont need, like needing to eat, being educated, freedom from persecution, or any other such stupid pointless thing that would be far less important than having a phone with an unlocked bootloader?
I have dream that one day all men and women will have the right to a phone with an unlocked bootloader!
Is this article about food, or education, or persecution? No? OK then.
Since this article is about a technical aspect of our lives (and make no mistake, having a cell phone is pretty much mandatory in order to live a normal life these day), I will stay on that topic.
Some posts in this thread have suggested voting with our wallets. That is working for me -- for now. However, the number of phones that can have their bootloaders unlocked is going DOWN not UP.
This shouldn't just be about unlocking bootloaders. When you unlock the bootloader, what you are unlocking is aboot (sbl2, abl, etc depending on the manufacturer) also known as the apps bootloader. When you unlock it, it no longer checks the integrity of boot, recovery, and maybe a few other partitions.
What you CAN'T do, with ANY phone, is install a completely different bootstack / firmware (at least on SnapDragon based CPUs). On SD CPUs there is an RSA key that is stored in QFPROM (inside the CPU). When the PBL (Primary Boot Loader -- also contained inside the CPU) loads sbl1 (xbl on SD820 and later), it verifies the signature. If it doesn't match, then it won't load it. Every piece of the bootstack and firmware have an RSA signature.
I want the ability to COMPLETELY disable secure boot, so that I can run whatever I want. Do I have to develop it myself? Sure -- right now. There are no alternatives, because there can BE NO ALTERNATIVES.
A smartphone is just a PC that can make phone calls. With wireless display technology, and Bluetooth, my phone is more than capable of replacing my laptop. Is it going to be a gaming beast? Nope, but neither is my laptop.
If RSA signing had been around back when Phoenix was developing their BIOS clone, think where we would be today in terms of the PC. Actually, I can't imagine how bad it would be. I am sure there will be people that say that the market would have taken care of that. Maybe, but it also could have been a huge fragmented mess, and most likely they ALL would have RSA signed firmware.
I am against the government getting involved in most aspects of our lives, but this is flat out a case where government intervention is needed,
If a phone can't be unlocked so I can install whatever OS I want, then it should not be allowed to be imported into the USA.
This includes the iPhone...
If I pay $3000 for a top of the line laptop, I can install whatever OS I want. It may not work perfectly, but that is on me. If I pay $300 for a bottom basement laptop, I can still install whatever OS I want.
This has GOT to change with phones as well.
They try to give some bullshit about how it is to protect the network, but that is a load of horseshit.
When BitCoin was first started, I thought -- hmm that is neat, and started mining. I had mined at least 40 or 50 BTC and then I wasn't getting any more after a few months so I shut it down. BTC still wasn't worth anything, and you couldn't do anything with it like you can now, so I just left it and forgot about it.
I was getting rid of the PC that had the wallet on it, and didn't think twice when I shredded the drive. That could have bought me a fairly nice house. *sigh*
I do think BTC is a bubble -- right now, but there are only so many BTC to be mined, and once there are no more, I think the price will stabilize and it will be a useful currency -- even more useful than a government backed currency since no one can just "print" more.
I can understand the government not wanting another government spying on them, but as an individual, if I am going to have a government spying on me, I would rather that it be a foreign one.
One of the steps requires firmware update mode. As I stated in my post, the carriers don't NEED to include the ability to flash firmware. Some have already made it difficult to enter download mode, and if they pull it, then you won't be rooting your S8. The carrier branded LG G6 has yet to be rooted, and the LG V20 was only rooted because an engineering aboot leaked.
Notice I keep saying carrier branded. If you buy a developer phone direct from the OEM, then sure, you can root it very easily. The LG V20 US996 (and soon the V30 US998) are both on LG's "approved" to unlock list, and they come with full fastboot.
AT&T branded phones (I don't care who the OEM is) all get their updates encrypted, and OTA.
Rooting has faded on Android for the same reason as iOS -- damn near impossible, or completely impossible on most carrier branded phones.
Thank you Qualcomm. The QSEE (Qualcomm Secure Execution Environment) has pretty much ruined rooting when combined with Android TrustZone and SELinux. They pulled fastboot a while ago, and it is just a matter of time before all carriers do OTA upgrades and they pull firmware update / download mode.
There just really aren't any attack vectors anymore.
I am telling anyone that wants to root to buy a phone from a developer friendly OEM like OnePlus or Razer.
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This is why we desperately need a 3 Rd party. Both of the 2 majors do nothing but play with issues and fucking solve nothing.
What fuck-nut moderators are so far up the major parties asses that they felt the need to moderate this as troll or flamebait -- it is the FUCKING TRUTH.
If you modded that post troll or flamebait, your are 100% what is wrong with this country -- FUCK YOU!
If someone has a Facebook account at this point they are a fucking moron.
I love the rationale of: "That is the only way I can stay in touch with family and friends".
Yeah, really, then you are an even bigger moron, and you deserve everything that comes from your stupidity.
Yeah its called a hearing aid and does everything you want. Even has bluetooth now.
I can't tell if you are being a smart ass or just didn't read the requirements. The problem is output volume, not input volume.
It is just sad how PC the world has become. If you are offended -- go fuck yourself.
OMG we have some foul language in our source code -- need a PR now!
OMG the name of a package has the word boob in it -- MUST REMOVE NOW!
Fucking ridiculous.
Why do you care if people want keep their head in the sand and ignore the fact that Facebook cares not one bit about their privacy?
Heck I hope more people sign up. Then when there is some massive data breach, it just makes it all the more amusing for those of us that have no accounts, and go out of our way to foil their shadow profile builder as well.
ISP's are not responsible for anything their clients do.
They are a service provider. They have to provide a service without prejudice.
They don't have to monitor what the end users are doing. that would in fact be an invasion of privacy and probably be a human rights violation.
This is akin to blaming power companies for terrorism, as they used someones power while scheming their evil schemes.
That WAS the case when they were classified Title II -- common carriers. NOW they most certainly ARE liable, and I hope the RIAA wins every penny, and other ISPs wake up to the fact that they can be sued, and held criminally liable for:
* Allowing child porn (Oh I didn't know -- not an excuse anymore)
* Terrorist forums
* Software piracy
*
The Internet is a public utility that should be classified as Title II. I don't agree with this lawsuit, I think it is a load of horseshit. However, Cox wanted the FCC to revoke Title II, and now I hope they get what is coming to them. Can't have it both ways.
It just goes to show "Do No Evil" was complete and utter media theatre. Google will do anything for the almighty dollar!
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I am sure that when Larry and Sergey started Google, they had good intentions. I really believe that at the time that wanted to: "Do no evil". However, when the money starts flowing in, and the shareholders demand that the stock price keeps climbing, you start off with: "Well this isn't THAT evil". Eventually you end up with: "Fuck it, remove the slogan and let's conquer the world".
I assume your Linux distro isn't SystemD yet is it?
No it isn't. I use Gentoo.
I switched to Ubuntu, for a while, but when Debian decided to jump on the Lindows train by making systemD(oes not work) mandatory, I got off and switched back to a distro that cares about choice.
-- Brian
It baffles me how people tolerate their OS doing things they don't want it to.
Your ID is low enough that you have no excuse for this. Think back to all the stories of XP hosted botnets and the near-unanimous cry of Slashdot was "DON'T LET REGULAR USERS REFUSE PATCHES!!!"
Well, this is not letting users refuse patches indefinately. You got your wish, now stop whining about it.
Interesting, I am fairly certain that advocating for forced patching is nowhere in my post history. I have advocated for ISPs to cut access to users that have infected machines. If you can't keep your machine clean, then you don't belong on the Internet. I don't even like applications that auto-update. If I get something setup the way I like it, and it does what I want, no one needs to patch / upgrade / re-install / etc, but me.
-- Brian
What if I've left something open that I don't want to lose and leave it open for the night or keep it running overnight while not logged in? Yeah I know, save before you leave the machine for the former, but there are times I don't want to save changes yet and am just too stubborn to save to a temporary file and silly me expects a machine to continue running if I don't tell it to shut down...
It baffles me how people tolerate their OS doing things they don't want it to. If my OS just up and decided now was a good time to reboot, I would ditch that OS in a heartbeat.
This is not a Windows bashing or Linux advocacy post, this is just my opinion on how ANY OS should work.
I don't know, maybe you can turn that option off in Windows. I haven't used Windows since 7, and I know I could back then. Has MS removed that from Win 10?
-- Brian
Cue systemd hating crowd blah blah slackware is the best, no "shitstemd", the unix way, tradition, "stupid package managers and who needs them", "it's like BSD but it's not BSD and I have no clue why I'm not running BSD if I admire it so much", etc....
Savvy?
I wouldn't want some monolithic daemon infecting my system even if it was GOOD, but the systemd virus sucks. It isn't good at a single aspect of what it has sucked in.
TFA already said they are going to charge extra for 720p streaming.
If that is across the board, then that STILL would fall under the guise of network management.
When they charge extra for specific services, THAT is NOT network management.
Now, do I know that they are going to do this -- nope. However, if anyone here thinks that Comcast ISN'T going to do that -- you are on crack.
-- Brian
Probably not. They could probably use the "reasonable network management" clause to justify this.
However, what Title II would have prevented was what is going to come next: "Pay $XX.YY and get the Comcast Streaming Service(c) package! Stream in GLORIOUS HD! Package includes Netfix, and HBO. Package subject to change without notice."
Paid fast lanes.....
-- Brian
To be fair, if the woman hadnâ(TM)t been jaywalking on a dimly lit street at night in front of oncoming traffic, the accident also wouldnâ(TM)t have happened. There were two people making poor decisions, their paths crossed, and one of them died because of it. It sucks.
The sensors detected her just fine, the software just decide: 'Ehhh fuck it -- I am not stopping"
Source: https://arstechnica.com/tech-p...
I don't know about the OP, but I like being able to hibernate...
Yeah which would be achieved by the default. No need for any custom install there.
So 16gigs is going to hibernate on a 900meg swap partition? Now THAT is some compression.
A fresh, default install of 18.04 gives me a 900meg swap partition.
I'd be doing a custom install to have more swap space
Can I ask why? What's the point of extra swap space unless you're running Ubuntu on a potato?
I don't know about the OP, but I like being able to hibernate...
It may not interest you, and if all they run is Windows, it doesn't interest me, but I would LOVE to have an SD845 (something that is available now) laptop that runs Linux. An SD850 would just be a bonus...
I don't do graphics editing on my laptop, or compiling, or (insert computationally intensive task here). I want a laptop that can run for 20 hours.
Hopefully someone like System76 will make a laptop out of one of these.
What is sad is that all the liberals that didn't come out last time will in 2020 to make sure this doesn't happen again.
I openly admit that I voted for Trump because I didn't want to see the blatant corruption get into office. Trump was a wild card. I admit he was a mistake, but I don't believe he was any more of a mistake than Hillary would have been.
This time I will vote for the candidate that I seem is best for the country. If that is an R that decides to run against Trump (if he runs again), or a D that i actually believe in (I believed in Sanders), or if neither the R or the D are worth a damn, I will go with another party.
Now, why don't I just pick the Libertarian party right now (since that is what I associate with the most)? Because I am not deluded, and realize the system is broken and can't be fixed with the ballot box.
Also, I like to keep my options open. Keep an open mind. That is what more people in this country need to do.
I voted for Obama because I had hope. I voted for Trump because there was no hope. I have no idea who I will vote for in 2020, but you can bet your ass it won't be Trump.
So you don't want government to get involved unless it's something you want (but don't need) then they should. I suppose you feel the same about what other people want but dont need, like needing to eat, being educated, freedom from persecution, or any other such stupid pointless thing that would be far less important than having a phone with an unlocked bootloader?
I have dream that one day all men and women will have the right to a phone with an unlocked bootloader!
Is this article about food, or education, or persecution? No? OK then.
Since this article is about a technical aspect of our lives (and make no mistake, having a cell phone is pretty much mandatory in order to live a normal life these day), I will stay on that topic.
Some posts in this thread have suggested voting with our wallets. That is working for me -- for now. However, the number of phones that can have their bootloaders unlocked is going DOWN not UP.
This shouldn't just be about unlocking bootloaders. When you unlock the bootloader, what you are unlocking is aboot (sbl2, abl, etc depending on the manufacturer) also known as the apps bootloader. When you unlock it, it no longer checks the integrity of boot, recovery, and maybe a few other partitions.
What you CAN'T do, with ANY phone, is install a completely different bootstack / firmware (at least on SnapDragon based CPUs). On SD CPUs there is an RSA key that is stored in QFPROM (inside the CPU). When the PBL (Primary Boot Loader -- also contained inside the CPU) loads sbl1 (xbl on SD820 and later), it verifies the signature. If it doesn't match, then it won't load it. Every piece of the bootstack and firmware have an RSA signature.
I want the ability to COMPLETELY disable secure boot, so that I can run whatever I want. Do I have to develop it myself? Sure -- right now. There are no alternatives, because there can BE NO ALTERNATIVES.
A smartphone is just a PC that can make phone calls. With wireless display technology, and Bluetooth, my phone is more than capable of replacing my laptop. Is it going to be a gaming beast? Nope, but neither is my laptop.
If RSA signing had been around back when Phoenix was developing their BIOS clone, think where we would be today in terms of the PC. Actually, I can't imagine how bad it would be. I am sure there will be people that say that the market would have taken care of that. Maybe, but it also could have been a huge fragmented mess, and most likely they ALL would have RSA signed firmware.
I am against the government getting involved in most aspects of our lives, but this is flat out a case where government intervention is needed,
If a phone can't be unlocked so I can install whatever OS I want, then it should not be allowed to be imported into the USA.
This includes the iPhone...
If I pay $3000 for a top of the line laptop, I can install whatever OS I want. It may not work perfectly, but that is on me. If I pay $300 for a bottom basement laptop, I can still install whatever OS I want.
This has GOT to change with phones as well.
They try to give some bullshit about how it is to protect the network, but that is a load of horseshit.
I was really looking forward to an updated GUS :(
Glad I could help make yours worth more.
I didn't forget my password, I deleted my wallet.
When BitCoin was first started, I thought -- hmm that is neat, and started mining. I had mined at least 40 or 50 BTC and then I wasn't getting any more after a few months so I shut it down. BTC still wasn't worth anything, and you couldn't do anything with it like you can now, so I just left it and forgot about it.
I was getting rid of the PC that had the wallet on it, and didn't think twice when I shredded the drive. That could have bought me a fairly nice house. *sigh*
I do think BTC is a bubble -- right now, but there are only so many BTC to be mined, and once there are no more, I think the price will stabilize and it will be a useful currency -- even more useful than a government backed currency since no one can just "print" more.
I can understand the government not wanting another government spying on them, but as an individual, if I am going to have a government spying on me, I would rather that it be a foreign one.
LOL, your idea of "easier and safer" are a lot different than mine...
But let's agree to disagree on that point.
From: https://forum.xda-developers.c...
One of the steps requires firmware update mode. As I stated in my post, the carriers don't NEED to include the ability to flash firmware. Some have already made it difficult to enter download mode, and if they pull it, then you won't be rooting your S8. The carrier branded LG G6 has yet to be rooted, and the LG V20 was only rooted because an engineering aboot leaked.
Notice I keep saying carrier branded. If you buy a developer phone direct from the OEM, then sure, you can root it very easily. The LG V20 US996 (and soon the V30 US998) are both on LG's "approved" to unlock list, and they come with full fastboot.
AT&T branded phones (I don't care who the OEM is) all get their updates encrypted, and OTA.
Rooting has faded on Android for the same reason as iOS -- damn near impossible, or completely impossible on most carrier branded phones.
Thank you Qualcomm. The QSEE (Qualcomm Secure Execution Environment) has pretty much ruined rooting when combined with Android TrustZone and SELinux. They pulled fastboot a while ago, and it is just a matter of time before all carriers do OTA upgrades and they pull firmware update / download mode.
There just really aren't any attack vectors anymore.
I am telling anyone that wants to root to buy a phone from a developer friendly OEM like OnePlus or Razer.