even the rear windshield wiper is an extra 260 pounds.
Wiper elements themselves only weigh less than a pound, but there's a lot more to a wiper than just the blade and arm. There's a motor inside the car and electronics and wiring to control it and allow the driver to use a control stalk to turn it on and off and activate the washer.
That said, those numbers seem high -- I can't see why the wiper, motor, and wiring would weigh that much, 5,000 pounds is heavier than an entire car, satellite navigation, wheels, and brakes don't weigh as much as a car does, either -- I can't accept those numbers as real.
I'm talking about customers who didn't do anything wrong but that the company decided to shortchange for whatever reason and then when the customer says "hey, wait a second" stalls and doesn't do anything, and that's what makes the customers upset (not necessarily literally).
And don't say it doesn't happen. It's happened to me and I've never raised my voice in a store, ever.
Not my problem if a company can't get its act together. You expect me to have sympathy for a company that tries to screw me? I'm nice and polite, but I don't take well to being fucked with.
Yeah, that I can understand; I'm one of the "I hate shopping unless I know what I want" types. Not enough places actually toss out people who overstay their welcome, though. (and it would be perfectly justified. I always apologize if I have to stay past close, and if it's for food, tip extra, but I still try not to do it.)
Maybe I did respond to the wrong comment? I hate it when the thread indentation fails as it seems to when far enough in. But, I do have to disagree with this:
And for God's sake, don't come in five minutes before close. That's really asking for trouble.
While I'm polite enough to not do that myself, I can't agree that it's "asking for it" to come in before closing time. "It's almost time to quit" is not an excuse to stop doing one's job, nor is it an excuse to mistreat customers who see that the store is still open and will be for a bit longer. You stop serving at quitting time, and if you're being paid to do that job until that time, you don't complain about it OR harass people who expect you to follow your own posted hours.
Depends. You can always go to a competitor -- and if the business had just corrected its mistakes in the first place, it would have kept you as a customer. Besides, I think it would be pretty suspicious if I kept getting denied by clerks I'd never talked to before after complaining.
I haven't, either, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were not regulations in place that required restaurants to obey requests to not add item X if at all feasible due to the fact that customers can be allergic to the food in question. Requesting 'no pickles' is a perfectly sane request and could be a matter of life and death for that person.
And another comment to the same post hinted that 'contaminating' food is an acceptable response if the customer makes such a request. Tampering with food that is for another's consumption is certainly against the law. It's really pathetic that anyone could think such a thing is a valid response to feeling burdened by such a simple request.
It's a burden, to NOT do the bit of work required to put pickles on the burger?
The problem I had with the comment I replied to was the lying that was involved. Putting a note on an account that has an honest reason why the person should not be a customer is one thing. Outright lying is entirely different. If you're going to react to someone by outright lying in return and being an even bigger prick (if you cause a problem to someone that is bad enough to make them upset, being a prick is not a valid response), then you deserve what you get.
Nice. So the OP wanted to be treated like a human being and you're dissing him/her for refusing to cater to a reaction that dehumanized him/her? Wow.
Just because you think it's OK for people to be treated like that, other people don't think it's OK to be treated like that. Next time, put yourself into their shoes to see how it might feel before you open your mouth, or start typing something that so clearly says "You're wrong just because I wouldn't have done that".
and all you do by yelling at some poor kid is vent your frustrations and get a black mark like "URINATES ON DVDS--DO NOT RENT!!!" on your account.
And the company gets a complaint with the local BBB or other business licensing agency, and the receiving end of negative attention from a lawyer if the customer is angry enough about the blatant lies.
Reacting to being called on doing something wrong by treating someone badly will not come out well for you. If you do something stupid, whose fault is that but yours? It's not acceptable to try to feel better about yourself by blaming innocent people.
So it's OK for criminals to shoot people who come home in the middle of a robbery because that interfered with the robber's ability to make a buck? Seems like you think it's OK for people to do rude, distasteful, and unacceptable things just because it means they can make money off their behavior. It's not OK to do rude or otherwise bad things to other people "just because if I don't I won't get any money".
People are ruder than ever these days, and a lot of that is caused by spineless people who only care about money, more than they care about other people. Money is no justification for bad behavior.
Since they were the ones who screwed up, they should have had to pay to fix the problem. Next time they try to stick you with a bill for their stupidity, in ADDITION to dropping them as a customer, casually say that they'll be hearing from your lawyer regarding trying to defraud you by forcing you to pay for their mistake. Spark plug change is advertised as costing $x, you pay $x, not $x+$y fuckup fee.
Star Trek Online will be Windows only. It will fail.
That's funny. My MMORPG is City of Heroes/Villains. No Mac or Linux clients, but it does rather well. (It's one of the few apps I run on my games-only PC; if I ever get an Intel Mac, I'd certainly run the Mac version of the client should one be released). I'd certainly like to see platform parity -- Blizzard has always been good at that even though they seem to never actually release anything anymore. I don't want to play a hack and slash online fantasy RPG; I'm still waiting for Diablo 3. Blizzard, hello? I'd pay you for that.
And CoX has all the things that are being touted as making WoW great - good graphics, easy to find pickup games or you can join a supergroup (seem to be much like guilds) -- I'm in a great one that has lots of great people and has regularly-scheduled weekly events several days a week, regular expansions (next major update is probably going to be out in October); the paid expansion was cancelled and the stuff that would have been in it will be available to everyone.
It costs the same, too - $15 a month. And you don't just get one game for that monthly fee; you get both.
In no way do I feel like the game takes over my life. I find the time spent playing with others to be time well spent. It's just one of the various ways I pass the time.
MMORPGs don't have to be this negative thing that takes over your life unless you want them to be.
the fact that iTunes charges £7 for a DRMed version of the album without the little shiny jewel case seems a bit silly and I'm amazed how thick the ipod generation seems to be.
I'm sure there are people out there who would call you thick for cluttering your house up with CDs, jewel cases, etc., wasting space storing them, etc.
People aren't thick for having different preferences than you do. That casual dissing just comes across as elitist.
Except there's still the fact that the UK can't legally force a US site to block something. So they don't have any business throwing lawyers at the NYT.
I think I'll post a big fat photo of a WWII German airplane tail in my blog tonight. Don't like it? Tough, it's legal here.
I'm ending this debate, now, though, repeatedly arguing things that are wrong doesn't make them right. 'Bye.
And repeating over and over that a US website has to obey other countries' laws is not going to become any truer any time YOU spew it.
We disagree. I'm not going to all of a sudden start bowing down to someone who keeps telling me over and over the same damn thing no matter how many times I explain myself, so let's agree to disagree and leave it at that. That seems to be all Slashdot is good for these days, anyway.
I don't think I have missed the point of anything, but you are free to have your opinions. I have mine, and I have repeatedly stated them.
By the way, shooting across a border will get you into trouble because it's illegal to murder someone just about everywhere, so you'll get prosecuted on that fact anyway.
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even the rear windshield wiper is an extra 260 pounds.
Wiper elements themselves only weigh less than a pound, but there's a lot more to a wiper than just the blade and arm. There's a motor inside the car and electronics and wiring to control it and allow the driver to use a control stalk to turn it on and off and activate the washer.
That said, those numbers seem high -- I can't see why the wiper, motor, and wiring would weigh that much, 5,000 pounds is heavier than an entire car, satellite navigation, wheels, and brakes don't weigh as much as a car does, either -- I can't accept those numbers as real.
I'm talking about customers who didn't do anything wrong but that the company decided to shortchange for whatever reason and then when the customer says "hey, wait a second" stalls and doesn't do anything, and that's what makes the customers upset (not necessarily literally).
And don't say it doesn't happen. It's happened to me and I've never raised my voice in a store, ever.
Not my problem if a company can't get its act together. You expect me to have sympathy for a company that tries to screw me? I'm nice and polite, but I don't take well to being fucked with.
Well, I'm not a guy, but I'm glad you agree. ;)
Yeah, that I can understand; I'm one of the "I hate shopping unless I know what I want" types. Not enough places actually toss out people who overstay their welcome, though. (and it would be perfectly justified. I always apologize if I have to stay past close, and if it's for food, tip extra, but I still try not to do it.)
Maybe I did respond to the wrong comment? I hate it when the thread indentation fails as it seems to when far enough in. But, I do have to disagree with this:
And for God's sake, don't come in five minutes before close. That's really asking for trouble.
While I'm polite enough to not do that myself, I can't agree that it's "asking for it" to come in before closing time. "It's almost time to quit" is not an excuse to stop doing one's job, nor is it an excuse to mistreat customers who see that the store is still open and will be for a bit longer. You stop serving at quitting time, and if you're being paid to do that job until that time, you don't complain about it OR harass people who expect you to follow your own posted hours.
Depends. You can always go to a competitor -- and if the business had just corrected its mistakes in the first place, it would have kept you as a customer. Besides, I think it would be pretty suspicious if I kept getting denied by clerks I'd never talked to before after complaining.
I haven't, either, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were not regulations in place that required restaurants to obey requests to not add item X if at all feasible due to the fact that customers can be allergic to the food in question. Requesting 'no pickles' is a perfectly sane request and could be a matter of life and death for that person.
And another comment to the same post hinted that 'contaminating' food is an acceptable response if the customer makes such a request. Tampering with food that is for another's consumption is certainly against the law. It's really pathetic that anyone could think such a thing is a valid response to feeling burdened by such a simple request.
It's a burden, to NOT do the bit of work required to put pickles on the burger?
Wow.
The problem I had with the comment I replied to was the lying that was involved. Putting a note on an account that has an honest reason why the person should not be a customer is one thing. Outright lying is entirely different. If you're going to react to someone by outright lying in return and being an even bigger prick (if you cause a problem to someone that is bad enough to make them upset, being a prick is not a valid response), then you deserve what you get.
Nice. So the OP wanted to be treated like a human being and you're dissing him/her for refusing to cater to a reaction that dehumanized him/her? Wow.
Just because you think it's OK for people to be treated like that, other people don't think it's OK to be treated like that. Next time, put yourself into their shoes to see how it might feel before you open your mouth, or start typing something that so clearly says "You're wrong just because I wouldn't have done that".
How do those toes taste, by the way?
McDonalds' and Burger King are not privately-owned companies, however.
and all you do by yelling at some poor kid is vent your frustrations and get a black mark like "URINATES ON DVDS--DO NOT RENT!!!" on your account.
And the company gets a complaint with the local BBB or other business licensing agency, and the receiving end of negative attention from a lawyer if the customer is angry enough about the blatant lies.
Reacting to being called on doing something wrong by treating someone badly will not come out well for you. If you do something stupid, whose fault is that but yours? It's not acceptable to try to feel better about yourself by blaming innocent people.
So it's OK for criminals to shoot people who come home in the middle of a robbery because that interfered with the robber's ability to make a buck? Seems like you think it's OK for people to do rude, distasteful, and unacceptable things just because it means they can make money off their behavior. It's not OK to do rude or otherwise bad things to other people "just because if I don't I won't get any money".
People are ruder than ever these days, and a lot of that is caused by spineless people who only care about money, more than they care about other people. Money is no justification for bad behavior.
Since they were the ones who screwed up, they should have had to pay to fix the problem. Next time they try to stick you with a bill for their stupidity, in ADDITION to dropping them as a customer, casually say that they'll be hearing from your lawyer regarding trying to defraud you by forcing you to pay for their mistake. Spark plug change is advertised as costing $x, you pay $x, not $x+$y fuckup fee.
Hi. Do you always make passes this pathetic at us, loser?
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No, that's for when it plays a sound after each google search...
... "No! You want MSN!"
You assume it will even be possible to use Google
I have a BoA Visa. I've never seen a way to generate a onetime card number. How do I do this?
Star Trek Online will be Windows only. It will fail.
That's funny. My MMORPG is City of Heroes/Villains. No Mac or Linux clients, but it does rather well. (It's one of the few apps I run on my games-only PC; if I ever get an Intel Mac, I'd certainly run the Mac version of the client should one be released). I'd certainly like to see platform parity -- Blizzard has always been good at that even though they seem to never actually release anything anymore. I don't want to play a hack and slash online fantasy RPG; I'm still waiting for Diablo 3. Blizzard, hello? I'd pay you for that.
And CoX has all the things that are being touted as making WoW great - good graphics, easy to find pickup games or you can join a supergroup (seem to be much like guilds) -- I'm in a great one that has lots of great people and has regularly-scheduled weekly events several days a week, regular expansions (next major update is probably going to be out in October); the paid expansion was cancelled and the stuff that would have been in it will be available to everyone.
It costs the same, too - $15 a month. And you don't just get one game for that monthly fee; you get both.
In no way do I feel like the game takes over my life. I find the time spent playing with others to be time well spent. It's just one of the various ways I pass the time.
MMORPGs don't have to be this negative thing that takes over your life unless you want them to be.
the fact that iTunes charges £7 for a DRMed version of the album without the little shiny jewel case seems a bit silly and I'm amazed how thick the ipod generation seems to be.
I'm sure there are people out there who would call you thick for cluttering your house up with CDs, jewel cases, etc., wasting space storing them, etc.
People aren't thick for having different preferences than you do. That casual dissing just comes across as elitist.
Not all artists who publish via the iTMS are part of the RIAA. (or their labels, or whatever is the best description).
Except there's still the fact that the UK can't legally force a US site to block something. So they don't have any business throwing lawyers at the NYT.
I think I'll post a big fat photo of a WWII German airplane tail in my blog tonight. Don't like it? Tough, it's legal here.
I'm ending this debate, now, though, repeatedly arguing things that are wrong doesn't make them right. 'Bye.
That's why I've said I want to see the Times explain EVERYTHING. It owes that to its readers.
And repeating over and over that a US website has to obey other countries' laws is not going to become any truer any time YOU spew it.
We disagree. I'm not going to all of a sudden start bowing down to someone who keeps telling me over and over the same damn thing no matter how many times I explain myself, so let's agree to disagree and leave it at that. That seems to be all Slashdot is good for these days, anyway.
Sure ... and those different responsibilities include the fact that in their local area they have to follow local laws.
I don't think I have missed the point of anything, but you are free to have your opinions. I have mine, and I have repeatedly stated them.
By the way, shooting across a border will get you into trouble because it's illegal to murder someone just about everywhere, so you'll get prosecuted on that fact anyway.