Before you buy, be sure to review the model information on the "Linux Laptops page"
If your laptop model is not there, I'd think a bit before buying it. I've had great success with Linux on a few IBM notebooks (old and newer) with a little help from this website.
Hope this helps.
FYI This is to stop the credit bureaus from releasing information about you for pre-approved credit offers. (888-5-opt-out) 1-888-567-8688
is the number to dial.
For more information about this number, please see this site.
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please email me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com.
The number was inaccurate, but that's the fault of my memory. The source is Barna research, a Christian researcher who collects information on trends within our culture.
The percentage of people in the US who identify themselves as Christian is about 85%. Those climing to be born again are about 40% of the country.
BTW - I'd be very interested to hear from you directly about why you feel that "born again" Christians are hokey and participating in a scam. Please email me directly, since this discussion is WAY OT.
Respectfully,
Anomaly
Are you suggesting that GHWB lost because Mr. Clinton was pro-atheist, and GHWB was anti-atheist?
BTW - thanks for the link.
I find the page a bit biased - for example, suggesting that all of the representatives in Congress are cowards for not defending the rights of athiests.
It seems a bit of an exaggeration to suggest 2.2 million atheists have served in the military since WWII. I admit little to back that up, but the author making that assertion offers no backing for his belief in that number. It seems unlikely because the vast majority of Americans claim to be believers in God.
In fact, a majority of Americans (something like 60%) claim to be "born again Christians."
I find this number unlikely, but I can see why congress-people might tend to side with the majority who claim belief in God rather than the minority who assert that He does not exist.
Thanks for the link, and the clarification that it was GHWB and not GWB.
I have been a game player for a very long time. I enjoy computer games quite a bit.
I should say that I have played Quake, SOF, and EliteForce recently.
I also have played lots of other games. I love the realism and beauty in the computer graphics, and am constantly mazed at the advances in technology.
Here's where I get stuck: Why can't there be more games like SimCityClassic where there's not gross violence and certainly no sexuality?
Why must the games we play appeal to the more prurient parts of our lives? Being exposed to graphic violence is damaging, and the reason that I play SOF with low violence, and limit the amount of time I spend letting that feed my brain.
Certainly being exposed to pornography has an effect on people, too. It objectifies women, and lowers the value that we place on them as individuals.
I'm all for having games produced that don't glorify sex and violence, and want to be able to play them.
Please, produce more wholesome games, and you'll sell more copies!
The movie industry refuses to produce very many qholesome movies, even though they know that the ones generating the most revenue are never "R" rated. Why is that?
Regards,
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please email me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com.
"Natural selection is not random"
Umm. Did I assert that it is? The subject reads "Creationists" not "people opposing natural selection." I don't dismiss natural selection. It's an observable, repeatable process. Macro-evolution, on the other hand.....
"How do you know?"
For God so loved the world that he gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him might have eternal life.
John 3:16
You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.
Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die.
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:6,7,8
He does love you. He has your number, and His messengers. Consider this a ringing telephone, an email hitting your inbox, or a doorbell resounding.
I'm not God, just one of His millions of messengers - people following the commandment to go throough all of the world proclaiming Him. Slashdot just happens to be on my "delivery route."
With all due respect, in what way is the so-called "reproductive right" of women being constrained?
In the US, you are free to choose to abort your fetus if you desire to do so.
The social status of women is limited? In my "Fortune 100" company, the stated goal is to double the number of women and minorities in senior executive positions. Sounds like a good time to be a woman or a minority, if you work for my company.
I'm displeased with our current social valuation of life in general.
Scientifically, all of the necessary genetic material is in place for a person at the time of conception, and viability is a moving target rapidly approaching the time that the sperm penetrates the egg.
The question becomes, at what point does your self-declared 'reproductive right' stop, and the fetus' consittutionally defined 'human rights' begin?
Additionally the "right-to-die" movement is tearing down barriers that protect the weak and ill.
It won't be long now until people like my grandparents are put to death because of "poor quality of life." (My grandfather has alzheimer's disease, and my grandmother exhibits signs of has senile dementia sometimes.)
I know my position is unpopular, but what is right is frequently unpopular, and what is popular is not always right. (eg Jewish persecution in Germany 70 years ago.)
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
"we've seen the end of religious philosophy as the major force in the world"
With all due respect, I disagree with this assertion.
We've seen a substantive shift in religious philosophy, but our current religious heavyweights seem to be scientific naturalism, materialism, pragmatism, and existentialism.
We haven't rejected "religious philosophy." We're simply adherents to a new religion.
Christianity, once a broadly accepted philosophy within the US, has become so watered down within the mainstream of American churches that it essentially compromises the basic message of the original texts.
Authentic Christianity is world-changing. The foundation of the church was a band of 12 rag-tag men from different parts of society. Their non-violent message changed the known world in a profound way.
Profound changes are occurring once again, but these philosophical shifts are leading to "money-grubbing and power-mongering as the predominant forces " not to mention self-actualization and personal fulfillment.
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
"Religion encourage blind faith, which is lulls the mind and stops the critical thinking process."
As a Christian, I take exception to this idea. We have such short memories.
We must have forgotten that many major breakthroughs in science were discovered by Christians.
Think of Galileo, Pascal, Kepler, and many many more who used scientific principles and thought to bring glory to the God they worship.
Science has as its basis the concept of reasonable thought - an ordered universe. This is entirely consistent with a Christian worldview.
BTW - If we're here as a result of random processes, how can you say that your thoughts are ordered?
Respectfully,
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you want to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
I work in the IT department for a very large company. We have some smart guys who work very hard to make sure that PCs work. By this I mean that all of the devices in the box work properly, that users can take their off-the-shelf commodity PCs and actually use them to communicate with our business IT systems.
We create "enterprise clients" from "PCs."
What we're finding is that the cost to maintain the PCs is incredibly high. Of course, the cost of software licensing, auditing licensed software, etc is not tiny.
We're looking to find a cheap solution that allows users to have access to the software tools they need and at the same time is inexpensive to maintain. Users today install software on their PCs which cause those devices to no longer work in our environment. (AOL 6.0 anyone?)
We've looked at MetaFrame/Terminal server, which simplifies the device at the user's desk, but adds cost on the back end. Additionally, we get to pay full software license costs for all users, including CALs. It's not cheap, but it is cheaper than distributed systems.
BTW - license compliance isn't something we can ignore if we use Open Source. I've recently witnessed/participated in a great debate in the Ximian-Evolution channel about whether the OpenLDAP license is compatible with the GPL. This sort of thing is a BIG deal to Fortune 1000 companies. Open Source is great in a large number of ways, but IS NOT a panacea!
I've inquired with SCO about Tarantella, and am waiting for information from them.
I'm not looking to get everything for free, just hoping for a paradigm shift that lowers overall costs!
It doesn't really matter what the OS is that's running on all of those distributed PCs. Whether it's Linux, Windows, Mac OS, or anything else, the complexity lies at the user end. Reducing that complexity reduces cost of management.
It's a business thing. Does the device help us make money, or does it cause us to lose money? Is the distributed, unlocked PC a good investment, or is it a money-loser?
Sorry to be rambling here, but I've been scratching my head for quite a while about this one. If we had a cheap XTerm type device which also spoke ICA, that would be nice.
God loves the Chinese people, and those who run their government, but I'm confident that He hates the opression of their people by the Chinese government.
The Chinese government imprisons its people without benefit of a trial, beats and imprisons Christians, forces women to have abortions (Bringing new meaning to "keep your laws off my body" - that's an example of real opression!) and makes every effort to ignore our complaints about human rights.
If we really believe that there are inalienable rights endowed to all men by our creator, then we must see the Chinese government's position as opposed to promoting those inalienable rights.
That's what I meant.
BTW - God loves you, just as much as he loves the Chinese leaders, and the Chinese people. If you want to know more, Mr. AC, please contact me.
normally I don't respond to ACs, but this one emailed me privately after posting this to the discussion, so I thought I'd post my response publicly after sending it directly to him.
> Where do you think our nuke missiles point?
Do you think we have nukes pointed at people who don't have nukes pointed at us? That's the deal. If they spin down their birds, we spin ours down.
> Where do you think a big chunk of OUR tax dollars go into? Military.
As they should. We have lots of interests to protect.
> For what? When's the last time the Chinese had bombed a US Embassy?
When's the last time they stole our nuke sub secrets, or our navy secrets, or our army secrets?
> When's the last time we've bombed THEIR'S?
That was a NATO accident. We were wrong. And we apologized.
> You are naive to think that the US doesn't spy on the Chinese.
> Hell, we consider the recon flight *ROUTINE*.
I never said that we don't. Of course we do. But we do it within the rules of fieldcraft. In this incident, they broke the rules, one of
their people died, and now they are holding our citizens hostage.
> Those weren't US citizens,
Sure they are. you can't be in the military unless you're a citizen.
> those were SOLDIERS on a MILTIARY aircraft,
Right.
> they landed in a country they were SPYING on,
> and they are being DETAINED and treated WELL.
Oh thank you thank you thank you for taking care of our people,
why what do we owe you for providing for the needs of our
people?
They landed in China because they were attacked by a Chinese warplane
and the alternatives were to crash in the ocean and die or land in
China. If China had not attacked a plane over int'l waters doing what
was legal by int'l law to do, they would not be there. Period
> Hostage implies a threat of force, there is none here.
With the Chinese government, there is always the threat of force.
> Hell, what would you do if I stand accross the street from you,
> and watch your wife strip and shower?
1. Close the blinds
2. Call the police and report a "peeping tom"
3. Ask my wife to perform step 1 before her next shower
> I'm not on your property, right? Now what if I
> dropped my binocs over your fence and climbed it to retrieve it?
Then I'd tell you to get off my property, tresspasser.
I might call the police, too. Let's say that you were standing on
stilts outside my fence. What I would NOT do is whack you over the head
from behind so that you fell over my fenceinto my yard, and hold you
under armed guard for an indeterminate period of time until you
apoligized for falling into my yard.
If what we were doing was illegal, what China should have done is
complain to the UN. It was not illegal, so they have no reason to
complain. They need to suck it up and apoligize for whacking us over
the head from behind.
Absolutely NOT! War is awful, brutal, and horrible. War is not like Rambo, and that is abundantly clear.
There are times when it is unavoidable. I'm not saying that we should go to war with the Chinese. I'm just saying that it offends me to think that the Chinese government should expect us to cowtow to their demands. We are not to blame for this incident. Our people should be home. Now. They need to let them go, and give us our plane back.
FWIW, I don't think that God is a great fan of war, but I think that He knows sometimes you must stand up to evil. Anomaly
no one was calling China an "enemy" until January 20th,
I disagree. The Chinese leaders have been philosophically opposed to the US for a very long time. They have made every effort to get the upper hand in every way.
You may see this as "the way of the world" but I see it as a country that would very much like to abolish the freedoms that we have in this country.
The Chinese government is as much our enemy as the USSR ever was.
It takes about 5 minutes to target a missile.
My understanding is that the guidance computers in those systems are sufficiently primitive that it requires a substantive effort to reprogram them They are programmed with targets because it is assumed that there would not be time to meaningfully program them in the event of a nuclear war.
they are not being used. So chill out.
Are you familiar with the term "mutually assured destruction?" A theory of deterrence based on NOT using missiles!
Even if they are not in flight at this time, they are a threat to us.
some of the money we get from our economic ties with them end up in our defense systems
The imbalance of trade is such that effectively zero dollars from the Chinese economy goes toward defense, and the entirety of their defense budget is paid by our purchases.
When you buy that cooling fan, or dog's chew toy, or baby stroller, you're effectively giving that money directly to their military so they can build more missles to point at us.
a simple "I'm sorry" would have our crew home within hours,
I'm immediately reminded of Neville Chamberlain:
"We, the German Führer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.
We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.
We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe." Chamberlain read the above statement in front of 10 Downing St. and said:
"My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time...
Go home and get a nice quiet sleep."
You're right. "Sorry China. We're afraid of you and want to kiss up to you in spite of the fact that you blew it." It is a game. We both played by the rules, edging toward the limits of the rules and they fell over the line. When that happens, the one who fell apologizes. Period. Now lets have their apology and be done with it.
After the NATO screw-up, Mr. Clinton apologized like crazy, and this was their response: "They were so indifferent. They simply said, 'Well, we're sorry.' Then they shrugged their shoulders and walked away," said Li Zhaoxing, China's ambassador to Washington.
It's just not that simple, as much as I'd like it to be that simple. In this case, their desire to save face is conflicting with the need to apologize.
I hope that the crew was really able to destroy the OS and data on the systems on the plane before it was captured.
I want them home, too. My heart goes out to them, but they are players in the big game of international relations, and the other side has captured our pawns.
They have nuclear missles targeted on our cities RIGHT NOW!
They take the monies we pay them to make our kids toys and computer parts and use them to build defensive systems to use in attacking us! The money that flows from US purchases more than funds all of their military infrastructure, in spite of the 18% budget increase given to the military this year.
They have bribed unscrupulous US citizens into stealing military secrets in a campaign of espionage against us.
Just recently they attempted to purchase a building overlooking the Pentagon so they could advance their spy efforts.
This is one of the many reasons that I make every effort to avoid buying Chinese made products.
OF COURSE WE SPY ON THEM!
With respect to this incident, we were flying a slow plane on autopilot over international waters to listen to their emissions.
They were playing chicken with us, and messed up big-time. They collided with us while they were trying to intimidate us, and THEY caused this incident.
They are now holding 24 US citizens hostage, as well as scouring the plane for military secrets, and _WE_ should say "sorry?"
I'm simply incredulous.
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
"The wisest man who ever lived said it this way:
Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil."
God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you want to know more about this, please email me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
One thing that has me wondering is this: if the universe can expand forever, how could there have been a Big Bang in the first place? Are the rules different for this universe than they were for the last one?
Ok, I can appreciate that you don't believe this asertion, but have you ever looked at the evidence for the resurrection?
I'd be willing to be at least even money that you haven't.
Rejecting something that sounds implausible when you have never investigated it is really not a great idea.
If you are open minded enough to investigate this rather than simply rejecting it based on your religoius beliefs, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
The book goes on in some detail about this "god" instructing a man to kill his own son, which he does.
I presume that you're referring to Abraham and Isaac. Abraham was a righteous man who loved his son, perhaps a bit too much. God told Abraham to sacrifice his son - this was to shape Abraham's character - so that Abraham would be clear on where the allegiance lies.
Where you get it wrong is that Abraham did NOT kill his son. He was obedient, even to the point of tying Isaac on the altar, and holding the knife over him - but just as he was ready to strike the fatal blow, God stopped Abraham, and showed him the ram (trapped in the bushes) to use as a sacrifice.
If you're going to bust on the Bible, for God's sake, get it right! (and I do mean for His sake)
The most violent act in the Bible is the one where God Himself steps down from heaven and lives as a man, and then is put to death by evil men - for the sins of each of us!!!!!
"God demonstrates his love for us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you want to know more, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
Could God stop you from committing suicide? Certainly. Would He? No.
He would not because this would mean that you were being compelled to obey. He gives people free will to choose whether to do what is right, or do what is wrong.
God tolerates evil in the world because He is merciful - He wants all people to follow Him.
If God were to wipe out evil, He would wipe us all out. It's His mercy that allows us to continue to be here.
Slashdot Mirror
Whatever the market will bear.
Baseball is BIG business. The value of a product is determined by the perceived value to the one who has the funds.
My guess is that they will sell quite a few of these. Good for them. I hope that they are very successful.
Before you buy, be sure to review the model information on the "Linux Laptops page"
If your laptop model is not there, I'd think a bit before buying it.
I've had great success with Linux on a few IBM notebooks (old and newer) with a little help from this website.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Anomaly
FYI This is to stop the credit bureaus from releasing information about you for pre-approved credit offers. (888-5-opt-out) 1-888-567-8688 is the number to dial.
For more information about this number, please see this site.
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please email me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com.
The number was inaccurate, but that's the fault of my memory. The source is Barna research, a Christian researcher who collects information on trends within our culture.
The percentage of people in the US who identify themselves as Christian is about 85%. Those climing to be born again are about 40% of the country.
Barna Research
BTW - I'd be very interested to hear from you directly about why you feel that "born again" Christians are hokey and participating in a scam. Please email me directly, since this discussion is WAY OT. Respectfully, Anomaly
Are you suggesting that GHWB lost because Mr. Clinton was pro-atheist, and GHWB was anti-atheist?
BTW - thanks for the link.
I find the page a bit biased - for example, suggesting that all of the representatives in Congress are cowards for not defending the rights of athiests.
It seems a bit of an exaggeration to suggest 2.2 million atheists have served in the military since WWII. I admit little to back that up, but the author making that assertion offers no backing for his belief in that number. It seems unlikely because the vast majority of Americans claim to be believers in God.
In fact, a majority of Americans (something like 60%) claim to be "born again Christians."
I find this number unlikely, but I can see why congress-people might tend to side with the majority who claim belief in God rather than the minority who assert that He does not exist.
Thanks for the link, and the clarification that it was GHWB and not GWB.
I have been a game player for a very long time. I enjoy computer games quite a bit.
I should say that I have played Quake, SOF, and EliteForce recently.
I also have played lots of other games. I love the realism and beauty in the computer graphics, and am constantly mazed at the advances in technology.
Here's where I get stuck: Why can't there be more games like SimCityClassic where there's not gross violence and certainly no sexuality?
Why must the games we play appeal to the more prurient parts of our lives? Being exposed to graphic violence is damaging, and the reason that I play SOF with low violence, and limit the amount of time I spend letting that feed my brain.
Certainly being exposed to pornography has an effect on people, too. It objectifies women, and lowers the value that we place on them as individuals.
I'm all for having games produced that don't glorify sex and violence, and want to be able to play them.
Please, produce more wholesome games, and you'll sell more copies!
The movie industry refuses to produce very many qholesome movies, even though they know that the ones generating the most revenue are never "R" rated. Why is that?
Regards,
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please email me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com.
"Natural selection is not random"
Umm. Did I assert that it is? The subject reads "Creationists" not "people opposing natural selection." I don't dismiss natural selection. It's an observable, repeatable process. Macro-evolution, on the other hand.....
"How do you know?"
For God so loved the world that he gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him might have eternal life.
John 3:16
You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.
Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die.
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:6,7,8
He does love you. He has your number, and His messengers. Consider this a ringing telephone, an email hitting your inbox, or a doorbell resounding.
I'm not God, just one of His millions of messengers - people following the commandment to go throough all of the world proclaiming Him. Slashdot just happens to be on my "delivery route."
Respectfully,
Anomaly
With all due respect, in what way is the so-called "reproductive right" of women being constrained?
In the US, you are free to choose to abort your fetus if you desire to do so.
The social status of women is limited? In my "Fortune 100" company, the stated goal is to double the number of women and minorities in senior executive positions. Sounds like a good time to be a woman or a minority, if you work for my company.
I'm displeased with our current social valuation of life in general.
Scientifically, all of the necessary genetic material is in place for a person at the time of conception, and viability is a moving target rapidly approaching the time that the sperm penetrates the egg.
The question becomes, at what point does your self-declared 'reproductive right' stop, and the fetus' consittutionally defined 'human rights' begin?
Additionally the "right-to-die" movement is tearing down barriers that protect the weak and ill.
It won't be long now until people like my grandparents are put to death because of "poor quality of life." (My grandfather has alzheimer's disease, and my grandmother exhibits signs of has senile dementia sometimes.)
I know my position is unpopular, but what is right is frequently unpopular, and what is popular is not always right. (eg Jewish persecution in Germany 70 years ago.)
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
"we've seen the end of religious philosophy as the major force in the world"
With all due respect, I disagree with this assertion.
We've seen a substantive shift in religious philosophy, but our current religious heavyweights seem to be scientific naturalism, materialism, pragmatism, and existentialism.
We haven't rejected "religious philosophy." We're simply adherents to a new religion.
Christianity, once a broadly accepted philosophy within the US, has become so watered down within the mainstream of American churches that it essentially compromises the basic message of the original texts.
Authentic Christianity is world-changing. The foundation of the church was a band of 12 rag-tag men from different parts of society. Their non-violent message changed the known world in a profound way.
Profound changes are occurring once again, but these philosophical shifts are leading to "money-grubbing and power-mongering as the predominant forces " not to mention self-actualization and personal fulfillment.
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
"Religion encourage blind faith, which is lulls the mind and stops the critical thinking process."
As a Christian, I take exception to this idea. We have such short memories.
We must have forgotten that many major breakthroughs in science were discovered by Christians.
Think of Galileo, Pascal, Kepler, and many many more who used scientific principles and thought to bring glory to the God they worship.
Science has as its basis the concept of reasonable thought - an ordered universe. This is entirely consistent with a Christian worldview.
BTW - If we're here as a result of random processes, how can you say that your thoughts are ordered?
Respectfully,
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you want to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
*LOL*
I work in the IT department for a very large company. We have some smart guys who work very hard to make sure that PCs work. By this I mean that all of the devices in the box work properly, that users can take their off-the-shelf commodity PCs and actually use them to communicate with our business IT systems.
We create "enterprise clients" from "PCs."
What we're finding is that the cost to maintain the PCs is incredibly high. Of course, the cost of software licensing, auditing licensed software, etc is not tiny.
We're looking to find a cheap solution that allows users to have access to the software tools they need and at the same time is inexpensive to maintain. Users today install software on their PCs which cause those devices to no longer work in our environment. (AOL 6.0 anyone?)
We've looked at MetaFrame/Terminal server, which simplifies the device at the user's desk, but adds cost on the back end. Additionally, we get to pay full software license costs for all users, including CALs. It's not cheap, but it is cheaper than distributed systems.
BTW - license compliance isn't something we can ignore if we use Open Source. I've recently witnessed/participated in a great debate in the Ximian-Evolution channel about whether the OpenLDAP license is compatible with the GPL. This sort of thing is a BIG deal to Fortune 1000 companies. Open Source is great in a large number of ways, but IS NOT a panacea!
I've inquired with SCO about Tarantella, and am waiting for information from them.
I'm not looking to get everything for free, just hoping for a paradigm shift that lowers overall costs!
It doesn't really matter what the OS is that's running on all of those distributed PCs. Whether it's Linux, Windows, Mac OS, or anything else, the complexity lies at the user end. Reducing that complexity reduces cost of management.
It's a business thing. Does the device help us make money, or does it cause us to lose money? Is the distributed, unlocked PC a good investment, or is it a money-loser?
Sorry to be rambling here, but I've been scratching my head for quite a while about this one. If we had a cheap XTerm type device which also spoke ICA, that would be nice.
Does anyone have any brilliant ideas about this?
Regards,
Anomaly
God loves the Chinese people, and those who run their government, but I'm confident that He hates the opression of their people by the Chinese government.
The Chinese government imprisons its people without benefit of a trial, beats and imprisons Christians, forces women to have abortions (Bringing new meaning to "keep your laws off my body" - that's an example of real opression!) and makes every effort to ignore our complaints about human rights.
If we really believe that there are inalienable rights endowed to all men by our creator, then we must see the Chinese government's position as opposed to promoting those inalienable rights.
That's what I meant.
BTW - God loves you, just as much as he loves the Chinese leaders, and the Chinese people. If you want to know more, Mr. AC, please contact me.
Give me a break!
Katz' article is a troll.
My post should be modded "YHBT YHL"
normally I don't respond to ACs, but this one emailed me privately after posting this to the discussion, so I thought I'd post my response publicly after sending it directly to him.
> Where do you think our nuke missiles point?
Do you think we have nukes pointed at people who don't have nukes pointed at us? That's the deal. If they spin down their birds, we spin ours down.
> Where do you think a big chunk of OUR tax dollars go into? Military.
As they should. We have lots of interests to protect.
> For what? When's the last time the Chinese had bombed a US Embassy?
When's the last time they stole our nuke sub secrets, or our navy secrets, or our army secrets?
> When's the last time we've bombed THEIR'S?
That was a NATO accident. We were wrong. And we apologized.
> You are naive to think that the US doesn't spy on the Chinese.
> Hell, we consider the recon flight *ROUTINE*.
I never said that we don't. Of course we do. But we do it within the rules of fieldcraft. In this incident, they broke the rules, one of
their people died, and now they are holding our citizens hostage.
> Those weren't US citizens,
Sure they are. you can't be in the military unless you're a citizen.
> those were SOLDIERS on a MILTIARY aircraft,
Right.
> they landed in a country they were SPYING on,
> and they are being DETAINED and treated WELL.
Oh thank you thank you thank you for taking care of our people,
why what do we owe you for providing for the needs of our
people?
They landed in China because they were attacked by a Chinese warplane
and the alternatives were to crash in the ocean and die or land in
China. If China had not attacked a plane over int'l waters doing what
was legal by int'l law to do, they would not be there. Period
> Hostage implies a threat of force, there is none here.
With the Chinese government, there is always the threat of force.
> Hell, what would you do if I stand accross the street from you,
> and watch your wife strip and shower?
1. Close the blinds
2. Call the police and report a "peeping tom"
3. Ask my wife to perform step 1 before her next shower
> I'm not on your property, right? Now what if I
> dropped my binocs over your fence and climbed it to retrieve it?
Then I'd tell you to get off my property, tresspasser.
I might call the police, too. Let's say that you were standing on
stilts outside my fence. What I would NOT do is whack you over the head
from behind so that you fell over my fenceinto my yard, and hold you
under armed guard for an indeterminate period of time until you
apoligized for falling into my yard.
If what we were doing was illegal, what China should have done is
complain to the UN. It was not illegal, so they have no reason to
complain. They need to suck it up and apoligize for whacking us over
the head from behind.
Regards,
Anomaly
So you think War is fun?
Absolutely NOT!
War is awful, brutal, and horrible. War is not like Rambo, and that is abundantly clear.
There are times when it is unavoidable.
I'm not saying that we should go to war with the Chinese. I'm just saying that it offends me to think that the Chinese government should expect us to cowtow to their demands.
We are not to blame for this incident. Our people should be home.
Now.
They need to let them go, and give us our plane back.
FWIW, I don't think that God is a great fan of war, but I think that He knows sometimes you must stand up to evil.
Anomaly
no one was calling China an "enemy" until January 20th,
I disagree. The Chinese leaders have been philosophically opposed to the US for a very long time. They have made every effort to get the upper hand in every way.
You may see this as "the way of the world" but I see it as a country that would very much like to abolish the freedoms that we have in this country.
The Chinese government is as much our enemy as the USSR ever was.
It takes about 5 minutes to target a missile.
My understanding is that the guidance computers in those systems are sufficiently primitive that it requires a substantive effort to reprogram them They are programmed with targets because it is assumed that there would not be time to meaningfully program them in the event of a nuclear war.
they are not being used. So chill out.
Are you familiar with the term "mutually assured destruction?"
A theory of deterrence based on NOT using missiles!
Even if they are not in flight at this time, they are a threat to us.
some of the money we get from our economic ties with them end up in our defense systems The imbalance of trade is such that effectively zero dollars from the Chinese economy goes toward defense, and the entirety of their defense budget is paid by our purchases.
When you buy that cooling fan, or dog's chew toy, or baby stroller, you're effectively giving that money directly to their military so they can build more missles to point at us.
a simple "I'm sorry" would have our crew home within hours,
I'm immediately reminded of Neville Chamberlain:
"We, the German Führer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe. We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again. We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe." Chamberlain read the above statement in front of 10 Downing St. and said: "My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time... Go home and get a nice quiet sleep."
You're right. "Sorry China. We're afraid of you and want to kiss up to you in spite of the fact that you blew it." It is a game. We both played by the rules, edging toward the limits of the rules and they fell over the line. When that happens, the one who fell apologizes. Period. Now lets have their apology and be done with it.
After the NATO screw-up, Mr. Clinton apologized like crazy, and this was their response:
"They were so indifferent. They simply said, 'Well, we're sorry.' Then they shrugged their shoulders and walked away," said Li Zhaoxing, China's ambassador to Washington.
It's just not that simple, as much as I'd like it to be that simple. In this case, their desire to save face is conflicting with the need to apologize.
I hope that the crew was really able to destroy the OS and data on the systems on the plane before it was captured.
I want them home, too. My heart goes out to them, but they are players in the big game of international relations, and the other side has captured our pawns.
Stinks to be them.
I'm praying for them.
Hmmm build DEFENSIVE systems to use in ATTACKING...
I was using the "1984 speak" that we've all adopted.
Didja ever notice that the War department was renamed the defense department?
The Chinese government is our enemy.
They have nuclear missles targeted on our cities RIGHT NOW!
They take the monies we pay them to make our kids toys and computer parts and use them to build defensive systems to use in attacking us! The money that flows from US purchases more than funds all of their military infrastructure, in spite of the 18% budget increase given to the military this year.
They have bribed unscrupulous US citizens into stealing military secrets in a campaign of espionage against us.
Just recently they attempted to purchase a building overlooking the Pentagon so they could advance their spy efforts.
This is one of the many reasons that I make every effort to avoid buying Chinese made products.
OF COURSE WE SPY ON THEM!
With respect to this incident, we were flying a slow plane on autopilot over international waters to listen to their emissions.
They were playing chicken with us, and messed up big-time. They collided with us while they were trying to intimidate us, and THEY caused this incident.
They are now holding 24 US citizens hostage, as well as scouring the plane for military secrets, and _WE_ should say "sorry?"
I'm simply incredulous.
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you would like to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
There IS a point to life.
"The wisest man who ever lived said it this way:
Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil."
God loves you and longs for relationship with you. If you want to know more about this, please email me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
One thing that has me wondering is this: if the universe can expand forever, how could there have been a Big Bang in the first place? Are the rules different for this universe than they were for the last one?
Anomaly
Ok, I can appreciate that you don't believe this asertion, but have you ever looked at the evidence for the resurrection?
I'd be willing to be at least even money that you haven't.
Rejecting something that sounds implausible when you have never investigated it is really not a great idea.
If you are open minded enough to investigate this rather than simply rejecting it based on your religoius beliefs, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
If all he did was claim to be God, then you are correct. He demonstrated his deity by being raised from the dead.
The ressurection is one of many ways that Christ differentiated himself from those others.
God loves you, too. If you want to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
If all he did was claim to be God, then you are correct. He demonstrated his deity by being raised from the dead.
The ressurection is one of many ways that Christ differentiated himself from those others.
God loves you, too. If you want to know more about this, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
The book goes on in some detail about this "god" instructing a man to kill his own son, which he does.
I presume that you're referring to Abraham and Isaac. Abraham was a righteous man who loved his son, perhaps a bit too much.
God told Abraham to sacrifice his son - this was to shape Abraham's character - so that Abraham would be clear on where the allegiance lies.
Where you get it wrong is that Abraham did NOT kill his son. He was obedient, even to the point of tying Isaac on the altar, and holding the knife over him - but just as he was ready to strike the fatal blow, God stopped Abraham, and showed him the ram (trapped in the bushes) to use as a sacrifice.
If you're going to bust on the Bible, for God's sake, get it right! (and I do mean for His sake)
The most violent act in the Bible is the one where God Himself steps down from heaven and lives as a man, and then is put to death by evil men - for the sins of each of us!!!!!
"God demonstrates his love for us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Anomaly
PS - God loves you and longs for relationship with you.
If you want to know more, please contact me at tom_cooper at bigfoot dot com
Could God stop you from committing suicide? Certainly. Would He? No.
He would not because this would mean that you were being compelled to obey. He gives people free will to choose whether to do what is right, or do what is wrong.
God tolerates evil in the world because He is merciful - He wants all people to follow Him.
If God were to wipe out evil, He would wipe us all out. It's His mercy that allows us to continue to be here.
Regards,
Tom Cooper