Ants do not have the sense of hearing so the hum would need to carry through material well for the ants to feel it. I don't think the vibrations from a clock would carry enough for ants to notice. Though they have amazing senses of smell, some people speculate that ants are attracted to the small amounts of ozone produced by electronics, others believe it is the insulating in the wires. It may be a combination of many factors that bring them there but any electrician can tell you stories of infestation. Just one of those things bugs are bugs.
No because then someone would just come up with a way that it would play itself into a buffer and write back to the rewritable bits as they became available. But the idea is that the media is not stable but physical degrades in a time frame a rewritable would not fit that security method.
Except the disc will not decode because the technology worked. The disc has degraded and the future cockroach will never be able to watch Mimic and realise the vital piece of evidence they needed in understanding early culture.
But you have to add in the collection % of petrol used for waste collection and this may depend on how often you rent movies. I used to rent one a night because I worked nights and daytime tele was not geared towards me. So in the 3 years I worked nights that would have been an average of 700 of these in the rubbish but the video store was between my work and home relatively.
It all does depend so the question is will they give you a choice?
Well the comment on rental movies using this just made me think. Doesn't this sound very wasteful. From a plastic production and disposale sense. It is bad enough we have millions of AOl cds that you have to find something to do with but now you will have dvd coasters with them. There are only so many coasters one household needs before this just becomes more filler in the tip (dump for the Americas)
But the family unit doesn't get protection from the actions of individuals.
By creating an entity called a corporation, you are creating an entity to exist within a scope of law for that entity. You seperate the individuals from legal responsibility of the actions of the company, you seperate the individual from debt liability from the company, because the individuals are protected this entity has to have different laws to control its rights and civic responsibilities. Some of those laws include making the individuals accountable, some include fining the institution for crimes committed by the entity, mainly because a corporation can not be put in prison so it must be fined instead. So because a corporation has protection of the individuals within the corporation you have to have different rules to make sure the corporation is not used as a tool for illegal activity or that the corporation does not use these rules and economic power to bypass the rights of individuals. The consumer is a powerful unit but the market determines what the consumer can choice between when the market is controlled the consumer loses power, because choices are removed. Anti monopoly law is to make sure the market has this choice so the market is a free market and the consumer has a choice that will check the power of a corporation.
It isn't solid law and the concepts are vague but it is better than unchecked corporate control. All you need to do is look in the history of industrial cities around early twentieth century factories to see how without protection of choice in the market place, how this system did affect the rights of people. A corporation in my opinion is a lesser entity than an individual, its rights should be below that of an individual.
I for one think that the idea here is as a species are we going to make it through the conditions we have to live in, with enough of society intact to carry forward the advances we have made or do we suffer a massive trama to the species and hve to wait another 100,000 years before we can look towards space travel or disease control, or any advance that is worthy to the species.
We are tied very closely to our ecosystem how far we can be removed from its working I for one would not like to test. But in this lifetime I believe it won't bother me much, I can keep my standard of living and probably do ok. Two three generations down the road who knows, but I would rather try to have some legacy other than problems to hand that generation.
Of course if I read into the parenthetical comment I would than have to say that he was referring to US interest and will spend some of today trying to remove my Timberlands from my mouth.
Dr Dobbs ran an article on this a point is though they won their court case, they lost their business and with court costs and business debt they didn't really win anything. What is the total legal bill here?
This list is long and it isn't hurting microsoft or the lawyers on both sides currently. So they can lose and still win.
On your second very true. It is a case of which evil will you support today?
If a family were a corporation the individuals in the family would have rights and the family as a unit would be a legal entity with rights.
So my son has rights as an individual, my wife has rights as an individual but any action they do when acting as part of the family is blanketed by the family entity.
I don't know if you are commenting directly to me or in general. It sounds like you are hooking on my last comment I will sell you my cd. I wasn't looking to market so I didn't list those sites I was just debating the subject. I tend not to want to advertise my music in forums like this. Here I like sharing ideas and would like the ideas shared without critism of my music. There are many places elsewhere that focus on that aspect of music and I take that there.
If you comment was in general sorry. I tend to reply to post to my comments just to make sure I hog up some bits on slashdot but also to debate and not proclaimate.
I am member of ASCAP and a songwriter this affects me but, I am tired of music going out or pressing not being available in any form. I have been trying to legally buy an album collection I lost when I moved from America to England. It was too expensive to transport a record collection and I gave all my vinyl to a friend. I didn't copy the records because I was out of cdrs at the time and figured Oh well I wanted to own the cd anyway. For the life of me I can't find The Climax Blues Band Gold Plated on cd anywhere. If the record companies would have a service where I can buy and burn a one off copy of this album and not be stuck with the one song from it on the greatest hits only, they might have new revenue because I would buy it. The technology is there that no album should be out of print and the customer could purchase an instant pressing, they could cut the financial overhead of mass printing, but no they just try to control the media. This isn't about my rights as a consumer or about my royalties as a song writer it is about controlling the music played on radio to control what the customers listen to so they can focus on what the spend on acts to maximise profits. This new media online radio, file sharing is not just killing profits it is hampering their control the meat grinding factory set up they have used for years.
This is like when the sheet music companies went nuts of vinyl. They fought hard to create the royalty and publishing system we have today. This worked for the song writers, the work for hire status of musicians these days have been making the artists fight for every penny.
Everything is right for the record companies now, they are taking the money and position but in 10 years they will have moved to the new model and all be repositioning themselves. The middle which is where we are at is going to suck for the consumer and the artist, towards the end we may get our own back on the record companies.
I use tape but I tape my own band practices and shows. But they worked this out during the whole tape boom. The forced audio tape manufactures to pay a royalty and this was incorporated into the cost of tapes. I also use cdrs but that is to make cd demos of my bands music. I have copied about 50 music cds and that was to back up my collection and take the copies with me when I went to Europe so if they got damaged in travel I had my originals. But then I moved over here and moved everything with me and wish I had those 50 cdrs back as I am running low. I should have bought a rewritable drive.
Yes there are so many assumptions in that letter.
They don't care. The ship is sinking. They will end up with a different business model but they are not happy with the revenue prospects. If you want one of my cds just let me know. I sell them dirt cheap you pay for the cdr and shipping.
I was moving the tracks from a multi track audio procject I was working on across network shares and the Windows time remaining calculatoin kept increasing as the status bar percentage was increasing. So as I got closer to completing my time approached infinity. The funny thing was it didn't take an extraordinary amount of time and it went smoothly except for that time remaining calculation itself.
On the subject matter of Apple, Windows, Linux et al. I still think the mHz is silly and you just have to use the machines. My PPC 4400/200 was fine running BeOS or OS 8 compared to my AMD K62-350 SCSI machine. My Roomates iMac I believe 400mHz with OS 9.2 next to his AMD 750 smoked it but then he ran Windows ME and when that kept crapping up on him switched to WIndows 2000 both were dogs compared to his Mac.
Doing tech support for years. Give me a job working on macs I have always liked the user base and ease of fixing problems on the system.
Now for myself I own an AMD K6 350 scsi drives to improve speed and running Linux. This is a reflection of my wallet and my tastes. Though this whole discussion has me trolling ebay for biege G3s and PPC4400/200's.
No the constitution never guaranteed rights to corporations. The bill of rights is for individuals.
"Supreme Courts have been shaped philosophically by their members, particularly by the chief justice. To preserve the new constitutional experiment, the Marshall court sought protection for men of property who would give the nation stability and permanence. Many legal ways were found to virtually sanctify property rights and ensure federal supremacy. Article I, section 10's proscription of state violation of the obligation of contracts was interpreted to include everything from private contracts to state- granted charters of incorporation to private companies. Interstate commerce, which Congress constitutionally had authority to regulate, was interpreted to include almost every kind of commercial activity. Congress' power over it was complete in itself and could be exercised to its utmost extent, acknowledging no limitations other than those prescribed in the constitution.
In two other areas Marshall set patterns: the supremacy of federal over state courts was established clearly and permanently, and the so-called "necessary and proper" clause (the last of the powers delegated to Congress under Article I, section 8) was interpreted broadly as a positive authorization for Congress to find means to accomplish appropriate national ends.
Jacksonian Democracy placed new emphasis on freer economic competition. As it also placed a new generation of judges on the bench-headed by Roger B. Taney-the law quickly reflected this changed focus. Emphasizing, in his first opinion, that "while the rights of private property are sacredly guarded, we must not forget that the community also have rights," Chief Justice Taney went on to lay a legal basis for freedom of competition, both through encouraging local banking and commerce and by guaranteeing the right of corporations to do interstate business."
from http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/ea/side/const.htm l
"60. Grosjean v. American Press Co., 297 U.S. 233, 244 (1936) (``a corporation is a `person' within the meaning of the equal protection and due process of law clauses''). In First Nat'l Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, 435 U.S. 765 (1978), faced with the validity of state restraints upon expression by corporations, the Court did not determine that corporations have First Amendment liberty rights--and other constitutional rights--but decided instead that expression was protected, irrespective of the speaker, because of the interests of the listeners. See id. at 778 n.14 (reserving question). But see id. at 809, 822 (Justices White and Rehnquist dissenting) (corporations as creatures of the state have the rights state gives them)."
from http://www.eco.freedom.org/ac92/ac92pg1578.shtml The whole article is good because it shows court cases on the definition of corporations within the courts over time and the conflict of these decisions.
This has an overview of the 14th ammendment and its various uses which includes corporations rights and their validity or definition compared to citizens rights
http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate/consti tu tion/amdt14.html
Read the constitution it is a good document but the corporation as a concept was left for the states to decide the federal courts have argued on the rights of this created citizen called corporation since.
Good point this was just watching them process what was given and we compared total stats from when we went to work and came back which was approx 9 hours.
And it was one of those neat. Things, personally Macs tend to my eye to be smoother than Windows PCs but I am using Gnome/Enlightenment/Gnu/Linux on an AMD so where did my wallet and tastes lead me anyway.
I will agree with the software availablity issue and expense of software in the Apple world though my audio editting software comparissions in studios with pcs and macs say it is worth the money for performance in that field, digital professional audio. In the studio I sit in front of macs at home I have my machine tweaked out to work though editting some effects takes ages on a PC. That is just the maths involved and how the processor handles them. But my money on the subject was in the AMD K6 days, I don't need faster cpu's the money for me is better spent in sound cards.
But then again the original beige G3 has the performance and a good price these days. We both are talking about owning and getting use from older machines. So value $ of our machines versus older Macs against performance also.
Ok again running a 400mhz imac with Seti and a 800mhz AMD with Seti the iMac complete data blocks faster than the AMD machine 3 to 1. So what do people mean by faster. Clock cycles. Well if you do less in that clock cycle how can you say that is faster.
If you can get a test between the two platforms that can give you an accurate figure we can get away from opinions but it is an opinion thing at this point. The above example was the only thing I needed to see to convince me, but then I have never been a mhz junkie. I have an Amd 350 with scsi drives and it does what I need it to do well.
But I don't trash macs on a speed rating that does translate into anything meaningful in performance.
But they were willing to take a chance on BeOS but they were told if they dual booted BeOS they couldn't have MS. And if they sold BeOS only machines they could lose MS. So they were telling companies to get OEM versions of software to preinstall you couldn't offer a dual boot solution and you couldn't offer another operating system on seperate machines and keep selling MS.
Which takes out the mechanism that Free Open Markets needs to prevent a monopoly, consumer choice. A computer hardware vendor offers preinstalled operating systems for its customers and for the os companies as a service. But this does not make them a selling arm of the operating system company. If microsoft set up dealerships like car manufacturers I could see this policy but the OEM relationship was not designed or implemented like this and this is to me the definition of monopolistic practice. Using your market share to force suppliers from supplying alternatives to your products.
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It is a problem that they are researching to find out what attracts ants to electricity.
The Institute
Ars News Network
A 5 year old wired article very similiar to this story
Ants do not have the sense of hearing so the hum would need to carry through material well for the ants to feel it. I don't think the vibrations from a clock would carry enough for ants to notice. Though they have amazing senses of smell, some people speculate that ants are attracted to the small amounts of ozone produced by electronics, others believe it is the insulating in the wires. It may be a combination of many factors that bring them there but any electrician can tell you stories of infestation. Just one of those things bugs are bugs.
No because then someone would just come up with a way that it would play itself into a buffer and write back to the rewritable bits as they became available. But the idea is that the media is not stable but physical degrades in a time frame a rewritable would not fit that security method.
Except the disc will not decode because the technology worked. The disc has degraded and the future cockroach will never be able to watch Mimic and realise the vital piece of evidence they needed in understanding early culture.
Or put them in your tea :)
Amazon has Godel in the uk at this link
here it is
IF you want the original paper for it sake if you want it free I don't know if it is out there.
But you have to add in the collection % of petrol used for waste collection and this may depend on how often you rent movies. I used to rent one a night because I worked nights and daytime tele was not geared towards me. So in the 3 years I worked nights that would have been an average of 700 of these in the rubbish but the video store was between my work and home relatively.
It all does depend so the question is will they give you a choice?
Well the comment on rental movies using this just made me think. Doesn't this sound very wasteful. From a plastic production and disposale sense. It is bad enough we have millions of AOl cds that you have to find something to do with but now you will have dvd coasters with them. There are only so many coasters one household needs before this just becomes more filler in the tip (dump for the Americas)
But the family unit doesn't get protection from the actions of individuals.
By creating an entity called a corporation, you are creating an entity to exist within a scope of law for that entity. You seperate the individuals from legal responsibility of the actions of the company, you seperate the individual from debt liability from the company, because the individuals are protected this entity has to have different laws to control its rights and civic responsibilities. Some of those laws include making the individuals accountable, some include fining the institution for crimes committed by the entity, mainly because a corporation can not be put in prison so it must be fined instead. So because a corporation has protection of the individuals within the corporation you have to have different rules to make sure the corporation is not used as a tool for illegal activity or that the corporation does not use these rules and economic power to bypass the rights of individuals. The consumer is a powerful unit but the market determines what the consumer can choice between when the market is controlled the consumer loses power, because choices are removed. Anti monopoly law is to make sure the market has this choice so the market is a free market and the consumer has a choice that will check the power of a corporation.
It isn't solid law and the concepts are vague but it is better than unchecked corporate control.
All you need to do is look in the history of industrial cities around early twentieth century factories to see how without protection of choice in the market place, how this system did affect the rights of people. A corporation in my opinion is a lesser entity than an individual, its rights should be below that of an individual.
The thing is x species include human species.
I for one think that the idea here is as a species are we going to make it through the conditions we have to live in, with enough of society intact to carry forward the advances we have made or do we suffer a massive trama to the species and hve to wait another 100,000 years before we can look towards space travel or disease control, or any advance that is worthy to the species.
We are tied very closely to our ecosystem how far we can be removed from its working I for one would not like to test. But in this lifetime I believe it won't bother me much, I can keep my standard of living and probably do ok. Two three generations down the road who knows, but I would rather try to have some legacy other than problems to hand that generation.
Of course if I read into the parenthetical comment I would than have to say that he was referring to US interest and will spend some of today trying to remove my Timberlands from my mouth.
I think the Americas refers to the countries of North and South America. Not the United States of America.
Oops I be one of both. Sorry your site was just better than the site in the article though.
You can also check out the Obsolete Computer Museum
They can lose and win at the same time. Some history
What is in a name?
Dr Dobbs ran an article on this a point is though they won their court case, they lost their business and with court costs and business debt they didn't really win anything.
What is the total legal bill here?
This list is long and it isn't hurting microsoft or the lawyers on both sides currently. So they can lose and still win.
On your second very true. It is a case of which evil will you support today?
Your metaphor is wrong with the way law works.
If a family were a corporation the individuals in the family would have rights and the family as a unit would be a legal entity with rights.
So my son has rights as an individual, my wife has rights as an individual but any action they do when acting as part of the family is blanketed by the family entity.
Some of my music
Some more of my music
My Web Space, Though this I removed all the pages on to place up the new site and have to reupload past the cover image.
I don't know if you are commenting directly to me or in general. It sounds like you are hooking on my last comment I will sell you my cd. I wasn't looking to market so I didn't list those sites I was just debating the subject. I tend not to want to advertise my music in forums like this. Here I like sharing ideas and would like the ideas shared without critism of my music. There are many places elsewhere that focus on that aspect of music and I take that there.
If you comment was in general sorry. I tend to reply to post to my comments just to make sure I hog up some bits on slashdot but also to debate and not proclaimate.
I am member of ASCAP and a songwriter this affects me but, I am tired of music going out or pressing not being available in any form. I have been trying to legally buy an album collection I lost when I moved from America to England. It was too expensive to transport a record collection and I gave all my vinyl to a friend. I didn't copy the records because I was out of cdrs at the time and figured Oh well I wanted to own the cd anyway. For the life of me I can't find The Climax Blues Band Gold Plated on cd anywhere. If the record companies would have a service where I can buy and burn a one off copy of this album and not be stuck with the one song from it on the greatest hits only, they might have new revenue because I would buy it. The technology is there that no album should be out of print and the customer could purchase an instant pressing, they could cut the financial overhead of mass printing, but no they just try to control the media. This isn't about my rights as a consumer or about my royalties as a song writer it is about controlling the music played on radio to control what the customers listen to so they can focus on what the spend on acts to maximise profits. This new media online radio, file sharing is not just killing profits it is hampering their control the meat grinding factory set up they have used for years.
This is like when the sheet music companies went nuts of vinyl. They fought hard to create the royalty and publishing system we have today. This worked for the song writers, the work for hire status of musicians these days have been making the artists fight for every penny.
Everything is right for the record companies now, they are taking the money and position but in 10 years they will have moved to the new model and all be repositioning themselves. The middle which is where we are at is going to suck for the consumer and the artist, towards the end we may get our own back on the record companies.
I use tape but I tape my own band practices and shows. But they worked this out during the whole tape boom. The forced audio tape manufactures to pay a royalty and this was incorporated into the cost of tapes. I also use cdrs but that is to make cd demos of my bands music. I have copied about 50 music cds and that was to back up my collection and take the copies with me when I went to Europe so if they got damaged in travel I had my originals. But then I moved over here and moved everything with me and wish I had those 50 cdrs back as I am running low. I should have bought a rewritable drive.
Yes there are so many assumptions in that letter.
They don't care. The ship is sinking. They will end up with a different business model but they are not happy with the revenue prospects. If you want one of my cds just let me know. I sell them dirt cheap you pay for the cdr and shipping.
I was moving the tracks from a multi track audio procject I was working on across network shares and the Windows time remaining calculatoin kept increasing as the status bar percentage was increasing. So as I got closer to completing my time approached infinity. The funny thing was it didn't take an extraordinary amount of time and it went smoothly except for that time remaining calculation itself.
On the subject matter of Apple, Windows, Linux et al. I still think the mHz is silly and you just have to use the machines. My PPC 4400/200 was fine running BeOS or OS 8 compared to my AMD K62-350 SCSI machine. My Roomates iMac I believe 400mHz with OS 9.2 next to his AMD 750 smoked it but then he ran Windows ME and when that kept crapping up on him switched to WIndows 2000 both were dogs compared to his Mac.
Doing tech support for years. Give me a job working on macs I have always liked the user base and ease of fixing problems on the system.
Now for myself I own an AMD K6 350 scsi drives to improve speed and running Linux. This is a reflection of my wallet and my tastes. Though this whole discussion has me trolling ebay for biege G3s and PPC4400/200's.
No the constitution never guaranteed rights to corporations. The bill of rights is for individuals.
m l
i tu tion/amdt14.html
"Supreme Courts have been shaped philosophically by their members, particularly by the chief justice. To preserve the new constitutional experiment, the Marshall court sought protection for men of property who would give the nation stability and permanence. Many legal ways were found to virtually sanctify property rights and ensure federal supremacy. Article I, section 10's proscription of state violation of the obligation of contracts was interpreted to include everything from private contracts to state- granted charters of incorporation to private companies. Interstate commerce, which Congress constitutionally had authority to regulate, was interpreted to include almost every kind of commercial activity. Congress' power over it was complete in itself and could be exercised to its utmost extent, acknowledging no limitations other than those prescribed in the constitution.
In two other areas Marshall set patterns: the supremacy of federal over state courts was established clearly and permanently, and the so-called "necessary and proper" clause (the last of the powers delegated to Congress under Article I, section 8) was interpreted broadly as a positive authorization for Congress to find means to accomplish appropriate national ends.
Jacksonian Democracy placed new emphasis on freer economic competition. As it also placed a new generation of judges on the bench-headed by Roger B. Taney-the law quickly reflected this changed focus. Emphasizing, in his first opinion, that "while the rights of private property are sacredly guarded, we must not forget that the community also have rights," Chief Justice Taney went on to lay a legal basis for freedom of competition, both through encouraging local banking and commerce and by guaranteeing the right of corporations to do interstate business."
from http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/ea/side/const.ht
"60. Grosjean v. American Press Co., 297 U.S. 233, 244 (1936)
(``a corporation is a `person' within the meaning of the equal
protection and due process of law clauses''). In First Nat'l Bank of
Boston v. Bellotti, 435 U.S. 765 (1978), faced with the validity of
state restraints upon expression by corporations, the Court did not
determine that corporations have First Amendment liberty rights--and
other constitutional rights--but decided instead that expression was
protected, irrespective of the speaker, because of the interests of the
listeners. See id. at 778 n.14 (reserving question). But see id. at 809,
822 (Justices White and Rehnquist dissenting) (corporations as creatures
of the state have the rights state gives them)."
from http://www.eco.freedom.org/ac92/ac92pg1578.shtml
The whole article is good because it shows court cases on the definition of corporations within the courts over time and the conflict of these decisions.
This has an overview of the 14th ammendment and its various uses which includes corporations rights and their validity or definition compared to citizens rights
http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate/const
Read the constitution it is a good document but the corporation as a concept was left for the states to decide the federal courts have argued on the rights of this created citizen called corporation since.
Good point this was just watching them process what was given and we compared total stats from when we went to work and came back which was approx 9 hours.
And it was one of those neat. Things, personally Macs tend to my eye to be smoother than Windows PCs but I am using Gnome/Enlightenment/Gnu/Linux on an AMD so where did my wallet and tastes lead me anyway.
I will agree with the software availablity issue and expense of software in the Apple world though my audio editting software comparissions in studios with pcs and macs say it is worth the money for performance in that field, digital professional audio. In the studio I sit in front of macs at home I have my machine tweaked out to work though editting some effects takes ages on a PC. That is just the maths involved and how the processor handles them. But my money on the subject was in the AMD K6 days, I don't need faster cpu's the money for me is better spent in sound cards.
But then again the original beige G3 has the performance and a good price these days. We both are talking about owning and getting use from older machines. So value $ of our machines versus older Macs against performance also.
Ok again running a 400mhz imac with Seti
and a 800mhz AMD with Seti the iMac complete data blocks faster than the AMD machine 3 to 1. So what do people mean by faster. Clock cycles. Well if you do less in that clock cycle how can you say that is faster.
If you can get a test between the two platforms that can give you an accurate figure we can get away from opinions but it is an opinion thing at this point. The above example was the only thing I needed to see to convince me, but then I have never been a mhz junkie. I have an Amd 350 with scsi drives and it does what I need it to do well.
But I don't trash macs on a speed rating that does translate into anything meaningful in performance.
But they were willing to take a chance on BeOS but they were told if they dual booted BeOS they couldn't have MS. And if they sold BeOS only machines they could lose MS. So they were telling companies to get OEM versions of software to preinstall you couldn't offer a dual boot solution and you couldn't offer another operating system on seperate machines and keep selling MS.
Which takes out the mechanism that Free Open Markets needs to prevent a monopoly, consumer choice. A computer hardware vendor offers preinstalled operating systems for its customers and for the os companies as a service. But this does not make them a selling arm of the operating system company. If microsoft set up dealerships like car manufacturers I could see this policy but the OEM relationship was not designed or implemented like this and this is to me the definition of monopolistic practice. Using your market share to force suppliers from supplying alternatives to your products.