5. RHETT CREIGHTON " The future is now, and that future is: Bowling Balls. Do you realize that if GNOME starts making bowling balls, we stand to net profit $11,000?! That's right, eleven big ones. Net profit, mind you. " No affiliation. Full statement at
Name: Rhett Creighton
Affiliation: none
I haven't done doodly squat for GNOME. There is absolutely no reason to vote for me. I ran last year and got the least number of votes (3, including my own).
I believe that free software is overrated. If elected, I will try to adopt a for-profit software model to the GNOME foundation. Actually, GNOME will stop making software altogether. Instead, it will make bowling balls.
Anyone who votes for me probably should have all of their votes thrown out.
Hi ho!
Rhett
Well, it's good to have someone with a sense of humor on the board. Or is it?
Re:101 reasons not to patch and unpatch repeatedly
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On the contrary they are talking about doing precisely this. It would not be possible under the current build process but kbuild for 2.5 is redesigned in such a way that it supposedly does this anyway.
The latest Kernel Traffic suggests that Alan is considering using the AA VM anyway. Looks like Rik's stuff is getting dumped entirely. That is unless they can figure out how to parameterize VM's and make it a compile time option as they've been talking about.
Who's chrisd? Is that short or Christine? Finally, a female editor. But I still think this is discriminatory because a Kernel release is trivial. Let's see what Christie can really do! Let her post something real goddamnit!
Well, I can't use the control modifier because I use Exceed on NT a lot so NT eat's that key combo. I tried to do the grid thing but I wasn't quite sure how to map the keys because of the linear representation of desktops in WindowMaker. I guess if you advances 3 workspaces the effect would be the same as moving down but this is only a conceptual representation in WindowMaker. I don't use a pager.
Since XFree86 supports multiple workspaces I find the fixation on overlapping windows quite silly at this point. Rather than flipping between windows, why not flip between workspaces and maximize or tile two windows per workspace. I mapped F4 to next-workspace and F3 previous-workspace and tile two xterms per workspace. In this way I can simultaniously edit 3-4 source files and build/run windows open all at once. I usually have one maxed xterm for watching debuggin output or exploring huge directories and another workspace for just Netscape. To switch between them is a matter of hitting F4 to shift to the right and F3 to shift back (at least this is trivial in WindowMaker; it has runtime game-style key mapping). Try it, you'll utilize much more surface area and as a result be more productive.
the ONLY important remedy in the M$-DOJ case is to force open protocols and open data exchange
YES! I totally agree. I have been thinking the same thing. We need the idl definitions for all the MS-RPC calls. Then we could access Exchange, NT Domain stuff, etc.
I don't know for sure and I hope I'm wrong but this is likely a hoax. Remember the light emmitting diode CPU thing? This is one of those concept articles of the ideal operating system. Sounds great and it's good for inspiration but I doubt such a Utopian OS exists. I wish it did but we would have heard about it already. I just hope MIT doesn't get pissed off at these guys.
Well, I guess if you're jumping around distros and versions like that than I understand. I have been running 6.2 for what seems like ages. Ditto with 5.2.
I just did. If you want these guys to stick around I'd suggest you do the same. Even if you just going to download it anyway. How much time do you spend logged into your RH system? How would you feel if you were forced to use Windows? These guys have contributed a lot to Linux. Alan Cox, David S. Miller, many gcc developers, and countless others are leaders in the Open Source community and deserve to get paid. What would you spend sporting dinner at a resturant? Fifty bucks?
Cripes. A lotta talk when all you need to figure out who the culprit is is download Ethereal and run it with a filter of 'port 25'.
Recursive Composition and Paramterization
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Autonomic Computing
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It tells your heart how fast to beat, checks your blood sugar and oxygen levels, and controls your pupils so the right amount of light reaches your...
There's an OO principle called dimeter which advocates as few dependancies as possible between objects. This sounds like a lot of hooks all over the place which is not a model of simplicity. It would be better for "it" to step out of the way and let each object adjust itself based on its surroundings just as in natural systems. Nature has a tremendous advantage over computers. It is far more efficient because everything is happening literally in parallel. Computers can really only do a very limited number of things at a time although sometimes the user perceives concurrencey due to very rapid time-slicing.
As a result, programmers are forced to make tremendous compermises given the comparatively limited medium with which they have to work. It will take well established techniques and objective analysis to determine the be way to utilize bits on silica.
Over the years I have recognised one principle that transcends this issue -- the issue of dealing with complexity. Oversimply it is Recursive Composition. This "pattern" or OO construct as it is sometimes referred to does not have a Class or particular set of relationships between objects. It's completely arbitrary. The idea, is to recursively delegate the responsibilty of another part of the system to yet another module. At the leaves of this tree you have the primative operations and at the root you have one simple instruction for triggering a potentially very complex cascade of instructions. Thus you have reduced the complexity of the overall system. The key difference between this and just another group of functions calling one another (and thus target to reduceing complexity of programs and in real-life systems) is parameterization.
As a simple example, imagine trying to encode or decode a database file. The database file has a header, a record list, and data chunks. Like this one on PalmOS PDB files. If one were to apply the principle of Recursive Composition the API for this PDB codec would be, at the top level, PDB_decode(char *src). At the next level down you have operations like Hdr_decode(char *src) and Record_decode(char *src). At the leaves you have dec_uint32be(char *src) to decode an unsigned 32 bit integer in Big Endian byte order.
If you can parameterize cleaning exactly what is required to perfrom a task and delegate it to another module you have broken the problem into at least two smaller problems which reduces the order of complexity. Simple!;-P
I wonder if Pair Networks runs AMD on VIA boards with that quirky chipset problem. Someone pointed out the last time this IBM Deathstar issue came up that a lot of the people affected have VIA boards. I have one of these drives with a VIA board and my machine when screech screech screech.... clickety, clickety, clickety too 8^(
Anyone running AMD on VIA with the GXP?
Mozilla Over X Session Not Good
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I kept downloading and trying Mozilla. I didn't know what people were talking about. The performance was awefull. Then I tried on Windows and found it works pretty well. I actually use it as my regular browser on NT. But X Windows on Linux performance still stinks. Netscape 4 works fine over X. Is there something fundamentally different about the UI that causes Mozilla not to paint over a remote X session. Running programs over X remotely is a huge plus in Unix development environments. A lot of our people work over Exceed on NT.
does anyone know when this will be included in redhat or mandrake? i dont know how to make a kernel myself. the howto was of no use either
Never. They will likely use there own tweeked versions. In particular Red Hat will use an Alan Cox variant. When they release 7.2 for example it will have one of the more stable versions tweeked and hamstrung in various ways to their taste. The kernels that you would get from Kernel.org are kinda raw. You have to know your config and make adjustments on the fly. Stick with the post-proccessed distro kernels.
The problem with Rik's VM was Rik. He has been an arrogant piss ant for as long as I've been watching the list. He obviously ain't no dummy and I have no problem with working with people like that but I think Linus was itchn' to get that monkey off his back. They were applying all sorts of desperate patches ("tuning") and falling all over each other in the process. They just don't know why his VM goes off into la la land under high loads. What do you do about that? Stable or not Andrea totally rewrote the VM in like 5 weeks. Sometimes rewriting something from scratch like that is just the Right Thing to do. Linus saw that on the surface it worked better than Rik's and took it as a blessing. Sure 2.4.10 was bleeding before it left the gate and immediately needed triage (anyone running 2.4.10 should get this release patch folks) but so far it's not been a disaster like some people have been warning about. In fact most people claim it's quite a bit better than Rik's. If you've been using 2.4 without luck, try this one folks.
comp.lang.c will set you straight within a couple of weeks
Bravo. This is true. Once I posted a very simple stack.c as an example in the quest for a "perfect" code example. They went back and fourth picking it apart. I would re-write it and post again. Regardless of how trivial the code is the end result was a great example of c code that I can reference as such. Stongly recommend a simlar exercise.
Okay, this is so far the second place I've seen this mentioned. Does anyone have any more info on Microsoft dropping SMB? Info on what they'll allegedly replace it with? I haven't been able to dig up any real dirt on this, and I haven't gotten more than hearsay, this snippet here and a mention in passing by an Apple sales guy. Any info would be helpful.
I don't think the're going to get that monkey off their back for a while. There's a lot of stuff funneled through CIFS (aka SMB). You've got NamedPipes, RAP calls, transactions, DCE/RPC,.. etc. It would be quite a headache to decouple all of that stuff. I have not heard *anything* about ditching it entirely. It would immediatedly render the default install of any of their OSs useless with the new product. Besides, there is a fairly substantial CIFS community at the moment. You have EMC, Netapp, Unisys, and others. Not gonna happen soon.
Re:smb-less windows file sharing is already a real
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ms introduced port 445, 'microsoft-ds', with win2k. one can completely disable netbios on a system and still transfer files, but network neighborhood won't work anymore - it's going to be a short amount of time before there's something to replace that.
Not quite. The 445 stuff is actually SMB. It's just not over NetBIOS. That little 4 byte header is left blank (or maybe it encodes a length, I don't remember exactly). And Network Neighborhood (aka Browsing) is replaced with similar functionality using Active Directory I beleive. Later versions of Samba support the CIFS on port 445 I beleive.
I will admit to wanting to take a clue-bat to some of the people arguing against Rik's VM work who simply do not understand...
Actually I think the main problem with Rik's VM is Rik. He's always got some arrogant comment or critisizing Linus publically about something. The fact is, his code was stuck in a loop (literally) and no one knew how to fix the damn thing. People kept submitting all sorts of little patches but they were just tipping all over each other (Alan claims to have been much more conservative about what he allowed into his Kernal which is performing well). I think when Linus saw that Andrea's total rewrite showed good performance he jumped at the opportunity if for no other reason to just get Rik off his back. And so far the results have been pretty good. Linus still does not approve of the classzone design, the code is supposedly really messy, and there are little annoying incongruencies. Alltogether this meaning the stuggle is not over on this front:(
9. What is your opinion on.NET and do you think that it may be possible that.NET change the OS "map" as we know it?
Matt Dillon: I believe.NET is Vapor. It's a marketing term dreamed up by Microsoft that will magically morph into whatever Microsoft eventually winds up delivering. MS announces grandiose ideas with cute catch phrases all the time, and as with any good vapor there is always some basis in truth (if only a little pinprick). The reality is a little different though... remember, these are the people that hyped windows-ME up the wazoo and all we got out of it was a speech-synthesized windows installation wizard! These are the people that called NT the unix-killer and told people it was as reliable as UNIX..NOT is probably a more descriptive term for.NET. My guess is that it will turn into Microsoft-proprietary rent-a-service glue, and that it will introduce an order of magnitude more security issues then IIS.
Yes, I just blatantly copied this over. Sorry. But it's a choice comment. I bet he's right too.
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What the fsck are you talking about? If it works it works. This is great. I'm going to go out and buy an ATI card!
Too much of a hassle. Just use GIF instead.
...by default Linux does not take full advantage of the hardware.
It should if the kernel was built with CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO. Try:
hdparm -Tt
If buffered disk reads is more than about 4 MB/sec UDMA is enabled so you shouldn't mess with anything.
Finally, enabling [u]dma on older drives and chipsets can result in FS corruption. That's why it's not enabled by default.
5. RHETT CREIGHTON " The future is now, and that future is: Bowling Balls. Do you realize that if GNOME starts making bowling balls, we stand to net profit $11,000?! That's right, eleven big ones. Net profit, mind you. " No affiliation. Full statement at
Name: Rhett Creighton
Affiliation: none
I haven't done doodly squat for GNOME. There is absolutely no reason to vote for me. I ran last year and got the least number of votes (3, including my own).
I believe that free software is overrated. If elected, I will try to adopt a for-profit software model to the GNOME foundation. Actually, GNOME will stop making software altogether. Instead, it will make bowling balls.
Anyone who votes for me probably should have all of their votes thrown out.
Hi ho!
Rhett
Well, it's good to have someone with a sense of humor on the board. Or is it?
On the contrary they are talking about doing precisely this. It would not be possible under the current build process but kbuild for 2.5 is redesigned in such a way that it supposedly does this anyway.
The latest Kernel Traffic suggests that Alan is considering using the AA VM anyway. Looks like Rik's stuff is getting dumped entirely. That is unless they can figure out how to parameterize VM's and make it a compile time option as they've been talking about.
Who's chrisd? Is that short or Christine? Finally, a female editor. But I still think this is discriminatory because a Kernel release is trivial. Let's see what Christie can really do! Let her post something real goddamnit!
Well, I can't use the control modifier because I use Exceed on NT a lot so NT eat's that key combo. I tried to do the grid thing but I wasn't quite sure how to map the keys because of the linear representation of desktops in WindowMaker. I guess if you advances 3 workspaces the effect would be the same as moving down but this is only a conceptual representation in WindowMaker. I don't use a pager.
Since XFree86 supports multiple workspaces I find the fixation on overlapping windows quite silly at this point. Rather than flipping between windows, why not flip between workspaces and maximize or tile two windows per workspace. I mapped F4 to next-workspace and F3 previous-workspace and tile two xterms per workspace. In this way I can simultaniously edit 3-4 source files and build/run windows open all at once. I usually have one maxed xterm for watching debuggin output or exploring huge directories and another workspace for just Netscape. To switch between them is a matter of hitting F4 to shift to the right and F3 to shift back (at least this is trivial in WindowMaker; it has runtime game-style key mapping). Try it, you'll utilize much more surface area and as a result be more productive.
the ONLY important remedy in the M$-DOJ case is to force open protocols and open data exchange
YES! I totally agree. I have been thinking the same thing. We need the idl definitions for all the MS-RPC calls. Then we could access Exchange, NT Domain stuff, etc.
I don't know for sure and I hope I'm wrong but this is likely a hoax. Remember the light emmitting diode CPU thing? This is one of those concept articles of the ideal operating system. Sounds great and it's good for inspiration but I doubt such a Utopian OS exists. I wish it did but we would have heard about it already. I just hope MIT doesn't get pissed off at these guys.
On 6.2 this is in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf I beleive.
Well, I guess if you're jumping around distros and versions like that than I understand. I have been running 6.2 for what seems like ages. Ditto with 5.2.
I just did. If you want these guys to stick around I'd suggest you do the same. Even if you just going to download it anyway. How much time do you spend logged into your RH system? How would you feel if you were forced to use Windows? These guys have contributed a lot to Linux. Alan Cox, David S. Miller, many gcc developers, and countless others are leaders in the Open Source community and deserve to get paid. What would you spend sporting dinner at a resturant? Fifty bucks?
Support RH and buy it now.
I just did.
Mike
Cripes. A lotta talk when all you need to figure out who the culprit is is download Ethereal and run it with a filter of 'port 25'.
It tells your heart how fast to beat, checks your blood sugar and oxygen levels, and controls your pupils so the right amount of light reaches your
There's an OO principle called dimeter which advocates as few dependancies as possible between objects. This sounds like a lot of hooks all over the place which is not a model of simplicity. It would be better for "it" to step out of the way and let each object adjust itself based on its surroundings just as in natural systems. Nature has a tremendous advantage over computers. It is far more efficient because everything is happening literally in parallel. Computers can really only do a very limited number of things at a time although sometimes the user perceives concurrencey due to very rapid time-slicing.
As a result, programmers are forced to make tremendous compermises given the comparatively limited medium with which they have to work. It will take well established techniques and objective analysis to determine the be way to utilize bits on silica.
Over the years I have recognised one principle that transcends this issue -- the issue of dealing with complexity. Oversimply it is Recursive Composition. This "pattern" or OO construct as it is sometimes referred to does not have a Class or particular set of relationships between objects. It's completely arbitrary. The idea, is to recursively delegate the responsibilty of another part of the system to yet another module. At the leaves of this tree you have the primative operations and at the root you have one simple instruction for triggering a potentially very complex cascade of instructions. Thus you have reduced the complexity of the overall system. The key difference between this and just another group of functions calling one another (and thus target to reduceing complexity of programs and in real-life systems) is parameterization.
As a simple example, imagine trying to encode or decode a database file. The database file has a header, a record list, and data chunks. Like this one on PalmOS PDB files. If one were to apply the principle of Recursive Composition the API for this PDB codec would be, at the top level, PDB_decode(char *src). At the next level down you have operations like Hdr_decode(char *src) and Record_decode(char *src). At the leaves you have dec_uint32be(char *src) to decode an unsigned 32 bit integer in Big Endian byte order.
If you can parameterize cleaning exactly what is required to perfrom a task and delegate it to another module you have broken the problem into at least two smaller problems which reduces the order of complexity. Simple!
I wonder if Pair Networks runs AMD on VIA boards with that quirky chipset problem. Someone pointed out the last time this IBM Deathstar issue came up that a lot of the people affected have VIA boards. I have one of these drives with a VIA board and my machine when screech screech screech .... clickety, clickety, clickety too 8^(
Anyone running AMD on VIA with the GXP?
I kept downloading and trying Mozilla. I didn't know what people were talking about. The performance was awefull. Then I tried on Windows and found it works pretty well. I actually use it as my regular browser on NT. But X Windows on Linux performance still stinks. Netscape 4 works fine over X. Is there something fundamentally different about the UI that causes Mozilla not to paint over a remote X session. Running programs over X remotely is a huge plus in Unix development environments. A lot of our people work over Exceed on NT.
does anyone know when this will be included in redhat or mandrake? i dont know how to make a kernel myself. the howto was of no use either
Never. They will likely use there own tweeked versions. In particular Red Hat will use an Alan Cox variant. When they release 7.2 for example it will have one of the more stable versions tweeked and hamstrung in various ways to their taste. The kernels that you would get from Kernel.org are kinda raw. You have to know your config and make adjustments on the fly. Stick with the post-proccessed distro kernels.
The problem with Rik's VM was Rik. He has been an arrogant piss ant for as long as I've been watching the list. He obviously ain't no dummy and I have no problem with working with people like that but I think Linus was itchn' to get that monkey off his back. They were applying all sorts of desperate patches ("tuning") and falling all over each other in the process. They just don't know why his VM goes off into la la land under high loads. What do you do about that? Stable or not Andrea totally rewrote the VM in like 5 weeks. Sometimes rewriting something from scratch like that is just the Right Thing to do. Linus saw that on the surface it worked better than Rik's and took it as a blessing. Sure 2.4.10 was bleeding before it left the gate and immediately needed triage (anyone running 2.4.10 should get this release patch folks) but so far it's not been a disaster like some people have been warning about. In fact most people claim it's quite a bit better than Rik's. If you've been using 2.4 without luck, try this one folks.
comp.lang.c will set you straight within a couple of weeks
Bravo. This is true. Once I posted a very simple stack.c as an example in the quest for a "perfect" code example. They went back and fourth picking it apart. I would re-write it and post again. Regardless of how trivial the code is the end result was a great example of c code that I can reference as such. Stongly recommend a simlar exercise.
BTW that code is here.
Okay, this is so far the second place I've seen this mentioned. Does anyone have any more info on Microsoft dropping SMB? Info on what they'll allegedly replace it with? I haven't been able to dig up any real dirt on this, and I haven't gotten more than hearsay, this snippet here and a mention in passing by an Apple sales guy. Any info would be helpful.
.. etc. It would be quite a headache to decouple all of that stuff. I have not heard *anything* about ditching it entirely. It would immediatedly render the default install of any of their OSs useless with the new product. Besides, there is a fairly substantial CIFS community at the moment. You have EMC, Netapp, Unisys, and others. Not gonna happen soon.
I don't think the're going to get that monkey off their back for a while. There's a lot of stuff funneled through CIFS (aka SMB). You've got NamedPipes, RAP calls, transactions, DCE/RPC,
ms introduced port 445, 'microsoft-ds', with win2k. one can completely disable netbios on a system and still transfer files, but network neighborhood won't work anymore - it's going to be a short amount of time before there's something to replace that.
Not quite. The 445 stuff is actually SMB. It's just not over NetBIOS. That little 4 byte header is left blank (or maybe it encodes a length, I don't remember exactly). And Network Neighborhood (aka Browsing) is replaced with similar functionality using Active Directory I beleive. Later versions of Samba support the CIFS on port 445 I beleive.
I will admit to wanting to take a clue-bat to some of the people arguing against Rik's VM work who simply do not understand
Actually I think the main problem with Rik's VM is Rik. He's always got some arrogant comment or critisizing Linus publically about something. The fact is, his code was stuck in a loop (literally) and no one knew how to fix the damn thing. People kept submitting all sorts of little patches but they were just tipping all over each other (Alan claims to have been much more conservative about what he allowed into his Kernal which is performing well). I think when Linus saw that Andrea's total rewrite showed good performance he jumped at the opportunity if for no other reason to just get Rik off his back. And so far the results have been pretty good. Linus still does not approve of the classzone design, the code is supposedly really messy, and there are little annoying incongruencies. Alltogether this meaning the stuggle is not over on this front
9. What is your opinion on .NET and do you think that it may be possible that .NET change the OS "map" as we know it?
.NET is Vapor. It's a marketing term dreamed up by Microsoft that will magically morph into whatever Microsoft eventually winds up delivering. MS announces grandiose ideas with cute catch phrases all the time, and as with any good vapor there is always some basis in truth (if only a little pinprick). The reality is a little different though... remember, these are the people that hyped windows-ME up the wazoo and all we got out of it was a speech-synthesized windows installation wizard! These are the people that called NT the unix-killer and told people it was as reliable as UNIX. .NOT is probably a more descriptive term for .NET. My guess is that it will turn into Microsoft-proprietary rent-a-service glue, and that it will introduce an order of magnitude more security issues then IIS.
Matt Dillon: I believe
Yes, I just blatantly copied this over. Sorry. But it's a choice comment. I bet he's right too.