Sure... Unless laws are passed that outlaw the sale or import of any devices that the manufacturer or service provider cannot unlock upon request with a warrant.
Fair point....but that is like taking something like cancer, and instead of focusing on trying to prevent it, complaining that humans are vulnerable to it in the first place. Nobody can do anything about the devices that are already in existence, and playing the blame game over it accomplishes nothing.
If they could, then they wouldn't be asking Apple to do it. Also, if a judge says Apple doesn't have to do this, what incentive would Apple have to help someone compromise its product in a manner that Apple themselves cannot be compelled to do in the first place?
It has nothing to do with placing trapdoors on millions of phones around the world...
Yes, actually it does. And here's why:
If Apple goes ahead and does this, what happens to the code after the FBI has used it? What guarantees can possibly be made that the code will not get leaked? (if recent events have taught us anything, it is that secrets eventually get discovered) If Apple develops this code, and this code should *EVER* make its way outside of Apple, where some particularly tenacious individual might figure out how to modify it to attack any phone and not just a single one....even if the guilty party is caught and all appropriate punishments are given, the damage will have already been done, and be completely irreparable, not only for Apple, but also for every single iPhone owner in the world
So yes, the FBI is asking Apple to put backdoors into every iPhone by writing this software.
It certainly never hurts going into a salary negotiation having clear knowledge of what the employer is willing to pay. It's less about earning what is important to you and more about simply knowing that you aren't going to try and overvalue yourself in a salary negotiation or your employer is undervaluing you.
Of course, if all you care about is money, and you don't care what people think of you or even necessarily what you think of yourself, then hey.... I suppose your system will work fine.
How do you know how much you are worth in the first place if you don't know what employers are willing to pay? Either your expectations are unrealistically high, in which case you'll be passed over, or your expectations are too low, and your employer is getting you for less money than he may have otherwise been willing to pay for your skills.
Because if the subject isn't taught, then almost nobody will ever really get very good at it.
People who happen to be good at math weren't born that way.... they still had to be taught. And it's not just about learning the basics and expecting someone to go forward from there, because getting good at math for most people requires practice.... and practicing to get good at something when you aren't very good to begin with, or don't understand it very well yet generally pushes people quite far outside of their own comfort zone.
Of course, it is only when we stretch ourselves beyond the levels that we are ordinarily comfortable that real learning can begin. If this person's proposal were ever taken seriously by academia, all that would happen is that we'd have fewer people able to do things that require this kind of education, and many of those who would otherwise have been very good at this sort of math will never discover their true potential.
Because since it apparently requires making changes to genes, this method of memory enhancement kind of limits what would otherwise have been the most obvious applications for anybody who has already exited a womb.
Or am I misunderstanding what "genetic tweaking" means?
"you will learn...?" I don't know which is sadder... that anyone would defend him, or that you might seriously mean to suggest that he would or even *could* somehow make good on your implied threat.
Again... not an issue insomuch as this article is concerned. It may interest you (or not) to know that fossil fuels *are* used to typically get things into space.
I know you were trying to troll, but this doesn't threaten oil companies... the applications for this kind of cell are mainly restricted to those where weight is a more important factor than strictly just the cell's efficiency, which is generally limited to things that are either space or near-space bound.
The biggest problem that I have with this so-called "right" is that it essentially amounts to trying to control what opinions people are permitted to form, by censoring which facts or even revised history they might be legitimately exposed to. In many respects, it has a similar agenda to Newspeak.
First of all, I am highly confident that Apple will not help the FBI unless or until it genuinely has absolutely no other choice.... that is to say, Apple would have to be directly ordered to cooperate by the supreme court, on pain of contempt charges, or else a new law will be passed that requires companies to assist law enforcement when they have appropriate orders from a court. I rather hope that does not happen, but I can easily see things going that way.
From there, if they should accidentally wipe the phone, or even if they are unsuccessful in their attempt, what protects them from being criminally charged for failure to cooperate? What evidence can Apple *possibly* provide at that point, particularly given their adamant refusal up until this point, that such inability to recover the data, or even any such so-called "accidental" wiping of the data was not actually deliberate sabotage by someone at apple? In the case of data wipe, why should the FBI believe that a bug which might be plainly obvious to someone after the fact had simply gone unnoticed by the developers until it was too late?
Clearly, this borders on the notion of being guilty until proven innocent, and it gravely concerns me that this is an all too realistic possibility.
As for the possibility that Apple will help them and succeed, I'm fairly sure that if this were to happen, there will be a mass bailout of Apple devices by absolutely everyone who has any sincere concerns about their privacy, but at least the public will be in a position to know that. I'd rather be in a position where I know a device is insecure and have the option to not use it for things where I am concerned about privacy than I would wish to not realize that the device was actually insecure in the first place. Anything else is just guesswork.... and while anyone can always make assumptions on the side of caution, knowledge one way or the other will always be more useful.
I can see merit in Apple cooperating, but the biggest concern I would have about it is what happens if they are unsuccessful? What of a bug causes unexpected data loss? This isn't exactly a situation where they can get multiple chances because the crack is only supposed to be for one specific iPhone. What happens if developing this tool takes really long? Does Apple get paid for their time while this is being developed or do they only get paid upon completion? If the latter, if they find nothing on the allegedly decrypted phone, will the Feds refuse to pay? If the former, will they sue Apple because Apple cannot necessarily prove that their effort was entirely bug free?
I completely understand Apple not wanting to do this, because there are far more ways it can end badly for them than positively, but I ultimately suspect that the only way they will ever see the end of this is if they try.
Except that your comment to which I first replied didn't address her situation specifically,,, your comment seemed to presume that nearly *anyone* who would find themselves in a position of being underemployed would somehow be guilty of the same level of self-entitlement as this partcular person.... you asked a question "what kind of idiot takes....?", which I took to be an open questioon. I answered that question... someone who has become desperate will take it because even not enough *IS* still better than nothing at all.... that not enough at least leaves the option open that one may be able to more easily find additional work that will eventually make up the difference more readily than they will find any single job that pays all of their expenses. I'm not suggesting that this was her case... there's sufficient evidence at hand in this matter to suggest that she wanted not just a life, but also a particular life *STYLE*, and I honestly don't have much sympathy for her in that respect.
But just because she was a whiner, doesn't mean that anyone who says they aren't making enough to live off of is.... yet this seems to be the position you are taking. It is just not as often generally heard from the people that are sincerely trying to improve their own situation because they are too busy working their asses off to have any significant time to stop and complain about it. Speaking as one who has been there, that doesn't mean they don't, however.
The biggest reason why Apple would not help, other than the possibility that there is no help they are capable of offering (which is conceivable), is that by doing so, they would be confirming beyond any shadow of doubt that it is even actually possible.
The realization that something is physically possible is a *HUGE* incentive for some people to try and figure out how it is done, and if Apple can do it, then so can other people... people with much more nefarious intentions than even an untrustworthy government.
There are tons of people who went to sleep with their computer running Windows 7, and woke up the next day with their computer in a non-usable state having tried and failed to upgrade itself to Windows 10, which the user did not want to do.
If any other software behaved this way, it would be called malware.
It's like ransomware, except without any ransom. You're just fucked no matter what you do.
How can you fully ensure that software tools are destroyed & never copied?
Even worse, if Apple does this and people find out that it is actually physically possible, how can you fully ensure that nobody else ever eventually figures out how Apple did it and replicates it in the wild?
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Sure... Unless laws are passed that outlaw the sale or import of any devices that the manufacturer or service provider cannot unlock upon request with a warrant.
Fair point....but that is like taking something like cancer, and instead of focusing on trying to prevent it, complaining that humans are vulnerable to it in the first place. Nobody can do anything about the devices that are already in existence, and playing the blame game over it accomplishes nothing.
The signing key is immaterial.... or do you think that jailbreaks are signed with Apple's official key?
If they could, then they wouldn't be asking Apple to do it. Also, if a judge says Apple doesn't have to do this, what incentive would Apple have to help someone compromise its product in a manner that Apple themselves cannot be compelled to do in the first place?
Yes, actually it does. And here's why:
If Apple goes ahead and does this, what happens to the code after the FBI has used it? What guarantees can possibly be made that the code will not get leaked? (if recent events have taught us anything, it is that secrets eventually get discovered) If Apple develops this code, and this code should *EVER* make its way outside of Apple, where some particularly tenacious individual might figure out how to modify it to attack any phone and not just a single one....even if the guilty party is caught and all appropriate punishments are given, the damage will have already been done, and be completely irreparable, not only for Apple, but also for every single iPhone owner in the world
So yes, the FBI is asking Apple to put backdoors into every iPhone by writing this software.
It certainly never hurts going into a salary negotiation having clear knowledge of what the employer is willing to pay. It's less about earning what is important to you and more about simply knowing that you aren't going to try and overvalue yourself in a salary negotiation or your employer is undervaluing you.
Of course, if all you care about is money, and you don't care what people think of you or even necessarily what you think of yourself, then hey.... I suppose your system will work fine.
How do you know how much you are worth in the first place if you don't know what employers are willing to pay? Either your expectations are unrealistically high, in which case you'll be passed over, or your expectations are too low, and your employer is getting you for less money than he may have otherwise been willing to pay for your skills.
Because if the subject isn't taught, then almost nobody will ever really get very good at it.
People who happen to be good at math weren't born that way.... they still had to be taught. And it's not just about learning the basics and expecting someone to go forward from there, because getting good at math for most people requires practice.... and practicing to get good at something when you aren't very good to begin with, or don't understand it very well yet generally pushes people quite far outside of their own comfort zone.
Of course, it is only when we stretch ourselves beyond the levels that we are ordinarily comfortable that real learning can begin. If this person's proposal were ever taken seriously by academia, all that would happen is that we'd have fewer people able to do things that require this kind of education, and many of those who would otherwise have been very good at this sort of math will never discover their true potential.
Because since it apparently requires making changes to genes, this method of memory enhancement kind of limits what would otherwise have been the most obvious applications for anybody who has already exited a womb.
Or am I misunderstanding what "genetic tweaking" means?
"you will learn...?" I don't know which is sadder... that anyone would defend him, or that you might seriously mean to suggest that he would or even *could* somehow make good on your implied threat.
They aren't efficient enough to be practical for rooftop solar, as far as I can tell.
Again... not an issue insomuch as this article is concerned. It may interest you (or not) to know that fossil fuels *are* used to typically get things into space.
I know you were trying to troll, but this doesn't threaten oil companies... the applications for this kind of cell are mainly restricted to those where weight is a more important factor than strictly just the cell's efficiency, which is generally limited to things that are either space or near-space bound.
The biggest problem that I have with this so-called "right" is that it essentially amounts to trying to control what opinions people are permitted to form, by censoring which facts or even revised history they might be legitimately exposed to. In many respects, it has a similar agenda to Newspeak.
First of all, I am highly confident that Apple will not help the FBI unless or until it genuinely has absolutely no other choice.... that is to say, Apple would have to be directly ordered to cooperate by the supreme court, on pain of contempt charges, or else a new law will be passed that requires companies to assist law enforcement when they have appropriate orders from a court. I rather hope that does not happen, but I can easily see things going that way.
From there, if they should accidentally wipe the phone, or even if they are unsuccessful in their attempt, what protects them from being criminally charged for failure to cooperate? What evidence can Apple *possibly* provide at that point, particularly given their adamant refusal up until this point, that such inability to recover the data, or even any such so-called "accidental" wiping of the data was not actually deliberate sabotage by someone at apple? In the case of data wipe, why should the FBI believe that a bug which might be plainly obvious to someone after the fact had simply gone unnoticed by the developers until it was too late?
Clearly, this borders on the notion of being guilty until proven innocent, and it gravely concerns me that this is an all too realistic possibility.
As for the possibility that Apple will help them and succeed, I'm fairly sure that if this were to happen, there will be a mass bailout of Apple devices by absolutely everyone who has any sincere concerns about their privacy, but at least the public will be in a position to know that. I'd rather be in a position where I know a device is insecure and have the option to not use it for things where I am concerned about privacy than I would wish to not realize that the device was actually insecure in the first place. Anything else is just guesswork.... and while anyone can always make assumptions on the side of caution, knowledge one way or the other will always be more useful.
I completely understand Apple not wanting to do this, because there are far more ways it can end badly for them than positively, but I ultimately suspect that the only way they will ever see the end of this is if they try.
Ironic, since the size of even a single larger transaction can sometimes exceed the amount that a consumer is allowed to withdraw electronically.
Have you personally met either, or especially both of them? If you had, you might be changing your mind.
The existence of jailbreaks would seem to be evidence that you are not entirely correct
I suspect you are right, but until they do actually do it, there can remain a shred of doubt in peoples' minds, however tiny.
But just because she was a whiner, doesn't mean that anyone who says they aren't making enough to live off of is.... yet this seems to be the position you are taking. It is just not as often generally heard from the people that are sincerely trying to improve their own situation because they are too busy working their asses off to have any significant time to stop and complain about it. Speaking as one who has been there, that doesn't mean they don't, however.
The biggest reason why Apple would not help, other than the possibility that there is no help they are capable of offering (which is conceivable), is that by doing so, they would be confirming beyond any shadow of doubt that it is even actually possible.
The realization that something is physically possible is a *HUGE* incentive for some people to try and figure out how it is done, and if Apple can do it, then so can other people... people with much more nefarious intentions than even an untrustworthy government.
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If any other software behaved this way, it would be called malware.
It's like ransomware, except without any ransom. You're just fucked no matter what you do.
Even worse, if Apple does this and people find out that it is actually physically possible, how can you fully ensure that nobody else ever eventually figures out how Apple did it and replicates it in the wild?