I'm beginning to wonder why they allow jury trials for issues that are as technically complexe as this,
That's something I've never understood about the US legal system.
I read articles stating that "the jury awarded Joe Blow 85 million dollars but the judge reduced the award to 1 million."
If it's in the judge's discretion to reduce the award like that, why not just allow him to set the amount of the award in the first place and save everyone a lot of time?
So? I might not know much about plumbing but I can still look at construction codes.
I mean we geeks do only because we know this stuff.
So let the geeks look at it. If there is any problem, one of said geeks can blow the whistle.
Joe Six Pack could give a rat's ass. If it was up to JSP, they'd still be using pencil and paper.
And I agree with JSP. Normally I'm one of the first to push a high-tech solution to any problem (let the computer do the heavy lifting!) but when it comes to voting I think pencil and a ballot paper is just fine and dandy.
A single CPU license (the first one) costs $699. Any more cost $749. Isn't that backwards?
Doesn't SCO claim that its properties include only SMP and related technologies? If that's the case, then a single CPU license would not be required at all because SCO's technologies apply only to multiple-CPU boxes.
Mind you, their story has changed so often it's hard to know what they actually claim now. Today's claims are probably different than yesterdays. Oh, it's after noon? Then the claims are different than they were this morning.
At the tail end of last week I received trailers for "Anti Piracy PSA" from "respectcopyrights.org". No explanatory note or anything came with the trailers; they were just tossed in with my regular shipment from the film warehouse.
So I guess you can expect to see these trailers soon at a theatre near you; I'm sure I'm far from the only one who got them.
we'd all still be using DOS or a unix shell and everything would be console based without the use of a mouse!
In many applications (data-entry, for one) keyboard-only input and control is much better than mousing around. If the operator can keep his/her hands on the keyboard and keep entering the data, there is no need to fumble around grabbing a mouse and clicking buttons.
At lots of cafes and at many Universities, wireless internet access, which is available for free to everyone, and is anonymous, is becoming increasingly popular.
The point is, though, that these things are not universally available and are not as convenient for the end-user to get to even when they are available.
Most folks are more likely to download songs or make them available to others from the desktop computer in their home office or living room than they are from their laptop computer while sitting in Starbucks.
That's the point, I think. Making the act more inconvenient equals having less people doing that act.
About ten years ago I decided that my job wasn't fun any more so I quit and started my own business doing something that I knew I would enjoy doing.
I'm much less stressed-out than I ever used to be and lead a much nicer life overall than I ever used to. I make less money than I did before, but I make a living. Good enough for me.
is it possible for IBM/Redhat etc to sell copies of Linux with the added bonus that they indemnify buyers of their products from legal action against them concerning copyright?
This is addressed in this article. Note that the article itself is another example of "hysteria feeding". But it is addressed here.
Such as? I'm genuinely curious, not doubting you; I think it would be interesting to examine the merits of such a system.
In Canada there is a procedure called a "referral", where the government can send a proposed law to the Supreme Court of Canada and get an opinion on it. This procedure is not used very often but the new law about gay marriages will apparently be "referred" before being passed.
Laptop keyboards *suck*. Also, bring your own mouse to plugin, because laptop 'touch mice' are a joke too.
I'll second that! I have Microsoft Natural keyboards on all of the computers that I use regularly and can barely type on a regular "straight" keyboard any more. But I can type for far longer periods on these split keyboards than I ever could on the old straight ones.
I've never seen a laptop with a split keyboard on it. Does such a thing even exist?
Not all email that doesn't originate in the USA is spam. Using this as a spam filter would balkanize Internet email and make it "domestic USA mail only" for US residents, and available internationally only for those who live elsewhere.
dont they have to provide the source if they EVER distributed it...so couldnt you call them up and say you want to see the source for [insert file name you want but they dont give]
If you bought or otherwise "obtained" the package in question from SCO then yes.
if they say no, they get slapped with a gpl lawsuit because they wont give the source
If you're just Joe Schmoe they don't have to give you anything.
They made themselves and their opinions very visible in very public areas.
They made themselves very visible. Indeed. However, they appear to have made their opinions less so. How is it fowarding the agenda when the "good Linux guys" are hugging Darl Mcbride?
They
In doing this, they made their protest successful.
They made themselves visible, but they didn't actually make their point. I still think it looks like a simple picnic to me.
They got print coverage in a few local papers (Deseret News is actually fairly big in Utah), and rumor has it that a TV crew got some shots
That's nice. Too bad the protesters weren't visibly protesting at the time.
I saw another comment where someone stated that "everyone had a good time". Well, the point of the protest wasn't (or shouldn't have been) to have a good time. Can you imagine a Teamsters strike where the management folks are playing games on the lawn with the strikers?
I'm sorry, but I don't think media coverage is the be-all and end-all of a protest. Media coverage of a protest is important, but the folks appearing on television (or whereever) should be there for the purpose of making their point heard, not just to say, "Hey Grandma, I'm on the 6:00 news!"
The lawsuit seems to still be moving forward, but is that really a surprise?
Of course not. But an opportunity to whip up public support for the cause appears to have been wasted here.
Why are the linux dorks being buddy buddy with their arms around the SCO CEO?
Indeed.
Unfortunately, actions like these take the whole point away from having the protest in the first place.
I recognize that "techies" are not particularly good at protesting stuff; that's not what they do and there is no reason why they should be. However, this action by Canopy (provide drinks for everyone, buddy-buddy with folks there and "We're all friends now!") was a calculated public relations move to diffuse the impact of the protest.
If the protest was a cold, "Screw you SCO" affair, that's a real protest and will be portrayed as such. This, however, appears to have been turned into a simple picnic on SCO's front lawn.
With regard to postal mail (you know -- the stuff on paper that comes in an envelope) the letter is the property of the addressee as soon as it is put into a mailbox.
I suspect email would be the same -- it's the property of the addressee and not the property of the sender.
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if IBM ultimately is awarded ownership of Unix, and they GPL the entirely of it afterwards, that in itself will royally screw over Sun (Solaris) HP (HP-UX) and probably Microsoft too, since they would have to GPL any of their code from that point onwards which was made from Unix.
I don't think this would make any difference to them. As long as their new product was based on their own source tree (in turn based on the pre-GPL Unix) then their license would not change.
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Why the hell would someone write out saying they saw the code and never once mention a single file name or function name for that matter?
He focussed on the jokes that were similar. So, how about telling us what the joke was, which may be easier to remember than a filename.
What use are vague references to jokes in comments?
Well, maybe he could tell us the jokes. It might be easier for a non-technical guy to remember something that was supposed to be "funny" than to remember the name of a function call. If he can say, "The joke referred to this item" then we could find that joke in the source code and continue on from there.
AND they are coming out with a Linux compiler! w00t.
I love PowerBASIC. And PowerBASIC/DOS runs perfectly under DOSEMU on my Red Hat Linux box. In fact, I just finished writing a project in PB/DOS last week.
I'm waiting and drooling over a version of PowerBasic for Linux just like you are -- when it's released I'll definitely be among the first few customers. However, PB/Linux has been "coming real soon now" since about 1998.....
Depending on exactly what it is that you want to do, you may not need or want a colour laser printer.
If you're doing reasonably high-volume duplicating, but not such a high volume that an offset press is required, then what you want is a machine called a "digital duplicator", such as a Risograph. It's sort of a cross between a photocopier and one of the old crank Gestetner duplicating machines that used to be popular in schools. You put your original document on the scanner board just like a photocopier, then hit the "make master" button. After that, you set the number of copies that you want and let 'er rip, at about 120 pages per minute.
It's much faster than a photocopier or any laser printer, and about 10% of the cost per sheet as well.
in other words, that type of customer isn't in the market for a high-end card, doesn't read benchmarks, and won't be affected anyway. The people who do research benchmarks will see--actually, have seen--through the legalspeak and understand that nothing about FutureMark's original announcement has really changed.
I disagree.
The type of customer that I'm thinking of is the one who walks into the store and says "I want SuperDuper XXX with a 32bit frigmataz and the blue sticker on the box." In other words, a kid who has no idea of what the terminology actually means, but wants what was recommended to him by his buddy George who goes to school in the next town and has a super-cool copy of some hacker tool that, well, we don't know what it does but it has a cool name, and his sister is kind of cute too, you know, but of course we can't admit that.
George says, "Look at this. This has a bigger number than that one!" and Little Johnny plonks down his cash.
NVIDIA works closely with developers to optimize games for GeForceFX. These optimizations (including shader optimizations) are the result of the co-development process.
I'm sure Nvidia's engineers are falling all over themselves to assist the folks who work on open source games too.
I'm waiting for their call asking "How can we help optimize Mame"...
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I'm beginning to wonder why they allow jury trials for issues that are as technically complexe as this,
That's something I've never understood about the US legal system.
I read articles stating that "the jury awarded Joe Blow 85 million dollars but the judge reduced the award to 1 million."
If it's in the judge's discretion to reduce the award like that, why not just allow him to set the amount of the award in the first place and save everyone a lot of time?
But odds are, the people don't give a rat's ass.
So? I might not know much about plumbing but I can still look at construction codes.
I mean we geeks do only because we know this stuff.
So let the geeks look at it. If there is any problem, one of said geeks can blow the whistle.
Joe Six Pack could give a rat's ass. If it was up to JSP, they'd still be using pencil and paper.
And I agree with JSP. Normally I'm one of the first to push a high-tech solution to any problem (let the computer do the heavy lifting!) but when it comes to voting I think pencil and a ballot paper is just fine and dandy.
A single CPU license (the first one) costs $699. Any more cost $749. Isn't that backwards?
Doesn't SCO claim that its properties include only SMP and related technologies? If that's the case, then a single CPU license would not be required at all because SCO's technologies apply only to multiple-CPU boxes.
Mind you, their story has changed so often it's hard to know what they actually claim now. Today's claims are probably different than yesterdays. Oh, it's after noon? Then the claims are different than they were this morning.
In real life, I run a movie theatre.
At the tail end of last week I received trailers for "Anti Piracy PSA" from "respectcopyrights.org". No explanatory note or anything came with the trailers; they were just tossed in with my regular shipment from the film warehouse.
So I guess you can expect to see these trailers soon at a theatre near you; I'm sure I'm far from the only one who got them.
Do you game without using a mouse?
*ahem*
Do you browse the internet by tabbing though all your links?
*cough*
Do you invoke the powers of Jesus Christ to double-click icons for you?
Praise the Lord!
Well, you did ask....
we'd all still be using DOS or a unix shell and everything would be console based without the use of a mouse!
In many applications (data-entry, for one) keyboard-only input and control is much better than mousing around. If the operator can keep his/her hands on the keyboard and keep entering the data, there is no need to fumble around grabbing a mouse and clicking buttons.
At lots of cafes and at many Universities, wireless internet access, which is available for free to everyone, and is anonymous, is becoming increasingly popular.
The point is, though, that these things are not universally available and are not as convenient for the end-user to get to even when they are available.
Most folks are more likely to download songs or make them available to others from the desktop computer in their home office or living room than they are from their laptop computer while sitting in Starbucks.
That's the point, I think. Making the act more inconvenient equals having less people doing that act.
boils down to "work isn't fun."
It isn't?
I think you're in the wrong job then.
About ten years ago I decided that my job wasn't fun any more so I quit and started my own business doing something that I knew I would enjoy doing.
I'm much less stressed-out than I ever used to be and lead a much nicer life overall than I ever used to. I make less money than I did before, but I make a living. Good enough for me.
but is free and supports more formats.
and less platforms. 7-zip is Windows only.
is it possible for IBM/Redhat etc to sell copies of Linux with the added bonus that they indemnify buyers of their products from legal action against them concerning copyright?
This is addressed in this article. Note that the article itself is another example of "hysteria feeding". But it is addressed here.
Such as? I'm genuinely curious, not doubting you; I think it would be interesting to examine the merits of such a system.
In Canada there is a procedure called a "referral", where the government can send a proposed law to the Supreme Court of Canada and get an opinion on it. This procedure is not used very often but the new law about gay marriages will apparently be "referred" before being passed.
Laptop keyboards *suck*. Also, bring your own mouse to plugin, because laptop 'touch mice' are a joke too.
I'll second that! I have Microsoft Natural keyboards on all of the computers that I use regularly and can barely type on a regular "straight" keyboard any more. But I can type for far longer periods on these split keyboards than I ever could on the old straight ones.
I've never seen a laptop with a split keyboard on it. Does such a thing even exist?
Not all email that doesn't originate in the USA is spam. Using this as a spam filter would balkanize Internet email and make it "domestic USA mail only" for US residents, and available internationally only for those who live elsewhere.
Linus goes to SCO's site, tonight, and downloads Linux source.
Apparently the kernel source is no longer available on their site.
they claim to have IP, but they knowingly gave it away under an open source license, months after they "knew" of the IP.
Looks like they have just now stopped.
dont they have to provide the source if they EVER distributed it...so couldnt you call them up and say you want to see the source for [insert file name you want but they dont give]
If you bought or otherwise "obtained" the package in question from SCO then yes.
if they say no, they get slapped with a gpl lawsuit because they wont give the source
If you're just Joe Schmoe they don't have to give you anything.
They made themselves and their opinions very visible in very public areas.
They made themselves very visible. Indeed. However, they appear to have made their opinions less so. How is it fowarding the agenda when the "good Linux guys" are hugging Darl Mcbride?
They
In doing this, they made their protest successful.
They made themselves visible, but they didn't actually make their point. I still think it looks like a simple picnic to me.
They got print coverage in a few local papers (Deseret News is actually fairly big in Utah), and rumor has it that a TV crew got some shots
That's nice. Too bad the protesters weren't visibly protesting at the time.
I saw another comment where someone stated that "everyone had a good time". Well, the point of the protest wasn't (or shouldn't have been) to have a good time. Can you imagine a Teamsters strike where the management folks are playing games on the lawn with the strikers?
I'm sorry, but I don't think media coverage is the be-all and end-all of a protest. Media coverage of a protest is important, but the folks appearing on television (or whereever) should be there for the purpose of making their point heard, not just to say, "Hey Grandma, I'm on the 6:00 news!"
The lawsuit seems to still be moving forward, but is that really a surprise?
Of course not. But an opportunity to whip up public support for the cause appears to have been wasted here.
Why are the linux dorks being buddy buddy with their arms around the SCO CEO?
Indeed.
Unfortunately, actions like these take the whole point away from having the protest in the first place.
I recognize that "techies" are not particularly good at protesting stuff; that's not what they do and there is no reason why they should be. However, this action by Canopy (provide drinks for everyone, buddy-buddy with folks there and "We're all friends now!") was a calculated public relations move to diffuse the impact of the protest.
If the protest was a cold, "Screw you SCO" affair, that's a real protest and will be portrayed as such. This, however, appears to have been turned into a simple picnic on SCO's front lawn.
Which is exactly what SCO wanted.
With regard to postal mail (you know -- the stuff on paper that comes in an envelope) the letter is the property of the addressee as soon as it is put into a mailbox.
I suspect email would be the same -- it's the property of the addressee and not the property of the sender.
if IBM ultimately is awarded ownership of Unix, and they GPL the entirely of it afterwards, that in itself will royally screw over Sun (Solaris) HP (HP-UX) and probably Microsoft too, since they would have to GPL any of their code from that point onwards which was made from Unix.
I don't think this would make any difference to them. As long as their new product was based on their own source tree (in turn based on the pre-GPL Unix) then their license would not change.
Why the hell would someone write out saying they saw the code and never once mention a single file name or function name for that matter?
He focussed on the jokes that were similar. So, how about telling us what the joke was, which may be easier to remember than a filename.
What use are vague references to jokes in comments?
Well, maybe he could tell us the jokes. It might be easier for a non-technical guy to remember something that was supposed to be "funny" than to remember the name of a function call. If he can say, "The joke referred to this item" then we could find that joke in the source code and continue on from there.
AND they are coming out with a Linux compiler! w00t.
I love PowerBASIC. And PowerBASIC/DOS runs perfectly under DOSEMU on my Red Hat Linux box. In fact, I just finished writing a project in PB/DOS last week.
I'm waiting and drooling over a version of PowerBasic for Linux just like you are -- when it's released I'll definitely be among the first few customers. However, PB/Linux has been "coming real soon now" since about 1998.....
Depending on exactly what it is that you want to do, you may not need or want a colour laser printer.
If you're doing reasonably high-volume duplicating, but not such a high volume that an offset press is required, then what you want is a machine called a "digital duplicator", such as a Risograph. It's sort of a cross between a photocopier and one of the old crank Gestetner duplicating machines that used to be popular in schools. You put your original document on the scanner board just like a photocopier, then hit the "make master" button. After that, you set the number of copies that you want and let 'er rip, at about 120 pages per minute.
It's much faster than a photocopier or any laser printer, and about 10% of the cost per sheet as well.
in other words, that type of customer isn't in the market for a high-end card, doesn't read benchmarks, and won't be affected anyway. The people who do research benchmarks will see--actually, have seen--through the legalspeak and understand that nothing about FutureMark's original announcement has really changed.
I disagree.
The type of customer that I'm thinking of is the one who walks into the store and says "I want SuperDuper XXX with a 32bit frigmataz and the blue sticker on the box." In other words, a kid who has no idea of what the terminology actually means, but wants what was recommended to him by his buddy George who goes to school in the next town and has a super-cool copy of some hacker tool that, well, we don't know what it does but it has a cool name, and his sister is kind of cute too, you know, but of course we can't admit that.
George says, "Look at this. This has a bigger number than that one!" and Little Johnny plonks down his cash.
NVIDIA works closely with developers to optimize games for GeForceFX. These optimizations (including shader optimizations) are the result of the co-development process.
I'm sure Nvidia's engineers are falling all over themselves to assist the folks who work on open source games too.
I'm waiting for their call asking "How can we help optimize Mame"...