How about you stop being an apologist for the criminal organization Anonymous. While in this case, the results were minor, the outcome could have been much more drastic. No, It is about time the Anonymous and all the people that actively (Keys) and passively ( you fall into this category). come to grips with the fact that while non violent, they are no less criminals than John Gotti was. They are organized and they are criminals. They reason why you and others that frequent/. see this as a crime worth a stiff penalty is that you have not been on the receiving end of cyber crime. You don't like the corporation so you turn a blind eye to this.
I have been in your place, damaged left hand/wrist/forearm. I do a lot of typing, but a lot of it is repetitive, programming is like that. I used/use a programmable keyboard. in my case i use a MS Ergo keyboard, but i have supplemented it with a Genovation ControlPad 682 USB This is a 32 row column keyboard that has 31 programmable buttons each with 2 levels for a total of 62 key functions. you can program it to do many things. Of course there are many other Brands and types of Programmable keyboards and what you use would be what fits your situation best.
Like most Governmental information it is phrased in a way that in my opinion is misleading. you do realize that 19 Million is a lot of people, but it is less than 7% of the total population. There are many more that can not cable access, natural gas for heating ad cooking, and many other things. 100% coverage for broadband is all but impossible. There are areas in the US that it just is not financially feasible to supply. And the last thing we want is the Government getting in providing it. The is a disaster. All things being equal, the government can screw up anything.
Having been in information systems for 35 years, I feel that whole argument is salacious. Having user many different databases, many different languages, I have found that in the end, it is best to use that database/language that fits the application best. Of course you have to take in the skill set of the available resources. But the ultimate goal is to produce a product that is usable and fills a need. You can argue forever what is the best to use, and get nothing done. Been there, done that, have the scars to prove it.
This Guy comes across as a Socialist that does not understand that without a profit The internet would die. Money Making Commerce is what makes the internet viable without it we would be back to pre-www days. He really needs to get a grip.
This is an interesting development. If it works out, great. If it does not work out, they learn from the failure. All technology must by its nature evolve or become outmoded and worthless. As we know Computers are the poster child for technology evolution. Many more attempts to approve computers, faster, more memory, faster disks, etc have failed then succeeded.
To me it does not matter if it works, IT would be nice if it did, but it is not earth shaking if it fails.
The exact violation is called contributing to the delinquency of a minor. It might be hard to convict, but it would not be hard to get an arrest order for the any presenter.
No, Businesses want and need most of all stability and compatibility.
I work for a company that has over 500 different applications, many of them are web based. Most of them require IE. IT is not that IE is better, it is the base applications are written specifically for IE. Now some people will say that this is bad, I disagree. Business applications are by their very nature much more mundane than non business applications. The Need is for the browser application partnership to work together as best as they possible can. This requires stable, tested, supported code that will be in place for not weeks, but years. If an application that supports IE7 or IE8 or FF, is not available and your company depends on that application, you stick to what works. As a matter of fact, If you do not use the supported combination, the software vendor does not have to supply support under the terms of the support contract. One has to compatibility with the certified support model for an application. Understand that this is not done as a slap to FF, Chrome, Opera, or any other browser, it is done to maintain the largest base for the product. It does not pay for a software outfit to write for every Browser.
You will find that many an IT department cringes every time an new browser version is released. Every one wants to stay current, but it is not possible if you have to maintain compatibility across thousands of PC with hundreds of applications.
This issue/situation is also the reason that a business may have applications on out of date server/OS combinations.
In Business, that which supplied you with the computer you are using at this minute, profit is the only thing of value. with out profit companies fail, others step in to take their place. Your concept of "feel Good" or "greater good" was tried, It was called the soviet Union. It failed, Why, cause governments can not and should not run economies. They produced the worst material goods in the world. everything they build was trash. Ask the people that lived through it.
I live in Michigan, I know Rust Belt.
The steel industry in the US collapsed due to the labor unions and the outrageous demands the made. In the 1960's steel companies around the world were building electric fired steel plants. In Ohio, Illonis, Indiana, Pennsylvania labor unions were demanding that US steel industry NOT convert to electric fire plants due to the immediate obsolescence of about 15% of the union work force. Who needs coke stokers when there is no coke? No. the steel industry did it to themselves. The unions made outrageous demands and the steel companies blindly walked the plank. Good ridden to bad people, management and laborer got exactly what they deserved. US Steel prices so high that it made sense to pay to have it transported 3 to 5 thousand miles.
I was there, I saw the whole thing collapse.
No, If Tesla can not make it on their own, without governmental support they do no deserve to exist. A great goal does not justify governmental intervention. Before you get to warped, I disagreed with and will always disagree with the government intervening in any business, there is no such thing as too big to fail.
You are absolutely correct. Every person that gave him information during the stand off could and should be held accountable. There is no difference in this than if he was on the phone to people doing the same thing. Depending on the law in that state, if he had fired at any one, police or otherwise, the people supplying information could very well be charged with conspiracy to murder and attempted murder. These are very serious charges.
This is not learning programming, this is the dumbing down of IT staff. Programming is learn how something works, why it works. Using the building block of knowledge to produce code that does something. Using the knowledge to fix issues, to make modifications, to add functionality, to make it more efficient. I have had to learn over 20 programming languages over the 35 years of programming in my career. I have programmed functions that had never been done before.
This is not programming, it is cookie cutter plug and play, there is no creativity, no thinking out of the box, no risk taking, no pushing the boundaries. These "programmers" will never understand what it is they do and why it works.
Do you think any group of these "programmers" could create Doom? Word? Excel? Wordpro? word perfect? I am afraid the response is...."not a chance"
its call competition. Fair market capitalist competition, IT is not government tax payers keeping socialist organizations alive. let them die, force competition. Stop living off the taxpayer, cause that is what WiscNet is. that what all Colleges and Universities are.
as opposed to government for the lazy, living off the taxpayers pocketbook, producing unusable, poorly trained garbage that can not compete in the real world. What you want is a free ride. Corporations, large and small, employee people in a competitive environment. It amazes me that you live in the country created by capitalism, using an internet that was build but those corporations you so greatly hate, yet wish them not to be there. like the people that hate Bill Gates, you loath that which allows you to do what you can do, yet you would be by far worse off without them. Who owns the phone lines, who owns the cable lines? Not you. It is called private property. you do not like it, fine build your own. compete, stop using the government to give you what you want.
You forget that corporation are businesses, and like all business, they are owned by people. people that have the right to strive, to compete, to gain wealth.
unlike all governmental organizations, that are nothing but a drain on the tax payers pockets. Some are necessary, some are not. but all are socialistic in the sense that they do not face real world competition.
Viva the Corporation, for with out them, you would not have that computer you are working on, would be unable to communicate anywhere in the world. you would walk, and live to be about 40, if you were lucky.
well the telecoms actually add jobs to the community. They may get some subsides and tax cuts ( both of which I hate and would like to eliminate), but they do not live off the tax payers pocketbook. they compete unlike these socialist organizations we call public institutions. Not one of them should get any form of the Feds. Live in the real world, get off the public dime and compete. purchase goods and services at fair market prices like every one else does.
actually this should have happened years ago. WiscNet and the like are nothing but socialist organizations living off the taxpayers. It is about time that they join the real world and face the financial realities of real life. Possible the cry babies here should realize that public employees of all types, but exspecially teachers are overpaid and under worked. They work in a socialist cocoon where they never have to compete for jobs and have come to think of their special perks as mandatory. It is time to get the educations systems hand out of the tax payers pocket as much as possible. live in the real world. to paraphrase your last comment, "hey socialist, go to hell and get your hand out of my pocket".
I would suggest that this be a lesson. Your heart was in the right place, but you are donating to a legal defense fund for a person under investigation for a serious violation of US Federal Law. Now wither that law is dumb is not at issue. Any contact, can and most likely be found during the discovery process. What is done with it is another thing altogether. Lawyers, be they Civil, Criminal defense or Prosecutors will push the limits of the letter and the intent of the search warrant. To you think for a moment that the defense in this case would hesitate a second to hide this if they could? The second you used a third party to donate money, in this case Paypal, you can never claim confidentiality, at least under Federal Law. Also The Federal Courts have the right to issue electronic search warrants for "Business" records of any company doing business int he US.
actually Sociology, Philosophy, Theology, Religion for the most part do have a very useful place in the world. Science, for all its wonders doesn't have the answers to every questions of man. I am not presuming to make Religion or any of the pseudo sciences as answers, but as a development of the mind of man that reaches beyond what can be proved. They are probably wrong, but that is not the point, science is wrong on many things, At one time science believe that man could not survive travel at more than 30 miles per hour. At one time science thought that the proton, neutron, and electron were the smallest particles in the universe, they were wrong. Science or at least it was supposed to be science had been used to convince people of every thing from man made global warming to racial and gender inferiority. Science is a belief system, religion is a belief system. they are neither all inclusive or all exclusive. Science, the hard sciences at least at based on the belief that everything is concrete, based in matter and energy. Pseudo science and religion are based on intangibles.
Do I believe in god, I answer that I am a "don-car', it means is "do not care". Do I believe in science can explain it all? I do not. If we stick to provable science, we have no fiction, no faster than light travel, no magic, no love, no charity, no hope. Look not to religion for scientific proof. Look not to science for the intrinsic part of life that can not be defined, explained, or otherwise quantified.
wrong. As long as they get a single dollar from the Government or private sources, they should have to patent it to claim exclusive right and pay just like every one else does, no exemptions
then do not rely on the Government to pay for it. Only Government money came with strings. Get off the damn Government dole. The citizen suffer cause idiots like you think the government is the answer and not the cause of most of our problems.
horse crap. the polio vaccine was developed as a profit making venture. "the greater good" is serviced by capitalism having the incentive to make a profit while helping others.
I was alive then I know what happened,
Imagine, Researchers not getting their own way, first that mean bunch of Conservative think the people of the US should not have to pay for them trying to play god. Then, Goodness they have to compete for private funds; gasp!!! Then the people that did invest want ownership of the results; the savages. Lest be completely honest about this. Most organizations that do medical research live off of government money, they think they know better then everyone else. They cry and cry when they do not get their own way, then if they do succeed, they want the money from it. Guess what folks, this is still a Free enterprise country. If you patent a process, if you pay to have it developed, you own it, the government should have 0 say in it. Remember, the Saulk group developed the polio Vaccine as a profit making project.
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How about you stop being an apologist for the criminal organization Anonymous. While in this case, the results were minor, the outcome could have been much more drastic. No, It is about time the Anonymous and all the people that actively (Keys) and passively ( you fall into this category). come to grips with the fact that while non violent, they are no less criminals than John Gotti was. They are organized and they are criminals. They reason why you and others that frequent /. see this as a crime worth a stiff penalty is that you have not been on the receiving end of cyber crime. You don't like the corporation so you turn a blind eye to this.
I have been in your place, damaged left hand/wrist/forearm. I do a lot of typing, but a lot of it is repetitive, programming is like that. I used/use a programmable keyboard. in my case i use a MS Ergo keyboard, but i have supplemented it with a Genovation ControlPad 682 USB This is a 32 row column keyboard that has 31 programmable buttons each with 2 levels for a total of 62 key functions. you can program it to do many things. Of course there are many other Brands and types of Programmable keyboards and what you use would be what fits your situation best.
Like most Governmental information it is phrased in a way that in my opinion is misleading. you do realize that 19 Million is a lot of people, but it is less than 7% of the total population. There are many more that can not cable access, natural gas for heating ad cooking, and many other things. 100% coverage for broadband is all but impossible. There are areas in the US that it just is not financially feasible to supply. And the last thing we want is the Government getting in providing it. The is a disaster. All things being equal, the government can screw up anything.
Having been in information systems for 35 years, I feel that whole argument is salacious. Having user many different databases, many different languages, I have found that in the end, it is best to use that database/language that fits the application best. Of course you have to take in the skill set of the available resources. But the ultimate goal is to produce a product that is usable and fills a need. You can argue forever what is the best to use, and get nothing done. Been there, done that, have the scars to prove it.
This Guy comes across as a Socialist that does not understand that without a profit The internet would die. Money Making Commerce is what makes the internet viable without it we would be back to pre-www days. He really needs to get a grip.
This is an interesting development. If it works out, great. If it does not work out, they learn from the failure. All technology must by its nature evolve or become outmoded and worthless. As we know Computers are the poster child for technology evolution. Many more attempts to approve computers, faster, more memory, faster disks, etc have failed then succeeded. To me it does not matter if it works, IT would be nice if it did, but it is not earth shaking if it fails.
The exact violation is called contributing to the delinquency of a minor. It might be hard to convict, but it would not be hard to get an arrest order for the any presenter.
No, Businesses want and need most of all stability and compatibility. I work for a company that has over 500 different applications, many of them are web based. Most of them require IE. IT is not that IE is better, it is the base applications are written specifically for IE. Now some people will say that this is bad, I disagree. Business applications are by their very nature much more mundane than non business applications. The Need is for the browser application partnership to work together as best as they possible can. This requires stable, tested, supported code that will be in place for not weeks, but years. If an application that supports IE7 or IE8 or FF, is not available and your company depends on that application, you stick to what works. As a matter of fact, If you do not use the supported combination, the software vendor does not have to supply support under the terms of the support contract. One has to compatibility with the certified support model for an application. Understand that this is not done as a slap to FF, Chrome, Opera, or any other browser, it is done to maintain the largest base for the product. It does not pay for a software outfit to write for every Browser. You will find that many an IT department cringes every time an new browser version is released. Every one wants to stay current, but it is not possible if you have to maintain compatibility across thousands of PC with hundreds of applications. This issue/situation is also the reason that a business may have applications on out of date server/OS combinations.
In Business, that which supplied you with the computer you are using at this minute, profit is the only thing of value. with out profit companies fail, others step in to take their place. Your concept of "feel Good" or "greater good" was tried, It was called the soviet Union. It failed, Why, cause governments can not and should not run economies. They produced the worst material goods in the world. everything they build was trash. Ask the people that lived through it.
I live in Michigan, I know Rust Belt. The steel industry in the US collapsed due to the labor unions and the outrageous demands the made. In the 1960's steel companies around the world were building electric fired steel plants. In Ohio, Illonis, Indiana, Pennsylvania labor unions were demanding that US steel industry NOT convert to electric fire plants due to the immediate obsolescence of about 15% of the union work force. Who needs coke stokers when there is no coke? No. the steel industry did it to themselves. The unions made outrageous demands and the steel companies blindly walked the plank. Good ridden to bad people, management and laborer got exactly what they deserved. US Steel prices so high that it made sense to pay to have it transported 3 to 5 thousand miles. I was there, I saw the whole thing collapse.
No, If Tesla can not make it on their own, without governmental support they do no deserve to exist. A great goal does not justify governmental intervention. Before you get to warped, I disagreed with and will always disagree with the government intervening in any business, there is no such thing as too big to fail.
You are absolutely correct. Every person that gave him information during the stand off could and should be held accountable. There is no difference in this than if he was on the phone to people doing the same thing. Depending on the law in that state, if he had fired at any one, police or otherwise, the people supplying information could very well be charged with conspiracy to murder and attempted murder. These are very serious charges.
This is not learning programming, this is the dumbing down of IT staff. Programming is learn how something works, why it works. Using the building block of knowledge to produce code that does something. Using the knowledge to fix issues, to make modifications, to add functionality, to make it more efficient. I have had to learn over 20 programming languages over the 35 years of programming in my career. I have programmed functions that had never been done before. This is not programming, it is cookie cutter plug and play, there is no creativity, no thinking out of the box, no risk taking, no pushing the boundaries. These "programmers" will never understand what it is they do and why it works. Do you think any group of these "programmers" could create Doom? Word? Excel? Wordpro? word perfect? I am afraid the response is...."not a chance"
its call competition. Fair market capitalist competition, IT is not government tax payers keeping socialist organizations alive. let them die, force competition. Stop living off the taxpayer, cause that is what WiscNet is. that what all Colleges and Universities are.
as opposed to government for the lazy, living off the taxpayers pocketbook, producing unusable, poorly trained garbage that can not compete in the real world. What you want is a free ride. Corporations, large and small, employee people in a competitive environment. It amazes me that you live in the country created by capitalism, using an internet that was build but those corporations you so greatly hate, yet wish them not to be there. like the people that hate Bill Gates, you loath that which allows you to do what you can do, yet you would be by far worse off without them. Who owns the phone lines, who owns the cable lines? Not you. It is called private property. you do not like it, fine build your own. compete, stop using the government to give you what you want. You forget that corporation are businesses, and like all business, they are owned by people. people that have the right to strive, to compete, to gain wealth. unlike all governmental organizations, that are nothing but a drain on the tax payers pockets. Some are necessary, some are not. but all are socialistic in the sense that they do not face real world competition. Viva the Corporation, for with out them, you would not have that computer you are working on, would be unable to communicate anywhere in the world. you would walk, and live to be about 40, if you were lucky.
well the telecoms actually add jobs to the community. They may get some subsides and tax cuts ( both of which I hate and would like to eliminate), but they do not live off the tax payers pocketbook. they compete unlike these socialist organizations we call public institutions. Not one of them should get any form of the Feds. Live in the real world, get off the public dime and compete. purchase goods and services at fair market prices like every one else does.
actually this should have happened years ago. WiscNet and the like are nothing but socialist organizations living off the taxpayers. It is about time that they join the real world and face the financial realities of real life. Possible the cry babies here should realize that public employees of all types, but exspecially teachers are overpaid and under worked. They work in a socialist cocoon where they never have to compete for jobs and have come to think of their special perks as mandatory. It is time to get the educations systems hand out of the tax payers pocket as much as possible. live in the real world. to paraphrase your last comment, "hey socialist, go to hell and get your hand out of my pocket".
I would suggest that this be a lesson. Your heart was in the right place, but you are donating to a legal defense fund for a person under investigation for a serious violation of US Federal Law. Now wither that law is dumb is not at issue. Any contact, can and most likely be found during the discovery process. What is done with it is another thing altogether. Lawyers, be they Civil, Criminal defense or Prosecutors will push the limits of the letter and the intent of the search warrant. To you think for a moment that the defense in this case would hesitate a second to hide this if they could? The second you used a third party to donate money, in this case Paypal, you can never claim confidentiality, at least under Federal Law. Also The Federal Courts have the right to issue electronic search warrants for "Business" records of any company doing business int he US.
actually Sociology, Philosophy, Theology, Religion for the most part do have a very useful place in the world. Science, for all its wonders doesn't have the answers to every questions of man. I am not presuming to make Religion or any of the pseudo sciences as answers, but as a development of the mind of man that reaches beyond what can be proved. They are probably wrong, but that is not the point, science is wrong on many things, At one time science believe that man could not survive travel at more than 30 miles per hour. At one time science thought that the proton, neutron, and electron were the smallest particles in the universe, they were wrong. Science or at least it was supposed to be science had been used to convince people of every thing from man made global warming to racial and gender inferiority. Science is a belief system, religion is a belief system. they are neither all inclusive or all exclusive. Science, the hard sciences at least at based on the belief that everything is concrete, based in matter and energy. Pseudo science and religion are based on intangibles. Do I believe in god, I answer that I am a "don-car', it means is "do not care". Do I believe in science can explain it all? I do not. If we stick to provable science, we have no fiction, no faster than light travel, no magic, no love, no charity, no hope. Look not to religion for scientific proof. Look not to science for the intrinsic part of life that can not be defined, explained, or otherwise quantified.
wrong. As long as they get a single dollar from the Government or private sources, they should have to patent it to claim exclusive right and pay just like every one else does, no exemptions
then do not rely on the Government to pay for it. Only Government money came with strings. Get off the damn Government dole. The citizen suffer cause idiots like you think the government is the answer and not the cause of most of our problems.
horse crap. the polio vaccine was developed as a profit making venture. "the greater good" is serviced by capitalism having the incentive to make a profit while helping others. I was alive then I know what happened,
Imagine, Researchers not getting their own way, first that mean bunch of Conservative think the people of the US should not have to pay for them trying to play god. Then, Goodness they have to compete for private funds; gasp!!! Then the people that did invest want ownership of the results; the savages. Lest be completely honest about this. Most organizations that do medical research live off of government money, they think they know better then everyone else. They cry and cry when they do not get their own way, then if they do succeed, they want the money from it. Guess what folks, this is still a Free enterprise country. If you patent a process, if you pay to have it developed, you own it, the government should have 0 say in it. Remember, the Saulk group developed the polio Vaccine as a profit making project.
Google does not have spam, Google is spam.
And My coworkers wonder why I think apple as a corporation sucks. They are stupid. I see a large market for black market copies of the driver.