After closing out of any program(especially Adobe products), it would hold onto 4-5gb of memory allocated specifically for that for hours at a time. Only way to free it up was to reboot or go into memory management and free it up. And just in case youre wondering, yes, i was closing it down properly, not just minimizing it and thinking ti was closed like so many people who i have come across that use macs think.
I hate to ask, but are you certain you were quitting the apps (App menu -> Quit / Command-Q)? There's a big difference between minimizing an app's window(s) and quitting it, certainly, but there's also a big difference between closing an app's window(s) and quitting it. Most Mac apps will continue to run happily even after you've closed their last window, very unlike Windows apps (this includes Adobe apps). If the process was still appearing in Activity Monitor (or top in the terminal) as taking up X GB of memory, then you didn't actually quit the app.
Tried Mac in 2013 for 6 months, not an awesome experience. Never freed up large amounts of memory unless i did it manually, adobe products temp files took up 130gb and not intuitive to find and delete, little things like single clicking on a long file name to see the whole file from the desk top or even finder was impossible. That was important to me since my photo file names are usually pretty long(Latename - date - sequence). It didnt work for the way that "I" work so it wasnt an option. Plus, bought the MBP maxed out for 2500, couldnt sell if for more than 1300. Complete waste of money and time for me.
If you didn't like it, you didn't like it, and that's fine... you should certainly work using whatever tools you feel most comfortable with. But your specific points I don't get.
Why are you trying to micromanage memory usage? This isn't the 90's. The OS will free up memory when it is needed. Any memory that is just sitting around "free" is memory wasted. The best way to check if you're running into memory constraints is to check if the OS is using swap at all (Mavericks has a nice memory pressure graph too, though in 2013 you probably did not have Mavericks).
Adobe software sucks, but it should be cleaning up its own temp files except in rare circumstances. I've never had orphaned temp files in the decade+ I've been using Photoshop and Indesign. Still, if they're a problem, you only need to learn where they're stored once.
The easiest way to view long filenames is in list mode. If you're looking through a bunch of files with long filenames, it's stupid to do it in grid mode, where you're obviously constrained by the grid. The desktop itself is grid-mode-only, but the desktop folder can be viewed in a Finder window like any other folder. And if you must - hover your mouse over a truncated filename and the full thing will pop up as a tooltip (if you're navigating through the files with the keyboard, hitting enter or return will show the whole thing).
And your resale value - obviously this varies from place to place but a Mac about a year old should sell for at least 2/3 its original value - $2k or maybe even $2.2k would have been more than reasonable for a 6 month old Mac. 1/2 the original value is more common for a 2+ year old laptop. I have a number of friends who do the sell-and-upgrade cycle every year or two and it works quite well for them (though I personally don't find it worth the trouble). If you live somewhere where the local resale value is low, just use eBay. Based on the price, I assume this was your Mac, and now at >1 year old they're going for $1800.
I have a number of friends who are cellphone salespeople and they're ALWAYS told to push Android phones (and afaik there are no incentives or commissions to push iPhones). iPhones are expensive to carriers, both in what Apple charges the carrier initially and in the long term hit to the network (iPhone users use more data). That's not to say they aren't happy to sell you an iPhone (especially if you're switching from a cheap dumbphone plan), but they are much, much happier to see you switch away from an iPhone to a Samsung or whatever.
No shit, I didn't say Thunderbolt invented docking stations. I said docking stations are very much a "legitimate use" for Thunderbolt - probably the most common. And previous custom docking connectors rarely had the flexibility of Thunderbolt (being a PCI bus you can put damn near any kind of ports you want at the other end, not just what's pre-built into your laptop's custom pin-out), nor a standardized port that allows for many different brands/products to interact.
The first? There are any number of "docking station"-style solutions that are less specialized and therefore legitimately useful to even more people - the primary one being the one integrated into Apple's Thunderbolt display (but there are cheaper solutions from Belkin, Sonnet, Matrox, CalDigit, etc). Get home, plug your laptop in, and with that one connector it instantly has access to your 30" display(s), gigabit ethernet, and your USB 3, Firewire, and other Thunderbolt peripherals (and the speakers, mic, and webcam built into the display, too). For a laptop, Thunderbolt can be remarkably useful. On a desktop less so IMO.
That myth about Apple getting a one-year exclusive deal on Thunderbolt was debunked by Intel the day after it's release, three years ago. On top of that, Thunderbolt could never work as a standard PCI add-on card, because it is lower-level and needs to expose/act as an entire PCI bus itself. Asus makes add-ons for certain of their motherboards that have an additional specific Thunderbolt header, though - and Displayport is optional there, busting yet another one of your claims.
I got to see Jobs give the commencement address at my friend's graduation from Stanford a while back. But I'm pretty sure that by the time this kid is a senior, Jobs won't be there. He's kind of dead already.
I've always hated the move toward "omnibar" seach field/URL field combos for this very reason. Add in dynamic search suggesting and every damn thing many (if not most) of the people on the planet put in that field gets sent to Google. Anything Google does with the URL bar is solely for their own advantage. No thanks.
iPad sales aren't down at all - compare the combined q1 and q2 of last year and this year and they're basically even. The difference is for the 2013 fiscal year, Apple was unable to fulfill the holiday backlog in q1 so more sales fell in q2. This year that backlog didn't happen, so Apple had "record-breaking" sales in q1 and "omg-less-than-last-year!" sales in q2. This is a nonstory to anyone who puts the slightest thought into it.
It's likely that the parents don't even know the kids have a school email account, never mind who hosts the service.
You say that in response to me pointing out my local schools send and authorization form to parents...? I doubt there's a school anywhere that's stupid enough to give kids an email address without parental permission and signing of a waiver. All it takes is one precious snowflake unexpectedly getting porn spam and the school is in hot water. In loco parentis doesn't mean schools can do whatever they want.
Teachers don't want your essays on paper, that would make it impossible (ok, very difficult) for them to use automated grading or at the very least automated plagiarism detection. Everything must be submitted digitally nowadays.
No, but their parents are. The parental authorization for Google Apps for Education comes home with all the rest of the paperwork at the beginning of the school year here.
Literally none of your post addressed the parent post's point. And given that the complex (and still obviously not stringent enough) process of "deeming someone unfit" to live actually costs society more than life improsonment, I don't see your point either.
But that's not how it works. Nuclear regulations in the US require companies to build trust funds over time for the decommissioning of nuclear plants. Nobody is waiting until the last minute. (Though as TFA points out, the estimates of decommissioning costs are turning out to be ~ 1/5 the real cost.)
No, the original iPad has 256 MB of RAM. The iPad 2 has 512, and every other generation so far has had 1 GB. The original iPad is definitely quite pathetic and that's why Apple threw it to the wayside. All the others seem to run great to this day though.
I'm typing this on a 3rd gen iPad right now... Neither iOS 6 nor iOS 7 have caused any trouble, performance-wise. The 3rd gen was already quite powerful compared to the first two (the first iPad, with its tiny amount of RAM, is a dog IMO) and the 4th gen didn't change much at all (one extra GPU core and that's it iirc). The current 5th gen (iPad Air) is better cpu/gpu wise but still has the same amount of RAM as the third gen. What it boils down to is the third gen, capability-wise, isn't really all that far behind the current model. It runs great, as a matter of fact. That's kind of the point of TFA - there's no reason for 3rd or 4th gen users to upgrade to the current model, because the difference is negligible (unless you're *really* concerned about weight).
Also worth noting is that Apple now allows users on older OSes to download older versions of apps, so they're not locked out anymore.
As for the two MacBook Pros (I assume you meant one is running Mountain Lion, because no 2013 machine will run Lion), is your colleague accessing files over a network (seems likely)? Mavericks now defaults to SMB2 where possible instead of AFP, and in my personal experience I've found it to be a good deal slower - I make sure to connect to my NAS via AFP. Perhaps that could be the root of your colleague's issues ("slow" is vague so this is mostly a shot in the dark).
A powerful rebuttal, full of information to answer my question. I assume you're posting from 10.9 now, and one of the regressions is lack of support for the shift key. Can't imagine how terrible it must be to work in such an environment!
(Shame on me for expecting an intelligent answer from a troll.)
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After closing out of any program(especially Adobe products), it would hold onto 4-5gb of memory allocated specifically for that for hours at a time. Only way to free it up was to reboot or go into memory management and free it up. And just in case youre wondering, yes, i was closing it down properly, not just minimizing it and thinking ti was closed like so many people who i have come across that use macs think.
I hate to ask, but are you certain you were quitting the apps (App menu -> Quit / Command-Q)? There's a big difference between minimizing an app's window(s) and quitting it, certainly, but there's also a big difference between closing an app's window(s) and quitting it. Most Mac apps will continue to run happily even after you've closed their last window, very unlike Windows apps (this includes Adobe apps). If the process was still appearing in Activity Monitor (or top in the terminal) as taking up X GB of memory, then you didn't actually quit the app.
Tried Mac in 2013 for 6 months, not an awesome experience. Never freed up large amounts of memory unless i did it manually, adobe products temp files took up 130gb and not intuitive to find and delete, little things like single clicking on a long file name to see the whole file from the desk top or even finder was impossible. That was important to me since my photo file names are usually pretty long(Latename - date - sequence). It didnt work for the way that "I" work so it wasnt an option. Plus, bought the MBP maxed out for 2500, couldnt sell if for more than 1300. Complete waste of money and time for me.
If you didn't like it, you didn't like it, and that's fine... you should certainly work using whatever tools you feel most comfortable with. But your specific points I don't get.
Why are you trying to micromanage memory usage? This isn't the 90's. The OS will free up memory when it is needed. Any memory that is just sitting around "free" is memory wasted. The best way to check if you're running into memory constraints is to check if the OS is using swap at all (Mavericks has a nice memory pressure graph too, though in 2013 you probably did not have Mavericks).
Adobe software sucks, but it should be cleaning up its own temp files except in rare circumstances. I've never had orphaned temp files in the decade+ I've been using Photoshop and Indesign. Still, if they're a problem, you only need to learn where they're stored once.
The easiest way to view long filenames is in list mode. If you're looking through a bunch of files with long filenames, it's stupid to do it in grid mode, where you're obviously constrained by the grid. The desktop itself is grid-mode-only, but the desktop folder can be viewed in a Finder window like any other folder. And if you must - hover your mouse over a truncated filename and the full thing will pop up as a tooltip (if you're navigating through the files with the keyboard, hitting enter or return will show the whole thing).
And your resale value - obviously this varies from place to place but a Mac about a year old should sell for at least 2/3 its original value - $2k or maybe even $2.2k would have been more than reasonable for a 6 month old Mac. 1/2 the original value is more common for a 2+ year old laptop. I have a number of friends who do the sell-and-upgrade cycle every year or two and it works quite well for them (though I personally don't find it worth the trouble). If you live somewhere where the local resale value is low, just use eBay. Based on the price, I assume this was your Mac, and now at >1 year old they're going for $1800.
It has, and AFAIK it defaults to enabled (mine is on, and I've never messed with it).
Slashdot search does kind of suck, but in fairness the dupe is actually the #3 result when you search for "iMessage".
I have a number of friends who are cellphone salespeople and they're ALWAYS told to push Android phones (and afaik there are no incentives or commissions to push iPhones). iPhones are expensive to carriers, both in what Apple charges the carrier initially and in the long term hit to the network (iPhone users use more data). That's not to say they aren't happy to sell you an iPhone (especially if you're switching from a cheap dumbphone plan), but they are much, much happier to see you switch away from an iPhone to a Samsung or whatever.
1.3 men for every woman. Of course, the women see through this - the extra 0.3 he's claiming is typical male exaggeration.
No shit, I didn't say Thunderbolt invented docking stations. I said docking stations are very much a "legitimate use" for Thunderbolt - probably the most common. And previous custom docking connectors rarely had the flexibility of Thunderbolt (being a PCI bus you can put damn near any kind of ports you want at the other end, not just what's pre-built into your laptop's custom pin-out), nor a standardized port that allows for many different brands/products to interact.
The first? There are any number of "docking station"-style solutions that are less specialized and therefore legitimately useful to even more people - the primary one being the one integrated into Apple's Thunderbolt display (but there are cheaper solutions from Belkin, Sonnet, Matrox, CalDigit, etc). Get home, plug your laptop in, and with that one connector it instantly has access to your 30" display(s), gigabit ethernet, and your USB 3, Firewire, and other Thunderbolt peripherals (and the speakers, mic, and webcam built into the display, too). For a laptop, Thunderbolt can be remarkably useful. On a desktop less so IMO.
That myth about Apple getting a one-year exclusive deal on Thunderbolt was debunked by Intel the day after it's release, three years ago. On top of that, Thunderbolt could never work as a standard PCI add-on card, because it is lower-level and needs to expose/act as an entire PCI bus itself. Asus makes add-ons for certain of their motherboards that have an additional specific Thunderbolt header, though - and Displayport is optional there, busting yet another one of your claims.
I got to see Jobs give the commencement address at my friend's graduation from Stanford a while back. But I'm pretty sure that by the time this kid is a senior, Jobs won't be there. He's kind of dead already.
I've always hated the move toward "omnibar" seach field/URL field combos for this very reason. Add in dynamic search suggesting and every damn thing many (if not most) of the people on the planet put in that field gets sent to Google. Anything Google does with the URL bar is solely for their own advantage. No thanks.
Show me the pipeline/canal that can deliver water from northern California to southern.
Uh, the California Aqueduct was created in the 60's to do exactly that. (Map for the visually inclined.)
The plant is, in fact, a reverse osmosis plant.
The plant is a reverse osmosis plant.
iPad sales aren't down at all - compare the combined q1 and q2 of last year and this year and they're basically even. The difference is for the 2013 fiscal year, Apple was unable to fulfill the holiday backlog in q1 so more sales fell in q2. This year that backlog didn't happen, so Apple had "record-breaking" sales in q1 and "omg-less-than-last-year!" sales in q2. This is a nonstory to anyone who puts the slightest thought into it.
It's likely that the parents don't even know the kids have a school email account, never mind who hosts the service.
You say that in response to me pointing out my local schools send and authorization form to parents...? I doubt there's a school anywhere that's stupid enough to give kids an email address without parental permission and signing of a waiver. All it takes is one precious snowflake unexpectedly getting porn spam and the school is in hot water. In loco parentis doesn't mean schools can do whatever they want.
Teachers don't want your essays on paper, that would make it impossible (ok, very difficult) for them to use automated grading or at the very least automated plagiarism detection. Everything must be submitted digitally nowadays.
No, but their parents are. The parental authorization for Google Apps for Education comes home with all the rest of the paperwork at the beginning of the school year here.
Literally none of your post addressed the parent post's point. And given that the complex (and still obviously not stringent enough) process of "deeming someone unfit" to live actually costs society more than life improsonment, I don't see your point either.
The state, in removing that man from existence, isn't preying on some randomly chosen innocent stranger
You say this as if it was true 100% of the time. Sadly it is not.
But that's not how it works. Nuclear regulations in the US require companies to build trust funds over time for the decommissioning of nuclear plants. Nobody is waiting until the last minute. (Though as TFA points out, the estimates of decommissioning costs are turning out to be ~ 1/5 the real cost.)
No, the original iPad has 256 MB of RAM. The iPad 2 has 512, and every other generation so far has had 1 GB. The original iPad is definitely quite pathetic and that's why Apple threw it to the wayside. All the others seem to run great to this day though.
I'm typing this on a 3rd gen iPad right now... Neither iOS 6 nor iOS 7 have caused any trouble, performance-wise. The 3rd gen was already quite powerful compared to the first two (the first iPad, with its tiny amount of RAM, is a dog IMO) and the 4th gen didn't change much at all (one extra GPU core and that's it iirc). The current 5th gen (iPad Air) is better cpu/gpu wise but still has the same amount of RAM as the third gen. What it boils down to is the third gen, capability-wise, isn't really all that far behind the current model. It runs great, as a matter of fact. That's kind of the point of TFA - there's no reason for 3rd or 4th gen users to upgrade to the current model, because the difference is negligible (unless you're *really* concerned about weight).
Also worth noting is that Apple now allows users on older OSes to download older versions of apps, so they're not locked out anymore.
Not a huge fan of the iOS 7 look though.
As for the two MacBook Pros (I assume you meant one is running Mountain Lion, because no 2013 machine will run Lion), is your colleague accessing files over a network (seems likely)? Mavericks now defaults to SMB2 where possible instead of AFP, and in my personal experience I've found it to be a good deal slower - I make sure to connect to my NAS via AFP. Perhaps that could be the root of your colleague's issues ("slow" is vague so this is mostly a shot in the dark).
A powerful rebuttal, full of information to answer my question. I assume you're posting from 10.9 now, and one of the regressions is lack of support for the shift key. Can't imagine how terrible it must be to work in such an environment!
(Shame on me for expecting an intelligent answer from a troll.)