It appears MS picked those browsers that are least usable (or outdated), and that might explain why SeaMonkey and Netscape 9 were not included even though they are probably the 6th and 7th most popular browsers in EU.
No they are not. Quoting from your OWN link (that you apparently didn't read):
"The Choice Screen will be populated with the 12 most widely-used web browsers
that run on Windows 7 according to a ranking based on usage share in the EEA as
measured semi-annually (see the methodology set out in paragraph 14)."
(Page 32 of the PDF)
Microsoft had NO choice about which browsers they included and SeaMonkey and Netscape 9 weren't included because they don't have a large enough market share.
I'm not sure that Advocadus meant to imply that he was the one who was confused, but the person he was helping was confused (and hence needed help). Or possibly not. But that's how I read it at first.
"The agreement hammered out between Microsoft and the EC simply stipulated the “12 most widely-used web browsers that run on Windows 7” based on usage share in the European Economic Area"
There are salt receptors in the taste buds, that why you can taste salt. They are not entirely specific for Na and will detect other salts to varying degrees.
They are not receptors for everything. That is clearly ridiculous.
How will the one unit per hex effect worker units? I could imagine it getting very frustrating when you can't move your armies out of your cities because of the gaggle of worker units building stuff around it. Personally, I'd like to see them do away with workers altogether. I've been playing CtP 2 recently (thanks GOG.com) and I'm really liking the lack of busy work moving workers around. I also like the fact that I can create trade routes without having to painstakingly move caravan units around.
I playing CtP 2 right now (got it from GOG.com). It lacks the personality of the Civ series, but it does have some good features that I'd like to see in Civ, like the removal of worker units. It always annoyed me towards the end of the game in Civ that you'd have dozens of worker units with nothing to do.
We do most "tasting" with our olfactory system, not our tongues.
The tongue has specific receptors on the tongue, collected together in taste buds, that detect sweet, salty, sour, bitter and umami (and, maybe, fat). That is the sensation that is, scientifically, correctly called taste.
It's complicated because what most people call taste, isn't purely taste. A large part (most even) of what most people call taste, is actually smell and then there are other trigeminal sensations such as texture, temperature, etc.
The whole sensory gestalt of popping something into your mouth is hugely complex and not completely understood.
So I've only read the abstract of the paper and they really don't claim that fat is "tasted", just that some people are able to detect it and they link that ability to BMI. Whether they are really tasting or just detecting some other physicochemical effect is still unclear. There are a lot of different senses involved when you put something in your mouth. There is a lot of evidence that suggests that fat is a taste, but so far nobody has presented a receptor for it.
How old is your car that it has an oil pressure gauge and an ampmeter? Why don't modern cars have these? Because car design has advanced to a point where you really don't need to worry about it, they don't need constant monitoring by the driver. Just as a well designed piece of computer software shouldn't have you worrying about the processor utilization or any of the low level hardware details.
Stop making excuses for badly designed software and a badly designed OS.
The AC I was originally responding to specifically referred to users as stupid. That is arrogant and there is no defense.
As for incompetent, not being able to find the task manager only makes you incompetent if your job involves knowing where the task manager is. If you're a network admin, IT support, or programmer and you can't find the task manager in Windows, then you are incompetent (unless you never use Windows, of course). If you write documents in Word, produce PowerPoint presentation, make spreadsheets in Excel, you should not need to know where the task manager is and you are not incompetent if you don't know. If that person NEEDS to know where the task manager is then it's a failure of the software and the OS they are using. All those details should be abstracted away so they don't need to know it.
Don't blame the user for the failures in the software or the OS they are using. If you can't write a Word document without worrying about processor utilization, something is very wrong.
No it isn't. You know how to do it, I know how to do it, 95% of users (a completely made up statistic) don't. That doesn't make them stupid and it's the height of arrogance to say they are. The concept of processor utilization isn't obvious to people who aren't techies.
The failure is with the complexity of the software, not the user. If you software ever requires a user to understand or monitor processor usage, you are doing it wrong (except in very limited cases of tools for techies).
But this isn't a car. And I wouldn't say determining fuel utilization (mpg) is a requirement for driving a car. All you need to know is how much is left in the tank.
Put another way, by convention, my neighbors don't use binoculars to peer into my house windows to see what I'm doing although there's currently not really anything stopping them from doing so.
Rubbish. If you only have one OS in your organization, why would you need people who can use more than one? If it's required that your IT staff has to be expert in, say, Windows and Linux, then you've cut the pool of cheap labor you can recruit from. If they can, then great, but it isn't required and they're not being paid for it.
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Fair enough. I was going to say something along the same lines but fear of Muprhy's law prevented it.
- The remaining 7 are apparently random.
It appears MS picked those browsers that are least usable (or outdated), and that might explain why SeaMonkey and Netscape 9 were not included even though they are probably the 6th and 7th most popular browsers in EU.
No they are not. Quoting from your OWN link (that you apparently didn't read):
"The Choice Screen will be populated with the 12 most widely-used web browsers that run on Windows 7 according to a ranking based on usage share in the EEA as measured semi-annually (see the methodology set out in paragraph 14)."
(Page 32 of the PDF)
Microsoft had NO choice about which browsers they included and SeaMonkey and Netscape 9 weren't included because they don't have a large enough market share.
I'm not sure that Advocadus meant to imply that he was the one who was confused, but the person he was helping was confused (and hence needed help). Or possibly not. But that's how I read it at first.
From TFA:
"The agreement hammered out between Microsoft and the EC simply stipulated the “12 most widely-used web browsers that run on Windows 7” based on usage share in the European Economic Area"
There are salt receptors in the taste buds, that why you can taste salt. They are not entirely specific for Na and will detect other salts to varying degrees.
They are not receptors for everything. That is clearly ridiculous.
How will the one unit per hex effect worker units? I could imagine it getting very frustrating when you can't move your armies out of your cities because of the gaggle of worker units building stuff around it. Personally, I'd like to see them do away with workers altogether. I've been playing CtP 2 recently (thanks GOG.com) and I'm really liking the lack of busy work moving workers around. I also like the fact that I can create trade routes without having to painstakingly move caravan units around.
I playing CtP 2 right now (got it from GOG.com). It lacks the personality of the Civ series, but it does have some good features that I'd like to see in Civ, like the removal of worker units. It always annoyed me towards the end of the game in Civ that you'd have dozens of worker units with nothing to do.
We do most "tasting" with our olfactory system, not our tongues.
The tongue has specific receptors on the tongue, collected together in taste buds, that detect sweet, salty, sour, bitter and umami (and, maybe, fat). That is the sensation that is, scientifically, correctly called taste.
It's complicated because what most people call taste, isn't purely taste. A large part (most even) of what most people call taste, is actually smell and then there are other trigeminal sensations such as texture, temperature, etc.
The whole sensory gestalt of popping something into your mouth is hugely complex and not completely understood.
No, the savory taste is called umami. It's caused by detecting glutamates (like MSG). This is something different.
So I've only read the abstract of the paper and they really don't claim that fat is "tasted", just that some people are able to detect it and they link that ability to BMI. Whether they are really tasting or just detecting some other physicochemical effect is still unclear. There are a lot of different senses involved when you put something in your mouth. There is a lot of evidence that suggests that fat is a taste, but so far nobody has presented a receptor for it.
Proof that near death experiences have a very profound effect on people.
Rubbish. That's confirmation bias. I bet there are lots of people who had near death experiences that just shrugged it off and didn't change a thing.
James Bond like movie in space setting
You mean Moonraker?
Exactly!
How old is your car that it has an oil pressure gauge and an ampmeter? Why don't modern cars have these? Because car design has advanced to a point where you really don't need to worry about it, they don't need constant monitoring by the driver. Just as a well designed piece of computer software shouldn't have you worrying about the processor utilization or any of the low level hardware details.
Stop making excuses for badly designed software and a badly designed OS.
The AC I was originally responding to specifically referred to users as stupid. That is arrogant and there is no defense.
As for incompetent, not being able to find the task manager only makes you incompetent if your job involves knowing where the task manager is. If you're a network admin, IT support, or programmer and you can't find the task manager in Windows, then you are incompetent (unless you never use Windows, of course). If you write documents in Word, produce PowerPoint presentation, make spreadsheets in Excel, you should not need to know where the task manager is and you are not incompetent if you don't know. If that person NEEDS to know where the task manager is then it's a failure of the software and the OS they are using. All those details should be abstracted away so they don't need to know it.
Don't blame the user for the failures in the software or the OS they are using. If you can't write a Word document without worrying about processor utilization, something is very wrong.
No it isn't. You know how to do it, I know how to do it, 95% of users (a completely made up statistic) don't. That doesn't make them stupid and it's the height of arrogance to say they are. The concept of processor utilization isn't obvious to people who aren't techies.
The failure is with the complexity of the software, not the user. If you software ever requires a user to understand or monitor processor usage, you are doing it wrong (except in very limited cases of tools for techies).
But this isn't a car. And I wouldn't say determining fuel utilization (mpg) is a requirement for driving a car. All you need to know is how much is left in the tank.
And since when has pulling up the task manager been basic competency? It isn't.
Since when has determining your processor utilization been considered basic competency? Get off you high horse.
Put another way, by convention, my neighbors don't use binoculars to peer into my house windows to see what I'm doing although there's currently not really anything stopping them from doing so.
Curtains?
Rubbish. If you only have one OS in your organization, why would you need people who can use more than one? If it's required that your IT staff has to be expert in, say, Windows and Linux, then you've cut the pool of cheap labor you can recruit from. If they can, then great, but it isn't required and they're not being paid for it.
It doesn't really matter if it's 10, 1,000,000 or 2. It's additional cost to have staff trained in all possible combinations.
Dude! You just blew my mind!
Turns out it was a shopping list. First item on the list? Eggs.
Sarcasm detector on the fritz?