I know different system yada-yada. But I care here only about the *effective*
result. And that appears to be punishment for Manning.
That's a perfect example of the kind of attitude towards the rule of law that causes our country great harm when taken up by people in power. "Fuck the law as long as I get *effective* results" is not how this country is meant to work. Manning willingly submitted himself to a different legal system when he joined up. No servicemen accused of his crimes would be allowed to roam free and does anyone here honestly think it would be a good idea to let him roam around in the midst of a bunch of TRAINED KILLERS that he just BETRAYED? I mean really? You might as well put a member of the Crips in a holding cell with a whole bunch of Bloods, tell them your leaving for the night, you'll see them in the morning and turn off the lights on your way out. That's all the government needs, let him get shanked by another angry inmate in the brig and then have half the world claim they should have seen this coming and the other half accuse them of setting it up.
I'm not sure why you listed the US already having bases, strike forces, and nukes literally inside your borders as a disadvantage for the US should the EU want to start shit. How many EU bases are there on US soil for the EU to launch strikes from? You guys still haven't caught on to the fact every time someone in Europe wants to throw down we have the party at your place, and it most certainly is not a disadvantage.
That being said, how the fuck did we get from tweeting to world war 3 again?
Anyone who is a serious enough PC gamer to look down on consoles should be experienced enough to know that the "aim-assist" console gamers get and an "aim-bot" are two incredibly different animals. Like the difference between getting barked at by a poodle and getting subjugated by Penny Arcade's Dickwolves.
Look, I don't like Sony or the PS3 but even I can see it'd pretty contradictory to claim the PS3 is a "poorly defended system" while at the same time calling the keys the "long sought-after holy grail". Either they were easy and poorly defended, or all the Nazi's that made you look for it got their heads all sorts of chopped off or turned into crumbly skeletons by the myriad of defenses. Pick one and stick with it.
why again dont we dissolve company's that screw up this badly, wouldn't the hole in the market help the economy as alot of people try to fill it, or does capitalism not work?
Capitalism in fact does "not work" (help the economy) by definition when you practice the exact opposite of capitalism as you suggest (forcefully dissolving a company by government mandate). But then that's kind of like putting your laundry in your oven and complaining that it doesn't work right at all, it just burns things!
Yea, he also uses the word "the" a lot. I'm pretty sure I've heard those Teabaggers using that word too, lets totes blame them.
Seriously, you've just pre-decided who to blame and are looking for evidence to fit into your conclusion instead of a conclusion to draw from the available evidence. You could just as easily leap to the conclusion that he was a far left progressive and point to his statement about refusing to believe in God, his great concern over literacy rates, and his love of the communist manifesto in an equally "strong" but intellectually dishonest attempt to back it up.
guns make killing easier period. It's the first killing weapon where you don't have to be within physical contact of your victim to kill them, and it's accurate
Wow, I sure am glad your ass wasn't responsible for clawing our species out of the stone age. You'd still be trying to give that woolly mammoth a beat down with a blunt stick. Sharpen the end and throw it motherfucker!
There's a difference between talking about why it was done (Jared Loughner was a mentally disturbed communist manifesto loving, flag burning, anti-government nut convinced of "mind and grammar control") and making shit up about why it was done (blaming the Tea Party and Republicans with ZERO evidence or rationality) in order to further your own political goals rather then deal with the tragedy or it's causes in any meaningful way. Tell me, when you tell a group of people that another group of people who they fight with all the time are responsible for killing their leaders does that not usually incite violence?
Societies are still judged by how they treat their least fortunate, and in that way, we fail. Epically.
Ignoring the rest of your post and the politics therein and taking only this claim at issue I'd like to say that while I in no way think enough is being done by neighbors for neighbors ("neighbor" not to be taken literally) in our society I think you would find it far from an "epic fail" should you experience the work being done for the homeless and less fortunate here at home and then travel abroad to less fortunate countries and societies. It will give you a whole new outlook on what poor is. Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't be doing more, the exact opposite of that, but neither do I think it's fair to go into self-loathing of our society either and dismiss all the efforts put forth to help the unfortunate as "epic fails".
I should hope the police will continue to destroy any robots that mysteriously appear and attach themselves to load bearing supports of bridges and the like. It's not a violation of our rights, Cylons aren't covered under "we the people" and we must remain vigilant;)
I was pointing out that he clearly wasn't a Tea Party member as the dude I was replying to claimed. He has an entire video where he burns a flag. Pretty sure the tea party ain't to fond of flag burning and God denying.
Or on the other hand, the extreme that blames an entire group of people for the actions of a derranged man that has absolfuckinglutely NOTHING to do with anything that group of people?
The shooter was Jared Loughner and if you watch his Youtube channel you'll see his simply a mentally disturbed individual who ascribes to nothing even remotely resembling Republican or Tea party beliefs. He has an entire video where he burns an American flag for God's sake, and another were he venomously declares he refuses to believe in God and that the Government is trying to mind control everyone with "grammar control". I haven't been to any Tea Party meetings but I have the feeling Flag burning and denying the existence of God prolly aint listed on their usually scheduled agenda.
But don't let the facts get in the way of taking a tragedy and trying to use it to to further your own political preconceptions because clearly THAT is more important to you than the suffering the lives lost today.
Want to revisit you're own statement now that he's been identified as Jared Loughner, a clearly disturbed individual who rambles on about mind control via grammar control and refusing to believe in God or accept the federal government? Found one of his youtube videos here:
It's sort of electrician and electrical engineer. Both deal with wires and electricity but only one of them is likely to ever be responsible for the end to end design and life-cycle of a system and is writing white papers advancing the state of the art.
After all, corporations can do no wrong! We must therefore protect and defend them by minimizing, excusing, and downplaying any wrong that they do because after all it wasn't really wrong anyway.
You message insinuates that the actions of producing a computer chip with some technology is clearly and inexcusably morally wrong. I don't understand this claim and I think it needs more elaboration then false dichotomy quips along the lines of "If you don't think it's wrong then clearly you think corporations can't do ANY wrong!"
As far as I can tell their creating a product that will convince other companies to provide extra content that would be accessible by their product. They bear no moral or legal responsibility to make sure that content is also made available equally to all other platforms. This isn't elementary school where if you bring in a birthday invite you have to bring one for everyone. If the other kids/companies want a invite from the cool kids in Hollywood maybe they should find a way to stop their guests from stuffing their pockets full of silverware when they get invited over too.
On the other hand, it's exactly about the politicians and their rich buddies cracking the Constitution and figuring out ways to rob the economy of its wealth, which was created during the most free times in US history - 19 century
Are you kidding me? The most free times in US history was when African Americans were sold as SLAVES, woman couldn't vote, Federal Troops waged war against half the states, and railroad companies basically enforced their own will and justice on citizens out west? THAT 19th century?
USA was able to keep that up for a century, back in 19th, so why did that stop? Because the gov't found a way to crack around the Constitution and destroy foundation of the US principles.
I'm entirely confused how you equate no longer seizing private property for factories and bridges or letting corporations dump hazardous waste into water used by private citizens down streams with the government find "a way to crack around the Constitution and destroy foundation of the US principles". If anything it stopped precisely because the people found a way to enforce the constitution and individual liberties described therein as the Western areas became more civilized.
The same economic arguments were used against freeing slaves but the predictions didn't come true.
What's amazing is you probably honestly believed you came down on the non racist side of that equation when in actuality you just said "Well if African American's can survive on their own without being worse for the wear than surely dairy cows can!"
Out of curiosity what are you referring to when you say n-axis input? A mouse has only 2 axis still (unless you count scroll wheel as a third), it's just more precise right?
I know different system yada-yada. But I care here only about the *effective* result. And that appears to be punishment for Manning.
That's a perfect example of the kind of attitude towards the rule of law that causes our country great harm when taken up by people in power. "Fuck the law as long as I get *effective* results" is not how this country is meant to work. Manning willingly submitted himself to a different legal system when he joined up. No servicemen accused of his crimes would be allowed to roam free and does anyone here honestly think it would be a good idea to let him roam around in the midst of a bunch of TRAINED KILLERS that he just BETRAYED? I mean really? You might as well put a member of the Crips in a holding cell with a whole bunch of Bloods, tell them your leaving for the night, you'll see them in the morning and turn off the lights on your way out. That's all the government needs, let him get shanked by another angry inmate in the brig and then have half the world claim they should have seen this coming and the other half accuse them of setting it up.
I'm not sure why you listed the US already having bases, strike forces, and nukes literally inside your borders as a disadvantage for the US should the EU want to start shit. How many EU bases are there on US soil for the EU to launch strikes from? You guys still haven't caught on to the fact every time someone in Europe wants to throw down we have the party at your place, and it most certainly is not a disadvantage.
That being said, how the fuck did we get from tweeting to world war 3 again?
Anyone who is a serious enough PC gamer to look down on consoles should be experienced enough to know that the "aim-assist" console gamers get and an "aim-bot" are two incredibly different animals. Like the difference between getting barked at by a poodle and getting subjugated by Penny Arcade's Dickwolves.
Look, I don't like Sony or the PS3 but even I can see it'd pretty contradictory to claim the PS3 is a "poorly defended system" while at the same time calling the keys the "long sought-after holy grail". Either they were easy and poorly defended, or all the Nazi's that made you look for it got their heads all sorts of chopped off or turned into crumbly skeletons by the myriad of defenses. Pick one and stick with it.
Equating "looking into him" with execution IS FUD.
why again dont we dissolve company's that screw up this badly, wouldn't the hole in the market help the economy as alot of people try to fill it, or does capitalism not work?
Capitalism in fact does "not work" (help the economy) by definition when you practice the exact opposite of capitalism as you suggest (forcefully dissolving a company by government mandate). But then that's kind of like putting your laundry in your oven and complaining that it doesn't work right at all, it just burns things!
Yea, he also uses the word "the" a lot. I'm pretty sure I've heard those Teabaggers using that word too, lets totes blame them.
Seriously, you've just pre-decided who to blame and are looking for evidence to fit into your conclusion instead of a conclusion to draw from the available evidence. You could just as easily leap to the conclusion that he was a far left progressive and point to his statement about refusing to believe in God, his great concern over literacy rates, and his love of the communist manifesto in an equally "strong" but intellectually dishonest attempt to back it up.
guns make killing easier period. It's the first killing weapon where you don't have to be within physical contact of your victim to kill them, and it's accurate
Wow, I sure am glad your ass wasn't responsible for clawing our species out of the stone age. You'd still be trying to give that woolly mammoth a beat down with a blunt stick. Sharpen the end and throw it motherfucker!
There's a difference between talking about why it was done (Jared Loughner was a mentally disturbed communist manifesto loving, flag burning, anti-government nut convinced of "mind and grammar control") and making shit up about why it was done (blaming the Tea Party and Republicans with ZERO evidence or rationality) in order to further your own political goals rather then deal with the tragedy or it's causes in any meaningful way. Tell me, when you tell a group of people that another group of people who they fight with all the time are responsible for killing their leaders does that not usually incite violence?
Societies are still judged by how they treat their least fortunate, and in that way, we fail. Epically.
Ignoring the rest of your post and the politics therein and taking only this claim at issue I'd like to say that while I in no way think enough is being done by neighbors for neighbors ("neighbor" not to be taken literally) in our society I think you would find it far from an "epic fail" should you experience the work being done for the homeless and less fortunate here at home and then travel abroad to less fortunate countries and societies. It will give you a whole new outlook on what poor is. Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't be doing more, the exact opposite of that, but neither do I think it's fair to go into self-loathing of our society either and dismiss all the efforts put forth to help the unfortunate as "epic fails".
I should hope the police will continue to destroy any robots that mysteriously appear and attach themselves to load bearing supports of bridges and the like. It's not a violation of our rights, Cylons aren't covered under "we the people" and we must remain vigilant ;)
I was pointing out that he clearly wasn't a Tea Party member as the dude I was replying to claimed. He has an entire video where he burns a flag. Pretty sure the tea party ain't to fond of flag burning and God denying.
Or on the other hand, the extreme that blames an entire group of people for the actions of a derranged man that has absolfuckinglutely NOTHING to do with anything that group of people?
The shooter was Jared Loughner and if you watch his Youtube channel you'll see his simply a mentally disturbed individual who ascribes to nothing even remotely resembling Republican or Tea party beliefs. He has an entire video where he burns an American flag for God's sake, and another were he venomously declares he refuses to believe in God and that the Government is trying to mind control everyone with "grammar control". I haven't been to any Tea Party meetings but I have the feeling Flag burning and denying the existence of God prolly aint listed on their usually scheduled agenda.
But don't let the facts get in the way of taking a tragedy and trying to use it to to further your own political preconceptions because clearly THAT is more important to you than the suffering the lives lost today.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
ohioboy Welcome to fascism in America (aka Tea Party, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, etc. ad nauseum).
cbus79 Dems need a target list: Beck, Boehner, Hannity, Limbaugh to start.
sandpeople Teabaggers just made their biggest mistake yet, they will pay dearly for this...Palin is finished.
Guest119 Is the Judo-Christian thing "an eye for an eye"? And if so, when does someone put a cap in Palin?
It's sort of electrician and electrical engineer. Both deal with wires and electricity but only one of them is likely to ever be responsible for the end to end design and life-cycle of a system and is writing white papers advancing the state of the art.
Just like everyone does to the police choppers?
How much of the third world would place Facebook ahead of not being raped...
But with Facebook's default privacy settings you don't even have to choose, you can have it all! ;)
After all, corporations can do no wrong! We must therefore protect and defend them by minimizing, excusing, and downplaying any wrong that they do because after all it wasn't really wrong anyway.
You message insinuates that the actions of producing a computer chip with some technology is clearly and inexcusably morally wrong. I don't understand this claim and I think it needs more elaboration then false dichotomy quips along the lines of "If you don't think it's wrong then clearly you think corporations can't do ANY wrong!"
As far as I can tell their creating a product that will convince other companies to provide extra content that would be accessible by their product. They bear no moral or legal responsibility to make sure that content is also made available equally to all other platforms. This isn't elementary school where if you bring in a birthday invite you have to bring one for everyone. If the other kids/companies want a invite from the cool kids in Hollywood maybe they should find a way to stop their guests from stuffing their pockets full of silverware when they get invited over too.
On the other hand, it's exactly about the politicians and their rich buddies cracking the Constitution and figuring out ways to rob the economy of its wealth, which was created during the most free times in US history - 19 century
Are you kidding me? The most free times in US history was when African Americans were sold as SLAVES, woman couldn't vote, Federal Troops waged war against half the states, and railroad companies basically enforced their own will and justice on citizens out west? THAT 19th century?
USA was able to keep that up for a century, back in 19th, so why did that stop? Because the gov't found a way to crack around the Constitution and destroy foundation of the US principles.
I'm entirely confused how you equate no longer seizing private property for factories and bridges or letting corporations dump hazardous waste into water used by private citizens down streams with the government find "a way to crack around the Constitution and destroy foundation of the US principles". If anything it stopped precisely because the people found a way to enforce the constitution and individual liberties described therein as the Western areas became more civilized.
Ok, either you are a very successful troll,
And then starting your argument with:
Look, there is NO GOD
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I can only respond by saying that clearly we ALL know vi is the BEST text editor.
The same economic arguments were used against freeing slaves but the predictions didn't come true.
What's amazing is you probably honestly believed you came down on the non racist side of that equation when in actuality you just said "Well if African American's can survive on their own without being worse for the wear than surely dairy cows can!"
Out of curiosity what are you referring to when you say n-axis input? A mouse has only 2 axis still (unless you count scroll wheel as a third), it's just more precise right?
Right. 'Cause Obama instituted all of that, not the DHS - which was created by...[Bush] It must be great to have such a short memory.
By that logic I suppose we should still be holding George Washington accountable for present day actions taken by the US Army then?