I don't know where you went to school but my HS had a computer engineering/networking classes where we got to take apart and fix computers and components, learn the basics and even try to get A+ certified as an optional extra if we were interested. "Teaching the test" is a mantra all to often repeated by lazy teachers that don't want to risk teaching he subject as they see fit and people who have been out of the education system for so long they don't know whats going on in there anymore. The teachers I had in HS didn't give a crap what the test was on or what conditions applied during it, they were going to have us know the subject so well it wouldn't matter. I still remember being surprised as hell when I found out 5 minutes before the AP Calc test from a student in a different school that One: You could solve integrals easily using a graphing calculator and Two: You could use a graphing calculator on the test. We hadn't been allowed a calculator in class the entire year, cause she didn't give a crap about the test, she wanted us to know calculus. Best teacher I ever had. She also had a class size of 50.
So I've watched the live feed on cnn for the last couple minutes cause after reading here I figured the spewing of nonsense would be entertaining. So far I've seen a black woman preaching about DR. King's vision, a replay of Dr. King's speech, A relative of Dr. King talking about unity and building each other up rather than tearing people down, the power of love to change the world, and some black choir singing, and some reading of scripture and more talk about transcending race and that we're one human family. I had to check several times to make sure I was watching the Glen Beck Lincoln Memorial feed and not the Al Sharpton one, but there's the Lincoln memorial right in the background and Glen Beck introducing the speakers. I guess I'm confused why this event is getting billed as so nefarious, racist, and dangerous here on Slashdot.
I feel bad for those not from around here so forgive me for explaining it. East-West streets in DC are labeled with a single letter of the alphabet and North-South streets are labeled with numbers which makes it 'easy' to navigate around. The letter J was omitted though in order to avoid confusion between the letters J and I, so there is no J Street (except for GWU's food court!)
Not only that, he specifically called out his own position as having too many and himself as unproductive. I think any of us would get fired if we went to our boss and said: "We have WAY too many software engineers, I can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting one! And I should know, I've got nothing but time to swing dead cats around the office because I haven't been productive in TWO full months! And let me tell you, their no fucking good once you hit a software engineer with one cause the tail breaks right off. You see? I mean look at this fucking thing, what am I supposed to do with a dead cat without it's fucking TAIL?! HOW am I supposed to SWING this thing now, HUH?! Tell me that BOSS man!?!?!"
I'm not sure claiming you've done absolutely nothing productive for two months is a good idea if you don't want to get fired. Nor is insulting powerpoint. If you think insulting your Commander in Chief in front of the press while in uniform is a bad idea because of HIS sway over the military you surely don't want to even CONSIDER %$#@$ing with powerpoint. Have fun watching 500 slide Army technical presentations with 40 pages of text per slide for the rest of your tour in Leavenworth.
To be fair to the dimensional explosion point Explosively Formed Penetrators have become fairly common as they can be set up next to the road and penetrate even the thick side armor of the Humvees. Cars are moving only in one dimension really (along the road) so it's they'd be much easier to hit with these than a flying vehicle. That in no way saves this from being a terrible idea on all counts though.
The point of a Humvee is that it's cheaper/easier/safer to drive than fly. If they can "take off" to avoid a road-side bomb then that implies they know where it is so they could also, you know....stop? Or turn around? I'm sure insurgents would love it if not only does the convoy stop when they encounter a roadside bomb, but instead of getting out and clearing the area/shooting insurgents they instead start spinning up giant rotors of death in close proximity to each other and then slowly become airborne targets to which even small arms fire can now cause catastrophic failure.
I actually deleted the word illicit in front of content while editing my post because it was getting too wordy. I figured it was assumed that since the article is about illicit content and you started the conversation only speaking of illicit content that I needn't continue to add that modifier everywhere I used the word.
To be honest, I'm unaware of any group with beliefs that would prohibit downloading content from TPB.
Maybe you're confusing a belief with a religion?
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true. (Wikipedia)
You cannot possibly be claiming to be unaware of any set of people that holds the premise "Downloading illicit content is wrong" to be true can you?
accurate enough for even conversation scratched into the stall of a public restroom.
Ah yes, the petty insults. I'll take that as a white flag and will let you have the last word...
Hey, you set the bar pretty low with "for slashdot comments" I really had to dig down. If I was trying to be insulting I would have gone with Youtube/CNN comments =P
You don't genuinely know what my beliefs are, do you? What's your source?
Given:
Anyone aware of TPB has downloaded Content from it (from your post)
You Are discussing TPB (your posts)
There exists a set of people whose 'beliefs' keep them from downloading content from TPB (from first hand knowledge)
You are aware about TPB: Because of 2
You have downloaded from TPB: Using Rule 1 and the above
You do not hold the same exact beliefs as the set described in 3: The beliefs of this group by definition prohibits downloading content from TPB.
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I have indeed used it. I used it just the other week to get Adywan's cut of Star Wars (which was excellent, by the way.) I do, however, know that my use of it is rare enough that the observation I made above is valid enough for conversation on slashdot.
I don't understand how you using it rarely makes claiming that "anyone who knows it exists uses it" accurate enough for even conversation scratched into the stall of a public restroom.
I'm not sure I follow your logic, TPB is pretty well known and talked about in news stories and the like. You don't have to download illegal content to know about it. This is an especially ludicrous claim if someone works in the tech industry and thus stays up on tech news. I would be genuinely surprised if there was a software developer out there who had not heard of them, but I would not be surprised if there are software developers who would not partake based on their personal principles. I know some that would refuse to install a copy of Ms Office on two of their own home machines because you're supposed to get a new version for each. They certainly aren't going to download cracked programs off a torrent. That doesn't mean they are just blissfully unaware that TPB exists, they just don't have the same beliefs as you.
The issue causing the confusion here is the guy copied the only contradictory part of her statement, here it is in full from the article:
Student Sarah Gilbert, 15, told the newspaper she was horrified by the assignment.
"I was shocked and quite offended," she said. "I'm offended that it's Australia but I'm disgusted because it doesn't matter where it is, it's still not something you ask someone to do or think about.... There is a difference between being a terrorist and learning about terrorism."
Gilbert _ whose mother lost a relative in the Bali bombings _ wrote a letter to her teacher refusing to do the assignment.
"Even though it may seem petty, to me my beliefs are more important than an "A" stating I am smart," Gilbert wrote. A copy of her letter was published by the newspaper.
She's clearly very against the assignment, though it is completely unclear why she said that last sentence as it was taken out of any context by the reporter with the ellipses. I don't understand why the reporter would do this as it seems completely contradictory to her other statements so a little context like "but when asked if it was the same she did admit" or something like that would really help with the reader's ability to comprehend.
you're either: a) not paying a lick of attention, b) dishonest, or c) a Republican.
Reading comprehension fail #2. You're assuming that I meant that A, B and C were disjoint.
You are correct sir, I did in fact assume you had enough reading/writing comprehension to know that the terms "either...or" unequivocally implies disjoint non-overlapping options. This might have been an overestimate of you on my behalf but since believing in my own personal responsibility would apparently make me a republican I'll choose to blame you instead;)
Well I guess we'll have to mark me down for option A as I missed the memo that no matter the question at hand, how big or small, if someone suggests anyone should be personally responsible for doing any part of their job correctly than they're a republican shill.
Did you even read the post you're responding to or did you just go into an anti-free market anti-republican frothing tizzy at the very mention of the words "personal responsibility"?
And, when did double checking to make sure things are correct when a life is on the line and "personal responsibility" become intrinsic values that clearly identify the Republican party anyways? I must have missed that memo. There's nothing political or market related in the entire post you're responding to, all he said is color tubing would be a good idea but it's ultimately the nurses responsibility and it's very easy to double check a tube.
If the FDA mandated special-shaped connectors for each category of tubing that ALL hospitals across the USA then had to buy from Industry how would that NOT make industry happy? Are you sure it's Industry that they want happy or is it hospitals with limited budgets that would have to replace all their equipment and thus move funds away from other patient care areas?
That's generally a bad idea for anyone in a sensitive position. You certainly wouldn't want nuclear power plants for example to take that tack. A better proposition would be: "Look, Terry, this isn't working so we're going to have to ask you turn hand over the passwords and go home. If your willing to be available over the phone or come in for some 2 hour meetings to help with the transition we'll extend your pay for another month while you look for a new job." But he shouldn't be allowed near the equipment anymore, especially if he was already having attitude problems.
All you have to do is read the comment section in the Washington Post [...] to find dozens of comments that no unpaid partisan would bother posting.
If that's true who is paying for all the equally intelligent you-tube comments that have nothing to do with politics? And I suppose the KKK is behind the funding for what must be massive astro-turfing in the form of high-pitched pre-pubescent kids in Halo/CoD game lobbies? Cause there's no way those kids are doing that just because they're....stupid kids. You have to consider the average intelligence of your fellow human beings and then realize HALF of them are dumber than that. Comments sections are there to get people riled up and angry which keeps them on the site reading.
Yea, it's almost as if spending is somehow ultimately controlled by some sort of body of elected representatives separate from the president. This warrants further study.
In all seriousness though, the subset of people we're talking about is far more likely to be in favor of defense spending then other forms of governmental spending. I didn't claim fiscal policy to be the be all end all just a contributing factor. I know we like things to be black and white here on Slashdot: It's either only the economy or only moral values; if you're not a republican you're a democrat, ect. but the real world doesn't work that way. Things are complex with many contributing factors.
While the moral basis undoubtedly contributes I wouldn't underestimate the impact of fiscal policy. There's a reason why Republicans lose when they start spending money irresponsibly and a reason why they get a swing in their direction when they start campaigning about reigning in spending and try to paint the other party as big government. Blue collar middle class people understand working with limited resources so controlling spending rings true to them.
In addition, because they don't have a lot they tend to be more conservative minded as in, they don't want to take big risks. Big risks sound good when you can afford the loss for a chance at huge gains, or when you've got nothing to lose, but when you're doing OK but a fuck up means you lose everything you want things to be stable and keep slowly grinding away to move up.
No, you only report capital gains. So unless you you're selling that book/couch/garage sale item/knick-knack on ebay for more than you bought it for it needn't be reported. This is also why you don't have to report selling a personal used car - there usually aren't any gains.
It depends on the situation. Cell tower accuracy is good enough for general and emergency navigation. I've been "lost" in the woods before (micro-burst leveled this section of trail we were going to hike in Adirondacks and we tried to cut through looking to pick it back up. All you really need at that point is what general direction you're headed, and what general landmarks are around you that you can find. We only hand a standard map and decided if he started hiking east we ought to hit a lake or river and could then follow that back to where we needed to go. My point is you're not looking for turn by turn navigation on a city street type of accuracy when you're hiking.
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I don't know where you went to school but my HS had a computer engineering/networking classes where we got to take apart and fix computers and components, learn the basics and even try to get A+ certified as an optional extra if we were interested. "Teaching the test" is a mantra all to often repeated by lazy teachers that don't want to risk teaching he subject as they see fit and people who have been out of the education system for so long they don't know whats going on in there anymore. The teachers I had in HS didn't give a crap what the test was on or what conditions applied during it, they were going to have us know the subject so well it wouldn't matter. I still remember being surprised as hell when I found out 5 minutes before the AP Calc test from a student in a different school that One: You could solve integrals easily using a graphing calculator and Two: You could use a graphing calculator on the test. We hadn't been allowed a calculator in class the entire year, cause she didn't give a crap about the test, she wanted us to know calculus. Best teacher I ever had. She also had a class size of 50.
So I've watched the live feed on cnn for the last couple minutes cause after reading here I figured the spewing of nonsense would be entertaining. So far I've seen a black woman preaching about DR. King's vision, a replay of Dr. King's speech, A relative of Dr. King talking about unity and building each other up rather than tearing people down, the power of love to change the world, and some black choir singing, and some reading of scripture and more talk about transcending race and that we're one human family. I had to check several times to make sure I was watching the Glen Beck Lincoln Memorial feed and not the Al Sharpton one, but there's the Lincoln memorial right in the background and Glen Beck introducing the speakers. I guess I'm confused why this event is getting billed as so nefarious, racist, and dangerous here on Slashdot.
LOL, I love it.
I feel bad for those not from around here so forgive me for explaining it. East-West streets in DC are labeled with a single letter of the alphabet and North-South streets are labeled with numbers which makes it 'easy' to navigate around. The letter J was omitted though in order to avoid confusion between the letters J and I, so there is no J Street (except for GWU's food court!)
Ah yes, C is good for domain-specific solutions but it doesn't adequately address the issue of multiple inheritance out of the box. (reference)
Not only that, he specifically called out his own position as having too many and himself as unproductive. I think any of us would get fired if we went to our boss and said: "We have WAY too many software engineers, I can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting one! And I should know, I've got nothing but time to swing dead cats around the office because I haven't been productive in TWO full months! And let me tell you, their no fucking good once you hit a software engineer with one cause the tail breaks right off. You see? I mean look at this fucking thing, what am I supposed to do with a dead cat without it's fucking TAIL?! HOW am I supposed to SWING this thing now, HUH?! Tell me that BOSS man!?!?!"
I'm not sure claiming you've done absolutely nothing productive for two months is a good idea if you don't want to get fired. Nor is insulting powerpoint. If you think insulting your Commander in Chief in front of the press while in uniform is a bad idea because of HIS sway over the military you surely don't want to even CONSIDER %$#@$ing with powerpoint. Have fun watching 500 slide Army technical presentations with 40 pages of text per slide for the rest of your tour in Leavenworth.
To be fair to the dimensional explosion point Explosively Formed Penetrators have become fairly common as they can be set up next to the road and penetrate even the thick side armor of the Humvees. Cars are moving only in one dimension really (along the road) so it's they'd be much easier to hit with these than a flying vehicle. That in no way saves this from being a terrible idea on all counts though.
The point of a Humvee is that it's cheaper/easier/safer to drive than fly. If they can "take off" to avoid a road-side bomb then that implies they know where it is so they could also, you know....stop? Or turn around? I'm sure insurgents would love it if not only does the convoy stop when they encounter a roadside bomb, but instead of getting out and clearing the area/shooting insurgents they instead start spinning up giant rotors of death in close proximity to each other and then slowly become airborne targets to which even small arms fire can now cause catastrophic failure.
I actually deleted the word illicit in front of content while editing my post because it was getting too wordy. I figured it was assumed that since the article is about illicit content and you started the conversation only speaking of illicit content that I needn't continue to add that modifier everywhere I used the word.
To be honest, I'm unaware of any group with beliefs that would prohibit downloading content from TPB.
Maybe you're confusing a belief with a religion?
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true. (Wikipedia)
You cannot possibly be claiming to be unaware of any set of people that holds the premise "Downloading illicit content is wrong" to be true can you?
accurate enough for even conversation scratched into the stall of a public restroom.
Ah yes, the petty insults. I'll take that as a white flag and will let you have the last word...
Hey, you set the bar pretty low with "for slashdot comments" I really had to dig down. If I was trying to be insulting I would have gone with Youtube/CNN comments =P
You don't genuinely know what my beliefs are, do you? What's your source?
Given:
You are aware about TPB: Because of 2
You have downloaded from TPB: Using Rule 1 and the above
You do not hold the same exact beliefs as the set described in 3: The beliefs of this group by definition prohibits downloading content from TPB.
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I have indeed used it. I used it just the other week to get Adywan's cut of Star Wars (which was excellent, by the way.) I do, however, know that my use of it is rare enough that the observation I made above is valid enough for conversation on slashdot.
I don't understand how you using it rarely makes claiming that "anyone who knows it exists uses it" accurate enough for even conversation scratched into the stall of a public restroom.
I'm not sure I follow your logic, TPB is pretty well known and talked about in news stories and the like. You don't have to download illegal content to know about it. This is an especially ludicrous claim if someone works in the tech industry and thus stays up on tech news. I would be genuinely surprised if there was a software developer out there who had not heard of them, but I would not be surprised if there are software developers who would not partake based on their personal principles. I know some that would refuse to install a copy of Ms Office on two of their own home machines because you're supposed to get a new version for each. They certainly aren't going to download cracked programs off a torrent. That doesn't mean they are just blissfully unaware that TPB exists, they just don't have the same beliefs as you.
Student Sarah Gilbert, 15, told the newspaper she was horrified by the assignment.
"I was shocked and quite offended," she said. "I'm offended that it's Australia but I'm disgusted because it doesn't matter where it is, it's still not something you ask someone to do or think about. ... There is a difference between being a terrorist and learning about terrorism."
Gilbert _ whose mother lost a relative in the Bali bombings _ wrote a letter to her teacher refusing to do the assignment.
"Even though it may seem petty, to me my beliefs are more important than an "A" stating I am smart," Gilbert wrote. A copy of her letter was published by the newspaper.
She's clearly very against the assignment, though it is completely unclear why she said that last sentence as it was taken out of any context by the reporter with the ellipses. I don't understand why the reporter would do this as it seems completely contradictory to her other statements so a little context like "but when asked if it was the same she did admit" or something like that would really help with the reader's ability to comprehend.
you're either: a) not paying a lick of attention, b) dishonest, or c) a Republican.
Reading comprehension fail #2. You're assuming that I meant that A, B and C were disjoint.
You are correct sir, I did in fact assume you had enough reading/writing comprehension to know that the terms "either...or" unequivocally implies disjoint non-overlapping options. This might have been an overestimate of you on my behalf but since believing in my own personal responsibility would apparently make me a republican I'll choose to blame you instead ;)
Well I guess we'll have to mark me down for option A as I missed the memo that no matter the question at hand, how big or small, if someone suggests anyone should be personally responsible for doing any part of their job correctly than they're a republican shill.
Did you even read the post you're responding to or did you just go into an anti-free market anti-republican frothing tizzy at the very mention of the words "personal responsibility"?
And, when did double checking to make sure things are correct when a life is on the line and "personal responsibility" become intrinsic values that clearly identify the Republican party anyways? I must have missed that memo. There's nothing political or market related in the entire post you're responding to, all he said is color tubing would be a good idea but it's ultimately the nurses responsibility and it's very easy to double check a tube.
If the FDA mandated special-shaped connectors for each category of tubing that ALL hospitals across the USA then had to buy from Industry how would that NOT make industry happy? Are you sure it's Industry that they want happy or is it hospitals with limited budgets that would have to replace all their equipment and thus move funds away from other patient care areas?
That's generally a bad idea for anyone in a sensitive position. You certainly wouldn't want nuclear power plants for example to take that tack. A better proposition would be: "Look, Terry, this isn't working so we're going to have to ask you turn hand over the passwords and go home. If your willing to be available over the phone or come in for some 2 hour meetings to help with the transition we'll extend your pay for another month while you look for a new job." But he shouldn't be allowed near the equipment anymore, especially if he was already having attitude problems.
All you have to do is read the comment section in the Washington Post [...] to find dozens of comments that no unpaid partisan would bother posting.
If that's true who is paying for all the equally intelligent you-tube comments that have nothing to do with politics? And I suppose the KKK is behind the funding for what must be massive astro-turfing in the form of high-pitched pre-pubescent kids in Halo/CoD game lobbies? Cause there's no way those kids are doing that just because they're....stupid kids. You have to consider the average intelligence of your fellow human beings and then realize HALF of them are dumber than that. Comments sections are there to get people riled up and angry which keeps them on the site reading.
Yea, it's almost as if spending is somehow ultimately controlled by some sort of body of elected representatives separate from the president. This warrants further study.
In all seriousness though, the subset of people we're talking about is far more likely to be in favor of defense spending then other forms of governmental spending. I didn't claim fiscal policy to be the be all end all just a contributing factor. I know we like things to be black and white here on Slashdot: It's either only the economy or only moral values; if you're not a republican you're a democrat, ect. but the real world doesn't work that way. Things are complex with many contributing factors.
The real world hardly ever returns type boolean
There's a reason why Republicans lose when they start spending money irresponsibly
conservative minded != Republican party
While the moral basis undoubtedly contributes I wouldn't underestimate the impact of fiscal policy. There's a reason why Republicans lose when they start spending money irresponsibly and a reason why they get a swing in their direction when they start campaigning about reigning in spending and try to paint the other party as big government. Blue collar middle class people understand working with limited resources so controlling spending rings true to them.
In addition, because they don't have a lot they tend to be more conservative minded as in, they don't want to take big risks. Big risks sound good when you can afford the loss for a chance at huge gains, or when you've got nothing to lose, but when you're doing OK but a fuck up means you lose everything you want things to be stable and keep slowly grinding away to move up.
No, you only report capital gains. So unless you you're selling that book/couch/garage sale item/knick-knack on ebay for more than you bought it for it needn't be reported. This is also why you don't have to report selling a personal used car - there usually aren't any gains.
They come right after everyone starts commuting to work in jetpacks while playing duke nukem forever.
If we dropped you off on a planet that had no food, water or breathable air you'd probably grasp the difference rather readily.
It depends on the situation. Cell tower accuracy is good enough for general and emergency navigation. I've been "lost" in the woods before (micro-burst leveled this section of trail we were going to hike in Adirondacks and we tried to cut through looking to pick it back up. All you really need at that point is what general direction you're headed, and what general landmarks are around you that you can find. We only hand a standard map and decided if he started hiking east we ought to hit a lake or river and could then follow that back to where we needed to go. My point is you're not looking for turn by turn navigation on a city street type of accuracy when you're hiking.