.....Wow. You totally have me there. Yup. Wait, no actually you don't.
Maybe if you stopped painting other people with your own hostility, you'd be able to look at things a little more objectively.
But please, continue to accuse me of being a mindless fanboi (grrl?), just because I refuse to pander to your nonsensical strawman arguments and black/white worldview.
Oh hang on, let me put my android phone and windows computer into my closet. Wouldn't want them to get in the way of a good anti-apple rant, now would we?
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Rather than having to actively fight such a thing, which you will undoubtedly burn out from in time, why not get them to stop pushing it? There was an article on slashdot a couple weeks ago about how lousy a prospect OEL is. Maybe find that and give it to the PHBs?
And you've completely missed the point of my entire argument. I never said Linux was easy. How easy Linux is to use isn't even the issue. Furthermore, there IS no "Linux". There is a linux kernel, and there are different distributions based on that.
You argued that Ubuntu was crap, with the implication that it was crap because it didn't match what you learned for Redhat. That is no different than saying OSX is bad because you learned Windows, and OSX is nothing like windows. Or vise versa. They are all different operating systems.
If your experience is so poor that you are only just learning how to even *start*, then the correct response in this discussion is to not say anything. You should be listening/reading and learning from others that DO know.
What you did was to pretend that you knew more than you did, and give incorrect advise as a result. THAT was my point.
And YOU should pay more attention to what the ACTUAL issue is, instead of lining up your own strawmen arguments.
It's one thing to copy from another. That's how all human progress has occurred. That is not the problem.
It's a different thing entirely to duplicate someone else's product so exactly that people will accidentally buy the copy, when they intended to buy the original. THAT is what Samsung did, and they are now trying very hard to hide that evidence.
To pick on just one of your large number of bad examples, if you cover up the 'coke' part of a can of coke, and the 'pepsi' part of a can of pepsi, you're saying people wouldn't be able to tell the can of coke and pepsi apart? The colours and style of each are so different that you would have to be blind to be unable to tell the two apart.
Meanwhile, there is ONLY one iPad design. Samsung could have done any number of things to clearly differentiate their product from the iPads. But they didn't. They intentionally made their tablets as similar as possible without actually duplicating it right down to the speaker grill. That would be like Coke releasing a new product packaging as Pepsi, but changed one of the swirls so that it curved 10 degrees more. Yes, it's technically different. But you would have to try very hard to convince someone that it wasn't a blatant attempt at copying.
Bear in mind though... the judge said Samsung is "not cool enough" to be like an iPad. A fantastic example of a backhanded compliment if I ever heard one. I'm convinced that the judge was just sick of the whole damn thing. IMO neither Samsung nor Apple won that case.
LOL! Reminds of when everyone jumped on the "translucent plastic" bandwagon. I recall seeing microwaves, and even irons, in blueberry iMac colours. I was amused.
The best though, was when I was flipping through a department store catalogue (in the late 90s) and came across a wooden breadcutting board that was advertised as "Y2K compliant." To this day I regret not having cut out that item and saved it somewhere.
Not close at all. Both HP and Dell have such a large variety of different designs across their lineup, that you'd be hard pressed to look at two products from the *same* manufacturer and be able to tell that they are.
As the summary and article state plainly, Samsung made what amounts to a copy of the iPad. If you have difficulty telling the products apart after covering up the brand logos, then they are too similar. It's that simple. From there, it's not a large leap for the original manufacturer to claim the subsequent manufacturer was riding on the firsts success. Hell, didn't that exactly happen in court a few months ago? Samsung's lawyer was asked to tell the court which tablet was which, and he couldn't.
And when that original manufacturer happens to be Apple... well... That's like pissing off someone high on bath salts and PCP, and then crying foul because they start beating the crap out of you and eating your face.
There are SO many ways that Samsung could have differentiated their products, but they chose to make it as similar to the iPad as they thought they could get away with. Other manufacturers havn't had any difficulty doing so. There are tablets in various colours, with textured non-slip backs, varying kinds of frontal designs. There were an almost limitless number of ways Samsung could have avoided this right from there start. But they chose not to. And now they're paying the price.
1. Learn how to detect sarcasm. 2. Don't act as if you suddenly know everything there is to know about linux just cause you went on one lousy redhat course. The fact that you are afraid to touch a command line tells me (and pretty much everyone else on slashdot) that you don't actually know what you're doing and can't handle doing your job without being spoonfed. The fact that you are dissing something as evil and horrible just because it doesn't match up with what you've been taught, is downright pathetic.
A decent sysadmin would recognize that both command line and gui have value, depending on what needs to be done. As point of fact, command line on linux is infinitely more powerful than GUI could ever be. While I have no personal experience with Windows Powershell, from what I've read, it is similarly powerful.
I want to confirm this as well. While your intentions are noble, it just won't happen. Period. Having tried this myself several times, every single attempt resulted in failure. If they themselves arn't interested in changing, then it ain't going to happen.
As an alternative, I would suggest using Linux openly in their their presence, and let them take an interest. Work from there.
So we've abandoned any discussion on the merits of the new OS version and jumped right into the "My OS is better than yours OS!" right from the first post. Now that's what I call efficient. Saves me having to read and ponder and cultivate that shining ray of hope that there may be some genuinely useful discussion, only to have that hope dashed a screen or two down.
I didn't realize that case verdicts could go back in time and change things after the fact.
My Nexus ONE is on 2.3.7, and it doesn't have anything resembling decent device-wide search. As far as I'm concerned this court ruling hasn't changed anything because I haven't had this feature in the first place.
Furthermore, Apple cannot block google from implementing industry standards such as caldav and carddav, yet google hasn't implemented those. Yet Apple and Microsoft have. That's the other point I was trying to make that you clearly missed.
And what's this "Your evil overlord" stuff? As if I am somehow responsible for what Apple does? Really?
Does it have local search without using a specific google app?
I have a nexus one right now, and I can't search a damn thing with it. It drives me downright nuts. I've run into so many frustrating usability issues with android that I've decided I'm going to have to move away from it on my next purchase. It's really sad when the evil proprietary overlords support industry standards (eg: caldav) better than an open OS.
I'm not sure I consider it a loss for Apple. I took it to be more of the judge telling both Samsung and Apple to knock it off because they were both getting ridiculous.
Samsung: Your products suck too much to be considered infringing. Apple: There, happy now? They're not infringing.
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.....Wow. You totally have me there. Yup. Wait, no actually you don't.
Maybe if you stopped painting other people with your own hostility, you'd be able to look at things a little more objectively.
But please, continue to accuse me of being a mindless fanboi (grrl?), just because I refuse to pander to your nonsensical strawman arguments and black/white worldview.
Oh hang on, let me put my android phone and windows computer into my closet. Wouldn't want them to get in the way of a good anti-apple rant, now would we?
I just wanted to mention that I've had the privilege of watching a fascinating modding battle that revolved around my post. For those that keep insisting that everyone on Slashdot has the same collective attitude about things, I think this is some excellent evidence to the contrary:
Why are people obsessing with rounded corners?, posted to Google Warned Samsung Galaxy Tab Was "Too Similar", has been moderated Insightful (+1).
It is currently scored Normal (2).
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Link please? Searching for qix brings up a video game, which I don't think is what you meant.
Rather than having to actively fight such a thing, which you will undoubtedly burn out from in time, why not get them to stop pushing it? There was an article on slashdot a couple weeks ago about how lousy a prospect OEL is. Maybe find that and give it to the PHBs?
Oh come on now... You don't have to mince words. Tell us how you really feel. ;)
And you've completely missed the point of my entire argument. I never said Linux was easy. How easy Linux is to use isn't even the issue. Furthermore, there IS no "Linux". There is a linux kernel, and there are different distributions based on that.
You argued that Ubuntu was crap, with the implication that it was crap because it didn't match what you learned for Redhat. That is no different than saying OSX is bad because you learned Windows, and OSX is nothing like windows. Or vise versa. They are all different operating systems.
If your experience is so poor that you are only just learning how to even *start*, then the correct response in this discussion is to not say anything. You should be listening/reading and learning from others that DO know.
What you did was to pretend that you knew more than you did, and give incorrect advise as a result. THAT was my point.
And YOU should pay more attention to what the ACTUAL issue is, instead of lining up your own strawmen arguments.
It's one thing to copy from another. That's how all human progress has occurred. That is not the problem.
It's a different thing entirely to duplicate someone else's product so exactly that people will accidentally buy the copy, when they intended to buy the original. THAT is what Samsung did, and they are now trying very hard to hide that evidence.
To pick on just one of your large number of bad examples, if you cover up the 'coke' part of a can of coke, and the 'pepsi' part of a can of pepsi, you're saying people wouldn't be able to tell the can of coke and pepsi apart? The colours and style of each are so different that you would have to be blind to be unable to tell the two apart.
Meanwhile, there is ONLY one iPad design. Samsung could have done any number of things to clearly differentiate their product from the iPads. But they didn't. They intentionally made their tablets as similar as possible without actually duplicating it right down to the speaker grill. That would be like Coke releasing a new product packaging as Pepsi, but changed one of the swirls so that it curved 10 degrees more. Yes, it's technically different. But you would have to try very hard to convince someone that it wasn't a blatant attempt at copying.
Well, it would probably be a good idea to offload anything in your dropbox to a safe location, AND change your password.
There are plenty of options, but Dropbox is the most ubiquitous one.
Bear in mind though... the judge said Samsung is "not cool enough" to be like an iPad. A fantastic example of a backhanded compliment if I ever heard one. I'm convinced that the judge was just sick of the whole damn thing. IMO neither Samsung nor Apple won that case.
LOL! Reminds of when everyone jumped on the "translucent plastic" bandwagon. I recall seeing microwaves, and even irons, in blueberry iMac colours. I was amused.
The best though, was when I was flipping through a department store catalogue (in the late 90s) and came across a wooden breadcutting board that was advertised as "Y2K compliant." To this day I regret not having cut out that item and saved it somewhere.
I installed dropbox onto my cell phone, and now every time I take a photo with my cell, it gets automatically uploaded.
I can't think of a better way to handle such abuses.
Not close at all. Both HP and Dell have such a large variety of different designs across their lineup, that you'd be hard pressed to look at two products from the *same* manufacturer and be able to tell that they are.
It's not just rounded corners.
As the summary and article state plainly, Samsung made what amounts to a copy of the iPad. If you have difficulty telling the products apart after covering up the brand logos, then they are too similar. It's that simple. From there, it's not a large leap for the original manufacturer to claim the subsequent manufacturer was riding on the firsts success. Hell, didn't that exactly happen in court a few months ago? Samsung's lawyer was asked to tell the court which tablet was which, and he couldn't.
And when that original manufacturer happens to be Apple... well... That's like pissing off someone high on bath salts and PCP, and then crying foul because they start beating the crap out of you and eating your face.
There are SO many ways that Samsung could have differentiated their products, but they chose to make it as similar to the iPad as they thought they could get away with. Other manufacturers havn't had any difficulty doing so. There are tablets in various colours, with textured non-slip backs, varying kinds of frontal designs. There were an almost limitless number of ways Samsung could have avoided this right from there start. But they chose not to. And now they're paying the price.
1. Learn how to detect sarcasm.
2. Don't act as if you suddenly know everything there is to know about linux just cause you went on one lousy redhat course. The fact that you are afraid to touch a command line tells me (and pretty much everyone else on slashdot) that you don't actually know what you're doing and can't handle doing your job without being spoonfed. The fact that you are dissing something as evil and horrible just because it doesn't match up with what you've been taught, is downright pathetic.
A decent sysadmin would recognize that both command line and gui have value, depending on what needs to be done. As point of fact, command line on linux is infinitely more powerful than GUI could ever be. While I have no personal experience with Windows Powershell, from what I've read, it is similarly powerful.
I want to confirm this as well. While your intentions are noble, it just won't happen. Period. Having tried this myself several times, every single attempt resulted in failure. If they themselves arn't interested in changing, then it ain't going to happen.
As an alternative, I would suggest using Linux openly in their their presence, and let them take an interest. Work from there.
What if your cell phone has a data-only plan and you rely on VOIP for your calls? :3
Thanks for the suggestion. Seems interesting, but it doesn't search email either.
I think I have no choice but to give up entirely on the default apps provided in android and use 3rd party ones.
So we've abandoned any discussion on the merits of the new OS version and jumped right into the "My OS is better than yours OS!" right from the first post. Now that's what I call efficient. Saves me having to read and ponder and cultivate that shining ray of hope that there may be some genuinely useful discussion, only to have that hope dashed a screen or two down.
Yay for progress!
I didn't realize that case verdicts could go back in time and change things after the fact.
My Nexus ONE is on 2.3.7, and it doesn't have anything resembling decent device-wide search. As far as I'm concerned this court ruling hasn't changed anything because I haven't had this feature in the first place.
Furthermore, Apple cannot block google from implementing industry standards such as caldav and carddav, yet google hasn't implemented those. Yet Apple and Microsoft have. That's the other point I was trying to make that you clearly missed.
And what's this "Your evil overlord" stuff? As if I am somehow responsible for what Apple does? Really?
Does it have local search without using a specific google app?
I have a nexus one right now, and I can't search a damn thing with it. It drives me downright nuts. I've run into so many frustrating usability issues with android that I've decided I'm going to have to move away from it on my next purchase. It's really sad when the evil proprietary overlords support industry standards (eg: caldav) better than an open OS.
You don't need his geek card. It was hacked in 5^H 2 minutes using a raspberry pi!
Who cares what father says. Maria is going to kill him a few episodes later, anyway.
No kidding! If the drivers have drivers, then thats an extra layer of protection.
I'm not sure I consider it a loss for Apple. I took it to be more of the judge telling both Samsung and Apple to knock it off because they were both getting ridiculous.
Samsung: Your products suck too much to be considered infringing.
Apple: There, happy now? They're not infringing.