effectively influence people into buying something
For those marketers who effectively influence consumers, job well done I say. I wish I could afford more of them.
People who believe they are being manipulated into buying something by advertisers (not talking about outright criminal acts here, like bait-n-switch or false advertising, etc - the criminality of which depends on your country/jurisdiction) need to actively think about their actions and choices as opposed to being led about by their collective nose-ring.
Cynical, I know. But, hey, shit happens. Get on with it.
I see 19 year old "professionals" with a "programming" certificate purchased off the web. They're everywhere, fucking things up, creating work for the real professionals.
Gotta love them.
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Exfuckingactly. Whilst the buzz-word slavering IT managers and their Java sycophant underlings hype around in Brownian motion fiddling feverishly with websites, the rest of the professional world maintains the foundation and glue that really makes all the shit "just work."
With the possible exception of Python, nothing else comes close in satisfying it's intended purpose (talking toolkit/scripting/etc). Perl bashing reminds me of kids with snot-shiny upper lips whining about the "complexity" or "shortcomings" of C while not hearing the whooshing sound as the mothership-sized point sails over their heads.
Same with COBOL. Just because you don't encounter it in your little Javascript/PHP career does not mean it's not out their pumping major iron. You'd be amazed how many COBOL professionals there are laughing at the ignorance of these arrogant little dickheads talking out their anuses.
All programming/scripting languages have their place. They were all designed (some less so) to solve a specific problem.
This whole saga reminds me of one of the reasons I hate Windows so much - every iteration would reveal a radically different UI. No nice gradual increments so you knew where things were after upgrading.
Ubuntu now seems to be doing to same thing.
Quite unfortunate - I won't be upgrading until the dust has settled and there are more choices (might go back to KDE).
All of those things are often considered to be better than a for-profit corporation.
Considered by whom? Often when? Better how? Creating employment where? Paying taxes? Building infrastructure? Advancing technology, civilization, society, humanity, etc?
Go live in North Korea if you're so hungry for social enlightenment. What's a bet you're a parasite living on the dole in the UK? Too lazy to work, but not too lazy to opine about things you know little about, or to spend tax money drinking at the pub.
No problemo - I must confess that I use ubuntu on all my desktops. I've learnt to live with it's warts. I just with they'd sort the basic stuff, you know?
I love Linux. I almost love Ubuntu's _attempt_ at making it all GUIfied and usable. However, I no longer apologise about the problems. I've been, and will continue, recommending windows* to family and friends.
Mark Shuttleworth has a wonderful opportunity to make something as slick as Apple's desktop. So far, I'm afraid, he has failed (sorry Mark, one fellow countryman to another).
Sigh, you're about right. I'm a long-time UNIX and Linux user. Servers mostly. Have you noticed how almost every application in GNOME uses different hotkeys for common things? (eg, changing tabs, copy/pasting, etc). It's a joke really. Mention these issues and the Ubuntu apologists come oozing out the woodwork.
Ubuntu is now changing to a new UI before sorting things with the existing UI? That's MS style, fuck that shit.
At least the heart of Linux is still good. The kernel and GNU.
That was an excellent visual description of the expanding sphere of radiation. I'll remember that one to explain to folks here why something as massive as a star or galaxy is only seen as a point of light when viewed without magnification (which is really collecting as many of those photons as possible).
I must say I'm still a bit skeptical about the 10~15 year target. For orbiting Mars, sure, but to actually land on Mars?
I think everyone is. However, there's also the possibility that we've been so conditioned by NASA's big-budget bureaucratic way of doing things that we can't but be skeptical when an entrepreneur says, "hey, why the fuck not?"
The company gets to save millions of euros in the long run. For them it's worthwhile.
Employees get to learn something new (not much actually, their environment is probably web based, so their main work/interface/workflow won't change at all). For them it's a good thing.
Remember, these employees don't have to fool around with installing/maintaining software, setting up printers or anything of that sort. All they do is switch on the machine, login, open the app/browser, work, click print, maybe use openoffice with company templates, etc. In other words simple shit which does not require extensive knowledge of how the OS works.
This is going to happen more and more as executives realize that the windows upgrade/ballmer-pound-you-in-the-ass cycle offers very little ROI. Most of them are still sipping the MS kool-aid, but this is changing.
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effectively influence people into buying something
For those marketers who effectively influence consumers, job well done I say. I wish I could afford more of them.
People who believe they are being manipulated into buying something by advertisers (not talking about outright criminal acts here, like bait-n-switch or false advertising, etc - the criminality of which depends on your country/jurisdiction) need to actively think about their actions and choices as opposed to being led about by their collective nose-ring.
Cynical, I know. But, hey, shit happens. Get on with it.
Bureaucratic incompetence and corruption is patently protected.
This is so true - it makes me laugh even more at the monkeys who are clamouring for centos 6.0.
I see 19 year old "professionals" with a "programming" certificate purchased off the web. They're everywhere, fucking things up, creating work for the real professionals.
Gotta love them.
Exfuckingactly. Whilst the buzz-word slavering IT managers and their Java sycophant underlings hype around in Brownian motion fiddling feverishly with websites, the rest of the professional world maintains the foundation and glue that really makes all the shit "just work."
With the possible exception of Python, nothing else comes close in satisfying it's intended purpose (talking toolkit/scripting/etc). Perl bashing reminds me of kids with snot-shiny upper lips whining about the "complexity" or "shortcomings" of C while not hearing the whooshing sound as the mothership-sized point sails over their heads.
Same with COBOL. Just because you don't encounter it in your little Javascript/PHP career does not mean it's not out their pumping major iron. You'd be amazed how many COBOL professionals there are laughing at the ignorance of these arrogant little dickheads talking out their anuses.
All programming/scripting languages have their place. They were all designed (some less so) to solve a specific problem.
much better than
Written with such authority, JS must be much better then...
ooooooo, DMZ. You must be an IT manager.
+1
I've tried XFCE before and it just seemed too basic and lacked polish. Pass.
This whole saga reminds me of one of the reasons I hate Windows so much - every iteration would reveal a radically different UI. No nice gradual increments so you knew where things were after upgrading.
Ubuntu now seems to be doing to same thing.
Quite unfortunate - I won't be upgrading until the dust has settled and there are more choices (might go back to KDE).
Contrary to the usual mantras, business is very often a personal thing.
All of those things are often considered to be better than a for-profit corporation.
Considered by whom? Often when? Better how? Creating employment where? Paying taxes? Building infrastructure? Advancing technology, civilization, society, humanity, etc?
Go live in North Korea if you're so hungry for social enlightenment. What's a bet you're a parasite living on the dole in the UK? Too lazy to work, but not too lazy to opine about things you know little about, or to spend tax money drinking at the pub.
Please.
lol.
You must be living in another dimension. In the meantime, here in the real world, entrepreneurs have to deal in realities, not "social" fairy tales.
Christ, you're probably 12 years old and never far from facebook, right?
With a sig like that, I think he's praying for your soul.
man-made accidental disaster
Something's weird with that phrase.
...and you are parroting the same tired arguments uninformed Java-apologist people parrot.
Go climb back into your Java coffee bean shell and go back to sleep so the adults can get on with the real work. :)
No problemo - I must confess that I use ubuntu on all my desktops. I've learnt to live with it's warts. I just with they'd sort the basic stuff, you know?
I love Linux. I almost love Ubuntu's _attempt_ at making it all GUIfied and usable. However, I no longer apologise about the problems. I've been, and will continue, recommending windows* to family and friends.
Mark Shuttleworth has a wonderful opportunity to make something as slick as Apple's desktop. So far, I'm afraid, he has failed (sorry Mark, one fellow countryman to another).
Sigh, you're about right. I'm a long-time UNIX and Linux user. Servers mostly. Have you noticed how almost every application in GNOME uses different hotkeys for common things? (eg, changing tabs, copy/pasting, etc). It's a joke really. Mention these issues and the Ubuntu apologists come oozing out the woodwork.
Ubuntu is now changing to a new UI before sorting things with the existing UI? That's MS style, fuck that shit.
At least the heart of Linux is still good. The kernel and GNU.
amen to that.
Some of the most useful achievements come from science mimicking nature.
5 to 10 years, as always.
Thank heavens your kind are in the minority. All you ever see is the negative. You would do well in the Vatican...
That was an excellent visual description of the expanding sphere of radiation. I'll remember that one to explain to folks here why something as massive as a star or galaxy is only seen as a point of light when viewed without magnification (which is really collecting as many of those photons as possible).
I must say I'm still a bit skeptical about the 10~15 year target. For orbiting Mars, sure, but to actually land on Mars?
I think everyone is. However, there's also the possibility that we've been so conditioned by NASA's big-budget bureaucratic way of doing things that we can't but be skeptical when an entrepreneur says, "hey, why the fuck not?"
The company gets to save millions of euros in the long run. For them it's worthwhile.
Employees get to learn something new (not much actually, their environment is probably web based, so their main work/interface/workflow won't change at all). For them it's a good thing.
Remember, these employees don't have to fool around with installing/maintaining software, setting up printers or anything of that sort. All they do is switch on the machine, login, open the app/browser, work, click print, maybe use openoffice with company templates, etc. In other words simple shit which does not require extensive knowledge of how the OS works.
This is going to happen more and more as executives realize that the windows upgrade/ballmer-pound-you-in-the-ass cycle offers very little ROI. Most of them are still sipping the MS kool-aid, but this is changing.