"A picture of a squirrel or pigeon near where you live is fine. One close up, one from the distance enough so there are buildings or anything to help identify the location of where the pic was taken from."
Um, I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask this. But how in the hell does this prove that you are not the FBI, Secret Service, Police or whoever? Even if he was on campus at the time, I'm sure any authority that you'd want to fear could get to wherever they needed to be to take that picture in the same day that he asks for it.
O mighty hackers, please enlighten me and others here about this technique. Otherwise, I'm going to go on thinking that Jericho's methodology here is rather insane. Or is Attrition a joke hacker site or something to just expose people like Todd?
I did think that this part of the dialogue was pretty hillarious:
Jericho: And, are there pigeons on campus? Todd: Forgive what I assume is dumb question, but what are pigeons? I know you're not talking about the bird. Jericho: Actually I am. Todd: Wow, I feel dumb now.
How does this work, can you store the browser on the console itself and switch to it at anytime? Or do you have to pop out your favorite game and then pop in a browser disc? Just curious.
By the way, if anyone wants to buy me a Wii for my birthday coming up in February, you can send it to:
Suso 101 W. Kirkwood Ave., #008B Bloomington, IN 47404
2. This article is 2 years old. Everything in its comparisons is out of date.
Its a government website and so it was written in Government Time (GVT). That means that February 2005 is actually about May of 2009. So clearly the author of the page can't be trusted.
I think that most people hate it when they hear the little girl say "I know this". I didn't like it much either, but ironically, a lot of computer geek kids (and some adults) say stuff like that. Mostly because their lives aren't interesting enough and they need to exagerate a lot. When I was in elementary school, after War Games came out, I remember some kid saying "Dude, my brother hacked into the school's computer with the password pencilsharpener". Sigh. Another kid tried to tell us that his dad turned a audio tape player into a VCR
Also, the little girl running the SGI may have been a reference to a marketing campaign that SGI did in the 80s/90s sometime where a young girl demonstrated an SGI at a conference and it wowed all the attendees. Mostly executives.
In my opinion and if I remember right, The Net had some obvious reasons for being unrealistic. For instance, when she is talking to her friend in a chat room, he responds to her questions with a paragraph of text almost instantly. Didn't the director think this one through? Who can type THAT fast?
Those people using fake board pass generators are not paying anything for their privilege to visit the Cinnabon(TM) that is down by the gates. They must be stopped.
That's good. I find it interesting though how fast it was dropped. Appearently, the status quo is that its ok to make a boarding pass generator, but its not ok to create DVD decrypting software. Granted, I understand why the latter generates more lawsuits, but still this is pretty much the end result.
Maybe we'll see a boarding pass generator in the next version of RedHat Linux.
If I were Chris, I'd thoroughly check and wipe the disks of the computers that the FBI gave back to him.
Seriously now, that idea... Besides being technically and conceptually ludicrous, that's the equivalent of saying that people below certain IQ level should be banned from voting, writing or appearing on TV...
No, I didn't say people should be banned. I said counties should be banned if they don't meet certain requirements. Basically, if they don't have a policy for enforcing certain rules and authority, they should be banned. Its like anything else, for a nation to be admitted to the UN, they have to meet certain requirements, right?
Hackers can think whatever they want. The real problem right now is that the governments of the countries they live in don't care and don't do anything about it. Perhaps that's understandable since many of those countries have enough non-tech issues to deal with already. But I think that if that's the case, they just shouldn't be allowed on the internet yet. There really needs to be a bar for entry. I can't tell you how many applications we get for people using stolen credit card numbers and coming from IPs in Africa, Indonesia, etc. Fortunately, we check applications by hand and weed those out. But many hosting companies probably just accept them and create accounts, opening their systems to escalated privlige attacks.
I'm surprised we haven't started seeing vigilantes tracking down hackers and spammers. When governments can't handle things, the mob takes over.
I think that as online TV becomes more popular, people will isolate themselves more and more from a shared experience. So people will end up having even more polarized views of things.
Slashdot Mirror
How about out-of-touch teachers who demonize technology to abuse and undermine pupils?
Shut up and eat your meat!
Awww...
A long time ago, I started this mentod of doing this on suso.org. It caught on and now I encourage all my customers to do it:
d s.sdf
http://www.suso.org/docs/databases/mysqlinfo.sdf
http://www.suso.org/docs/databases/saferdbpasswor
I've thought about trying to spread the word about it and even making an RFC, but I don't have the time for that.
Speaking of Wikipedia, it looks like they will hit 100 million edits today or tommorow for the English part. Quite an accomplishment.
To make up for that, I've created a mirror:
http://suso.suso.org/attrition1.html
http://suso.suso.org/attrition2.html (Page 2)
I read the email correspondence before reading the network world article. They were just leading him on.
"A picture of a squirrel or pigeon near where you live is fine. One close up, one from the distance enough so there are buildings or anything to help identify the location of where the pic was taken from."
Um, I'm sure I won't be the only one to ask this. But how in the hell does this prove that you are not the FBI, Secret Service, Police or whoever? Even if he was on campus at the time, I'm sure any authority that you'd want to fear could get to wherever they needed to be to take that picture in the same day that he asks for it.
O mighty hackers, please enlighten me and others here about this technique. Otherwise, I'm going to go on thinking that Jericho's methodology here is rather insane. Or is Attrition a joke hacker site or something to just expose people like Todd?
I did think that this part of the dialogue was pretty hillarious:
Jericho: And, are there pigeons on campus?
Todd: Forgive what I assume is dumb question, but what are pigeons? I know you're not talking about the bird.
Jericho: Actually I am.
Todd: Wow, I feel dumb now.
How does this work, can you store the browser on the console itself and switch to it at anytime? Or do you have to pop out your favorite game and then pop in a browser disc? Just curious.
;-)
By the way, if anyone wants to buy me a Wii for my birthday coming up in February, you can send it to:
Suso
101 W. Kirkwood Ave., #008B
Bloomington, IN 47404
Thanks.
2. This article is 2 years old. Everything in its comparisons is out of date.
Its a government website and so it was written in Government Time (GVT). That means that February 2005 is actually about May of 2009. So clearly the author of the page can't be trusted.
I'm glad someone got my 6 "a mountain" reference. They used to say that on TV when advertising shows.
This week on LKML 24. Andrew and Linus get into it over politics, while Greg watches from the closet. Watch it Friday at 8, 7 central, 6 a mountain.
Christianity is finally growing a pair.
I think that's about all I can say about this.
Well I guess its not automated account generation, I signed up 30 minutes ago and still haven't received welcome info.
for not blowing this up to Scott Peterson level.
This just goes to show you that stuff like this happens all the time that never gets seen in national media.
I think that most people hate it when they hear the little girl say "I know this". I didn't like it much either, but ironically, a lot of computer geek kids (and some adults) say stuff like that. Mostly because their lives aren't interesting enough and they need to exagerate a lot. When I was in elementary school, after War Games came out, I remember some kid saying "Dude, my brother hacked into the school's computer with the password pencilsharpener". Sigh. Another kid tried to tell us that his dad turned a audio tape player into a VCR
Also, the little girl running the SGI may have been a reference to a marketing campaign that SGI did in the 80s/90s sometime where a young girl demonstrated an SGI at a conference and it wowed all the attendees. Mostly executives.
In my opinion and if I remember right, The Net had some obvious reasons for being unrealistic. For instance, when she is talking to her friend in a chat room, he responds to her questions with a paragraph of text almost instantly. Didn't the director think this one through? Who can type THAT fast?
Tommorow we're going to hear from the ping department at Yahoo.
I always wondered what they do with all those echo requests.
Ok, then how about this.
Those people using fake board pass generators are not paying anything for their privilege to visit the Cinnabon(TM) that is down by the gates. They must be stopped.
That's good. I find it interesting though how fast it was dropped. Appearently, the status quo is that its ok to make a boarding pass generator, but its not ok to create DVD decrypting software. Granted, I understand why the latter generates more lawsuits, but still this is pretty much the end result.
Maybe we'll see a boarding pass generator in the next version of RedHat Linux.
If I were Chris, I'd thoroughly check and wipe the disks of the computers that the FBI gave back to him.
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I know I sure as hell fantasize about that.
;-)
I really don't know what you are talking about.
Seriously though, hackers are just misguided. Spammers however....
You are obviously from the mid-west.Alright, I'll bite. Why do you say that?
Seriously now, that idea... Besides being technically and conceptually ludicrous, that's the equivalent of saying that people below certain IQ level should be banned from voting, writing or appearing on TV...
No, I didn't say people should be banned. I said counties should be banned if they don't meet certain requirements. Basically, if they don't have a policy for enforcing certain rules and authority, they should be banned. Its like anything else, for a nation to be admitted to the UN, they have to meet certain requirements, right?
Now that guy with the wiggling eyebrows has to be one of the funniest banner ads ever.
Hackers can think whatever they want. The real problem right now is that the governments of the countries they live in don't care and don't do anything about it. Perhaps that's understandable since many of those countries have enough non-tech issues to deal with already. But I think that if that's the case, they just shouldn't be allowed on the internet yet. There really needs to be a bar for entry. I can't tell you how many applications we get for people using stolen credit card numbers and coming from IPs in Africa, Indonesia, etc. Fortunately, we check applications by hand and weed those out. But many hosting companies probably just accept them and create accounts, opening their systems to escalated privlige attacks.
I'm surprised we haven't started seeing vigilantes tracking down hackers and spammers. When governments can't handle things, the mob takes over.
I think that as online TV becomes more popular, people will isolate themselves more and more from a shared experience. So people will end up having even more polarized views of things.
Because it had to move through the digestive tract and on through the large intestine.