I think you're a bit deluded. You are basically implying that all advertising ever is unwanted. However if that was the case we wouldn't be where we are now. We would be a bunch of people in caves not trusting each other and killing each other because they took your club. People need ways of finding out about things. Even if its done with positive tone (like in a commercial) instead of neutral one (like in an article).
Myself, I can't stand disruptive and fraudulent advertising (what I consider spam). I have been a system administrator for 10 years now at places and for my own hosting company and have had more than my share of waking up in the middle of the night to block some asshole that is sending 10000s of messages to my mail server or making 100 requests per second to Apache (referal spam). I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. There is a big difference though between this type of marketing, and me putting a single line with a link and a factual statement in my sigline. I'm not being disruptive(I'm not causing CowboyNeal to have to take time out of his day to block me for overusing resources on slashdot), I'm not really wasting your time (you can just ignore it or turn off siglines) and I'm not being fraudulent (I only make statements that I can back up).
How does any new business get noticed? By article reviews? Not going to happen and too few and far between to be helpful. By word of mouth? Sure, but this is just advertising in disguise. So there has to be some non intrusive way to let people know about your product. I will just do what I consider to be the right thing and be respectful of your time and not waste much of it and be as unintrusive as possible.
What I hate is that there is little room left on the internet for legitimate advertising. When the first spam messages went out back in the 90s, they didn't try to be as deceptive or fraudulent as they are today. People still hated them, but at least they were being more honest about their practices. Nowadays you have real spammers that are disruptive, invasive, fraudulent and don't care that they are these things. This is the real spam. However there are still a lot of people out there that think that every piece of marketing material whether its legitimate or not should be treated as spam and the person sending it should be hung out on a noose.
If people are going to have this opinion in a capatalistic society, then that's hypocrisy and I think they need to think a bit more about what they are doing. If these people think that advertising shouldn't have a place in our society then I think they should consider that maybe money doesn't either. Because we can't have both. Capitalism needs marketing,
When I put advertisements in my signature line, I try not to be invasive, fraudulent or deceptive. But yet people treat me like I'm hell incarnate. I think that's wrong.
Linux users probably use more CD-Rs because versions of Linux have come out more frequently than versions of Windows. Think of how many Linux CD-Rs you've written since Windows XP came out years ago. Probably enough to make plastic to make a monitor casing?
I'm sorry but this is not a level playing field. What this is is acknowledging the competition so as to appear fair and silence advocates, but then show off the latest features of Vista's interface, but not show the same in Linux and OSX. They have been playing this game for long enough that they know that eye candy sells. For goodness sake a Linux user that I work with said he was going to buy Vista just because he thought the box looks cool.
What kind of dope uses Fedora on a production server?
Here is where I make myself sound like an old man talking to his children about walking through the snow both ways. I knew someone would have to make a remark like this.
I've been using RedHat and thus Fedora for 10 years now. I started out on Linux on the RedHat track. And thus I'm more familiar with it. CentOS wasn't even in diapers and there weren't many other choices. Now that there are things like CentOS, I've actually gotten tired of dealing with rpm dependency issues that Fedora/CentOS/RHEL have and don't want to use it anymore. I once had an error about something like kernel-source requires some audio library.
At the same time, the "your system is always approaching the bleeding edge" way of doing things solves one problem that I've always been bothered by with running user servers for suso.org. Eventually, the OS on the server reaches the age where it is no longer supported and updates are no longer coming out for it. This isn't always X years where X is the number of years that a distribution claims to provide package updates for. Its usually X-1. This is because you'd be foolish to use the very latest hasn't been available for more than a day version of Linux. Usually you wait for 6-12 months for it to be mature and have special packages of whatever available for it. Then you spend another month or two setting up the machine and getting it ready for production. By that time, you've already burned over a year of support time. Then you get users onto it and now you only have X-1.5 years of support. On Fedora, this means practically no time is left. Upgrading such a system to the latest version of whatever distro means taking the server down for several hours to upgrade, hope to hell that special packages you've built and configurations aren't broken and in nightmare situations, roll back because something is broken and can't be fixed.
The promise of Gentoo for me is being able to continually upgrade and never get outside of that window of support.
I actually have a new shared user system that is running Gentoo that is kinda in beta right now. This article was very useful for me because it brings up those points about stability that concern me. Its kinda an experiment.
Yes, yes, of course. But I think that the case you are talking about occurs far less of the time than professors being flat out wrong in their statements.
I wonder how many of those professors had actually been misinformed. I've had a handful of professors state information that I found out later to be in disagreement with a larger community. Most of them don't like to be told or find out that they are wrong. On the other hand, I don't blame them for doing this. Wikipedia might be a good place for determining what books you could find good information in, but not as the reference itself.
With City Wikis like Bloomingpedia, a lot of the information is gathered from observation and personal research and there isn't much else to reference. I'm wondering how referencing then will pan out, if it ever needs to be done.
Whoever appeals to the general public and doesn't alienate themself with overly strong opinions. Someone who recognizes strengths and weaknesses in all platforms and summarizes that, but puts a spin on their own favorite platform.
Well with the unix epoch hitting 1169696969 in 7 hours and thus a dip in the 65% of people spending time with their SO, it should be harder for him to purify the net.
I know of no good ISP that bans such servers. Nor would I use any that did - that's retarded... I'm paying for the bandwidth and it's mine to use.
Ok numbnuts, that's exactly the kind of attitude that spammers have. That they can do anything because they pay for it. You pay taxes for construction of roads and for schools, but that doesn't give you the right to drive 100 mph through a school zone. You have to have limits. There have to be rules.
1 - death ( yes, death, not jail ) for conviced spammers ( oh, and make it painful and long too )
Please try to size the punishment to the size of the crime. Most civilized countries don't even have death sentence for serial murder. Also, your American laws don't carry much power over other jurisdictions, and convincing others to share death penalty for something like this would be hard.
Ok, I think you're missing something. You're trying to apply morality to this situation and I don't think spammers derserve that. At least not the worst of them. Spammers are a dime a dozen, and they all think that what they are doing is ok and that there are no consequences to it. I know this because I've talked to some directly. They don't have anything that is really scaring them into stopping what they are doing. And for every spammer that goes down there are 2 to replace that one.
What we really need is something like the Boogy Man is to children. Maybe not a vigilante that kills spammers (although I've said that this is a possible solution before), but something that would scare the living shit out of spammers and make them really worry that what they are doing is going to come to get them. And also makes new spammers realize what kind of risk they are getting into to.
Because all the anti-spam, laws, humiliation tactics that we are using now are doing practically nothing to prevent the problem from the beginning. Its time for more extreme tactics.
You are torturing me! I have to fast this morning until 11am because I have this health screening thing at work. And now a story on Slashdot about breakfast. Of all the days, I swear. I guess though that on any given day someone reading Slashdot has to fast for some reason.
To answer your question though, I usually have some sort of pastry, peanut butter and jelly sandwich or donuts. On the weekends when I have more time, I make eggs and bacon or waffles for my family. And milk of course. I'm not a coffee drinker. Coffee ice cream though, now that gets me going. But not in the mornings.
Oooo ooo oo. I've wanted that too. It could be really awesome if done right. There is a level of UT2004 that reminds me of Below the Root and what a remake might be like. Just make sure its generally non-violent like the first one. It could set a good example of how games can be non-violent, but still a lot of fun.
First of all, I was just making a joke and I was generalizing the way a lot of people think about the problem.
Secondly. I think that most people are placing too much of the responsibility in the hands of individuals. Global warming is a problem we are facing as a society more than as an individual. Honestly ask yourself this: Do you think that 99% of the population is going to be convinced to change their habits anytime in the next 50 years. This is a guestimate of probably what it would take to reverse 100+ years of build up to this problem. Society as a whole will procrastinate and be slow to change. Where society will learn is how it has always learned, a major catastrophic event will occur and people will learn after that. Think about big events and periods of time like the Bubonic Plague, slavery and even the Great Depression in the US. Those are events that society learns from. Its more up to the heads of government to guide people in the right direction after the event occurs. And to learn the most from whatever caused it.
So I hate to say it, but I'm afraid that the only way you're going to change everybody is for everybody to go through whatever results from Global Warming. Its sad, but probably true. The best thing that those in the know can do is prepare and hope for the best.
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I think you're a bit deluded. You are basically implying that all advertising ever is unwanted. However if that was the case we wouldn't be where we are now. We would be a bunch of people in caves not trusting each other and killing each other because they took your club. People need ways of finding out about things. Even if its done with positive tone (like in a commercial) instead of neutral one (like in an article).
Myself, I can't stand disruptive and fraudulent advertising (what I consider spam). I have been a system administrator for 10 years now at places and for my own hosting company and have had more than my share of waking up in the middle of the night to block some asshole that is sending 10000s of messages to my mail server or making 100 requests per second to Apache (referal spam). I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. There is a big difference though between this type of marketing, and me putting a single line with a link and a factual statement in my sigline. I'm not being disruptive(I'm not causing CowboyNeal to have to take time out of his day to block me for overusing resources on slashdot), I'm not really wasting your time (you can just ignore it or turn off siglines) and I'm not being fraudulent (I only make statements that I can back up).
How does any new business get noticed? By article reviews? Not going to happen and too few and far between to be helpful. By word of mouth? Sure, but this is just advertising in disguise. So there has to be some non intrusive way to let people know about your product. I will just do what I consider to be the right thing and be respectful of your time and not waste much of it and be as unintrusive as possible.
What I hate is that there is little room left on the internet for legitimate advertising. When the first spam messages went out back in the 90s, they didn't try to be as deceptive or fraudulent as they are today. People still hated them, but at least they were being more honest about their practices. Nowadays you have real spammers that are disruptive, invasive, fraudulent and don't care that they are these things. This is the real spam. However there are still a lot of people out there that think that every piece of marketing material whether its legitimate or not should be treated as spam and the person sending it should be hung out on a noose.
If people are going to have this opinion in a capatalistic society, then that's hypocrisy and I think they need to think a bit more about what they are doing. If these people think that advertising shouldn't have a place in our society then I think they should consider that maybe money doesn't either. Because we can't have both. Capitalism needs marketing,
When I put advertisements in my signature line, I try not to be invasive, fraudulent or deceptive. But yet people treat me like I'm hell incarnate. I think that's wrong.
Linux users probably use more CD-Rs because versions of Linux have come out more frequently than versions of Windows. Think of how many Linux CD-Rs you've written since Windows XP came out years ago. Probably enough to make plastic to make a monitor casing?
I think I know what it is like writing games. If you get one thing wrong on the box, people ignore you completely.
Shouldn't a cube have 6 sides?
People aren't ready for that 3rd dimension yet. Oh wait....
I'm sorry but this is not a level playing field. What this is is acknowledging the competition so as to appear fair and silence advocates, but then show off the latest features of Vista's interface, but not show the same in Linux and OSX. They have been playing this game for long enough that they know that eye candy sells. For goodness sake a Linux user that I work with said he was going to buy Vista just because he thought the box looks cool.
Nice covert ad for your lame wiki about your lame town (Illinois is better! We have the Bears! Who are going to lose...)
Heh, did you know that the Bear's quarterback (Rex Grossman) is from our "lame ass town"?
What kind of dope uses Fedora on a production server?
Here is where I make myself sound like an old man talking to his children about walking through the snow both ways. I knew someone would have to make a remark like this.
I've been using RedHat and thus Fedora for 10 years now. I started out on Linux on the RedHat track. And thus I'm more familiar with it. CentOS wasn't even in diapers and there weren't many other choices. Now that there are things like CentOS, I've actually gotten tired of dealing with rpm dependency issues that Fedora/CentOS/RHEL have and don't want to use it anymore. I once had an error about something like kernel-source requires some audio library.
I ran RedHat 6.2....... 8 years ago. Dude, that's not too cool. IMHO, that was back when there were some more serious remote exploits.
At the same time, the "your system is always approaching the bleeding edge" way of doing things solves one problem that I've always been bothered by with running user servers for suso.org. Eventually, the OS on the server reaches the age where it is no longer supported and updates are no longer coming out for it. This isn't always X years where X is the number of years that a distribution claims to provide package updates for. Its usually X-1. This is because you'd be foolish to use the very latest hasn't been available for more than a day version of Linux. Usually you wait for 6-12 months for it to be mature and have special packages of whatever available for it. Then you spend another month or two setting up the machine and getting it ready for production. By that time, you've already burned over a year of support time. Then you get users onto it and now you only have X-1.5 years of support. On Fedora, this means practically no time is left. Upgrading such a system to the latest version of whatever distro means taking the server down for several hours to upgrade, hope to hell that special packages you've built and configurations aren't broken and in nightmare situations, roll back because something is broken and can't be fixed.
The promise of Gentoo for me is being able to continually upgrade and never get outside of that window of support.
I actually have a new shared user system that is running Gentoo that is kinda in beta right now. This article was very useful for me because it brings up those points about stability that concern me. Its kinda an experiment.
I think I may try Debian next.
Yes, yes, of course. But I think that the case you are talking about occurs far less of the time than professors being flat out wrong in their statements.
I wonder how many of those professors had actually been misinformed. I've had a handful of professors state information that I found out later to be in disagreement with a larger community. Most of them don't like to be told or find out that they are wrong. On the other hand, I don't blame them for doing this. Wikipedia might be a good place for determining what books you could find good information in, but not as the reference itself.
With City Wikis like Bloomingpedia, a lot of the information is gathered from observation and personal research and there isn't much else to reference. I'm wondering how referencing then will pan out, if it ever needs to be done.
Whoever appeals to the general public and doesn't alienate themself with overly strong opinions. Someone who recognizes strengths and weaknesses in all platforms and summarizes that, but puts a spin on their own favorite platform.
Well with the unix epoch hitting 1169696969 in 7 hours and thus a dip in the 65% of people spending time with their SO, it should be harder for him to purify the net.
I know of no good ISP that bans such servers. Nor would I use any that did - that's retarded... I'm paying for the bandwidth and it's mine to use.
Ok numbnuts, that's exactly the kind of attitude that spammers have. That they can do anything because they pay for it. You pay taxes for construction of roads and for schools, but that doesn't give you the right to drive 100 mph through a school zone. You have to have limits. There have to be rules.
1 - death ( yes, death, not jail ) for conviced spammers ( oh, and make it painful and long too )
Please try to size the punishment to the size of the crime. Most civilized countries don't even have death sentence for serial murder. Also, your American laws don't carry much power over other jurisdictions, and convincing others to share death penalty for something like this would be hard.
Ok, I think you're missing something. You're trying to apply morality to this situation and I don't think spammers derserve that. At least not the worst of them. Spammers are a dime a dozen, and they all think that what they are doing is ok and that there are no consequences to it. I know this because I've talked to some directly. They don't have anything that is really scaring them into stopping what they are doing. And for every spammer that goes down there are 2 to replace that one.
What we really need is something like the Boogy Man is to children. Maybe not a vigilante that kills spammers (although I've said that this is a possible solution before), but something that would scare the living shit out of spammers and make them really worry that what they are doing is going to come to get them. And also makes new spammers realize what kind of risk they are getting into to.
Because all the anti-spam, laws, humiliation tactics that we are using now are doing practically nothing to prevent the problem from the beginning. Its time for more extreme tactics.
It looks like she did this almost 2 years ago. So why is this being announced now?
Better get the diabetes test *and* the cholesterol screening.
Repeat after me. Cheap shots on Slashdot do not make me cool.
You are torturing me! I have to fast this morning until 11am because I have this health screening thing at work. And now a story on Slashdot about breakfast. Of all the days, I swear. I guess though that on any given day someone reading Slashdot has to fast for some reason.
To answer your question though, I usually have some sort of pastry, peanut butter and jelly sandwich or donuts. On the weekends when I have more time, I make eggs and bacon or waffles for my family. And milk of course. I'm not a coffee drinker. Coffee ice cream though, now that gets me going. But not in the mornings.
How about a sequal/remake of Below the Root?
Oooo ooo oo. I've wanted that too. It could be really awesome if done right. There is a level of UT2004 that reminds me of Below the Root and what a remake might be like. Just make sure its generally non-violent like the first one. It could set a good example of how games can be non-violent, but still a lot of fun.
They started too, but it took them a while in the design phase and then they realized there aren't any 86-bit computers out there.
You really do have a choice.
First of all, I was just making a joke and I was generalizing the way a lot of people think about the problem.
Secondly. I think that most people are placing too much of the responsibility in the hands of individuals. Global warming is a problem we are facing as a society more than as an individual. Honestly ask yourself this: Do you think that 99% of the population is going to be convinced to change their habits anytime in the next 50 years. This is a guestimate of probably what it would take to reverse 100+ years of build up to this problem. Society as a whole will procrastinate and be slow to change. Where society will learn is how it has always learned, a major catastrophic event will occur and people will learn after that. Think about big events and periods of time like the Bubonic Plague, slavery and even the Great Depression in the US. Those are events that society learns from. Its more up to the heads of government to guide people in the right direction after the event occurs. And to learn the most from whatever caused it.
So I hate to say it, but I'm afraid that the only way you're going to change everybody is for everybody to go through whatever results from Global Warming. Its sad, but probably true. The best thing that those in the know can do is prepare and hope for the best.
See you on the other side.
Hans Jepsen is a cartographer at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland, which produces topographical maps for mining and oil companies.
Step 1: Oil companies produces global warming
Step 2: Global warming reduces ice in arctic
Step 3: Oil companies say "Cool, more room for oil"
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit
Since when was an over-sized cup called a clock?
When it has a pendulum.
Let the comments about how it looks just like an avatar from Quake/UT/Halo/etc begin.