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Hans Reiser in Court Today
An anonymous reader writes "Hans Reiser has pled not guilty to murdering his wife and invoked his right to a speedy trial. He will attend a hearing today where the judge will decide if the state has a case " We had covered this story back when it had first broke; and for those of you playing catch-up, Hans is the author of ReiserFS.
for not blowing this up to Scott Peterson level.
This just goes to show you that stuff like this happens all the time that never gets seen in national media.
I'm sure you'll find that our good friend Hans has no record of this ever taking place.
Did they ever find his wife or is she still missing?
Who cares about Hans Reisers ran-away-bitch when Hans Reisers filesystem destroyed my 250GByte of porn as soon as the hdd was full?
There, I said it, reiser4 sucks! That's news for nerds.
There's one open source guy that will have an abundance of time to finish his code, and to document, and to patch for bugs...
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http://engine.net/
"We had covered this story back when it had first broke; "
Yet somehow you managed to never run a single story on James Kim.
It will blow you away.
Truly a killer filesystem.
See, there's no reason to fear abandonment of the Reiser FS if this dude gets locked up.
Wanna fight ? Bend over, stick your head up your ass, and fight for air.
So, your porn collection that was destroyed contained tens of thousands of young, horny men. Or did I not read that right?
I personally am leaning towards the thought that he is guilty. He missed little bits of evidence, especially the books that were esentially on how to kill someone and get away with it.
HOWEVER
The outcome of this trial surely will hold or change the course of the PC's filesystems. Granted, the new ReiserFS isn't oficially going to be supported by everyone, but when they see what it can do (SuSE?), they may just be convinced to switch...IF he is found not guilty, and if he will have not been so defamed by this case that he loses all credibility because it could be brought up in court and he be found guilty with new evidence a day, a year, or a decade in the future.
I hate grammar Nazis.
Funny: The sheer irony of a filesystem guy losing information.
Flamebait: The same thing...trying to poke a little jab about this.
Mod me insightful.
I don't know about the rest of the Slashdotters here, but I have 3 kids. Hans has 2, who are in Protective Services right now (not a great place for the kids to be).
Key point about the kids from TFA:
(emphasis added)Nina's boyfriend Sean Sturgeon allegedly practices BDSM, raped Nina, engages in "death yoga", made death threats against Hans, cheated with a married woman, and stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from Hans Reiser:
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http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_256204954.
Hans Reiser, on the other hand, is a linux developer.
Guess which one the cops arrested and which one isn't even a suspect?
That he tried to delete the evidence from his computer, but unfortunately he was using a journaling file system.
No, he specifically said it was other people's porn collection that contained tens of thousands of young, horny men.
http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/so-i-marri ed-a-kernel-programmer
mmmm tasteless....
OJAY SIMPSON is the case for you. He killed Nicole Kidman and then had the whole liability case that he WAS liable for. So they executed him when they found him guilty in Civil Court (CC).
Linus, you have blood on your hands.
Maybe Hans can be convicted on no actual evidence whatsoever besides the dazzling smile of his now dead, heavily pregnant cheerleader all American wife. Not that sending people to death row on less evidence than you would put down a dog is bad, mind you.
Are you sure he killed Nicole Kidman? I'm pretty sure she's been a few movies since the whole OJ flap.
I mean, seriously, anyone who's ever touched Reiser knows that there are things that go missing from time to time, but sometimes they reemerge without you doing anything whatsoever. Maybe they should just sit there and wait, maybe rearrange a few pieces of furniture and I bet she'll suddenly and mysteriously appear in the middle of the living room.
Yes, I do agree, we need a "tasteless" tag.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
was the revenge bit, which was at the center of that argument. Do you really think revenge is going to do any good? You know where an 'eye for an eye' leads to? If you need to kill somebody to feel better, no matter what the circumstances, you belong behind bars or in a psychiatric ward.
This space is intentionally staring blankly at you
I'm guessing the purpose of prison is justice. I won't say all, but I would imagine most people have a keen sense of when justice has been done. I also believe that when justice is not done, it really bothers most people -- whether the just result is punishment or reward.
The police interviewing Hans's son and then using what the son said against his own father is unbelievable. There's no accusation that Hans ever harmed his kids, and surely the kids are suffering enough without watching their own words possibly put their father into prison for the rest of his life. That's just sad.
Its a joke. Laugh, you fucking moron.
Enjoy your V&
It'll be called IFIDIDITFS.
Mr. T pitied this fool on 27 July 1992.
Kid has a good head on his soldiers
Thanks for the link; I had not heard any of that. While some of the points are hearsay, the pattern does make it look like the boyfriend should be considered at least as much of a suspect as Reiser.
--MarkusQ
Free Hans? No thanks, I've already got two.
All the best Hans, and thanks again for the wonderful FS.. hope you become free (as in bird) soon.
I have no idea if Hans Reiser killed Nina Resier or not. However, I do believe she is dead. Nina Resier was Russian and I have had experience with women from the former Soviet Union. They can be very loving and very feminine and this what attracts men to them. Unfortunately, many of them have anger management issues and can turn into screaming demons from hell at little provocation. My ex-fiancee was from Ukraine and we didn't complete the process to get her a fiancee visa so she could immigrate to America because of her anger. My experience has been that unfortunately most, but not all, of the women in that part of the world tend to be control freaks and have anger management issues. My ex-fiancee would scream at me at the top of her lungs for trivial things, like sitting too close to the TV. From what I've read, I'd say that Nina is probably a typical angry Russian woman and one might think that maybe an angry woman would just disappear to set up an estranged husband.
However, there are two things that trump that. One is that it really is not typical of these women to disappear. Their style is to hire a good lawyer and try to take everything you've got in a divorce case. They can be vindictive beyond belief. The other thing is that these women are unbelievably devoted mothers and there is no chance at all that Nina would abandon her children. None. A Russian woman would never abandon her children. She might fight in court to keep them away from her husband, but abandon them to him? Never. That is why I am convinced that Nina is dead.
Then he is wrong. ReiserFS is not availible as a filesystem on the Mac.
Anthony Zografos, not Sean Sturgeon, was named as Nina's boyfriend.
The allegations of BDSM/rape/etc. were made by Hans while he was being sued by Sturgeon. The lawsuit was settled out of court.
My theory is that 'the other guy' did it. Que bono? Who benefits? Neither the wife nor Reiser does, obviosuly, with this chain of events. If Reiser goes away for a long ,long time, this 3rd guy - the guy that seduced his wife - doesn't have to worry about anything. It's the perfect setup.
~/ssh slashdot.org ssh: connect to host slashdot.org port 22: too many beers
Did he finaly get around to sue Linus to include Reiser4 in the vanilla Kernel?
That's interesting to know. Honestly, I'm amazed that it works as well as you say it does, but like I said in the subject line, distrust of the government is rooted in the USA's history.
The country was founded by a group of folks who felt persecuted by their government, after all. Our very Constitution is written to take power away from the leaders, and guarantee rights to the citizens. A look at the Bill of Rights proves that pretty easily. The first amendment prevents the government from silencing its citizens. The second was intended to prevent the government from disarming its citizens. The third prevents it from "unreasonably" searching citizens or taking their property. And the ninth specifies that rights cannot be denied just because the Constitution doesn't specifically mention them.
As they say, "power corrupts." The people who founded our government not only knew this, but they did the best they could to prevent that corruption from harming the citizens. How well they did is, obviously, up for debate, but it's undeniable that they tried.
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"I personal[ly] think Unix is "superior" because on LSD it tastes like Blue." -- jbarnett
Microsoft murdered Nina Reiser and framed Hans for it. They just couldn't take all the heat reiserfs was putting on ntfs!
If he was the developer of proprietary software and he cut his wife into pieces, the authorities would have a hell of a time discovering the algorithm with which he disassembled her. As it stands, she's probably sorted into a well documented balanced-tree. Shame we can't say the same for old Hans' emotional attributes.
I used to call a BBS back in the day where the SysOp got arrested for trying to hire someone to kill a rival SysOp for taking his girlfriend. I don't actually know anything about the Hans Reiser case, but it would not surprise me if it were true.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Death Yoga would (at worst) softly update the victim, whereas Reiser's system rolls the victim back. C'mon, dude, who do you think that points to, as a murderer?
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
You'd probably be better off with a $5 or $10 compass in addition to the paper road maps you probably already have, than a GPS.
Knowing that you're at 41.771312N 103.886719W is a whole lot less useful than knowing which direction to walk in to get to the nearest road or town. I made the mistake of going into the woods once with a GPS and without a compass, and I spent more time wandering around in boxes, trying to get the machine to tell me which direction I was heading, than I would have if I had just brought a compass and walked out to the nearest road.
GPS units are darned handy, don't get me wrong, but they're no replacement for the basics.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
So fucking true. Sad thing is, on digg, this post would be moderated to -100 or something.
'Yes, firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.'
While that might seem like a good solution on the surface, it doesn't work well in the grey areas where the authorities weren't acting in bad faith per se; the police officer might have thought that he was conducting a legal search, or had reasonable cause to enter, but on further review it was found that he didn't. There are a lot of situations I can think of, where the police officer shouldn't be punished, but the evidence found shouldn't be admissible either. The situation isn't always as cut-and-dried as some guy beating a confession out of somebody.
It's not necessary to do something that's deserving of punishment in order to invalidate the evidence. In fact, I think it's probably good that we have stricter standards for evidence admission than just "what isn't illegal."
But hey, if what the Finns have works for them, that's peachy by me. I've yet to see a criminal-justice system that I'd prefer, as a whole, to the one we have here in the U.S., and I've been looking for a while. Our system has its failures -- and some high-profiles ones at that -- but it works well most of the time, and I think its failure rate is well below the level of maximum acceptability.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
Most people have already switched to xfs. Reiser4 is not necessary anymore. I would rather make restitution to his poor wife's family if they don't string him up.
an ill wind that blows no good
Even before this happened, SuSE had already announced a move away from it. Reiser will remain a fringe filesystem, along with JFS and XFS. Each has their merits, but the ext[234] filesystems perform sufficiently for general usage, are the most widely understood in terms of data recovery, are the most widely tested filesystems, and for more high-performance requirements (i.e. database), allocating a raw block device to the software without a filesystem is not uncommon.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Actually, I think it is in the interest of society to exact revenge, if only by allowing the state to do it, we lessen the demand for individuals to do it themselves.
American society is fundamentally violent and vindictive. If the state didn't provide a good show of making the guilty miserable, it wouldn't take six months for our justice system to regress into a mess of blood feuds and lynch mobs. People would probably be begging to stay in prison, because they knew that their victim's family would be waiting for them outside the gates to start the real punishment.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
I am a digg reader because the moderation system is so much better than slashdot. Check out my brutal and succinct commentary on this matter. The story was of interest to gadget nerds and survivalists alike! The totality Kim's disasterous decision making during the ordeal merit Darwin Award consideration.
I agree. And unlike OJ he will not find a tainted jury to keep him out of the big house.
an ill wind that blows no good
"Nina Reiser was last seen at her husband's home on Exeter Drive in the Oakland hills on Sept. 3, when she dropped off the couple's children. She failed to meet her best friend at her house later that evening, authorities said.
Nina Reiser's 2001 Honda Odyssey minivan, with groceries inside, was found Sept. 9 in the city's Thornhill neighborhood. Neighbors first spotted the parked minivan Sept. 5, the day she was supposed to pick up her children at school, police said."
The minivan was 'spotted' Sept 5th? But 'found' on Sept 9th? Groceries inside? When did the reciept show the groceries were purchased? Before she dropped the kids off or after? If it was after, something is fishy. Grocery store surveilance cameras?
Hmmmmmm.
Just my two cents worth.
>>"He will attend a hearing today where the judge will decide if the state has a case " >>We had covered this story back when it had first broke When it had 'first broke'? All your case are belong to us.
Everyone is a potential murderer; you just need to know the right buttons to push, or right circumstances to put them in, to make them (allow them?) to kill.
That doesn't mean they're bad people. On the contrary, some of the nicest and most well-balanced people I know, would have zero compunction at all in blowing you away, if you in any way threatened or harmed their families. For that matter, neither would I; my obligation to protect my loved ones is far stronger than my obligation to not harm another human being that I don't know or particularly care about.
I have always found people who claim that they just could not kill, to be oddities. I'm torn between simply believing that they're deluding themselves about their own nature, or accepting that there are people who are just wired so fundamentally differently than everyone I know. I suspect there is a combination of both at work; while some people might actually be just incapable of killing someone else regardless of circumstances, a greater number of people would just like to believe that about themselves, but would probably pull the trigger in the right situation or with the right conditioning. Personally, I have always found realistic introspection to be more useful than wishful self-delusion; I have a pretty good idea of the circumstances under which I'd kill someone else. By beginning from the assumption or knowledge that you could end someone else's life, you can work backwards to the various triggers that would produce that end, and perhaps avoid the situations entirely (if any of the situations are avoidable).
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
Eating, sleeping and going to the gym is not exactly living hell.
That's what all the anal rape is for.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
Here in America, most technologically advanced country in the world, we have transcended your silly electronic transfer systems. Instead, we write the amount of money we wish to send on little rectangular pieces of paper, which we then send to the person to whom we'd like to send the funds, who takes it to their bank, who forwards it back to the original person's bank, who transfers the funds electronically. It's quite state-of-the-art, I assure you.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
the DA running around to get the jury pool filled with XFS, JFS, EXT4 and some snarky EXT2 developers...
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. Emo Philips
This guy is the OJ of Open Source ... his very troubled relationship with a seemingly wayward wife has culminated in this sad episode.
Hi, this post is all about Open Source Developers, REAL OPEN SOURCE DEVELOPERS. This post is awesome.
My name is Robert and I can't stop thinking about Open Source Developers.
These guys are cool; and by cool, I mean totally sweet.
Facts:
1. Open Source Developers are mammals.
2. Open Source Developers fight ALL the time.
3. The purpose of the Open Source Developer is to flip out and kill people.
If I know Hans, he'll just figure he'll take a rollback and everything will be fine.
imagine if it had been Dvorak from PCmag
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
not only is your filesystem dead..
Ever been involved in a law suit? Sturgeon settled, meaning he didn't want to try and disprove Han's claims. Speaks volumes really.
With a heart of ice and a head of solid granite, Dvorak is like +20 against cold. He'd just stumble out of the mountains months later with an implausible story about finding Apple's secret underground research facility (where they're developing the top-secret "Vista Ready" iMac) and how RMS, Google's black helicopters, and a troop of Mac fanboyscouts conspired to kill him...
0 1 - just my two bits
According to this article, Hans Reiser had to pay $8,000 in alimony a month to Nina. Nina was getting $96,000 a year for not working!
I don't condone any killing, legal or not, but if she had indeed cheated on him before their divorce and then got that kind of money, it's easy to see how the feeling of having been so completely beaten by someone he loved could have made him desperate.
Something seems broken with California's alimony law.
She may not have been a blonde, but I'd say Nina Reiser was an attractive lady.
They don't grade fathers, but if your daughter's a stripper, you fucked up. --Chris Rock
I would hope that Canada has a better judicial process than the states do.
In the state of nevada... there's a saying that goes... "Justice is Just's much as you can afford"
The point of this tirade is that a perfectly innocent female that I was married to
waived their right to a speedy trial.
In this particular instance, she spent a year on house arrest, waiting to go to trial
talking to court appointed attorney's that assured her that "She would get her chance to
"Tell the Truth" and that they knew that "everyone in that family is a bunch of liars"
(regarding the family of the ex-boyfriend)
One hour before they had to turn in the plea bargain agreement, signed or unsigned,
offered by the state before trial, her attorneys stated that there was no way she would
get a fair trial and that she would probably get life in prison if she didn't sign the plea
bargain as the state had so and so that was going to say such and such.. and on and on and on
"You'll get 5 years max" they told her...
They gave her 5 to life. She just got out after 12 years in prison.
So let's recap...
5 year old boy jumps up on couch and lands on newborn child...
Newborn goes from "Hurt but Ok" condition to "Critical" AFTER reaching the hospital and dies several days later.
Ex-Boyfriend's Family (30 years in law enforcement in nevada) freaks out when their family name hits the papers 4 months later
and suddenly my new wife is arrested and... well you know the result now.
Wonderful, talented, super mom is now someone I'd rather not hang out with after being around the prison population for 12 years....
Life has it's quirks, the only thing I regret is all the years I wasted being sorry for us.
Life is beautiful! It's been said by wise people for centuries... "Be honest with yourself and you
cannot help but be happy"
Why do you think we have a double jeopardy clause in our (USA) Constitution?
Sturgeon is a really good looking guy. Hans looks kinda odd. Any wonder the media has focused all their attention on hans?
Someone please mod the above up.
Because quite often cops act as thugs to conjure up the information they need/want.
Technicality suck, but somethings it is the only thing an inocent man has to protrect himself.
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive
No, ultimately, his biggest mistake was to try to get across the Coast Range on Forest Service roads in November. This is stupid whether you have GPS or not.
If I had to lay odds now, I'd bet a GPS got him into this predicament.
In my town there are lots of horse trails that used to be roads 50, 100 years ago. They're still on most of the online maps and apparently the GPS systems will tell you to drive down them. Our Police Department has been getting several calls a month since GPS systems got popular from people stuck in the sand. They apparently listen to the GPS saying "turn right" and don't even bother to see the "4X4 Vehicles Only" signs.
Google Maps, for instance places my house half a mile past where the road is passable if you don't have a UniMog. Sure, if would be nice if that road went though, but it doesn't. Before long there will probably be liability suits and somebody will make a good living driving all around creation verifying classes of roads in rural areas.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
My GPS has a 'compass mode' as well, but it will only work if you're moving. In heavy treecover, where you can only find occasional places to get a satellite lock, that doesn't do you a lot of good. This leads to the 'walking in boxes' that I described, where within the area that you can get a good signal, you're left walking around and trying to have the machine give you a heading.
The time I got lost in the woods was back in the later 90s, and I had what passed at the time as a state-of-the-art GPS, a Magellan GPS300. (Basically gave you position and heading, no mapping.) While newer models might be somewhat better at retaining signal lock through trees, I still wouldn't want to trust it. A GPS is fundamentally not a compass; its job is to tell you where you are, and possibly where you've come from, not what direction you're facing. It's that last element that's rather critically important.
It seems the GPS manufacturers have caught on to this limitation and now many of the nicer Garmin units have an internal magnetic compass, but honestly I'd rather have a separate magnetic compass and a plain GPS than a combined unit. If your batteries die and you were counting on the machine for both, you're SOL. At least if they're separate, you still have your compass.
Given the option, I'd obviously prefer to have both a map and compass, and a GPS unit. Particularly since a good compass can improve the utility of a GPS even in non-emergency situations; most of the major manufacturers have models out now that are designed to work in conjunction with GPSes, and have scales on them for pinpointing your position on a USGS map, etc.
"Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
Just don't forget to undo daylight savings first.
Antipodeans and the lost can point the 12 at the sun and find North/South halfway between 12 and the hour hand. Again, undo daylight savings time first.
I don't know if the guys did it or not. I care about it only because I have one computer in reiserfs3. Anyway I look at this, this is a violent criminal charge. Can anyone tell me how the heck does this concern "my right online" now?
The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the 'social sciences' is: some do, some don't
Out of every ten CRX I've ever seen, there has been one with a removed seat. A CRX doesn't have much of a trunk, to my knowledge; even a friend removed the seat to a CRX, for the needed storage space in his movements with his property. A CRX is not reliable in a collission, and weighted unevenly would cause it to sway uncontrollably in unusual road and weather conditions.
Keep dancing, misseur Reiser. \(*o*)/
PS. I've seen mules at a neighbor's chattel ranch reliably cary more weight than a CRX.
without prejudice
You mean like alcohol? I agree, people should smoke (or eat, or vapourise) more pot.
I actually considered whether to concede this point in my initial post - the fact that there are some state-sanctioned (and taxed) drugs - the question of whether they might actually be as dangerous or more dangerous than some of the drugs that are currently outlawed. But I figure the line has to be drawn somewhere. The question of whether it's in the right place is perhaps best argued by others - but to my mind it's not an important question. Alcohol and tobacco are state-sanctioned for reasons of tradition and money, and a few other drugs (like caffeine) exist that are neither taxed or forbidden. And then various drugs are forbidden for fear that a plentiful, easy supply of them would create too many addicts in our society and a dangerous trade deficit. And then, among those, may be a few that are harmless, or mostly harmless. Maybe the advocates of these are right and they should be legalized - but it's not a terribly important change. People who involve themselves with these drugs aren't just criminals because there's a law against what they're doing, they're criminals because they've chosen to break that law, and in the case of dealers, growers, importers, and such they've profited from the fact that legitimate business can't compete with them. They've profited from the fact that what they're doing is illegal (which limits supply, increasing prices). You live by the sword, you die by the sword, that's how it works, so I don't have sympathy for dealers, importers, etc. who have suddenly found the illegality of what they do inconvenient.
Now, supposing pot were legalized - would American society decay into ruin? Would the US experience a huge trade deficit and decline in power, and be destroyed by the enemies it made while powerful? I really don't think so - there'd just be another legal drug out there, and greater public nuisance from people smoking it all over the place - but what would be the positive benefit of this change? From a strictly practical standpoint I don't think there is one. I'm not satisfied that it's worthwhile to make that decision - even weighing minimal negative impact vs. minimal or no positive practical impact and a gain in personal liberty. Is it a good thing for us, as a country? Regardless of whether we have a million other bad things going on, is endorsing one more vice a good thing? I'm skeptical of that. Once we embrace it, if we later find it's a bad thing for us we may never be rid of it. It's pretty much a one-way deal - once it's legal it'll be big business, and the industries producing marijuana products will have power to protect their interests.
I would appreciate it if you (whoever the hell you are) didn't try to twist my words - if you'd like to argue that pot is less dangerous than booze, say so yourself. Don't tell me that I said it, because I didn't. But if you want to say it, you may find my mind to be more open to that possibility than you assume it is. Unless you're going for "funny" mod points (I love playing that game myself) this is also a much more productive way to proceed.
---GEC
I'm but the humble pupil, seeking to snatch the scratchbuilt pebble from the master's fully articulated hand
Actually, the gate that closed the road had been vandalized (lock/chain cut) and the road was therefore marked "open" when it had actually been closed. I dare say that most of us would have been caught in the same trap. :-(
You're confusing two closed roads.
Apparently he went past two signs at the start of the first closed road, then removed the rock barriers indicating the road was closed, and drove on.
It was when he finally decided that this wasn't going to work and attempted to retrace his path that he took a wrong turn at the vandalized gate and ended up on a second closed road forking off the first rather than back the main road. It was on this second road where he got stuck.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
right in the middle of a bitter divorce. It just looks bad for Hans, but without a body, proving murder could prove problematic.
Oh, really?
Never had oral or anal sex? The standard joke here is that you're asking this question on Slashdot, where clearly nobody has ever had any sex at all.
But these aren't the laws we were talking about, and the sodomy laws have already been struck down (sanity prevails!) - and I don't think it's a good analogy anyway. The practical implications of drugs are greater than those for consentual sex.
I accept the idea of a "war on drugs" primarily on the premise that plentiful supply of potent recreational drugs is detrimental to our society as a whole
I don't. That's not the reason for it anyway. It's a moral crusade, organized by the relgion (specifically methodist temperance), women's groups who want to dictate how people live, and opportunistic slimeballs like Hurst and every president since Nixon.
You accept denying marijuana to terminally ill people in states where it is legal? I don't buy your claim that it's a "moral crusade" - more likely that angle is being used to persuade people to support the agenda (which is still wrong, IMO) but I don't at all buy your theory that this is the real reason why some drugs are illegal.
And I never said anything about terminally ill people, did I? What you're doing here is trying to change the issue - recreational drugs vs. prescription drugs - and trying to suggest that anyone who believes that the War On Some Drugs may not be a bad thing is happy to see an old lady in pain rather than see her using marijuana.
Now, since you've asked the question: do I accept denying marijuana to someone who was granted the right to use it for medical purposes by her state government? No. It was a prescription, the rules for recreational drugs don't apply. Cultivation (as allowed under the California law) is a little more problematic - you've got federal law saying posession and cultivation is illegal and that it is to be forcibly repressed, and you've got California law saying posession and cultivation is legal for medicinal purposes - but privately grown marijuana can't be tracked or regulated. I think the proper compromise would be for medicinal usage to be legal, but with the limitation that it must be acquired through a pharmacy, as is the case with other prescription drugs. It sucks to have to pay more for no good reason, but when you're balancing conflicting interests, it's unreasonable to not make some kind of compromise.
But what's "right" and how does that correlate to what's "legal"? Is the government's destruction of the plants "right" just because it's "legal"? Is the woman's use of marijuana "right" just by virtue of the fact that it's "legal"? Or "wrong" because the federal government contends that it should be illegal? To me the question of whether it's "right" to allow or prohibit marijuana as a recreational drug is entirely subjective. Whether it's a good idea from a practical standpoint is debatable. Whether it's legal is fairly unambiguous.
Likewise, for marijuana as a prescription drug - whether it's "legal" is essentially still in contention due to the conflict surrounding it. Is it "right"? I think so. But considering the level of contention around the drug, the way it's being handled is way out of line with how other prescription drugs are managed. Telling people to go ahead and grow their own is downright irresponsible when there's a conflicting federal law saying that that's illegal. That's not necessarily a bad thing, if it gives people on either side the chance to make their contention in a way that actually has the potential to change the status quo - but for the people growing and using medical marijuana, to get caught up in the middle of that conflict is rather unfortunate.
---GEC
I'm but the humble pupil, seeking to snatch the scratchbuilt pebble from the master's fully articulated hand
This place is so full of wankers these days, it's not even worth responding.
I pity Hans if he has you lot as a jury. (guilty or otherwise).Thank you media for not blowing this up to Scott Peterson level. This just goes to show you that stuff like this happens all the time that never gets seen in national media.
This is being blown up in the media, the nerd media. Slashdot is convering this just like the TV media covered OJ. Exact same reason, a "famous" suspect with respect to the demographics of the audience.
Hans Reiser has pled not guilty to murdering his wife and invoked his right to a speedy trial.
Ironically, his alleged alibi is that he was busy murdering Linux at the time.
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
wooosh
And remember, "Hans shot first!"
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Your conclusions and even your data are ALL wrong. First the media has paid that much attention to this one. In addition, I have seen attention paid to Bill Cosby's son death, and family members of sports players and deaths of politicians relatives. And these were minorities. I have also seen pregnant minority women being brought up when they were missing (and not just dead). As it is, I have heard NOTHING out here about nina except via /. The simple answer is that race does not hold the media's interest, but money and family. To even bring up the race card DOES make you a racist b#$%^&d and you need some serious psychiatric help.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
..., do you?
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Recall the case of Chandra Levy, once an intern working for former Congressman Condit. When she vanished, many people had no problem believing she had been murdered, and thinking up motives Condit might have for doing it, with the most popular being so that she couldn't talk about the affair he had with her. Circumstantial evidence started pouring out, and things were looking very bad for Condit for a while. Condit lost the next election, but was never arrested or charged, and a year later they found Levy's remains, which enabled them to come up with scenarios that happened not to involve Condit at all. Last I recall, the most likely perpetrator is thought to be a particular thug who was in the area at the time.
Maybe Reiser has stronger motives. Maybe the reason no body has been found is that Reiser is too smart to slip up that way. Talk about having a geek reputation come back to haunt someone! If he's so smart, wouldn't he have thought of other ways out of his difficulties? Smart enough to get away with murder (maybe) but not smart enough to think of other actions that would serve his purposes, or realize how just the suspicion of murder would trouble him for years even if it was never pinned on him? Doesn't add up. Maybe Nina went for a jog and some random criminal did it. We don't know. The state arresting Reiser without better evidence is looking like a mistake. Either they're needlessly harassing an innocent, or they're blowing their chance to put the murderer away.
Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
Pressing murder charges when there's no body for evidence? How retarded are they?
1. No body found; no reasonable and rational way to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that alleged victim is dead, let alone has been murdered.
2. No proof of person being dead = no proof beyond a reasonable doubt that defendant murdered alleged victim.
3. Defendant found not guilty (or court systems proven to be corrupt), and is from then on protected against double jeopardy in the event that a body does turn up.
But whose reason will you accept to acquit them of murder? Yours "he tore my heart open and destroyed my happiness" or the deranged "he was using microwave transmitters into my brain to take over my mind"? In other words, what sounds reasonable to you might not sound reasonable to other people. And we were talking about feelings to justify murder, feelings are always private.
But can you give me one good reason why somebody convicted *beyond any doubt* (not just "reasonable doubt") of multiple murders should ever be allowed to live afterwards? And why I would not be justified in calling for their execution?
1) because your prospective victim is human.
I don't think I am alone in this, some religion even made it one of it's commandments.
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