As many people dislike being spied on without an accesiible opt out for non IT experts, they dislike not having easy and proper control over the installed updates, and they most definitely do not like the idea of RENTING an OS.
The number of people who use Google and FaceBook would seem to refute your statement...
Also, who is renting their OS? I think you have some imagined idea of Windows that doesn't exist for normal people...
Programs run "native" with Wine. A simple explanation is that executables compiled as Windows PE binaries instead of Linux ELF just need a different loader to initialize a process and look up dependencies and Wine tries to implement both the loader and most dependencies. That it calls into a Linux kernel instead of an NT kernel is an implementation detail most processes don't care about.
Don't be shocked, but I know that, hence the "or whatever you want to call it" comment...
The problem is... it works until it doesn't... It works until an update breaks it... Then you have no support if it doesn't work...
Yea, sorry, I have real work to do, I can't afford to hope it all works out somehow... Remind me who I call for support if Adobe Premiere Pro has an issue on Linux under Wine?
However if you need to run an office suite that includes a text processor, spreadsheet, presentation and vector drawing, and a photo editing software, then the suggestion of GP is not without merit.
There is a difference between having a "text processor" and Microsoft Word, those two aren't interchangeable...
Then there is "photo editing software", and then there is Adobe Photoshop, again, not the same thing...
For just changing and making adjustments to images, there are a thousand free programs for that. Those programs don't do what Photoshop is really used for however...
Many people replied, most were just silly MS hate...
The suggestion of Wine is not a useful one, running applications like Office and Adobe CC in an emulator (or whatever you want to call it) vs the native OS is not likely to be a great experience.
Why bother, when Windows works fine?
The MS hate here is silly, Windows has issues, but so does Linux, neither are perfect...
Older workers tend to get paid more and have higher health insurance costs. It's probably more about the wage than the age.
Yes, but older workers bring experience to the job that younger workers don't have...
I myself am willing to pay older employees more for that experience. A 50 year old developer who indicates that he/she is willing to continue to learn and improve themselves is a valuable thing to me.
I have hired 65 year olds who want to keep working part time and are bored with retirement...
It's really just this defeatist attitude that keeps the two party system alive in a society with this much access to information and cheap outreach to constituencies.
No, it is totally understanding what the current system is...
If you don't understand our election system, I can't help you...
We have a two party system because it is designed to be a two party system...
Abraham Lincoln was almost a third party president, he ran as a Republican as the Whig party imploded. If the Tea Party aligned with the Libertarians, we'd have almost a similar situation with the Republicans; Gary Johnson was a Republican at one time.
Yes, and we had Ross Perot in 1992, look how that worked out...
All it did was tilt the balance of the election which is why it hasn't happened again...
In our election system, a third party is just a spoiler, which is why people vote against the other side as much as for their own side...
If that were the sort of Law of Nature you seem to be asserting it is, we'd still have the Federalist and Whig parties.
The Federalist and Whig parties were how many again?
Right...
Tell me all the times when we had three parties putting forward a serious contender for President?
There might have been once... a long time ago...
A "First Past the Post" election system will always end up with two parties. It doesn't matter who those two parties are, it will always be two...
If you think the Green party or Libertarian Party have any chance of replacing the D or R teams, you're crazy, but even if they did, they would just turn into the D or R team, they'd have to... The viewpoints of the G and L teams are not a major part of the US population...
And if Linux or OS X works for you, that is fine as well...
Honestly, I'd like to see real competition in the OS dept, it would do all of us, including MS some good...
But I see OS X being the real chance to have it, not Linux, for many reasons which have nothing to do with tech and everything to do with marketing, business, sales, and who has what incentive to promote things...
If Apple, now that Steve is gone, would change direction (it isn't the 90s anymore when they did it last time) and licence OS X to everyone, they could have a real shot at it...
But as someone who is in a firmly Trump state, I'll be voting for a third party candidate. If we can't get at least one of the parties to gasp that someone could challenge them this year, we are pretty much doomed to take whatever they will give us.
That doesn't matter and doesn't help...
We have a "First Past the Post" election system, you'll never get a third party without changing the system...
As a counter for all the MS hate around here and all the Linux fans who think it will be taking over the world someday soon...
Windows 10 works just fine, I have it installed on over 20 computers, I've installed it on many more, it works very well...
I used Windows 7 the other day, it felt old all of a sudden, amazing when it felt so new just 7 years ago, but it is now out of date and the idea of staying on Win 7/8.1 is just not reasonable anymore...
Yes, you can use Linux if you want to, it has a purpose, but it won't be replacing Windows as the mass market desktop OS, well... ever...
Something else might, OS X could if Apple would licence it for use on other computers besides Macs, but really there isn't anything else for the mass market...
Keeping that quiet and making sure it isn't linked back to you is harder than you think... It only takes one mistake...
And nuclear materials are the sort of thing you can use in that way, all refined uranium and plutonium has a signature, it wouldn't be hard to figure out what nation made it.
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You think that Windows is installed on a billion computers and doesn't work fine?
I think I spotted the flaw in your point...
As many people dislike being spied on without an accesiible opt out for non IT experts, they dislike not having easy and proper control over the installed updates, and they most definitely do not like the idea of RENTING an OS.
The number of people who use Google and FaceBook would seem to refute your statement...
Also, who is renting their OS? I think you have some imagined idea of Windows that doesn't exist for normal people...
MS office and photoshop lack of linux support is a fake argument and you know it.
But the vast majority of people definitely don't need ms office or photoshop at home
Running Windows at work and Linux at home is silly... Why learn two different OS? That is just more work...
You're just blindly full of MS hate to make that suggestion...
Programs run "native" with Wine. A simple explanation is that executables compiled as Windows PE binaries instead of Linux ELF just need a different loader to initialize a process and look up dependencies and Wine tries to implement both the loader and most dependencies. That it calls into a Linux kernel instead of an NT kernel is an implementation detail most processes don't care about.
Don't be shocked, but I know that, hence the "or whatever you want to call it" comment...
The problem is... it works until it doesn't... It works until an update breaks it... Then you have no support if it doesn't work...
Yea, sorry, I have real work to do, I can't afford to hope it all works out somehow... Remind me who I call for support if Adobe Premiere Pro has an issue on Linux under Wine?
These are business tools, not toys...
However if you need to run an office suite that includes a text processor, spreadsheet, presentation and vector drawing, and a photo editing software, then the suggestion of GP is not without merit.
There is a difference between having a "text processor" and Microsoft Word, those two aren't interchangeable...
Then there is "photo editing software", and then there is Adobe Photoshop, again, not the same thing...
For just changing and making adjustments to images, there are a thousand free programs for that. Those programs don't do what Photoshop is really used for however...
Many people replied, most were just silly MS hate...
The suggestion of Wine is not a useful one, running applications like Office and Adobe CC in an emulator (or whatever you want to call it) vs the native OS is not likely to be a great experience.
Why bother, when Windows works fine?
The MS hate here is silly, Windows has issues, but so does Linux, neither are perfect...
How to fix your PC: http://www.ubuntu.com/download...
How do I run MS Office and Adobe CC on that?
Older workers tend to get paid more and have higher health insurance costs. It's probably more about the wage than the age.
Yes, but older workers bring experience to the job that younger workers don't have...
I myself am willing to pay older employees more for that experience. A 50 year old developer who indicates that he/she is willing to continue to learn and improve themselves is a valuable thing to me.
I have hired 65 year olds who want to keep working part time and are bored with retirement...
Age is just a number...
It's really just this defeatist attitude that keeps the two party system alive in a society with this much access to information and cheap outreach to constituencies.
No, it is totally understanding what the current system is...
If you don't understand our election system, I can't help you...
We have a two party system because it is designed to be a two party system...
Roughly 50 Clintonian conspiracies, and so far no smoking gun.
Lots of smoking guns, like I said, the media and powerful people have covered for them...
Or are you under the delusion that it is not possible to commit crimes and get away with it if you're rich and powerful?
Evidence, please.
If you don't want to see it, nothing I type on Slashdot is going to help you...
This has been going on for 30+ years, the media and their powerful friends have covered for them...
https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo
The Problems with First Past the Post Voting Explained
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I understand you think you can fix this, but you don't understand the problem it seems... watch that, well worth your time...
Unless you change the system, nothing will change, it is working as intended...
Abraham Lincoln was almost a third party president, he ran as a Republican as the Whig party imploded. If the Tea Party aligned with the Libertarians, we'd have almost a similar situation with the Republicans; Gary Johnson was a Republican at one time.
Yes, and we had Ross Perot in 1992, look how that worked out...
All it did was tilt the balance of the election which is why it hasn't happened again...
In our election system, a third party is just a spoiler, which is why people vote against the other side as much as for their own side...
If that were the sort of Law of Nature you seem to be asserting it is, we'd still have the Federalist and Whig parties.
The Federalist and Whig parties were how many again?
Right...
Tell me all the times when we had three parties putting forward a serious contender for President?
There might have been once... a long time ago...
A "First Past the Post" election system will always end up with two parties. It doesn't matter who those two parties are, it will always be two...
If you think the Green party or Libertarian Party have any chance of replacing the D or R teams, you're crazy, but even if they did, they would just turn into the D or R team, they'd have to... The viewpoints of the G and L teams are not a major part of the US population...
Trump V Clinton is a pretty massive shock to the system.
Unless it brings the system down, it doesn't matter...
The system itself is broken...
And if Linux or OS X works for you, that is fine as well...
Honestly, I'd like to see real competition in the OS dept, it would do all of us, including MS some good...
But I see OS X being the real chance to have it, not Linux, for many reasons which have nothing to do with tech and everything to do with marketing, business, sales, and who has what incentive to promote things...
If Apple, now that Steve is gone, would change direction (it isn't the 90s anymore when they did it last time) and licence OS X to everyone, they could have a real shot at it...
But as someone who is in a firmly Trump state, I'll be voting for a third party candidate. If we can't get at least one of the parties to gasp that someone could challenge them this year, we are pretty much doomed to take whatever they will give us.
That doesn't matter and doesn't help...
We have a "First Past the Post" election system, you'll never get a third party without changing the system...
I predict that this, like the other fishing expeditions, will also show she's basically a do gooder that Republicans hate.
The FBI couldn't nail Al Capone for his crimes either, so they got him on tax evasion...
Clinton's crimes are far worse than these e-mails, but they might be what finally hangs her, or they should be...
Why would a robot factory need an owner? Taking automation to the extreme level requires no ownership since robots can make themselves.
The people in power won't let that happen, they'll start a war if they have to, to prevent it...
Or do you know nothing of history?
Nope your stuck on this ownership thing again.
How well did that whole "no one owns the land" think work out for the Native Americans?
Your ideas are silly and history shows you'll lose...
Yeah and most people don't kill their dogs now
You clearly don't know how many dogs and cats are put down every year, and yes, when dogs and cats get sick, a lot of owners DO put them down...
To who? My children, parents and grandparents don't work, They still have value to me.
To society...
Why wouldn't I own my own robot?
Because those in power won't want you to have one.
I didn't fail to notice, the argument doesn't make sense.
Of course not, because the concept is beyond your understanding, all your replies indicate that you fail to understand the situation.
You'll live in ignorance, and that is ok, most people do. :)
When horses no longer served a working purpose, they didn't go extinct.
No, they didn't, but their numbers were reduced by a lot... How many horses are kept by humans today, vs 116 years ago?
Why would we keep you around?
As a counter for all the MS hate around here and all the Linux fans who think it will be taking over the world someday soon...
Windows 10 works just fine, I have it installed on over 20 computers, I've installed it on many more, it works very well...
I used Windows 7 the other day, it felt old all of a sudden, amazing when it felt so new just 7 years ago, but it is now out of date and the idea of staying on Win 7/8.1 is just not reasonable anymore...
Yes, you can use Linux if you want to, it has a purpose, but it won't be replacing Windows as the mass market desktop OS, well... ever...
Something else might, OS X could if Apple would licence it for use on other computers besides Macs, but really there isn't anything else for the mass market...
Keeping that quiet and making sure it isn't linked back to you is harder than you think... It only takes one mistake...
And nuclear materials are the sort of thing you can use in that way, all refined uranium and plutonium has a signature, it wouldn't be hard to figure out what nation made it.
My dog lives this life now, and it looks pretty good.
Your dog does, because you provide everything it needs...
If I own the robot factory, I suppose I could provide everything you need, but in the process you'll become my pet and I'll own you...
Hey, maybe this won't be so bad, but keep in mind that your dog also doesn't have any freedom and you can kill him any time you want...
But if the reason you lose your job is that the robot is doing everything then where is the problem?
The problem is you no longer will serve a purpose, why keep you alive?
You missed the comment about the horse population peaking in 1915 and since then it has been nothing but down.
You miss how many horses were killed when they were no loner needed...
If robots do all the work then stuff should be effectively free, since there'll be no cost in making it. So we won't all need jobs.
If you don't work, what is your value?
Why should the people who own the robots give you stuff?
What you fail to notice is that you'll no longer have a purpose... why keep you around?