Does everything include nothing? You could argue about the double negatives that a "no" answer would lead to, and "yes" wouldn't make much more practical sense. It's sort of like asking if infinity If so, how does "nothing" expand? How can you describe the shape of nothing?
If it's too much trouble to think of an ever expanding universe, try thinking about an ever shrinking one. You keep the same physical space, but every object in it just keeps shrinking forever. That doesn't help you with your "outside" problem, though.
Yeah. I'll be able to play TONS of games on a BARE CPU.
Actually, I've been wondering how well it would work (not sell) a machine that has only an Opteron (or other 64-bit processor), custom motherboard, RF plug, tiny onboard memory and video memory, and an RF adapter. It could be designed to be upgraded with several plugin slots that replace most of the functions on the machine (more than just something like PCI, this would have to be considered far more bizarre than a simple PC). I wonder if at first it could be programmed to run simple things like pong and hardware upgrades could push it to games with the quality of Quake.
Perhaps it could it be made relatively cheaply by a home user (say $300 + Opteron Price).
Scientists already have the public thinking that lightning got those little proteins to turn into amino acids and to spit out a human being after a few million years so in a scientist's mind lightning as a communication medium isn't too far fetched.
Yeah, people can come up with all sorts of far-fetched ideas. That's why it's so nice that the process of science is one of self-correction. The improbable get weeded out in favor of the more probable as new ideas are tested and new data is brought to light. One of the more interesting theories that's been gaining ground is the idea that hot vents at the bottom of the ocean drove a process that created some life-like forms that continued to evolve into the many forms of life we see (and are) today.
It just takes a while for the "public" to catch on.
The only problem is that lightning never did that for amino acids because the DNA structure of all life has never been "out in the wild" to start from scratch. It was created by God who didn't need to constantly update it to see what worked best.
It was hard to tell from the article, but it seemed to imply that AMD's new instructions were included. Can you verify what those 64-bit instructions actually are?
How many times has the DoD/Space Command degraded GPS capabilities world-wide or in highly populated regions like Western Europe, China, Eastern Europe, Russia, SE Asia?
Basically the inability of the US courts to stop Microsoft from doing what they continue to do is the same as the south winning the civil war.
I'm sorry, would you care to explain this a little better? Are you trying to say that the courts failed to stop Microsoft just like the Confederacy failed to break away from the Union? Or are you saying something about how the Confederacy would have functioned if they had won? This analogy really doesn't parse well.
What does linus have to fear? Can you imagine how much legal support Linus himself would get if sco tried to sue him personally? Just for what it represents, every damn linux geek on earth would be ready to contribute to the defense fund
They'll probably all be too busy posting on Slashdot to contribute any money. But I'd imagine that 1 million slashrants are going to be a great help to Linus... er... somehow.
- Why in the world would you go "grocery shopping", in the suburban sense? Eating out is cheaper and better. Delivery takes a few minutes. Grocery shopping for most Manhattanites means "olives for the Martini" or maybe "a gourmet salad for after the show/party".
- That's what delivery and doormen are for.
- There are plenty of things that beat that, like letting other people do the work for you: delivery, handymen, restaurants, cab drivers, etc.
So you're saying that life in New York gets easier for you the less capable you are of doing simple things for yourself?
If only Bill Gates would get a bee in hif bonnet about putting a man on mars in 10 years, I would start purchasing the software put out by his company just to support the endeavor. Maybe I am a sell out...
If the trip took more than 3 months, all of the astronauts on the ship would go insane and kill each other after after Clippy popped up on screen one too many times and proclaimed "It looks like you're writing a letter!"
You're argument is flawed in that your examples are all physical objects. If I owned a car, found a way to easily duplicate it verbatim and then started giving those duplicates away I would be denying the car manufacturer money that is rightly theirs.
I'd question whether the money in my wallet is "rightly theirs" if they're not paying for the material to make those new cars. Copying only steals a potential dollar, a planned dollar. I, the hypothetical Bikke the Car Pirate, never agreed to be a potential market. I was just over a barrel to get something I needed or wanted that they had and I didn't. The entire capitalist market had its roots in physical objects, and I wonder if we're not trapped in a lower level of thinking that's holding us back as we into the information age. The typical argument is to compare between information and a physical object like a car. It's a good thought exercise to think about easily reproducable cars, because once you start thinking about hypothetical concepts such as free/instant/limitless copies of physical objects you can no longer analogize back to the real world of physical copies to prove a point using "obvious" logic.
Granted, they won't make any more money on that car design when people already have a car and don't need to buy new ones. The car manufacturer is helplessly reliant upon that potential dollar.
Why should you get the benefit of someone's hard work and effort without paying them any compensation[?]
Considering that most people aren't going to follow that line of reasoning, opting instead for the much more persuasive "I want it, gimme" approach, our society might need to accept that arguments like yours won't have much impact and divert some effort into finding new ways for people to make money off of their non-physical hard work. Perhaps governments could track how much each IP product is copied in the free sea of information and then award annual royalties to the IP owners ( who are less and less frequently the creators, yaaay corporations:p ) from taxes taken from everybody. It's a concept that I find both horrifying and intriguing. Look at how Canada has a $1 fee on CD-Roms to compensate music companies. We already seem to be traveling in that direction.
There is no way you can justify it.
At least not to people on the other side of the fence.
- In a democracy without human rights, 51% of the
people can vote to legally kill the other 49%. Don't equate the two!
Hmmm. But in a dictatorship it only takes one person to legally kill 49% of the population: the dictator and his decree.
Of course. A dictatorship, almost certainly by definition has no guarantee on human rights (such as being allowed to live). Anyway, was there some kind of point you were trying to make? I didn't catch it.
Actually you can, it's called proof by contradiction. You assume something is true, then reach a contradiction therefore it must not be true.
Well, something else here. I could be accused of eating somebody's pie and prove that I could not have eaten it by showing that someone else did. "See? The security camera shows that Bob ate that pie."
Unfortunatey, there were no security cameras at the beginning of time.:p Well, there might have been, I can't disprove that negative.
On a sidenote, can the bulletproof vest stop a lance (I was going to say sword but I have shredded field plate with one before). No? I thought not, but then again it wasn't ment to.
And then again, when tipped with Depleted Uranium and fired from a launcher at 1,000 MPH, both seem rather useless, huh?
Heh. If Lindows were to find a way to drop the price by $100, move the other USB ports to the front, seal up the box and ship it with a controller, they'd have their own console. Microsoft did it, why can't Lindows?
Again, the reporter simply asserts, with no sourcing that US troops are `shooting anything that moves' and are `shellshocked'. Given that the report is made from an area where there have been widespread incidences of Fedayeen Saddam militias shooting into crowds of civilians trying to get to US troops or to get out of the cities.
Nor does the reporter say that he is embedded with this unit, or has talked to anyone in it but two privates in the scene -- where do you draw this conclusion from?
Now that I look back at the article, it was staring me right in the face.
As I walked away, Lieutenant Matt Martin, whose third child, Isabella, was born while he was on board ship en route to the Gulf, appeared beside me.
"Did you see all that?" he asked, his eyes filled with tears. "Did you see that little baby girl? I carried her body and buried it as best I could but I had no time. It really gets to me to see children being killed like this, but we had no choice."
This, the description that I gave above, and the idea that I'm not willing to believe that Americans are above accidental killing. That's why I think this happened the way the reporter described it. It sounds more like a story of a young soldier who fired thinking it was an Iraqi attack than someone merely regretting seeing the bodies of children. "Shooting at anything that moves" may have been an exaggeration that angered you, but if this is what really happened in this situation I think it is an appropriate description.
Uh-huh. And given the dozens of reports, even in the Middle Eastern media, of Iraqi Fedayeen militias firing on Iraqi civilians who tried to leave cities, how do you know that these were shot by US Marines?
These particular civilians, this particular story? Well, the reporter was stationed with U.S. troops and talked to those around him who had some semblence of an idea what had happened there. If there had been any mystery over what had happened there (and if there was some sort of cover-up attempted, that's what the reporter would have been told, that it was unknown who did it or believed that Iraqi fighters did it) the reporter would have reported it as such. At least you would expect so. There isn't any detail over whether the reporter arrived with new troops to be with troops already there or whether the reporter had arrived with troops who found that scene.
It was a strategically important bridge, right? The US/UK troops would had to have been in control before the event happened, or there would have been a recent battle for the bridge while the 12 bodies were still lying there. There was no mention of a recent battle in the article.
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Whats the technical definition of a universe?
Everything.
Does it include the voids?
Does everything include nothing? You could argue about the double negatives that a "no" answer would lead to, and "yes" wouldn't make much more practical sense. It's sort of like asking if infinity If so, how does "nothing" expand? How can you describe the shape of nothing?
If it's too much trouble to think of an ever expanding universe, try thinking about an ever shrinking one. You keep the same physical space, but every object in it just keeps shrinking forever. That doesn't help you with your "outside" problem, though.
Yeah. I'll be able to play TONS of games on a BARE CPU.
Actually, I've been wondering how well it would work (not sell) a machine that has only an Opteron (or other 64-bit processor), custom motherboard, RF plug, tiny onboard memory and video memory, and an RF adapter. It could be designed to be upgraded with several plugin slots that replace most of the functions on the machine (more than just something like PCI, this would have to be considered far more bizarre than a simple PC). I wonder if at first it could be programmed to run simple things like pong and hardware upgrades could push it to games with the quality of Quake.
Perhaps it could it be made relatively cheaply by a home user (say $300 + Opteron Price).
Oh yeah, something else. That would be a few billion (not million) years between when life started and today.
Scientists already have the public thinking that lightning got those little proteins to turn into amino acids and to spit out a human being after a few million years so in a scientist's mind lightning as a communication medium isn't too far fetched.
h tml
Yeah, people can come up with all sorts of far-fetched ideas. That's why it's so nice that the process of science is one of self-correction. The improbable get weeded out in favor of the more probable as new ideas are tested and new data is brought to light. One of the more interesting theories that's been gaining ground is the idea that hot vents at the bottom of the ocean drove a process that created some life-like forms that continued to evolve into the many forms of life we see (and are) today.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/abyss/life/extremes.
It just takes a while for the "public" to catch on.
The only problem is that lightning never did that for amino acids because the DNA structure of all life has never been "out in the wild" to start from scratch. It was created by God who didn't need to constantly update it to see what worked best.
I personally don't see why any god would need to.
It was hard to tell from the article, but it seemed to imply that AMD's new instructions were included. Can you verify what those 64-bit instructions actually are?
How many times has the DoD/Space Command degraded GPS capabilities world-wide or in highly populated regions like Western Europe, China, Eastern Europe, Russia, SE Asia?
More importantly, could it?
Basically the inability of the US courts to stop Microsoft from doing what they continue to do is the same as the south winning the civil war.
I'm sorry, would you care to explain this a little better? Are you trying to say that the courts failed to stop Microsoft just like the Confederacy failed to break away from the Union? Or are you saying something about how the Confederacy would have functioned if they had won? This analogy really doesn't parse well.
What does linus have to fear? Can you imagine how much legal support Linus himself would get if sco tried to sue him personally? Just for what it represents, every damn linux geek on earth would be ready to contribute to the defense fund
They'll probably all be too busy posting on Slashdot to contribute any money. But I'd imagine that 1 million slashrants are going to be a great help to Linus... er... somehow.
Thanks for answering. That sounds like a good answer to add to your FAQ!
Re: Your sig...
Build an internet incorruptible by corps and goverments. MetaNET
How exactly is this different from Freenet?
- Why in the world would you go "grocery shopping", in the suburban sense? Eating out is cheaper and better. Delivery takes a few minutes. Grocery shopping for most Manhattanites means "olives for the Martini" or maybe "a gourmet salad for after the show/party".
- That's what delivery and doormen are for.
- There are plenty of things that beat that, like letting other people do the work for you: delivery, handymen, restaurants, cab drivers, etc.
So you're saying that life in New York gets easier for you the less capable you are of doing simple things for yourself?
If only Bill Gates would get a bee in hif bonnet about putting a man on mars in 10 years, I would start purchasing the software put out by his company just to support the endeavor. Maybe I am a sell out...
If the trip took more than 3 months, all of the astronauts on the ship would go insane and kill each other after after Clippy popped up on screen one too many times and proclaimed "It looks like you're writing a letter!"
You're argument is flawed in that your examples are all physical objects. If I owned a car, found a way to easily duplicate it verbatim and then started giving those duplicates away I would be denying the car manufacturer money that is rightly theirs.
:p ) from taxes taken from everybody. It's a concept that I find both horrifying and intriguing. Look at how Canada has a $1 fee on CD-Roms to compensate music companies. We already seem to be traveling in that direction.
I'd question whether the money in my wallet is "rightly theirs" if they're not paying for the material to make those new cars. Copying only steals a potential dollar, a planned dollar. I, the hypothetical Bikke the Car Pirate, never agreed to be a potential market. I was just over a barrel to get something I needed or wanted that they had and I didn't. The entire capitalist market had its roots in physical objects, and I wonder if we're not trapped in a lower level of thinking that's holding us back as we into the information age. The typical argument is to compare between information and a physical object like a car. It's a good thought exercise to think about easily reproducable cars, because once you start thinking about hypothetical concepts such as free/instant/limitless copies of physical objects you can no longer analogize back to the real world of physical copies to prove a point using "obvious" logic.
Granted, they won't make any more money on that car design when people already have a car and don't need to buy new ones. The car manufacturer is helplessly reliant upon that potential dollar.
Why should you get the benefit of someone's hard work and effort without paying them any compensation[?]
Considering that most people aren't going to follow that line of reasoning, opting instead for the much more persuasive "I want it, gimme" approach, our society might need to accept that arguments like yours won't have much impact and divert some effort into finding new ways for people to make money off of their non-physical hard work. Perhaps governments could track how much each IP product is copied in the free sea of information and then award annual royalties to the IP owners ( who are less and less frequently the creators, yaaay corporations
There is no way you can justify it.
At least not to people on the other side of the fence.
My mother refuses to use Mozilla on her box, so I downloaded the IE theme - work's a treat.
Doesn't the lizard / M flashing in the upper right corner give it away? I didn't think that skins could get rid of that.
Not that I don't enjoy accidentally clicking on that M now and then and being taken to a webpage I didn't want to visit...
Which is roughly what I got from your tagline... what point are you trying to make?
I've talked to people who think democracy guarantees human rights. It doesn't. The meaning of my sig is exactly as it reads.
That's dissapointing. No Bitstream Vera Mono w/ serif?
- In a democracy without human rights, 51% of the
people can vote to legally kill the other 49%. Don't equate the two!
Hmmm. But in a dictatorship it only takes one person to legally kill 49% of the population: the dictator and his decree.
Of course. A dictatorship, almost certainly by definition has no guarantee on human rights (such as being allowed to live). Anyway, was there some kind of point you were trying to make? I didn't catch it.
Actually you can, it's called proof by contradiction. You assume something is true, then reach a contradiction therefore it must not be true.
:p Well, there might have been, I can't disprove that negative.
Well, something else here. I could be accused of eating somebody's pie and prove that I could not have eaten it by showing that someone else did. "See? The security camera shows that Bob ate that pie."
Unfortunatey, there were no security cameras at the beginning of time.
On a sidenote, can the bulletproof vest stop a lance (I was going to say sword but I have shredded field plate with one before). No? I thought not, but then again it wasn't ment to.
And then again, when tipped with Depleted Uranium and fired from a launcher at 1,000 MPH, both seem rather useless, huh?
Also, I think its funny you mention a CAD program that you can't verify as far as status because the site is down.
;)
I think it's funny that the site was down because he mentioned it here on Slashdot.
You know, there are Alternatives if you don't like Slashdot's posters.
Or hey, you know what? Stay away from the internet for the rest of the day. Take a walk! It's beautiful outside where I am! Think I'll do that now.
Heh. If Lindows were to find a way to drop the price by $100, move the other USB ports to the front, seal up the box and ship it with a controller, they'd have their own console. Microsoft did it, why can't Lindows?
:)
Better yet, make an XBOX clone.
Nor does the reporter say that he is embedded with this unit, or has talked to anyone in it but two privates in the scene -- where do you draw this conclusion from?
Now that I look back at the article, it was staring me right in the face.
This, the description that I gave above, and the idea that I'm not willing to believe that Americans are above accidental killing. That's why I think this happened the way the reporter described it. It sounds more like a story of a young soldier who fired thinking it was an Iraqi attack than someone merely regretting seeing the bodies of children. "Shooting at anything that moves" may have been an exaggeration that angered you, but if this is what really happened in this situation I think it is an appropriate description.
Uh-huh. And given the dozens of reports, even in the Middle Eastern media, of Iraqi Fedayeen militias firing on Iraqi civilians who tried to leave cities, how do you know that these were shot by US Marines?
These particular civilians, this particular story? Well, the reporter was stationed with U.S. troops and talked to those around him who had some semblence of an idea what had happened there. If there had been any mystery over what had happened there (and if there was some sort of cover-up attempted, that's what the reporter would have been told, that it was unknown who did it or believed that Iraqi fighters did it) the reporter would have reported it as such. At least you would expect so. There isn't any detail over whether the reporter arrived with new troops to be with troops already there or whether the reporter had arrived with troops who found that scene.
It was a strategically important bridge, right? The US/UK troops would had to have been in control before the event happened, or there would have been a recent battle for the bridge while the 12 bodies were still lying there. There was no mention of a recent battle in the article.
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