Thirty years ago or more, when all cars were equally stealable, you could charge the same theft premium for all of them because they were all equally easy to steal and there is a relatively fixed amount of theft in total.
The theft premium was always proportional to the value of the vehicle, not a flat rate.
You might be able to get "legal minimum" or "third-party and fire" insurance for your keyless car, but the threat from the insurance companies is that of simply refusing to accept any new (or renewed) insurance on these vehicles, making it impossible to legally drive them on the public highway.
Under British driving laws, insurance against injuring other people is mandatory. And this "third party" leg of the insurance is the largest chunk of the insurance cost. You can choose to vary if you have insurance against fire, or theft, with varying levels of excess, but you've got to have the "third party" insurance.
In a few months short of 25 years of driving, I've driven vehicles with an automatic gear box on approximately 5 occasions, totalling perhaps 100 miles. I've owned 8 or 9 cars, and not one of them has been an automatic.
You are probably not reading the article : this is about a British system, so British law applies, not the law of whichever country you're anonymously cowarding in.
In Britain, unless you're the government, if you do not have insurance for your vehicle it is (1) illegal to have it on the public road, stationary or static.
(2) illegal to drive it on the public road
Questions of car loans or cash purchases are not relevant. Consider someone who owns, outright one of these vehicles. Tomorrow is the day that your vehicle insurance is due for renewal (for driving - British vehicle insurance doesn't necessarily cover theft or damage, they're extras to the legal minimum requirements). So, you grip your credit card in one hand and telephone the insurance company to pay for another year (or month) of insurance.
And the insurance company say "we don't want your business". And every other insurance company also refuses to take your money.
You now have a car which you still own. But you can't drive it - legally - and you can't even leave it immobile on the public highway. Nor can you pay tax on it (which also means that you have got to take it off the public highway). Oh - you can move it between pieces of private ground on a properly insured vehicle - flatbed or trailer. If that's any use to you.
I've never been a fan of the keyless car design. But if I wanted a new car, I had little choice.
There is really that little choice of vehicles in your country?
I didn't think that North Korea had Internet access.
Actually, we were car shopping a couple of weeks back, so I'm just slightly more interested in vehicles at the moment than I am normally. I'd better do some checking, just in case - by accident - I've ordered such a car. The idea never occurred to me, because the vehicle we test-drove used keys.
Tum-te-googly-tum... foreign safety kit - not a worthwhile deal as it doesn't include a fire extinguisher... oh, poofs!! It's got a "hill hold function" - what am I going to do with my left foot now?... but no mention of keyless locking at all on that range.. Good. I'll double check, but that looks good. No sign of this being a problem we'll have to attend to for the next cycle, and I'll try to remember for the next vehicle cycle too. Maybe the bugs will be squashed by 2020.
You don't have a license because you don't know how to drive, or because you've been ordered to stop driving by the courts? In the first case, you're a dangerous lunatic who should be locked up and hit with heavy drugs until your stupidity is cured (or you're a vegetable, whichever comes sooner, or is cheaper - probably the vegetable option). In the second case, you'd have been arrested as soon as you took control of the vehicle (by sitting in the drivers seat, and often the police could get sufficient evidence to do you for simply opening the car door).
I only use M$ at work, and for the wife's box. I don't know,or want to know, Win8. All my clients are simply going to skip the 8 generation. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Amongst the mountaineering and seafaring communities he's as often remembered as the leader who killed his team through inadequate planning, in contrast to Shackleton who brought his men back, despite a considerably more technically difficult expedition.
Why are you thinking of a human/ arachnid hybrid as having gold-coloured blood?
Humans (and other vertebrates) have an oxygen-carrying compound called haemoglobin, which changes from a reddish colour when oxygenated to a bluish colour when deoxygenated. Arachnids (mites, spiders, scorpions) on the other hand use a compound called haemocyanin, which is bluish when oxygenated and colourless when deoxygenated. So a hybrid would have blood varying from a dark purple to a bluish colour depending on which side of the circulatory system you're looking at (if the hybrid has a circulatory system which we'd recognise at all.
That's 0.00025 Myr. A truly negligible period of time, you short-viewed non-geologist insensitive clod.
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Well, that was a waste of time, wasn't it. Or do you mean a special sort of love involving chains and metal probes? And lubrication - lots of lubrication carefully kept sealed in it's pots and tubes.
Right or wrong, he's a dead man. Once the American authorities get hold of him, he's dead. whether it be by a trip down a flight of stairs, a convenient fellow-prisoner, or some other method doesn't matter ; he's going to die in custody. "Pour," in the words of Voltaire, "encourager les auteres."
Of course, if they get him without being seen to do so in public, then he may have a longer life, if less pleasant. But his head is still going to go on that metaphorical spike above the gate to the town. See above Voltaire quote again.
Who designed this iteration of the mobile interface - I can't read the message I'm replying to. designed for posting bullshit, not content.
Every Intranet I've ever used.
The norm is that if we have access to the cliient's intranet, then it will be by taking data on $device$ to an employee, who posts it for us. Since each site gets rigged up and torn down several times a year, that's the level of contact that the client wants with their IT systems. Data comes in to them through a sheep-dip machine, or through email. Data comes to us on $device$ or by email, and we process it on our machine, then send the analyses on down the line.
Being given access to a client's internal network is pretty uncommon - that's restricted to client employees, if there are any on the job.
Actually, my current job has given me a client computer and smart card for accessing it. Of course, I don't have VPN access to the client's network, so every week or so I need to go to a local office (I'm lucky, it's an hour on the bus for me; for my opposite shift man, it's a full day of travel.) to wire the machine in, log in, then sit through several hours of downloads and re-boots. It's their global-follow-the-sun system, and since they pay the invoices, they get to choose through which hoops we jump. They pay for our time to jump through their hoops.
What storage and collaboration systems they have on their intranet, we're not told (we're not actually told about the intranet either, I deduce it'ls existance). It seems to be a total mess of three different, overlapping or competing systems, and in the words of one of my supervisors "I choose not to fight those battles". One of the complications that I do see wash-back from is whether the information I provide has a US stock effect, or not (in which case, unimaginable consequences happen ; I just avoid those areas. Client's problem, not mine.)
Everyone was also denied local admin to their own machine
Which is the norm. It took me three years after my employer (1) stopped sending us on jobs with our own printer and (2) locked us to a non-admin account ; to persuade them to allow us to install printer drivers for whatever we found on the site, when we got there. I'd just rape the machine with an NTpsswdCRACK (or whatever it was called ; Petter's Norwegian root/boot CD) and blank the Admin password. Then tell them about it before I got back to the office continent. I don't like raping other people's machines, but if I need to ("NEED"), I'll do it. Many jobs, it was sufficient to make a PDF document and email/ print that.
I suppose that if you use a network at work (I don't, basically) you migt ave more problems. But most jobs don't need network access. Well... I suppose it depends - are you a source of data, or do you have to interact with people other than telling them what is happening?
I should point out that I use the RS catalog purely because it's well-known and they're not too snotty about setting up small accounts. Or, if you're within reach of one of their trade counters, paying cash on the nail and collecting. There are others who are often somewhat cheaper. When specifying jobs like this, a morning of shopping can often lead to a saving of the whole cost of your day's searching. And you can often get another few percent of savings by taking the shopping list to a local electronics factor who can probably negotiate a bulk-saving from appropriate manufacturers and cut RS (Farnell, whoever) out of the loop altogether.
Being in oil-and-gas country, we've got a choice of such experienced factors locally. you may need to contact... well, you know your area's business specialities. People who install petrol stations have to deal with ExE electricals all the time ; try them.
Drinky is right : the first important question is budget.
I routinely work with PC-like systems that go to 3km water depth (on Remote Operated Vehicles). I routinely work with systems that work in atmospheres where explosive gas compositions are present in normal operations (that's as severe if not more severe a problem then your "water jet" problem). The budget is everything.
The trivial answer to "a PC that can resist a water jet" is "buy an IP67 or IP68 junction box and build it in that. Ours cost about £5000 a piece, and another couple of thousand for the equipment to go inside, then 2 weeks of technician time to build everything, route the cables to the control switches. Then another couple of thousand for the testing to confirm gas tightness. Oh, and about £3000 for the purge gas control system. If you can do without the ExD / ExE certification, then you should be able to get some change out of ten thousand quid.
You're implying that the PC interacts with a human who is also exposed to the high-pressure water jet. Your health and safety risk analysis is likely to have flagged this as a point where you're really at risk of criminal charges if anything goes wrong and one of your employees gets hurt by the water jet, let alone it's interaction with the mains power in the PC.
If your human is elsewhere, or the interaction doesn't have to be highly direct, then it will be far and away simpler, and much cheaper, to move the PC out of the wet and hazardous zone, and into a secure cabinet somewhere. If you've got sensors / actuators that need short cables... well, there are things you can do about that. I've spent the thick end of thirty years going out to oil rigs at irregular intervals (irregular now, more often in the past when I'd double up as an installation technician ; small company, the technician department is 2-fold bigger now than the entire company was when I joined) to install complex arrays of sensors with VGA-SVGA displays at remote locations on the rig, sometimes in flammable gas areas, other times in safe areas. Kilometre-length cable runs are nothing unusual, when you see the routing you have to take through the maze of cable trays, transits and moving parts. With such a sketchy description, I'm really quite that you actually need to solve this "waterproof PC" problem, instead of the much simpler problem of how to connect a PC to a waterproof keyboard / touchscreen/ display / sensors unit. The problems of cabling in such areas have been solved decades ago.
You probably need to speak to someone who is a currently-ticketed instrument technician. From when I was doing this stuff regularly, I'd know there were some situations where I'd have to use these instead of these (and, of course, vice versae). But if I were working on equipment that was to be inspected by a different (foreign, American) inspection agency, neither would be acceptable and we'd have to re-gland everything. It's a minefield!
The cheap and nasty answer is to build the computer into one of these, appropriately glanded, and the display into another one, also appropriately glanded. Then put each unit into one of these , again, appropriately glanded. The outer case will be able to protect the inner case to survive the water pressures you're talking about. Won't cost much more than £1000, plus glanding. Take a day or so to put together (that's what - £400 technician time?). Not pretty. Effective.
No you're not, you're 1.956m tall and your ankles hurt if you run.
Some things are more malleable than others. By selecting only for height, the rest of your body structure is adapting at a slower pace and on a more haphazard trajectory.
What, you mean this was OK in 1993, but not in 1994?
Some of us were complaining about the Micro$oft Tax in the 1980s, you insensitive clod. some of us were complaining about it, and then going to bars, ordering beers, and not being asked for ID.
Whose fundamental legal principles? Do you misunderstand the concept of a sovereign nation? Each nation is different. And each nation has the right to be different, to the extent to which they can defend their difference with thermonuclear weapons. Or weaponised Ebola. Or their weapon(s) of choice.
Half of them run Windows in a VM (or otherwise emulate windows) so they can run IE, for the piles of sites written as IE-only.
I can't remember when I met a site that didn't work and told me to switch to using IE. In fact, it's pretty rare to find a site with obviously borked functionality.
Examples? Seriously, enough people use non-IE browsers (whatever it is on Macs [not used one for years] / Chrome / Firefox / Opera) and have done for getting on for a decade now that any new site has no choice but to work cross-platform.
If you're going to bring up the example of your bank, then by implication you're talking about a bank that doesn't update it's security programming for years at a stretch, and that's probably synonymous with a bank you shouldn't be trusting with your money. (I do my banking by going into the branch. It's safer and easier.)
He comes to the USA to do some installation work of the product that was developed by his team in his country. How is this at all a sane idea that he now needs to be paid something entirely different based on the country where he is doing installation rather than what his actual salary is back in the country where he was hired and where he has his actual job?
Speaking as someone who moves around the world to operate software, train users and install and maintain equipment which my company develops here in the UK, no, I don't expect my pay rate to vary much from one country to another. There are local variations (dislocation pay rates if I'm more than 2 time zones away from home, which makes contacting the wife harder ; hardship rates for when working in disease-ridden hell holes with a good chance of being killed on the way to work ; overtime rates for more than 40 days a quarter away from home) which add up to about a 30% variation in pay rate from one job to the next.
There are, however plenty of employers in this business who do deliberately hire from the cheapest countries they can, and pay discriminatorily low pay rates as they move those staff around the world. We do try to harm them, our competitors, by hiring their best staff on UK contracts. If that means that we pay them like local maharajahs, we don't care. We still hire them out at UK rates, and shipping them around the world is a negligible cost (compared to finding the right people. Why should we care which continent they live on? That would be as discriminatory as hiring a Brit and paying him on a Thai rate just because he live there with his Thai family, even if he's working in Angola.
IF the company in question is based in India and this is what they're doing, then there's no problem with that. If the company is HQ'd elsewhere, then that's the rates they should be paying their staff on.
(Incidentally, our typical working day is 16 hours for seniors, 12 hours for juniors ; that's 112 and 84 hours per week respectively ; obviously in a crisis, you do what's necessary to not die, but generally that's not more than a few days of overtime.)
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The theft premium was always proportional to the value of the vehicle, not a flat rate.
You might be able to get "legal minimum" or "third-party and fire" insurance for your keyless car, but the threat from the insurance companies is that of simply refusing to accept any new (or renewed) insurance on these vehicles, making it impossible to legally drive them on the public highway.
Under British driving laws, insurance against injuring other people is mandatory. And this "third party" leg of the insurance is the largest chunk of the insurance cost. You can choose to vary if you have insurance against fire, or theft, with varying levels of excess, but you've got to have the "third party" insurance.
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In a few months short of 25 years of driving, I've driven vehicles with an automatic gear box on approximately 5 occasions, totalling perhaps 100 miles. I've owned 8 or 9 cars, and not one of them has been an automatic.
Better not miss that payment then.
You are probably not reading the article : this is about a British system, so British law applies, not the law of whichever country you're anonymously cowarding in.
In Britain, unless you're the government, if you do not have insurance for your vehicle it is
(1) illegal to have it on the public road, stationary or static.
(2) illegal to drive it on the public road
Questions of car loans or cash purchases are not relevant. Consider someone who owns, outright one of these vehicles. Tomorrow is the day that your vehicle insurance is due for renewal (for driving - British vehicle insurance doesn't necessarily cover theft or damage, they're extras to the legal minimum requirements). So, you grip your credit card in one hand and telephone the insurance company to pay for another year (or month) of insurance.
And the insurance company say "we don't want your business". And every other insurance company also refuses to take your money.
You now have a car which you still own. But you can't drive it - legally - and you can't even leave it immobile on the public highway. Nor can you pay tax on it (which also means that you have got to take it off the public highway). Oh - you can move it between pieces of private ground on a properly insured vehicle - flatbed or trailer. If that's any use to you.
Hold on a couple of seconds while I get the microphone in position ....
OK, could you repeat that, with a good chesty "Mwahahahahahaha!" at the end. Thank'ee.
There is really that little choice of vehicles in your country?
I didn't think that North Korea had Internet access.
Actually, we were car shopping a couple of weeks back, so I'm just slightly more interested in vehicles at the moment than I am normally. I'd better do some checking, just in case - by accident - I've ordered such a car. The idea never occurred to me, because the vehicle we test-drove used keys.
Tum-te-googly-tum ... foreign safety kit - not a worthwhile deal as it doesn't include a fire extinguisher ... oh, poofs!! It's got a "hill hold function" - what am I going to do with my left foot now? ... but no mention of keyless locking at all on that range. . Good. I'll double check, but that looks good. No sign of this being a problem we'll have to attend to for the next cycle, and I'll try to remember for the next vehicle cycle too. Maybe the bugs will be squashed by 2020.
You don't have a license because you don't know how to drive, or because you've been ordered to stop driving by the courts? In the first case, you're a dangerous lunatic who should be locked up and hit with heavy drugs until your stupidity is cured (or you're a vegetable, whichever comes sooner, or is cheaper - probably the vegetable option). In the second case, you'd have been arrested as soon as you took control of the vehicle (by sitting in the drivers seat, and often the police could get sufficient evidence to do you for simply opening the car door).
I thought it was spider-goat silk.
I only use M$ at work, and for the wife's box. I don't know,or want to know, Win8. All my clients are simply going to skip the 8 generation. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Amongst the mountaineering and seafaring communities he's as often remembered as the leader who killed his team through inadequate planning, in contrast to Shackleton who brought his men back, despite a considerably more technically difficult expedition.
Why are you thinking of a human/ arachnid hybrid as having gold-coloured blood? Humans (and other vertebrates) have an oxygen-carrying compound called haemoglobin, which changes from a reddish colour when oxygenated to a bluish colour when deoxygenated. Arachnids (mites, spiders, scorpions) on the other hand use a compound called haemocyanin, which is bluish when oxygenated and colourless when deoxygenated. So a hybrid would have blood varying from a dark purple to a bluish colour depending on which side of the circulatory system you're looking at (if the hybrid has a circulatory system which we'd recognise at all.
That's 0.00025 Myr. A truly negligible period of time, you short-viewed non-geologist insensitive clod.
Well, that was a waste of time, wasn't it. Or do you mean a special sort of love involving chains and metal probes? And lubrication - lots of lubrication carefully kept sealed in it's pots and tubes.
Of course, if they get him without being seen to do so in public, then he may have a longer life, if less pleasant. But his head is still going to go on that metaphorical spike above the gate to the town. See above Voltaire quote again.
I think you've grasped the AC's point. (Though why s/he AC'd a perfectly reasonable comment, I don't understand.)
Every Intranet I've ever used.
The norm is that if we have access to the cliient's intranet, then it will be by taking data on $device$ to an employee, who posts it for us. Since each site gets rigged up and torn down several times a year, that's the level of contact that the client wants with their IT systems. Data comes in to them through a sheep-dip machine, or through email. Data comes to us on $device$ or by email, and we process it on our machine, then send the analyses on down the line.
Being given access to a client's internal network is pretty uncommon - that's restricted to client employees, if there are any on the job.
Actually, my current job has given me a client computer and smart card for accessing it. Of course, I don't have VPN access to the client's network, so every week or so I need to go to a local office (I'm lucky, it's an hour on the bus for me; for my opposite shift man, it's a full day of travel.) to wire the machine in, log in, then sit through several hours of downloads and re-boots. It's their global-follow-the-sun system, and since they pay the invoices, they get to choose through which hoops we jump. They pay for our time to jump through their hoops.
What storage and collaboration systems they have on their intranet, we're not told (we're not actually told about the intranet either, I deduce it'ls existance). It seems to be a total mess of three different, overlapping or competing systems, and in the words of one of my supervisors "I choose not to fight those battles". One of the complications that I do see wash-back from is whether the information I provide has a US stock effect, or not (in which case, unimaginable consequences happen ; I just avoid those areas. Client's problem, not mine.)
Which is the norm. It took me three years after my employer (1) stopped sending us on jobs with our own printer and (2) locked us to a non-admin account ; to persuade them to allow us to install printer drivers for whatever we found on the site, when we got there. I'd just rape the machine with an NTpsswdCRACK (or whatever it was called ; Petter's Norwegian root/boot CD) and blank the Admin password. Then tell them about it before I got back to the office continent. I don't like raping other people's machines, but if I need to ("NEED"), I'll do it. Many jobs, it was sufficient to make a PDF document and email/ print that.
I suppose that if you use a network at work (I don't, basically) you migt ave more problems. But most jobs don't need network access. Well ... I suppose it depends - are you a source of data, or do you have to interact with people other than telling them what is happening?
Intranets ... oh,I'll switch to using the tablet with a keyboard instead of the phone.
Being in oil-and-gas country, we've got a choice of such experienced factors locally. you may need to contact ... well, you know your area's business specialities. People who install petrol stations have to deal with ExE electricals all the time ; try them.
I routinely work with PC-like systems that go to 3km water depth (on Remote Operated Vehicles). I routinely work with systems that work in atmospheres where explosive gas compositions are present in normal operations (that's as severe if not more severe a problem then your "water jet" problem). The budget is everything.
The trivial answer to "a PC that can resist a water jet" is "buy an IP67 or IP68 junction box and build it in that. Ours cost about £5000 a piece, and another couple of thousand for the equipment to go inside, then 2 weeks of technician time to build everything, route the cables to the control switches. Then another couple of thousand for the testing to confirm gas tightness. Oh, and about £3000 for the purge gas control system. If you can do without the ExD / ExE certification, then you should be able to get some change out of ten thousand quid.
You're implying that the PC interacts with a human who is also exposed to the high-pressure water jet. Your health and safety risk analysis is likely to have flagged this as a point where you're really at risk of criminal charges if anything goes wrong and one of your employees gets hurt by the water jet, let alone it's interaction with the mains power in the PC.
If your human is elsewhere, or the interaction doesn't have to be highly direct, then it will be far and away simpler, and much cheaper, to move the PC out of the wet and hazardous zone, and into a secure cabinet somewhere. If you've got sensors / actuators that need short cables ... well, there are things you can do about that. I've spent the thick end of thirty years going out to oil rigs at irregular intervals (irregular now, more often in the past when I'd double up as an installation technician ; small company, the technician department is 2-fold bigger now than the entire company was when I joined) to install complex arrays of sensors with VGA-SVGA displays at remote locations on the rig, sometimes in flammable gas areas, other times in safe areas. Kilometre-length cable runs are nothing unusual, when you see the routing you have to take through the maze of cable trays, transits and moving parts. With such a sketchy description, I'm really quite that you actually need to solve this "waterproof PC" problem, instead of the much simpler problem of how to connect a PC to a waterproof keyboard / touchscreen/ display / sensors unit. The problems of cabling in such areas have been solved decades ago.
You probably need to speak to someone who is a currently-ticketed instrument technician. From when I was doing this stuff regularly, I'd know there were some situations where I'd have to use these instead of these (and, of course, vice versae). But if I were working on equipment that was to be inspected by a different (foreign, American) inspection agency, neither would be acceptable and we'd have to re-gland everything. It's a minefield!
The cheap and nasty answer is to build the computer into one of these, appropriately glanded, and the display into another one, also appropriately glanded. Then put each unit into one of these , again, appropriately glanded. The outer case will be able to protect the inner case to survive the water pressures you're talking about. Won't cost much more than £1000, plus glanding. Take a day or so to put together (that's what - £400 technician time?). Not pretty. Effective.
Some things are more malleable than others. By selecting only for height, the rest of your body structure is adapting at a slower pace and on a more haphazard trajectory.
Something for your aching back, sir?
Some of us were complaining about the Micro$oft Tax in the 1980s, you insensitive clod. some of us were complaining about it, and then going to bars, ordering beers, and not being asked for ID.
They'll get some of those famous non-US-Americans (or US-non-Americans) from Gitmo to do the job for them. With implausible deniability, of course.
Whose fundamental legal principles? Do you misunderstand the concept of a sovereign nation? Each nation is different. And each nation has the right to be different, to the extent to which they can defend their difference with thermonuclear weapons. Or weaponised Ebola. Or their weapon(s) of choice.
I can't remember when I met a site that didn't work and told me to switch to using IE. In fact, it's pretty rare to find a site with obviously borked functionality.
Examples? Seriously, enough people use non-IE browsers (whatever it is on Macs [not used one for years] / Chrome / Firefox / Opera) and have done for getting on for a decade now that any new site has no choice but to work cross-platform.
If you're going to bring up the example of your bank, then by implication you're talking about a bank that doesn't update it's security programming for years at a stretch, and that's probably synonymous with a bank you shouldn't be trusting with your money. (I do my banking by going into the branch. It's safer and easier.)
It would take a lot more than a dollar to make me watch a Beyoncé video.
Speaking as someone who moves around the world to operate software, train users and install and maintain equipment which my company develops here in the UK, no, I don't expect my pay rate to vary much from one country to another. There are local variations (dislocation pay rates if I'm more than 2 time zones away from home, which makes contacting the wife harder ; hardship rates for when working in disease-ridden hell holes with a good chance of being killed on the way to work ; overtime rates for more than 40 days a quarter away from home) which add up to about a 30% variation in pay rate from one job to the next.
There are, however plenty of employers in this business who do deliberately hire from the cheapest countries they can, and pay discriminatorily low pay rates as they move those staff around the world. We do try to harm them, our competitors, by hiring their best staff on UK contracts. If that means that we pay them like local maharajahs, we don't care. We still hire them out at UK rates, and shipping them around the world is a negligible cost (compared to finding the right people. Why should we care which continent they live on? That would be as discriminatory as hiring a Brit and paying him on a Thai rate just because he live there with his Thai family, even if he's working in Angola.
IF the company in question is based in India and this is what they're doing, then there's no problem with that. If the company is HQ'd elsewhere, then that's the rates they should be paying their staff on.
(Incidentally, our typical working day is 16 hours for seniors, 12 hours for juniors ; that's 112 and 84 hours per week respectively ; obviously in a crisis, you do what's necessary to not die, but generally that's not more than a few days of overtime.)