It does not have to be comfortable enough to breed â" or even survive â" unaided by other technology.
Then what is the advantage over living in an artificial environment in space? Apart from that of living at the bottom of a deep gravitational well? Of being, as the saying goes, a hole man?
1990 - Motorola 'Bag Phone' launched, I used an Okidata bag phone then that used, incredibly, the same removable rechargeable batter as my portable VCR.
We used those for quick install / remove data comms systems on rented rigs at about that time. We were looking for someone in the engineer's department who rode a motorbike so we could test the rumour that you could jump start a bike off a Motorola power brick.
I know it's traditional to bemoan the communal braindeath of Slashdot, but surely it's remarkably poor performance to get 100 comments and over a week into the discussion without one person bringing up Doc Daneeka's most famous line:
"That's some catch, that Catch-22," [Yossarian] observed.
"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed.
Not as badly as it gets degraded by being not frozen. Or, for the worst of all worlds, try having your sample cycle between below freezing and above freezing on a daily basis for a week or so as the winter starts to bite and the sun gets weaker. (Yes, creationist bullshitters do claim evidence for a mammoth which was frozen to death with fresh pasture in it's mouth ; even granting that for one example, the thousands of other examples cover a wide range of taphonomy. Which is a word with too many syllables for creationists.)
blood was actually flowing out of the carcass as it thawed.
Blood, or blood-stained water?
(A few weeks ago, I got a new, and painlessly sharp, bread knife. After I'd learned the hard way to always keep it in it's sheath, I went to visit the parents, including cooking their wedding anniversary dinner for them and carving the joints. The viscosity of blood is very different to that of blood-stained water, as the blood splatter in my bathroom testifies (better clean that up before someone asks awkward questions). In fact, IIRC there was a path lab test that relied o nthe viscosity of the blood - forget what it was for ; or which century it was used.)
Co-Pilot to ATC : "One of our pilots is missing!"
ATC to Co-Pilot : "Good film but what's your message?"
Co-Pilot to ATC : "Also, one of our wings is missing, and half of the fuselage. We were flying over Katla."
ATC to Co-Pilot : "Thanks for the warning. We'll try to find your bodies when it's all over."
So, a more derived (higher silica/ more viscous) magma, most likely. Implying a larger upper-crustal (5-15km depth) magma chamber for differentiation than for the other volcanoes. Interesting.
I'll keep on watching the earthquake reports. And I'll try to get the ö in jökullhlaup right more often until you get your thorn and I can type ÐÐÐÐ (Cyrillic, like:paka") without problems.
Why, I wonder, does a lot of the terminology of volcanology come from either Icelandic or Hawaiian? [Files "sigkatlr" under "ice withdrawal structure", by analogy with the well-known "salt withdrawal structures", such as the incorrectly named "Silverpit 'Impact' Structure".]
Later, when the distinction between defensive earthworks and non-defensive ones was recognised, the defensive ones were called "hill forts" (because they were mostly sited on the tops of hills) while the harder-to-understand non-defensive structures which were not on hills were called "henges".
the temples of Angkor Wat were shown to have correspondence with the constellation of Draco.
Since we know the construction date of Angkor Wat fairly well (1113 to 1175 for most of the buildings), this would predict that the constellations of the time recognised by the people of the time in the area included something substantially resembling what we call "Draco".
Oh it's a Graham Hancock book-selling idea. Enough said. Bring something useful to the table.
But so far there is no evidence there was a stone structures, especially the classic a lintel propped up on top of two stone pillars is not found.
Your "classic lintel structure" is present at approximately 0.1% of the megalithic sites in Britain, and probably lower in Europe as a whole. It is in fact an extremely rare construct.
But because the FA does not define what was "the area" they surveyed, it's difficult to discuss this...
Read the fucking paper, not the fucking cited articles, which are crap (as per normal). Page 2, the section entitled "study area" and Figure 1 (A, B, and C) on page 3.
This hypothesis predicts the presence of substantial post holes at (calculable) intervals around the inner edge of the ditch, far enough in that the spreading loads of the weight of the structure didn't push the poles radially into the ditch. (Remember "henge" = bank outside ditch ; "fortification" = bank inside ditch ; these are henges.)
I predict that any post holes found will be nearly vertical and not at an angle that would close the roof in the necessary radius given the canopy hight in nearby undisturbed forest.
When the sites are put to the spade, we'll find out who is right. I'd put my money on me, unsurprisingly.
But why would ancient hunters and farmers haul enormous stone blocks over many miles, just to make a really cool above-ground foundation for a discotheque?
The big stones 10-40 Mg) at Stonehenge were brought from the Marlborough Downs, about 20 miles away over hill and dale.
You're probably thinking of the "bluestones", brought from the Prescili Mountains of Wales about 190km to the WNW. Average weight 1-2Mg. Big difference.
With truth being stranger than fiction, these things really could have served any number of purposes that were *not* religion-centric.
Such as?
Also, why is Stonehenge (but nothing else) built on much the same plan as a contemporary roundhouse? While the hundreds of other stone circles hardly even bear comparison with the foundations of a wigwam.
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Then what is the advantage over living in an artificial environment in space? Apart from that of living at the bottom of a deep gravitational well? Of being, as the saying goes, a hole man?
We used those for quick install / remove data comms systems on rented rigs at about that time. We were looking for someone in the engineer's department who rode a motorbike so we could test the rumour that you could jump start a bike off a Motorola power brick.
Both, simultaneously. But they swapped implementations whenever the wind turned from widdershins to turnwise.
Sighs ; shakes head. O tempora, o mores!
Horrendous chaos. On a good day
Oh, sigh. So which organism are you going to lift genes from which is comfortable (i.e. can breed) at Martian temperatures and pressures?
Not as badly as it gets degraded by being not frozen. Or, for the worst of all worlds, try having your sample cycle between below freezing and above freezing on a daily basis for a week or so as the winter starts to bite and the sun gets weaker. (Yes, creationist bullshitters do claim evidence for a mammoth which was frozen to death with fresh pasture in it's mouth ; even granting that for one example, the thousands of other examples cover a wide range of taphonomy. Which is a word with too many syllables for creationists.)
Blood, or blood-stained water?
(A few weeks ago, I got a new, and painlessly sharp, bread knife. After I'd learned the hard way to always keep it in it's sheath, I went to visit the parents, including cooking their wedding anniversary dinner for them and carving the joints. The viscosity of blood is very different to that of blood-stained water, as the blood splatter in my bathroom testifies (better clean that up before someone asks awkward questions). In fact, IIRC there was a path lab test that relied o nthe viscosity of the blood - forget what it was for ; or which century it was used.)
She's a lesbian. But she likes guys to watch.
Themselves.
YOU might have a constitution that says differently, but I'm sure your government themselves want to change that inconvenient truth.
And no, I don't let the stand-alone talk to the outside world.
Well, at lest you're not an AC.
Because Mother Nature isn't a bitch, but he doesn't give a shit about any of the skin rash they've got.
Did you correct for increasing numbers of seismic stations being able to detect medium-range smaller quakes which weren't picked up in previous times?
Co-Pilot to ATC : "One of our pilots is missing!"
ATC to Co-Pilot : "Good film but what's your message?"
Co-Pilot to ATC : "Also, one of our wings is missing, and half of the fuselage. We were flying over Katla."
ATC to Co-Pilot : "Thanks for the warning. We'll try to find your bodies when it's all over."
So, a more derived (higher silica/ more viscous) magma, most likely. Implying a larger upper-crustal (5-15km depth) magma chamber for differentiation than for the other volcanoes. Interesting.
I'll keep on watching the earthquake reports. And I'll try to get the ö in jökullhlaup right more often until you get your thorn and I can type ÐÐÐÐ (Cyrillic, like :paka") without problems.
Why, I wonder, does a lot of the terminology of volcanology come from either Icelandic or Hawaiian? [Files "sigkatlr" under "ice withdrawal structure", by analogy with the well-known "salt withdrawal structures", such as the incorrectly named "Silverpit 'Impact' Structure".]
This is wrong.
"henge" = circular earthworks.
Stonehenge = circular earthworks with stones.
Later, when the distinction between defensive earthworks and non-defensive ones was recognised, the defensive ones were called "hill forts" (because they were mostly sited on the tops of hills) while the harder-to-understand non-defensive structures which were not on hills were called "henges".
Since we know the construction date of Angkor Wat fairly well (1113 to 1175 for most of the buildings), this would predict that the constellations of the time recognised by the people of the time in the area included something substantially resembling what we call "Draco".
Oh it's a Graham Hancock book-selling idea. Enough said. Bring something useful to the table.
Your "classic lintel structure" is present at approximately 0.1% of the megalithic sites in Britain, and probably lower in Europe as a whole. It is in fact an extremely rare construct.
Read the fucking paper , not the fucking cited articles, which are crap (as per normal). Page 2, the section entitled "study area" and Figure 1 (A, B, and C) on page 3.
I predict that any post holes found will be nearly vertical and not at an angle that would close the roof in the necessary radius given the canopy hight in nearby undisturbed forest.
When the sites are put to the spade, we'll find out who is right. I'd put my money on me, unsurprisingly.
The big stones 10-40 Mg) at Stonehenge were brought from the Marlborough Downs, about 20 miles away over hill and dale.
You're probably thinking of the "bluestones", brought from the Prescili Mountains of Wales about 190km to the WNW. Average weight 1-2Mg. Big difference.
By "we", do you mean the last common ancestors of us and chimpanzees, or do you men anatomically modern humans?
I suspect you mean 5kyr or 0.005Myr.
Such as?
Also, why is Stonehenge (but nothing else) built on much the same plan as a contemporary roundhouse? While the hundreds of other stone circles hardly even bear comparison with the foundations of a wigwam.
See my reply to GP about the observed foundations of Stonehenge.