It can be argued that these guys are behind "Noo Meejuh" being an everyday household concept, but I still don't have a facebook account:-)
If anything I'm surprised this hasn't happened already given the size of the company, the talent they attract, etc.
Maybe this will make them innovate and change their game a bit, but for me they seems somewhat like a one-trick-pony and G+ seems to have stolen their trick./G
The problem with this kind of tool, and really it boils down to all the increasing surveillance options available to law enforcement (trust me, my ass is fully violated, I live in the UK) - they make it trivial for anyone interested with the correct clearance to go to town and infringe on someones rights. This kind of tool rarely has the correct AAA criteria set up for it (nor does any of the increasing computerised government systems), so more and more of our personal data is being shipped wholesale, without our permission, into the hands of people who are either incompetant or not suitable to handle it.
These kind of tools need peer-review as to their use, and an accountable audit procedure.
- stuff you provide on your own network (ISP email, webspace, etc) - paths to other networks via peering agreements (IX's etc) - paths to other networks via transit providers (your so called Tier 1's)
All that is happening here is that the amount of traffic pushed over peering links is getting bigger, mainly because a switchport at an IX is way cheaper (and faster, better latency etc) than going via your transit over the internet for it.
At least, they'd recently bought them when I saw their office in 2005. So the guys complaining that Google aggressively pursued the name, well, it was already there, and was probably some kind of assertion exercise that opened up the can of worms.
Regardless of the trolling and fanboyism, I for one would like to wish him well and hope he gets better in due time. Enjoy your rest, Steve, and get well soon!
Yay misinformation. Is Best Buy participating in extortion when they say "you need to pay for this item to bring it home, or we will arrest you"? No. Why? Because it is illegal to steal. Infringing upon copyright by distributing music without permission is also illegal, and the copyright holders have every right to ask for compensation (fairly).
Biggest fallacy in all these pro-RIAA arguments. Copyright infringement is NOT theft. No matter how many times you say it.
I think the point is, and I speak for all miners everywhere, when did you ever hear of a Rich Miner? The man is a fraud! Sent from Google to steal our freedom!
To be honest, I don't think any of this is at all surprising.
Sure, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists will be able to make a new bunch of YouTube videos, but all the sane people realise that going to war was a sham anyway.
The office of the POTUS chose to ignore relevant information presented to them by other departments, and that there was some other agenda for the war in Iraq, that we are unlikely to find out for a long time if ever.
As the parent said, I think it may have more immediate implications for allies of the US who went to war based on the judgement of GWB etc. But then again, this kind of stuff on the Internets rarely gets looked at.
Speaking as a Brit who had similar bullshitting fed to them by our own Government regarding this issue...
or just place it under the roof. They sell purpose-made fiberglass roof tiles that will match the existing ones after a little creative weathering, and are microwave transparent. mod that bad boy up. microwave transparent tile & dish is clearly the correct answer to the question.
This just isn't the case. Most enterprises don't care as you can't enforce windows-style user permissions and roles. That's what auditors care about as well as enterprise IT bods.
As a Mac/Linux user (binned my last windows machine a year or two ago), its noticeable things are getting there slowly. You can happily do LDAP/Kerberos on Linux, and its getting there on Mac (although notice that the Kerberos tools are hidden?). You can even authenticate off an AD with your Mac login, but its just not there yet.
Either they need to implement their own AAA framework for users, groups and role-based group policy (and while they're at it, give it a license Linux can use!), or they need to broker a deal with MS and get proper AD integration.
Until this happens, you'll only get these OS in big corporations for people like NOC staff who are allowed to deviate from corporate IT policy.
Don't get me wrong, smaller companies that don't have centrally-managed IT policy can probably get away with it now by just writing policies that staff have to adhere to (ie they dont get root, the IT staff do, etc).
I used it in an ISP environment but at a certain point it becomes impossible to manage. The qmail queue is like a tub of nitroglycerine - fine, but if you touch it, it explodes.
Qmails strength its its simplicity. It then achieves security because it is a simple program. For small mail installations it is fine, high performance, small footprint, etc. Each component part is easy to debug.
It becomes unwieldily when you need to do things which aren't simple, queue management, scaling to a godzillion users, policy based mail routing, multiple actions on a mail before its delivered, db lookups, intelligent filtering, etc. These things are either unavailable or a third party (after the fact) bolt-on.
If it's license wasn't so badly the suck, then it probably would be as current and featureful as any other MTA in wide use today. As a result of its silly license, the barrier to maintain and extend it is too high for most people and it's stuck in 1997.
Isn't this always the case? If you jump in first, yes you get your shiny, and you put an end to the wait, but you're gonna have to live with the niggles.
Same with the iPhone, same with Vista, hell, same with Debian testing.
Longer wait = More Stable GET IT NOW = Put up with some mild issues
Sounds to me like incompetence. You're a big company, pay for people to look after your infrastructure...... I hate it when publicly traded companies cut corners to put that stock price up just a fraction of a nanocent.
I fail to see how it's a nonsense post. The bottom line is, MS knew well in advance that this was a big problem, and acknowledged it, had a mechanism in place to fix the problem, and didn't. This is different from some random virus hitting en masse and doing damage.
Saying that X people pirate the software isn't a counter-argument - it's a seperate issue. If MS want to lock out people illegally using their software, there are ways. They should however remain committed to ensuring the the users of their software are looked after.
Microsoft software isn't free, people pay them for it, so I think it's fairly shitty of them to not look after its customers. After all, it [customer service] should always be a top priority.
Do they have to do this? No. Should they have? Yes.
Is that M$ knew about this a long time ago, yet stood back and did nothing to help. Except for their premium customers, of course. It needs to be taken into account that there should be some kind of responsibility for these actions.
Monetary damage has been inflicted, and the makers of the software had all the tools and knowledge to prevent this happening.
If you made a car, and you knew that there was a flaw that caused it to stop working, you have a responsibility to recall the car / fix it for free.
The same should apply here. Just holding back because it's 'not in your scheduled update cycle' is another example of their outdated practices. Admittedly theres always a lag for testing and so on with patches, but in this example it was already done because they were offering the update to their subscription customers.
I hope that they consider making more of his stuff. The stories are excellent, I especially liked the 'Guards' series. Feet of Clay would make an excellent film!
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It can be argued that these guys are behind "Noo Meejuh" being an everyday household concept, but I still don't have a facebook account :-)
If anything I'm surprised this hasn't happened already given the size of the company, the talent they attract, etc.
Maybe this will make them innovate and change their game a bit, but for me they seems somewhat like a one-trick-pony and G+ seems to have stolen their trick. /G
Nothing lasts forever. Good luck in your future adventures, CmdrTaco! You've wasted a lot of my time over the years. :-)
If asked, say it wasn't you. Done.
The problem with this kind of tool, and really it boils down to all the increasing surveillance options available to law enforcement (trust me, my ass is fully violated, I live in the UK) - they make it trivial for anyone interested with the correct clearance to go to town and infringe on someones rights. This kind of tool rarely has the correct AAA criteria set up for it (nor does any of the increasing computerised government systems), so more and more of our personal data is being shipped wholesale, without our permission, into the hands of people who are either incompetant or not suitable to handle it.
These kind of tools need peer-review as to their use, and an accountable audit procedure.
As an ISP, you have 3 things:
- stuff you provide on your own network (ISP email, webspace, etc)
- paths to other networks via peering agreements (IX's etc)
- paths to other networks via transit providers (your so called Tier 1's)
All that is happening here is that the amount of traffic pushed over peering links is getting bigger, mainly because a switchport at an IX is way cheaper (and faster, better latency etc) than going via your transit over the internet for it.
No conspiracy here, move along.
At least, they'd recently bought them when I saw their office in 2005. So the guys complaining that Google aggressively pursued the name, well, it was already there, and was probably some kind of assertion exercise that opened up the can of worms.
The 3d web doesn't work. What "problem" are they trying to fix? That's the main reason it keeps failing.
-- incubus
... Is that they end up regressing, will someone just bite the bullet and fix upstream?!
Regardless of the trolling and fanboyism, I for one would like to wish him well and hope he gets better in due time. Enjoy your rest, Steve, and get well soon!
Yay misinformation. Is Best Buy participating in extortion when they say "you need to pay for this item to bring it home, or we will arrest you"? No. Why? Because it is illegal to steal. Infringing upon copyright by distributing music without permission is also illegal, and the copyright holders have every right to ask for compensation (fairly).
Biggest fallacy in all these pro-RIAA arguments. Copyright infringement is NOT theft. No matter how many times you say it.
I think the point is, and I speak for all miners everywhere, when did you ever hear of a Rich Miner? The man is a fraud! Sent from Google to steal our freedom!
To be honest, I don't think any of this is at all surprising.
Sure, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists will be able to make a new bunch of YouTube videos, but all the sane people realise that going to war was a sham anyway.
The office of the POTUS chose to ignore relevant information presented to them by other departments, and that there was some other agenda for the war in Iraq, that we are unlikely to find out for a long time if ever.
As the parent said, I think it may have more immediate implications for allies of the US who went to war based on the judgement of GWB etc. But then again, this kind of stuff on the Internets rarely gets looked at.
Speaking as a Brit who had similar bullshitting fed to them by our own Government regarding this issue...
This just isn't the case. Most enterprises don't care as you can't enforce windows-style user permissions and roles. That's what auditors care about as well as enterprise IT bods.
As a Mac/Linux user (binned my last windows machine a year or two ago), its noticeable things are getting there slowly. You can happily do LDAP/Kerberos on Linux, and its getting there on Mac (although notice that the Kerberos tools are hidden?). You can even authenticate off an AD with your Mac login, but its just not there yet.
Either they need to implement their own AAA framework for users, groups and role-based group policy (and while they're at it, give it a license Linux can use!), or they need to broker a deal with MS and get proper AD integration.
Until this happens, you'll only get these OS in big corporations for people like NOC staff who are allowed to deviate from corporate IT policy.
Don't get me wrong, smaller companies that don't have centrally-managed IT policy can probably get away with it now by just writing policies that staff have to adhere to (ie they dont get root, the IT staff do, etc).
- incubus
LOL. Couldn't agree more with you there. Both good companies, both nerds swinging their handbags at each other.
I heard Yahoo! use it... or a derivative.
I used it in an ISP environment but at a certain point it becomes impossible to manage. The qmail queue is like a tub of nitroglycerine - fine, but if you touch it, it explodes.
Qmails strength its its simplicity. It then achieves security because it is a simple program. For small mail installations it is fine, high performance, small footprint, etc. Each component part is easy to debug.
It becomes unwieldily when you need to do things which aren't simple, queue management, scaling to a godzillion users, policy based mail routing, multiple actions on a mail before its delivered, db lookups, intelligent filtering, etc. These things are either unavailable or a third party (after the fact) bolt-on.
If it's license wasn't so badly the suck, then it probably would be as current and featureful as any other MTA in wide use today. As a result of its silly license, the barrier to maintain and extend it is too high for most people and it's stuck in 1997.
-- incubus
Isn't this always the case? If you jump in first, yes you get your shiny, and you put an end to the wait, but you're gonna have to live with the niggles.
Same with the iPhone, same with Vista, hell, same with Debian testing.
Longer wait = More Stable
GET IT NOW = Put up with some mild issues
M.
I read it as 'hardy heroin'. Clearly rockstar-grade.
Sounds to me like incompetence. You're a big company, pay for people to look after your infrastructure... ... I hate it when publicly traded companies cut corners to put that stock price up just a fraction of a nanocent.
-- incubus
Come on, look what you're pasting. What you thought was a story about ponies could be the next AACS encryption key!
Wow, I love ponies.
Someone set us up the bomb.
Was I the only one who was skim reading and thought it said "CNN Monkey"?
Mmm, monkeys.
I fail to see how it's a nonsense post. The bottom line is, MS knew well in advance that this was a big problem, and acknowledged it, had a mechanism in place to fix the problem, and didn't. This is different from some random virus hitting en masse and doing damage.
Saying that X people pirate the software isn't a counter-argument - it's a seperate issue. If MS want to lock out people illegally using their software, there are ways. They should however remain committed to ensuring the the users of their software are looked after.
Microsoft software isn't free, people pay them for it, so I think it's fairly shitty of them to not look after its customers. After all, it [customer service] should always be a top priority.
Do they have to do this? No. Should they have? Yes.
That was my beef.
-- incubus
Is that M$ knew about this a long time ago, yet stood back and did nothing to help. Except for their premium customers, of course. It needs to be taken into account that there should be some kind of responsibility for these actions.
Monetary damage has been inflicted, and the makers of the software had all the tools and knowledge to prevent this happening.
If you made a car, and you knew that there was a flaw that caused it to stop working, you have a responsibility to recall the car / fix it for free.
The same should apply here. Just holding back because it's 'not in your scheduled update cycle' is another example of their outdated practices. Admittedly theres always a lag for testing and so on with patches, but in this example it was already done because they were offering the update to their subscription customers.
Grrr.
-- incubus
I hope that they consider making more of his stuff. The stories are excellent, I especially liked the 'Guards' series. Feet of Clay would make an excellent film!
incubus^