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Scientists Reverse Muscular Dystrophy In Dogs

Al writes "Scientists have taken a step toward developing a cure for Duchenne muscular dystrophy (DMD) by successfully treating the condition in dogs using a novel genetic technique. The scientists used a method called exon skipping, which involves adding a genetic 'patch' to block transcription of a portion of the gene involved in DMD. This puts the remaining genetic sequence back in order, essentially creating a much less severe version of the condition. The scientists recorded some remarkable video footage showing the resulting improvements in several dogs with naturally-occurring DMD. More work is needed before the treatment can be given to humans, however, because DMD sufferers often have different genetic mutations."

143 comments

  1. Beware by dnormant · · Score: 2, Informative

    The video link is pop up hell in IE.

    1. Re:Beware by brian0918 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "IE"? What is that? I cannot recall... :P

    2. Re:Beware by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 4, Funny

      wait slashdotters don't use IE... Imposter! Who are you and what have you done with the owner of that computer!

    3. Re:Beware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "IE"? What is that? I cannot recall... :P

      It's more commonly known as "the Firefox downloading tool".

    4. Re:Beware by brian0918 · · Score: 0

      You mean the Download Statusbar addon?

    5. Re:Beware by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Slashdotters goofing off on (unenlightened) company time do...

    6. Re:Beware by dnormant · · Score: 1

      I know, I know. I was actually surfing in firefox but all the pop ups were in IE. I can't disable IE because all of my work related crap requires it.

    7. Re:Beware by brian0918 · · Score: 1

      I can't disable IE because all of my work related crap requires it.

      Clearly it's time to update your resume and pack your bags.

    8. Re:Beware by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I quit every job I had every time someone higher up decided something stupid, I would be permanently unemployed.
      It's called "work" for a reason. If it was fun, it would be called "fun", and financial compensation would not be required...

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    9. Re:Beware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, what a highly original, well thought out response. Such a nonconformist! You know the kool-aid everyone here talks about? You are not only drinking it, you have your arm in up to your elbow mixing up the next batch! Please do us all a favor and think before your next post. No, I mean really think for yourself. Not just re-posting the equivalent of bumper sticker wisdom that seems so prevalent on Slashdot.

      P.S. Why do you love the smell of your own farts?

    10. Re:Beware by dhanson865 · · Score: 0, Troll

      It's more commonly known as "the Firefox downloading tool".

      Oh please. I used IE to download Netscape navigator/communicator back in the day.

      Netscape Navigator/Communicator was my Firefox downloading tool.

      Now I use USB drives or network shares to get Firefox on a PC other than my primary. I'm not going to use IE over and over to download Firefox. What are you a masochist?

    11. Re:Beware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I quit every job I had every time someone higher up decided something stupid, I would be permanently unemployed.

      But you'd have your principles and that is what is most important. You could always live in your Mom's basement as brian0918 does.

    12. Re:Beware by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Principles are great and all, but you can't eat them or pay bills with them. If you starve to death, what good are principles then?

      Dealing with morons that have a higher position than you is part of life. You have to pick your battles carefully or you will be fighrting for nothing all the time.

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    13. Re:Beware by mux2000 · · Score: 1

      Ah, you mean Synaptic!

    14. Re:Beware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he enjoys the aroma of his own flatulence he must be a Apple user.

    15. Re:Beware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any cure is welcome...
      Muscular dystrophy strikes at any age, and lots get it as a result of a random mutation {ie small pox vaccine}
      Evil, wicked disease, u can't scratch an itch, u drown because of a cold (dont even whant to think of the flu), u feel ur lungs burn as they drown every day because of pulmary edema... u feel all the pain not to mention being stuck in ur mind, in a body, in a chair, all the while feeling the contractions on ur muscles as they die... very painful. It really is mind over matter with muscular dystrophy, u practice it every day. So u realise the only thing that's gonna advance the human race are cures like these.
        We will always be exposed to random genetic mutation events. The research that has gone into understanding, and now reversing this disease is really the only way to protect ourselves for the future.... U may agree, unless u look in the mirror and think chimp... among other things chimps can tear humans to pieces with their muscles... me I'm more than happy I can type what I think, with a brain that can figure out ways to stop the filtering of the weak from the strong, because the weakest members of our race make us real human beings, and as our history has always proven by helping our weakest we end up helping our selves in the long run...

  2. Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Shikaku · · Score: 0, Redundant

    n/t

    1. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ok, seriously. What could possibly go wrong?

      We're talking treating people who are almost certainly going to die anyway with a genetic approach that doesn't have even a theoretical way to spread to other people. The absolute worst thing that could go wrong is that the people being treated die from the treatment. The second worst thing that could happen is that we don't do the treatment and they die anyway; though maybe a bit later.

      I'm seriously asking, what do you think could actually go wrong?

    2. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Mordaximus · · Score: 3, Insightful
      We're talking treating people who are almost certainly going to die anyway with a genetic approach that doesn't have even a theoretical way to spread to other people. The absolute worst thing that could go wrong is that the people being treated die from the treatment. The second worst thing that could happen is that we don't do the treatment and they die anyway; though maybe a bit later.

      Really? If I were the betting type, I'd say just about everyone is almost certainly going to die, not just those afflicted with MD. The most important thing anyone can ask for isn't longevity, it's quality of life. Your list of outcomes is incomplete - I'd at the very least put "the treatment leads them to suffer more than they already do" far ahead of any others.

    3. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by DanTheStone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Since the fix isn't inherited, this could increase the rate of this disorder in the whole human race. If genetic disorders never select out, a lot more people would become dependent on the treatment in the future. There's a reason why natural selection is important to the survival of a species. In a nutshell: More people who have this disorder will be able to have children and pass it on.

    4. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I appreciate where you're going with this, I'd argue that it's already happening!

      There are more cases of Type 1 Diabetes (which isn't the kind you get from being overweight) today than there were a century ago. I postulate this is due to more people living longer lives, and able to produce more offspring that reach reproductive age, with the disease. This is just a quick example put together by a layman (me)... I'm sure if you speak with someone that actually knows what they're talking about (scientifically speaking that is, I have a rather healthy ego) I'm sure they'll come up with more.

    5. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How is this different from eyeglasses/contacts?

      If we can fix it, why should it be selected against?

      Natural selection is not a force for the survival of a species, it is not some artist or designer. It is merely the natural tendency for some traits to be selected against from environmental pressure. If there is no environmental pressure against the traits they do not get selected against. This is no different than taller growing trees, lack of food at one height, making an incredibly long neck no longer a hindrance. If a cure was invented that means the environment changed and there is no longer a selection pressure against this trait.

    6. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by j-beda · · Score: 1
      It is not clear however if an increased rate of a treatable disorder is such a bad thing - if everyone needs to wear eyeglasses to see (for example) that is not such a bad thing - particularly if those with the disorder are contributing to the group as a whole. Natural selection will ALWAYS have an effect, but all organisms change their environment in feedback loops - if MD is no longer a serious problem due to treatment, it does not spell our doom as a species.

      Granted, the carriers of this gene might not be so well off when Mad Max comes to power, but until then we at least keep the widest possible genetic variation in the population so a few of us might be able to drink salt water when "the Mariner" takes over. Unfortunately I can't think of a good way of working in wolves or postmen to this post...

    7. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by vishbar · · Score: 5, Funny

      The absolute worst thing that could go wrong is that the people being treated die from the treatment

      Nuh-uh. Did you ever see 28 Days Later?

      Zombies. The worst thing that could go wrong are zombies.

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    8. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by vlm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your list of outcomes is incomplete - I'd at the very least put "the treatment leads them to suffer more than they already do" far ahead of any others.

      Yes for cosmetic genetic engineering stuff like changing eye color or womens chest size I'd agree, the possible downsides could be pretty icky.

      But, MD is not exactly a joyous party... Even if you intentionally tried, how do you suggest you'd make it even worse? You'd have to do some pretty ridiculous scaremongering like claiming they "could" get something like rabies or ebola, or "could" become lycanthropes. But that doesn't sound very responsible in their situation.

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    9. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this why people appear to be getting stupider and stupider?

    10. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I'm not totally cruel, but:

      If we can fix it, why should it be selected against?

      Because it's expensive to fix it, and letting it propagate in the gene pool means we'll have to pay to fix it in a higher and higher proportion of the populace.

      From an economic perspective, the miraculous state of modern medicine will bankrupt us. From a moral perspective, it's a hard choice to make, about whether we can afford to cure everyone of everything curable.

      But I think the simple truth is that the cost/benefit ratio of curing (or partially curing) certain diseases is far too high... especially among the elderly (who have little economic productivity left in them).

      I know it's cruel and morally questionable, but at what point do we realize we are bankrupting future generations just to extend our lives a few measly years?

      Note that curing MD is something completely different, since it is not a disease of the elderly.

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    11. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm seriously asking, what do you think could actually go wrong?

      They could become Super Mutants with super strength, stamina, and intelligence. They may form a plot to make everyone "better" like them by infecting those that don't even have the disease. Haven't you ever played Fallout?

    12. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by JerryLove · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Eyeglasses don't fix poor vision. They compensate for it.

      Why would you want to deslect for it? Because a population that needs braces, eyeglasses, custom shoes, and a pace-maker at birth is not a laudable goal. In addition to the clear inferiority of "overcoming problems" to "never having problems", there's the issue of what happens if the technology infrastructure breaks down.

      On the other hand: the beauty of gene-therepy is that it should be applicable to reproductive cells. Alter the MD gene in an egg or zygote and you remove it from future generations as well. Presumably the same applies to altering the semenal-creating cells in the testies.

    13. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by nine-times · · Score: 1

      I'm seriously asking, what do you think could actually go wrong?

      Sometimes the worst side-effects of our actions are those that we hadn't even imagined before it happened. Thalidomide is one example from the medical field-- as far as I know, nobody had an indication that it was dangerous when they first started using it.

      Now, I'm not saying that something horrible will go wrong, but I am in favor of extensive testing and forethought into consequences of our medical technologies, particularly when dealing with genetics. Some of the dangers may be overblown by Hollywood, but that doesn't mean there are no dangers.

    14. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by lenehey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since the fix isn't inherited, this could increase the rate of this disorder in the whole human race. If genetic disorders never select out, a lot more people would become dependent on the treatment in the future. There's a reason why natural selection is important to the survival of a species. In a nutshell: More people who have this disorder will be able to have children and pass it on.

      That's a good reason not to give kids eyeglasses or braces or, hell, lets not give any medical care to kids at all. And, maybe if you get beat up in the schoolyard, you should be left to die because, well, "survival of the fittest" and all that... You need to explain why Muscular Dystrophy should be singled out for non-treatment, or if not singled out, where you draw the line. Is it because its a genetic treatment? How is that worse than injecting yourself with insulin the rest of your life to keep you well? Or laser eye surgery for the blind or cochlear implants for the deaf?

    15. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We are not bankrupting anyone, look at doctor in a box places and what nurses can do these days. Health care is just stating to be commoditized, once that really gets going prices will fall dramatically. There is little need for our current see the MD when you feel ill system. Seeing a nurse, having some tests and letting the doctor review that information is much cheaper and will make healthcare accessible to more and more people.

      Conserving healthcare is as dumb as pretending that conservation of electricity will bring about a solution to that issue. Only when we consume so much that the price rises to an unacceptable level is any progress made. This is why war drives progress, bullets at $1 a piece are fine until you need 1 million of them. This is why the electric car will only take off when oil prices surge once again beyond $100 a barrel.

    16. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Massive immune system response to the gene tinkering leading to immediate death.

      Some gene gets tinkered in the wrong spot and you get cancer too.

      Go through a costly and/or miserable treatment with no effect.

    17. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      idiot,

      I hope you never need a blood transfusion, organ transplant, vaccine or pretty much any other medical procedure developed since blood transfusions were made safe enough to be useful, That research was done using (not surprisingly) animals too.

      You peta types are the epitome of clueless hypocrites, and prove it every time you open your mouths.

      If you had paid attention to even a semester of actual science classes you would understand the way research actually works, and you wouldent say such obviously stupid things.

      Your decision to remain ignorant allows me to feel justified in calling you a willful idiot and ignoring anything else you say on any subject.

    18. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by wealthychef · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why don't we rejoice that this gives patients a CHOICE in the matter. Let people make up their own minds about the risk.

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    19. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by thedonger · · Score: 2, Funny

      Did you ever see 28 Days Later?

      Oh yeah, did you ever see "28 Days" with Sandra Bullock? Now that is some scary shit...

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    20. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Xaedalus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Really? If I were the betting type, I'd say just about everyone is almost certainly going to die

      "Just about" everyone is "almost certainly" going to die? Last time I checked, I'd say EVERYONE is going to die. The only questions are "when", and "by what". Of course, I could be wrong, there are ALWAYS statistical outliers...

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    21. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by evilkasper · · Score: 1

      What's your Zombie action plan?

    22. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      I would love to be immortal. But only temporarily....

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    23. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Massive immune system response to the gene tinkering leading to immediate death.

      To quote the OP (MozeeToby):
      The absolute worst thing that could go wrong is that the people being treated die from the treatment.

      Some gene gets tinkered in the wrong spot and you get cancer too.

      Cancer isn't the death sentence it once was.

      Go through a costly and/or miserable treatment with no effect.

      Baseball analogy: If you don't swing, you will be in for somewhere between 3 and 6 pitches and might get on base if the pitcher sucks (he doesn't, in this case). If you swing at every pitch, you might strike out after 3 pitches. Or you might keep fouling out indefinitely, and get much more than 6 pitches. Or you might get a base hit.

    24. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Yikes! Much, MUCH worse than zombies!

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    25. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      We lost this battle with the advent of modern medicine. Anything we do that allows people to live to childbearing age when they would have otherwise died perpetuates bad genes.

    26. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      ... arg. Meant to qualify that as: ... when they would have otherwise died due to a genetically inheritable condition... I would think this goes without saying, but I am sure if I don't post it some jackass will bring up car accidents or something.

    27. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by nycguy · · Score: 3, Funny

      As a zombie, I'll tell you right now that I try to stay away from genetically modified people, and I think they should be banned from the food chain.

    28. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      We are not bankrupting anyone

      Oh? How much does health insurance cost? What, about $20k a year for the average family? That is a HUGE burden on employers/families/the government. It's a huge factor in employment costs, especially in relation to competition that doesn't have that huge overhead.

      There is little need for our current see the MD when you feel ill system. Seeing a nurse, having some tests and letting the doctor review that information is much cheaper and will make healthcare accessible to more and more people

      And yet tort law (and the state medical boards) ensure that this standard of care will not be accepted.

      But we're not talking about routine medical care or slight illnesses... the cost of catastrophic medical coverage and treatment of rare diseases is more germane to the topic at hand. The simple fact of the matter is that prolonging the life of someone with a serious medical condition requiring extensive and expensive treatment is often a net negative for society. It's ugly, but it's the truth.

      It causes a big moral problem, though -- are only the wealthy deserving of this medical treatment? If all deserve expensive medical treatment, how do we keep costs from bankrupting us?

      Seriously... I have family members who would be dead if not for $2 million plus in medical costs. While I don't begrudge my health insurance premiums of $1200 a month for my wife and kid, how much of that is going to pay for catastrophic coverage for someone who will never even come close to paying that back into the system?

      As we see more and more advances in medicine, one common factor is that cost also rises. At what point do the expensive treatments simply cost too much for our labor system to bear?

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    29. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by maxume · · Score: 1

      They didn't do enough testing of thalidomide. The proper response to mistakes is not to stop doing new things, it is to be more careful (like doing more testing, and developing models that help predict the impact of a molecule prior to that testing).

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    30. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by nine-times · · Score: 1

      They didn't do enough testing of thalidomide. The proper response to mistakes is not to stop doing new things...

      Yes, which is why I said, "Now, I'm not saying that something horrible will go wrong, but I am in favor of extensive testing and forethought into consequences..."

    31. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      As Red Flayer noted, medicine isn't on a 'getting cheaper' trend. Sure, some basic care is cheaper than ever, but we're still very much making more treatment options - this is good for our health, bad for our wallets.

      By that token, I support any families that chose to eliminate inheritable diseases such as MS, MD, even diabetes. Even to the point of aborting fetuses with those traits. Yes, I know about various slippery slope arguements, but let's face it, under older conditions such babies would be chosen against anyways, dying early.

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    32. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why they should have let frail ol' Isaac Newton die. Frail people are a net loss on society.

      I mean what did he give back to society?

    33. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Then don't allow selection for 'designer' babies, allow selection for broken metabolic paths and such. There's not really an upside to MD, diabetes, multiple sclerosis, etc...

      Sickle cell is a bit iffy - but by the time we get around to doing the selection for it, Malaria shouldn't be a problem, or we might have genetic engineering to the point that we can do a custom modification to provide immunity on our own.

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    34. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by djp928 · · Score: 1

      Why have medecine at all, then? We should all just die of gangrene and dysentery. Only the tough deserve to survive!

    35. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by syousef · · Score: 1

      Since the fix isn't inherited, this could increase the rate of this disorder in the whole human race. If genetic disorders never select out, a lot more people would become dependent on the treatment in the future.

      Talk about a slippery slope. By that logic all medicine should be banned. It's a flawed argument, but regardless, something tells me that's an argument you're not likely to win because people would never be prepared to accept that conclusion even if you could prove you were right.

      Certainly one thing you're forgetting is that logical thinking, tool use, technology and medicine are all things that have developed due to natural selection. If our brains hadn't evolved to give us the advantage, the size of the human population would be much smaller. Hell we may well have died out like the Neanderthal.

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    36. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by j-beda · · Score: 1
      "There's not really an upside to MD, diabetes, multiple sclerosis, etc..."

      One doesn't really know - perhaps some of these problems in less sever forms provide some advantage at some point in the organism's life - enough to offset their disadvantages - similar to Sickle cell anemia. I heard some discussion on a possible benefit for the fetus to implant on the uterine wall for one of them - a significant fraction of conceptions end up as unnoticed miscarriages I am led to believe. It is at least conceivable (no pun intended) that one of these problems could be linked to increased efficiency in some biological pathway totally unrelated to the problem - are MS people better at abstract math? do MD people have more efficient ATP production? We don't really know.

    37. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by greenkite71 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have FSHD (another mild form of muscular dystrophy). If this approach is ever applied to FSHD, I will try to be one of the first in line. To those of you who prefer that we die so that the your conception of the human race doesn't become weaker, I suggest your line of thinking presents a far greater risk to humanity than my genes.

    38. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 1

      There's no money to be made on future generations that way. Think of it as pay-per-play genetics.

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    39. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by pesho · · Score: 1

      Massive immune system response to the gene tinkering leading to immediate death.

      They are injecting short nucleic acids that block a signal on RNA (a splice site) from being recognized which causes part of it to be skipped and at the end you get a shorter protein. The nucleic acid fragments are not immunogenic, and the shorter protein does not have any new sequences to which the immune system has not developed tolerance. So this is not real concern.

      Some gene gets tinkered in the wrong spot and you get cancer too.

      This is a concern when developing gene therapy. In this case this is not an issue, because you are not 'tinkering' with the gene. What they target is the RNA transcript of the gene.

      Go through a costly and/or miserable treatment with no effect.

      Short nucleic acids are cheap to make. The treatment is likely to be an IV injection every few weeks. Compared to slowly loosing your muscles and suffocating because you no longer have strength to bread this hardly qualifies as miserable.

    40. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by mspohr · · Score: 1

      Most personal bankruptcies in the US are caused by medical bills. Doctors, hospitals, pharma, and device makers all have monopolies of various types that prevent the 'free market' from working.

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    41. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last I checked, it was spelled "more and more stupid". So if even you think that stupidity in the population is on the rise, it's even worse than feared previously.

    42. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by andot · · Score: 1

      You don't understand the problem. DMD is X-linked recessive. DMD primarily affects boys, who inherit the disease through their mothers. Women can be carriers of DMD but usually exhibit no symptoms. Male patient cannot give the disease to their children, because the Y cromosome they give their male children doesn't have that gene.

    43. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by andot · · Score: 1

      I had a cancer and I know people with DMD. I could choose between cancer and DMD I would prefer cancer any time....

    44. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Natural selection isn't at work within the human race like that any longer. 'Survival of the fittest' hasn't applied for at least a few hundred years when it comes to humankind, and that's not a bad thing. It's a natural result of being a developed species with available food and resources easily distributed via technology and social system. This is why being slower and stupider than Lou Ferigno doesn't mean he gets the bananas and you die -- because everybody can buy bananas.

    45. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by redalertbulb · · Score: 1
      This could increase the rate of this disorder in the whole human race.

      Idiotic thing to say for an X-linked disease such as DMD. Females can carry one copy of the gene without showing any symptoms, therefore natural selection cannot breed this disorder out of the population. Males with the disorder generally die before they are old enough to father a child.

    46. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Ihlosi · · Score: 1

      'Survival of the fittest' hasn't applied for at least a few hundred years when it comes to humankind,

      Sorry, "survival of the fittest" is alive and well, even for the human race. You're "fit" if you can produce offspring and keep it alive until it in turn reproduces. There's really no other criterion.

    47. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by DanTheStone · · Score: 1

      But with a treatment, the males won't die before they can father a child, so a treatment will make the disorder more common. You actually contributed to my statement in that respect. And that wasn't my point anyway; my point is that there can be things worse (for the general human race) than death.

    48. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by redalertbulb · · Score: 1
      I apologise for the use of the word 'idiotic', I must have been in a bad mood. My point however, is still valid. This treatment is not a cure, but it is true that it may alleviate symptoms to the point of extending life to allow successful procreation. However, (speaking as a father) I would not want to risk any child of mine having this disease, even if this treatment was successful, any male child would still likely die before I did.

      As to your final point, I would tend to disagree. Who decides what is 'good' for the human race?

    49. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by GargamelSpaceman · · Score: 1

      No. See the movie Idiocracy for why people are stupider and stupider.

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    50. Re:Tag: whatcouldpossiblygowrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey Hitler, tell that to my 11-year-old with this cruel disease: we shouldn't cure you because you might decide to have children.

  3. Does this mean... by Jonah+Bomber · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the end of Labor Day Weekend Telathons? What will Jerry Lewis do now? Guess my 25 cents in a fireman's boot actually worked.

    1. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What will Jerry Lewis do now?

      I don't know about the immediate future, but I guess this means he gets to die knowing that he has made a positive contribution to humanity as a whole.

    2. Re:Does this mean... by Chabo · · Score: 1

      He could write a sequel to his autobiography, "Dean and Me".

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    3. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any cure is welcome...
      Muscular dystrophy strikes at any age, and lots get it as a result of a random mutation
      Evil, wicked disease, u can't scratch an itch, u drown because of a cold (dont even whant to think of the flu), u feel ur lungs burn as they drown every day because of pulmary edema... u feel all the pain not to mention being stuck in ur mind, in a body, in a chair, all the while feeling the contractions on ur muscles as they die... very painful. It really is mind over matter with muscular dystrophy, u practice it every day. So u realise the only thing that's gonna advance the human race are cures like these.
        We will always be exposed to random genetic mutation events. The research that has gone into understanding, and now reversing this disease is really the only way to protect ourselves for the future.... U may agree, unless u look in the mirror and think chimp... among other things chimps can tear humans to pieces with their muscles... me I'm more than happy I can type what I think, with a brain that can figure out ways to stop the filtering of the weak from the strong, because the weakest members of our race make us real human beings, and as our history has always proven by helping our weakest we end up helping our selves in the long run...

  4. Is it heritable? by PotatoFarmer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd be interested to see whether or not the "patch" is heritable; the article doesn't mention it. In any case, it's really impressive work.

    1. Re:Is it heritable? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I doubt it, especially from women.

    2. Re:Is it heritable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I'd be interested to see whether or not the "patch" is heritable; the article doesn't mention it. In any case, it's really impressive work.

      It's not.

    3. Re:Is it heritable? by PotatoFarmer · · Score: 2, Informative

      I guess it would depend on the potential methods of inheritance. If, in addition to directly modifying the production of male sperm, the patch could be delivered through the placenta to a fetus similar to how antibodies are transferred then it could still be heritable through the female.

      That all being said, I'm not a biologist, so it's entirely possible that what I've described can't actually happen.

    4. Re:Is it heritable? by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      The patch will have to be in either the eggs of the female (very unlikely it will reach there) if it even COULD work at all because of the way eggs are special (giant, hard large shell) or in the site where male sperm does its meiosis; sperm cells are made by dividing like mitosis then dividing again to form 4 cells with half the DNA. It's possible in males, but very unlikely in females.

    5. Re:Is it heritable? by MarkRose · · Score: 1

      That's okay, just call Tank and he'll upload one! "Tank! I need a patch!"

      *goes back to bending spoons*

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    6. Re:Is it heritable? by vivin · · Score: 2, Informative

      IANAG (IANA Geneticist), but from what little I know about genetics, I doubt it is heritable. The only way something can be heritable is if it modifies any of the germ cells (sperm or ova). In fact, some of the "junk" DNA that we have are actually inactive sequences of ancient retroviruses (ERVs - Endogenous retroviruses) that infected the germ cells in our ancestors.

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      http://vivin.net

      I like
    7. Re:Is it heritable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's not... To be heritable one would have to "correct" the gene in gametes instead of somatic cells, as they do.

  5. whatcouldpossiblygoright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think what could possibly go *right*. My mother is a physical therapist and she wouldn't mind being out of a job if children suffering from even just the DMD type could be cured. Can we stop with this pointless tag? You're disaffected and parroting unoriginal sarcasm, good for you.

  6. Patch Tuesdays? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If this does work, will our descendants have to deal with a more personal variation of Patch Tuesdays??

    1. Re:Patch Tuesdays? by SnarfQuest · · Score: 3, Funny

      Will they usee same level of quality control as Microsoft?

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    2. Re:Patch Tuesdays? by Sinning · · Score: 0

      It would be rather interesting to see people limping around every other Tuesday because of problems with the weekly patch.

  7. I read the headline as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    For some reason, I read the headline as "Scientists Reverse Muscular Dystrophy in Frogs". Reading that, I thought, "Well no wonder the French love Jerry Lewis".

  8. Great News by Nos. · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just found out that two nephews of three are positive for DMD. This basically confirms that my sister-in-law is a carrier. We're in the middle of trying to determine if my wife is a carrier, and thus if our two sons are at risk. To say the least this is a very stressful time in our lives, and there are no quick answers. However, seeing a big jump like this in treatment is great news.

    1. Re:Great News by JorDan+Clock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pray to dieties, sacrifice every living animal you can get your hands on, and avoid every single bad luck superstition. My brother has DMD and at the age of 30, he can't even feed himself anymore. I sincerely hope for the best with your children.

    2. Re:Great News by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Good news for humans. Great news for dogs.

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    3. Re:Great News by Nos. · · Score: 1

      We were waiting to get genetic testing done on my wife, but they've come back and said get CK levels done on the kids first. We're hoping to get those done this week. We did get a CK level done on my wife, and hers was 320. Given she's physically active, it pretty much doesn't tell us anything.

      The one positive is that no one else on my wife's side of the family has had, or shown symptoms of muscular dystrophy, which leads me to believe that her sister became a carrier as a result of a mutated egg, and did not inherit it. From what I've read, 33% of cases start that way, which is good news for my wife and I. In any case, its going to be hard to watch our nephews since we are quite close.

    4. Re:Great News by anderesa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dear Andrew,
      as a daily reader of Slashdot and also father of four young kids, two of them having Duchenne, I'm surprised that this terrible desease is discussed among this community.

      Unfortunately, the discussion doesn't go very deep with few interesting threads. I cross my fingers for your family. My wife also is a carrier but my two sister-in-laws. In fact, we found out that my wife got the defect (3 Exons are deleted on one X-chromosom) from her mother but she's been the only one among five kids to inherit the defect X-chromosom. I've also read in several places that the odds of being a carrier are 66% if one of your kids has the genetic defect

      Last, I'd like to point you to some great reports about latest research incl. exon skipping techniques. They are all written in easy language understandable by parents and other people without a PhD in biochemistry.
      http://www.duchenne-information.eu/home-en.htm

      Take care
      --Sam

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  9. Original Article by Elenseel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there a way to get the original article published by the scientists who developed the technique? My mentorship is heavily rooted in genetic analysis, so I'm interested in these kinds of things.

    1. Re:Original Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/fulltext/122260425/HTMLSTART

  10. I can see it now by Rayban · · Score: 3, Funny

    # patch -p0 < cure-md.patch

    File to patch: chromosone/18
    patching file chromosone/18
    Hunk #1 FAILED at 47.
    Hunk #2 FAILED at 128.
    Hunk #3 FAILED at 308.
    Hunk #4 FAILED at 316.
    Hunk #5 FAILED at 328.
    Hunk #6 FAILED at 342.
    Hunk #7 FAILED at 397.
    Hunk #8 FAILED at 708.
    Hunk #9 FAILED at 1268.
    9 out of 9 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file
    chromosone/18.rej

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    æeee!
  11. So that's how the Rage Virus will get made! by Capacitor · · Score: 1

    I'm heading for the mountains with my shotgun. Be sure to act intelligent if you see me or else I'll have to assume you're infected!

    1. Re:So that's how the Rage Virus will get made! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      According to Battlestar Galactica, its those damn Japanese robots that should worry us. Leave the Roomba behind when you go.

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    2. Re:So that's how the Rage Virus will get made! by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 1

      actually the Japanese are the ones making robots with the intentions of making them friends, whereas others tend to militarize them and think of them as becoming our new overlords. That's possibly why they ended the series showing only the robots that weren't killing machines.

  12. All this animal testing good for vets? by wjh31 · · Score: 1

    does these sort of medical tests on animals end up with better treatment of animals aswell by passing the info onto vets or is it generally not considered worth it for mans best friend.

    1. Re:All this animal testing good for vets? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      In a substantial number of cases, human therapies do become available for animals. They even have vets that specialize by disease area instead of by animal type(ie. Veterinary Oncologists vs. Large animal or small animal vets). This is also why you can now get animal health insurance.

    2. Re:All this animal testing good for vets? by TheSync · · Score: 1

      In a substantial number of cases, human therapies do become available for animals.

      It is easier and cheaper for these therapies to become available for animals because of less regulation. For example, you can clone animals today, but cloning people is illegal...

  13. Slashdot makes my day by Naked+Jaybird · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As one diagnosed with Becker's MD, a milder form of DMD, I, for one, welcome my new exon-skipping overlords. For those of you who are wondering if you should go to the gym, run, jog, shoot hoops, or play soccer today. I give you the same advice that I give to my three boys: Run, because you can.

    1. Re:Slashdot makes my day by sherriw · · Score: 1

      That, Naked Jaybird is an EXCELLENT comment. I copied it down and put it next to my 'work out plans' that I've been neglecting.

    2. Re:Slashdot makes my day by Xaedalus · · Score: 1

      Amen. Thank you for that. I plan to do so.

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    3. Re:Slashdot makes my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Randal
      "I can't help it. Guy pisses me off."

      Dante
      "What's the blog?"

      Randal
      (while cooking)
      "Wheelieblog.org. It's this fuck in a wheelchair who's alway's preying on everyone's sympathies and writing these long diatribes about how he'll never walk again, and how walkers should appreciate the blessings of their functioning legs."

      Dante
      "That "diatribe" as you call it sounds more like some poor, crippled guy pouring out his heart and feelings.

      Randal
      Oh, fuck him - trying to guilt me into walking around more because he's all gimped out. What kinda mind-fuck is that shit?
      (dumping fries)
      So i've been getting into it with him on his board - throwing it back in his stupid cripply-boy face about how much I love to just sit around, and how i'd rather drive to the end of the block than walk.

      Dante
      "the guy's in a wheelchair!!"

      Randal
      "Yeah - that's why I call him "Cripply-Boy"
      (handing bag to customer)
      "Have a good one!"

    4. Re:Slashdot makes my day by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
      By the way, if you read the article, tehy don't really cure DMD. They transform DMD into Becker's MD, what you have.

      In other words, You are the new exon-skipping overlord

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    5. Re:Slashdot makes my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will you also heed the advice of someone with a liver disease?

      Drink, because you can!

    6. Re:Slashdot makes my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And as someone with Thomsens MD I also welcome this news. Although my varient is not as severe as others, it is annoying and seems to be getting worse as I get older.

      I really hope this can make people with MD have a better quality of life, once it's ready and 'safe'.

    7. Re:Slashdot makes my day by Naked+Jaybird · · Score: 1

      Beautiful. Is this the first time we have had a real overlord on Slashdot? Bow down to me! But seriously, what I have is a single point mutation, so skipping errors is a reason to be optimistic. I do not know if skipping a single point will increase dystrophin in people with Becker's MD, but skipping an error and running execute something else would be the winner. Actually, what I need is a substitution regex.

    8. Re:Slashdot makes my day by Falconhell · · Score: 1

      MD diagnosed here too, FSH (Fascio/scapula/humeral) variety. Great advice Jaybird.

      The thing I find hardest is adjusting to limitations, with no possibility of improvement.

      This at least offers some hope of treatment and maybe less pain.

    9. Re:Slashdot makes my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you, that will made me feel better when I'll be drunk :)

    10. Re:Slashdot makes my day by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.

      -- Jamie Zawinski

      But he's not a geneticist, so what does he know?

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    11. Re:Slashdot makes my day by Naked+Jaybird · · Score: 1

      s/G|A|T/C/

  14. Re:Exon skipping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like domestic oil?

  15. Re:Exon skipping by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    Like domestic oil?

    I was making a play on words with Exon/Exxon. Clearly, my attempt at humor this morning has flown way over the head of the moderators..

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  16. Side effects? by Em+Emalb · · Score: 1

    Will this "patch" remove the "I'm going to butt-scoot across your white carpet" and the "I'm drooling cause you said the word treat" genes as well?

    Or, heaven forbid, will this treatment have Viagra-like side-effects?

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    1. Re:Side effects? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dang, are you talking about the dog or human version of the treatment? Because... ewww.

  17. VERY FUNNY!!! Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's chromosoMe!

    File to patch: chromosone/18
    Path chromosone/18 not found.

    1. Re:VERY FUNNY!!! Except... by Rayban · · Score: 1

      Can you post that with diff -u?

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  18. The problem with patches... by Gricey · · Score: 1

    ... Is that they end up regressing, will someone just bite the bullet and fix upstream?!

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  19. Re:Exon skipping by Intron · · Score: 1

    Everybody talks about the exons. Won't someone please think of the introns?

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  20. wost thing? by CaptainStumpy · · Score: 1

    Didn't you see I Am Legend? Thats the worst possible thing.

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    1. Re:wost thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being forced to watch a Will Smith movie can be pretty bad.

  21. What the? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How come this article isn't showing up on /.'s main page? I happened to notice it from RSS feed on my Goggle homepage, but it's not on the main page anymore?

  22. Results based on? by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    The videos? I certainly hope they based their findings on more then that.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but the untreated dogs shown at the beginning of the video do not appear to be the treated dogs shown in the latter half of the video. The age given for one of the treated dogs is actually 3 months younger then either of the untreated ones shown.

    So, what exactly is the video supposed to portray? It is impossibly to make any comparison based on the video because there is no "before" and "after" nor do we have the opportunity to see ANY of the dogs in more then one state, treated or untreated.

    All I see is several dogs, never more then once, suffering varying degrees of motor skill loss.

    Am I missing something here?

  23. Unnatural selection? by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    How about we take a step back and simply encourage such people to perform genetic screening, perhaps IVF to avoid passing the genes to their kids?

    We're intelligent animals, actually capable of guiding the genetics of our offspring - why wouldn't we want to make sure they have the best?

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  24. Good luck getting your HMO to pay for it by jhylkema · · Score: 1

    They'll just fuck the dog until the disease kills the patient rather than pay for the cure that could turn him/her back into a productive citizen. Otherwise, Wall Street won't like the numbers and the CEO will have to settle for a 140 foot yacht instead of a 150 foot one.

  25. You raise an interesting point by RexDevious · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Without even getting into a cost-benefit analysis of *any* form of medical care - it's astonishing how many people die from diseases that can be treated with substances like... food, clean water, even clean air.

    Yes, that's right - every Flintstones chewable you give your kid *could* have been money spent on iodine which saves some other kid from life long brain damage.

    So let's not kid ourselves into thinking that "survival of the fittest" is a primarily a biological test for mankind anymore. It's an economic one. You're alive and reading this, not because you're the pinnacle of human health and fitness (lol, this *is* slashdot); but more likely because you avoided dying of poverty. Just like me (though I certainly had some close calls).

    If we really wanted to, we could save hundreds of millions more people from dying just using the technology we already have. Heck, if we'd been doing that since the dawn of man - I bet we could have overpopulated ourselves right out of existence by now. We may yet.

    Instead, we let hundreds or thousands die to gain the ability to save one. Yeah, sometimes it's Dick Cheney, but sometimes it's Stephan Hawkings.

    Food gets eaten, medicine gets used up, research budgets get spent - but knowledge and discover remain. There's your cost benefit analysis.

    And I write this as both someone who's spent the last year not getting properly treated for a spine injury because my insurance company decided pain pills were cheaper, and who has a sister who's dying of an unprofitably rare disease. But of course, both of us would have died in childhood anyway if it weren't for medical discoveries that didn't exist in our parents generation.

  26. Re:Beware Then beware of Dog? by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    If so, then all THREE of these are dog-gone shames:

    The MD is gone
    the pop-up-hell site is a doggone shame
    the Dog vs God is a dog gone shame

    (woof woof...)

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  27. Firefox guy says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't care about what others say, the video worked for me. And what I saw impressed the hell out of me! Seriously, and all internet /doesn't work here/ junk aside, this video is freaking awesome! It shows before and after videos of dogs with muscular dystrophy going down a hall. The before vids show the dog barely able to walk, with people shuffling along (slower than walking) to encourage the dog to keep going. The dog can't move their legs very well. It then goes to show the same dog after 5, then 11, then 20 treatments. After 20 treatments, the researchers are basically running (not sprinting, but certainly a full run) down the hall, with the dogs keeping up. I don't have muscular dystrophy, but for people /families-of-people who have it, this must look like a miracle. Un-freeking-believable!

  28. A collective win for Jerry's Dogs! by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 1

    Somewhere, Jerry Lewis is hugging a dog in a wheelchair right now and saying "Good news, Puppy, We've found away to reverse Muscular Dystrophy."

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  29. Natural Selection... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

    However, Hawkins was a genius even before his ALS got bad, and on average the benefits from avoiding ALS in the first place exceed any theoretical gains. For that matter, it's likely that we'll lose Hawking early, compared to if he was healthy. As for ATP production, does having it be more efficient at the cost of MD make it worth it? Looking at animal life - these are traits that get selected out quickly and efficiently by nature. By nature bad mutations pop up far more frequently than good ones, but the weeding of natural selection promptly removes the bad ones(on average).

    I'm not saying that we don't do a thorough workup, it's just that there are any number of hereditary diseases that don't actually have a benefit. Heck - for sickle cell it might be a benefit to simply make sure that no new babies have the double recessive trait. There might be some other recessive diseases that one copy would actually provide some benefits, such as 'Wiedemann-Beckwith syndrome' aka 'double muscle'. A double copy turns average joe into an involuntary Mr. Universe, a single copy makes it possible. Overall the double copy is negative because it produces so much muscle it over strains the body - the heart and other organs remain normal sized. But with today's sedentary society, a mild case might actually help.

    Still, on average I'd say that we actually already DO know, at some point we can say 'For disorder X, there are no discernible benefits, even for the latent/recessive gene'. There's a whole host of genetic defects that can be classed this way.

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    1. Re:Natural Selection... by j-beda · · Score: 1
      All good points. I was trying to make the case that if we have an effective way of avoiding the problems associated with a particular "defect" as seems to be the case with MD in dogs at least, then there is much less need to eliminate that gene from the population, and that there might be some benefit to keeping that gene around. With that said, if given the choice for my progeny, I would tend to favour those genetic combinations that do not cause any known problems, rather than hoping that one of them causes some hopeful benefit.

      Gatica here we come.

  30. No by pesho · · Score: 1

    Nope. They are not touching the DNA.

  31. hang on.. by cavebison · · Score: 1

    I thought we were against animal testing?

  32. Useful alternative by tygerstripes · · Score: 1

    Might I recommend Firefox Portable for such people? It's a bloody godsend.

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    Meta will eat itself
  33. So Old News... by ITMagic · · Score: 1

    Sometimes, it's not so useful to rely on /. for breaking cutting edge news...

    The drug you are interested in is PTC124, otherwise known as Ataluren. It is currently in phase 2 clinical trials IN HUMANS (in the UK, at least) - We have boxes of it...

  34. It's spelled "Gattaca" by Ihlosi · · Score: 1

    Gatica here we come.

    There's no "i" in "Gattaca". Just like there's no base in DNA that has "i" as it's first letter. Adenine, thymine, guanine, cytosine - see, none of these starts with an "i". If you put any letters other than a, t, g and c in Gattaca, then you didn't get the joke.

    1. Re:It's spelled "Gattaca" by j-beda · · Score: 1

      "then you didn't get the joke" - yep, that would be me. Wow, the world just gets richer and richer, eh?

  35. Call Mike "doc" Witort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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