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Computer Virus Fells Russian Stock Exchange

azav wrote to mention the New Scientist story detailing the computer virus that brought down the Russian Stock Exchange. From the article: "As the world waited for one computer virus to strike on Friday, another wriggled its way into the Russian stock exchange and knocked it offline. Computer experts had warned that 3 February could bring gloom for many as a computer virus called Nyxem was scheduled to start deleting files on machines it had infected."

133 comments

  1. In Soviet Russia.. by Skythe · · Score: 0

    The Stock Exchange brings down computer viruses! oh wait..

    1. Re:In Soviet Russia.. by Aymon · · Score: 0

      lol no its not its a virus

    2. Re:In Soviet Russia.. by Paperweight · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      +1 Redundant

  2. what?? by bariswheel · · Score: 0, Redundant

    come again?! fells russian stock exchange? pc loadletter?? what the @#% does that mean??

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  3. stupid... by advocate_one · · Score: 4, Interesting

    we have a testing machine... connected to the internet of all things... AND connected to the same network the production system is running on... and evidently it's running on ms-windows...

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    1. Re:stupid... by putko · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Standard practice at banks is two physically separated networks -- production & test.

      I don't know why the exchange would be any different.

      But things at banks and exchanges are very ninja-rigged. E.g. build an automated trading client that sumits multiple trades a second and the exchange is likely to ask you to do some rate-limiting -- their systems won't be able to handle it.

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    2. Re:stupid... by Threni · · Score: 1

      This is Russia. The days of it being a superpower are long gone. Nowadays it's really more suitable to think of it as being more like Spain, given it's wealth and threat to other countries. What happens to its stock exchange is neither here nor there.

    3. Re:stupid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Standard practice at banks is two physically separated networks -- production & test."

      Yeah right...that's what the management thinks....

  4. RTS by ReinisFMF · · Score: 0

    Russian Trading System is like Real Time Strategy. And then comes cheaters... and haxors... God dammit! It's hard to play fair in these times!

    1. Re:RTS by Skythe · · Score: 1

      You can't forget the poor online interfaces and the disconnecting team mates and .. the tiberium poisoning

  5. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what is mickeysoft exactly?

  6. Wargames by digital-madman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Virus? I wanted to play Global Thermonuclear War....

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    1. Re:Wargames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wanted to play Global Thermonuclear War....

      Now I finally understand why they always used to write "Cold" War with "cold" in quotes!

  7. Russia has a stock exchange? by heatdeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    And they use computers? This is excellent news!

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    1. Re:Russia has a stock exchange? by cgenman · · Score: 2, Funny

      And it runs Windows?

      Why have I been wasting my life working? Excuse me for 10 minutes while I write a very small shell script...

  8. Debian by karma78ready · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I have Debian installed. I feel much better.

    1. Re:Debian by eneville · · Score: 0

      if you knew anything about linux you would not be saying that. all distros are more or less the same, it would have been more impressive had you said 'i have a non-windows os installed'. besides other things, there are more stable things you could be running, such as a bsd.

      you should probably run something such as nessus.

    2. Re:Debian by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 1

      "if you knew anything about linux you would not be saying that. all distros are more or less the same, it would have been more impressive had you said 'i have a non-windows os installed'. besides other things, there are more stable things you could be running, such as a bsd. you should probably run something such as nessus.

      If you knew anything about linux, you would not be saying that. All distros are not the same. There are differences, else there wouldn't be so many seperate distros. Running debian is clearly a different deal from running something like gentoo.

      And saying I "I have a non-windows OS installed" wouldn't have been anymore "impressive", it would make you look like the kind of idiot who doesn't especially like unix, but just hates Microsoft.

      There was no need to suggest that the grandparent used BSD and nessus. That's is just arrogance. Theres no way in hell you could be in a position to recomend anything to the grandparent; he's not asking for help or making a common error - it's none of your business. This part was just you wanting to fire off a "BSD is better" message, I'll wager, and it's irrelevant.

    3. Re:Debian by eneville · · Score: 1

      Its got everything to do with that. You cannot just say 'I use product X therefore I dont need to thnk about security' Debian requires the exact same administration as all other distros, and if I have to read about it then it's my business.

      The one benefit of OpenBSD over other nix platforms is that Theo puts more effort into cleaning the base install than any other nix. Besides that all other usual adminsitration tasks are required. Using Debian does not take away the threats, all it provides is hopefully a more stable install, I use it myself, but I would never make such a comments about it's stability as the OP did.

    4. Re:Debian by karma78ready · · Score: 1

      I just suggest that problems with viruses are much more common (and therefore may cause much wider damages) when you're running Windows os. I dare to say that Linux "market-share", although constantly raising, is not encouraging enough if you want to make yourself "popular" by writing another virus or just want to gain control over infected machines. The level of security that results from default installation settings of the OS is not the most important issue when you are hosting the stock exchange - they surely have their experts - but the enviromnet where the OS is running _is_.

  9. Name typo? by Yartrebo · · Score: 1

    Isn't it spelled Nymex, not Nyxem. New York egnahcxE Merchantile just doesn't make much sense as an acronym.

    Oh well, I guess virus writers are getting dumber by the day if they can't even spell their targets' name properly.

    1. Re:Name typo? by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 1

      Could be a pun: "Nix 'em". (Am I expecting too much?)

    2. Re:Name typo? by Rayin · · Score: 0, Redundant

      You spelled Mercantile wrong. I guess slashdot posters are getting dumber by the day :)

  10. the obvious response by know1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i know there will be people saying "oh my, running windows, sucks to be you" but if you look past the trollishness of these posts they actually have a point in this case. running windows as anything mission critical is stupid, it's a desktop system at heart, and an unstable one at that. running the bloody stock exchange on it is suicidal. theres always some dick who opens that dodgy email, so if your net is that important run the mission critical servers at least on some flavour of unix

    1. Re:the obvious response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your post starts with the claim that Windows isn't reliable enough for anything mission-critical yet you end with the rightful acknowledgment that in most cases it's plain user error and not system error.

      The key is not hiring incompetent sysadmins. Let one of those loose on any OS and you definitely won't end up with something that's secure.

    2. Re: the obvious response by gidds · · Score: 1
      in most cases it's plain user error and not system error.
      We're not blaming Windows for user error: we're blaming Windows because something like user error can bring it down! Any decent, secure system wouldn't allow mere users to do that kind of damage, no matter how stupid they were. That's what 'security' means.

      The key is not hiring incompetent sysadmins. Let one of those loose on any OS and you definitely won't end up with something that's secure.
      True enough. Trouble is, on Windows, by the time it's locked down enough to be secure, people can't do useful work on it...

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    3. Re:the obvious response by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You are assuming that they are running Windows based only upon the breakin seems to fit the pattern. However, nowhere could I find any reference to the OS employed. Did I miss it?

      Other OSs are not immune to security breaches. Moreover, I am surprised any securities trading firm would use anything other than a Unix like OS. Hence, if Windows were really used it would be a significant portion of the story that was neglected, i.e.: "how did it get there?".

      Does anyone know with certainty that Windows (whatever name) was the OS used in this instance?

    4. Re: the obvious response by tinglemania · · Score: 1

      "Windows, by the time it's locked down enough to be secure, people can't do useful work on it..."

      The way this should read..."INSERT OS NAME HERE, by the time it's locked down enough to be secure, people can't do useful work on it..."

    5. Re:the obvious response by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      You are assuming that they are running Windows based only upon the breakin seems to fit the pattern. However, nowhere could I find any reference to the OS employed.

      According to this document (PDF) describing the system:

      The Connection, Online and Scheme objects have OLE controls which make it possible to use these objects in visual development environments such as PowerBuilder or Visual Basic. Outwardly they differ from the above-mentioned objects only in the DO suffix in the name (ConnectionDO, OnlineDO, SchemeDO respectively). Internally they differ in the presence of additional interfaces that are necessary to establish communication between object and IDE.
    6. Re: the obvious response by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Trouble is, on Windows, by the time it's locked down enough to be secure, people can't do useful work on it

      Which is, of course, complete cobblers. Badly designed software which runs on Windows may make it substantially harder, but we're talking about a stock exchange here. The amount of money in question is easily enough to ensure that software which requires admin privileges simply doesn't exist.

      It's easy to make something secure - at least in theory. When you're dealing with a system which has well defined requirements, and people who are only likely to be using one or two systems as part of their work, it's really not that hard.

      Start with the basic premise that nobody can do anything. Group policies make this quite possible to enforce across an enterprise which is running Windows. Next, start dividing people into groups according to their job, and allowing those groups to do what they need, and nothing more, in order to do their job.

      Yes, this does take a long time. Yes, it is harder work than just giving them PCs and locking down anything which appears to be a security hole as and when you see it. But it's a helluva lot more secure. Just disabling the Windows Scripting Host and wrapping any admin scripts in a batch file which temporarily re-enables it would go a long way towards improving security.

      A bit of careful configuration at the server completes the task. Block all attachments in email, then let through what you think you need. That which is let through should go through a thorough virus scanning, from a virus scanner which receives regular updates, before the user even sees it.

      http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/ed itorials/dumb/

    7. Re:the obvious response by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 1
      Thanks for the reference, it certainly appears that this is a strictly Windows system.

      Just read elsewhere that in Eastern Europe (and I guess Russia) FOSS lags due to inertia and distrust of authority (and implicitly lack of knowledge). Look up Ester Dyson - says MS puts effort in training programs there, hence, their success.

    8. Re:the obvious response by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 1

      it's a desktop system at heart

      Um, no...

      NT Server just like Windows 2003 server has a shared code base with the desktop counterparts, but they were NOT designed as desktop only OSes.

      In fact NT's dominance was first felt in the server world, before Linux was doing much more than making Linus Giggle and collect porn via ftp.

      The reason Windows has been at the root of so much security concern is that Microsoft tried to please everyone, as people bitched and said they were screwing over business that made software when they made major revisions to the Win32 subsystem running on NT that broke these applications.

      Watch, you will see that even with Vista, as Microsoft tightens security even futher, more people will complain about crap program A not running right because it is doing crap rather than people saying, good job MS for stopping program A from doing crap on the OS.

      If Microsoft would not have tried to fully merge the Win9x compatibility world into NT for Win2k and WinXP, most of these security problems in the Windows world would never have existed.

      There would still be the good old pres CTRL-ALT-DEL to login, and using your administrator account would still be a big no no. But that broke applications from the Win9X world, and people bitched.

      NT was built with security at its heart and was (although not perfect, fairly secure in the timeframe of its usage pre-internet) - it even had C2 certification. Not much, but better than many *nixes have even accomplished.

      So ya you can call it a desktop at heart, but you are only talking about the Win32 subsystem, and not NT itself. You are also missing the Server versions, as they were more apt to break compatibility for security.

      I remember when NT didn't even have virus tools for it, it wasn't needed, as Win9x was the target of viruses, and they failed on NT because of the architecture and security differences.

      The internet started to change all that in 97-98, and with the move for compatibility of Win9X in Windows 2000, it got worse.

      All OSes have many flaws that could be exploited, and the ones that do get exploited are the ones with users saying, oh my OS is secure, I don't have to worry about it. NT users used to do that as well, and they were just as accurate in that timeframe of saying that as users of many *nixes of today are.

      Become a target, see what happens. Ten bucks, the minute Apple pisses off the hacker or open source world, viruses and hacks for OSX will surface like flies on crap. BSD underneath or not. BSD is a good model, but also remember BSD hasn't pissed off many people and painted a red target on it.

      Oh, and OSX is more of a desktop OS than Windows, technically. *wink

    9. Re:the obvious response by know1 · · Score: 1

      "In fact NT's dominance was first felt in the server world, before Linux was doing much more than making Linus Giggle and collect porn via ftp." i'm sorry mate but i just can't read the rest of your comment through these tears of laughter. for a start, i didn't even mention linux, i mentioned unix which has been kicking windows ass for a long time via the various flavours of bsd. sounds like somebody has a bit of a raw nerve there....oh a few lines later...blah blah... look we all know that the server editions of windows and the desktop editions are the same core parts, please stop making a fool of yourself. i don't care about "back in the day" even if NT was designed as a server system dirst, it's core has been moved to the desktop where we can all see it's stability first hand.
      ACCESS VIOLATION IN 0x0000789789

    10. Re:the obvious response by know1 · · Score: 1

      if these stupid users opened virus.exe on linux through theitr email, would it be as "locked down" then as it would eb on linux?
      puleeze

    11. Re:the obvious response by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 1

      i'm sorry mate but i just can't read the rest of your comment through these tears of laughter. for a start, i didn't even mention linux, i mentioned unix which has been kicking windows ass for a long time via the various flavours of bsd. sounds like somebody has a bit of a raw nerve there....oh a few lines later...blah blah... look we all know that the server editions of windows and the desktop editions are the same core parts, please stop making a fool of yourself. i don't care about "back in the day" even if NT was designed as a server system dirst, it's core has been moved to the desktop where we can all see it's stability first hand.
      ACCESS VIOLATION IN 0x0000789789


      Glad to see your ignore is willing to further the instability and insecurity Myth that REALLY doesn't exist at this point in Windows history.

      Keep up your religion, maybe you can get a "*nix Church of we know it all", tax write off.

      Go away now, you are dismissed...

    12. Re:the obvious response by know1 · · Score: 1

      for your information mate, i run a windows box, behind a linux firewall. just last week the mofo crashed and BSOD on every boot until a fresh install. it also killed my entire hard drives data (booted from a knoppix cd, that usually lets me back up before the re-install.
      this means i have lost all my music that i had recorded. music i have written. beats and basslines i might never recreate (although i know the guitar parts). if it weren'tfor the fact that most music software on linux is not a patch on the windows gear, i would be a full convert.
      to understand the amount of time lost to these crashes, to say i am being controlled in talking about it is an understatement.
      so fuck off with your fairy tales of a windows that is stable for anything other than just mundane web browsing(and then only when properly protected by a secure OS)
      seriously mate...i don't know who you're kidding with this fancy tale of a new unbreakable windows. granted it's come a long way since 98, but it's still an insecure unstable piece of crap
      ah i fel better for having got that off my chest. none of my real life friends understand computers so i've had nobody to moan about my data loss to.

    13. Re:the obvious response by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 1

      for your information mate, i run a windows box, behind a linux firewall. just last week the mofo crashed and BSOD on every boot until a fresh install. it also killed my entire hard drives data (booted from a knoppix cd, that usually lets me back up before the re-install.
      this means i have lost all my music that i had recorded. music i have written. beats and basslines i might never recreate (although i know the guitar parts). if it weren'tfor the fact that most music software on linux is not a patch on the windows gear, i would be a full convert.
      to understand the amount of time lost to these crashes, to say i am being controlled in talking about it is an understatement.
      so fuck off with your fairy tales of a windows that is stable for anything other than just mundane web browsing(and then only when properly protected by a secure OS)
      seriously mate...i don't know who you're kidding with this fancy tale of a new unbreakable windows. granted it's come a long way since 98, but it's still an insecure unstable piece of crap
      ah i fel better for having got that off my chest. none of my real life friends understand computers so i've had nobody to moan about my data loss to.


      Out of approximately 5,000 live systems one of divisions manages, the ONLY data loss in a Windows Environment that is NT based has been hardware failure.

      Usually a dying Drive.

      Also if you are not using an NTFS partition, you might as be running Win98, as FAT is damn easy to corrupt. NTFS takes work to corrupt.

      I would probably argure that your case is NOT more of a representation of the world than my example from just our one divisions 5,000 client systems, (and not even in a controlled environment - as the office and telecommuters push the normal).

      Should I give you an example of a major client that lost his artwork last week because OSX took a dive? Or should I give an example where one of our clients seems to have someone in their offices that is continually having kernel panic on their 'pre-exisiting' Linux installation?

      Would that mean they are ALSO very Unstable? Or would it just be another story of a computer going south, and usually hardware being the problem?

      Pick one, because your specifics can't be applied to only one senerio...

    14. Re:the obvious response by know1 · · Score: 1

      i dual boot on this machine and have for a long time ( i like the hydrogen drum machine on linux, only decent usable piece of music software) and over the years have had a few crashes/ data losses. every single time, it has been under windows and if you would read one of my earlier posts, i said that windows is unstable for anything other than mundane web browsing. which i'm sure is what these 5000 machines are doing, maybe a little excell? i'm sure they aren't running reason. those machines aren't being pushed to do real work.
      you seem like a fairly rational fellow, and believe me i have listened to your arguments, and yes i did actually read all of your first post after i replied the first time, but it's honest we are both too headstrong to come to any kind of agreement on this...so lets just agree to disagree eh....it's kinda cool. we both get to think we're right.
      see you in another thread,(and yes i know i'm an ass for saying all that after having my last say, so you're welcome to fire back...) but i'll just see you in another thread eh...stay safe, always ski in control ;|

    15. Re:the obvious response by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 1

      every single time, it has been under windows

      1) Go look up coincidence

      2) Do not use FAT or FAT32 partitions, only use NTFS for Windows.

      3) Stop viewing Windows through Win9x colored glasses, the NT line of Windows and the modern WindowsXP is dang solid, more than a lot of people that hate MS would even like to admit.

      and Take Care...

    16. Re:the obvious response by know1 · · Score: 1

      listen cocksucker, i'm not using FAT at all, purely ntfs, secondly, if you can't agree to end this dispute like a gentleman fuck you.
      i don't call something a coincidence when it happens repeatedly. please do not bother me with your flatulent presence by way of writing again.

    17. Re:the obvious response by know1 · · Score: 1

      ok, i admit that was a little rude to say the least...i have had a bit of a night on the electric soup if you know what i mean, but the thing that really made my blood boil was this
      "every single time, it has been under windows 1) Go look up coincidence"
      come on now, if a bunch of scientists were in a lab and kept getting the same results, (different from the control group) time and time again, and one of the scientists said "oh nevermind that, that's just coincidence", what do you think the other scientists would say to him? bear in mind i'm not saying windows hasn't improved a great deal it used to every day before the nt kernel, and i can sometimes go for as long as a week, maybe even a fornight without any major problems....but again i say to you...put these machines under intensive processor heavy loads and they crack eventually. you seem to be comparing windows 98 to windows xp. i'm comparing windows xp to linux. being misunderstood can be very frustrating.
      (sorry for the tirade earlier,etc)

    18. Re:the obvious response by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 1

      you seem to be comparing windows 98 to windows xp. i'm comparing windows xp to linux. being misunderstood can be very frustrating

      I was pretty sure you weren't comparing Win9x, but a lot of people that follow these posts get off into that mindset, so I was directinng that more in general than at you.

      if a bunch of scientists were in a lab and kept getting the same results

      I agree, but you see, our company has a couple of test labs, where we throw all kinds of senerios and crap at various OSes and software from our developers running on these platforms, to even development and beta versions of about everything.

      We have WindosXP machines that have NEVER crashed in over 6years (and that is including beta.) I have the logs on the systems.

      So I agree with you, but a case study of one person's computer and one's experience does not make for a solid foundation to define the stability of any OS.

      There are so many things that could have happened with your system, from non-noticeable brownouts, to hardware failure that is not surfacing under *nix, to even things I have seen where dual boot systems will not play nice with non-native File Systems and the *nix side will accidentally corrupt part of the FAT or NTFS structures on the drive, and then when the machine boots in to Windows, crash and data loss, which Windows didn't even cause.

      There are so many things that alot of poeple never even consider, and if they have one machine that is truly the 'exception' it does not mean it is the norm.

      If people were losing data like you have just because they are using WindowsXP, the consumer market would be running to Apple or some other company, and they are not. It is holding up in high stress business environments to little old ladies letting their cat eat the cords inside the case.

      I have been involved with NT since it was designed, and I to this date have NEVER had nor witnessed data loss what so ever on NT that was not a hardware failure. PERIOD.

      And unlike your 'one' machine, I have overseen and worked with literally 10 of thousands of systems doing things most people wouldn't even believe was possible.

      It isn't that I doubt what you are saying, I'm sure your data loss occurred when you were in Windows, but that does not mean it was Windows that caused it. You could have Flaky RAM, a slight temperature problem and Windows runs a bit hotter because you are using more the your Video card or whatever.

      Thanks for taking time to respond, and I apologize for the look up coincidence, it wasn't meant to be as harsh as it sounds now that I re-read it.

      Take care,
      TheNetAvenger

    19. Re:the obvious response by know1 · · Score: 1

      you make a lot of good points there, duly noted and understood. again, sorry for being a dick. see you in another thread, take care yourself

  11. But Russia has good hackers... by caluml · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is ironic, as Russia has arguably some of the best computer security experts in the world. Those that know how to exploit the holes can also advise how to secure against threats. I wonder if it's due to talented Russians leaving the country to work abroad?

    1. Re:But Russia has good hackers... by OverlordQ · · Score: 1, Funny

      Or due to the talented Russians writing the exploits for money?

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    2. Re:But Russia has good hackers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be exact it's Estonian's that's good.
      In the old days of USSR Russia pumped a lot of money into making them Pro in IT.

    3. Re:But Russia has good hackers... by szlevente · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not necessarily. Having the best security experts does not mean that they are also going to be hired as consultants for the stock exchange. Such juicy positions usually go to those having the best connections, not the best expertise.

    4. Re:But Russia has good hackers... by ettlz · · Score: 1

      I believe it's known as "poetic justice".

    5. Re:But Russia has good hackers... by In+Fraudem+Legis · · Score: 1

      Estonia? What's that, a stonehenge in Scotland? :P

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  12. Brave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I don't understand how all those large, important companies dare to run their systems on Windows if they need to keep them online 24/7.

  13. This virus has hit hard by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 0

    it's terrible, I hear the ruble is down to $0.000001 again...

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    1. Re:This virus has hit hard by saskboy · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. Tdwaterhouse.ca was reporting that 1 Canadian dollar was up to $57,580.00US. I'm going to buy Greenbacks in the morning if it's still like that, then purchase New York state and Nevada. I call dibs on Texas too.

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  14. You let M$ near your cash? by AHuxley · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why connect a consumer operating system to any part of a financial hub?
    Did someone want to play a game?
    Download a funny clip?

    Did you learn nothing from the cold war?
    http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/02/071 9247

    M$ is the Trojan horse, you add it to your systems and anyone can just walk in.

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    1. Re:You let M$ near your cash? by benjamindees · · Score: 4, Interesting

      the CIA, backed by President Ronald Reagan, aimed to bring down the Russian economy with dodgy software.

      too.. many.. jokes...

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    2. Re:You let M$ near your cash? by AHuxley · · Score: 1
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Merlin

      The CIA, backed by President Bill Clinton, aimed to bring down the Iranian nuclear program with dodgy Russian plans.

      With M$ you can bring the whole world down.

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    3. Re:You let M$ near your cash? by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1

      IIRC the russians complained a couple of years ago when the US govt. supplied them with the Excel spreadsheet/Access database they used to track US nuclear material, to help the russians keep track of theirs as they decommissioned some nuclear materials. "But there are bugs in the scripts!" they complained.

      quick google later... (a pity the washington post link no longer works).

      Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:14:26 -0400 (EDT)
      From: Dudi Feuer
      Subject: Microsoft bug causing serious nuclear risk?

      According to an article in *The Washington Post*, the US lent Russia
      programs with a bug that loses track of nuclear materials over a period of
      time. The software has been in use for 10 years, and the latest patch did
      not create a fix for the issue. Apparently, the Russians initially
      thought the bug was a trojan horse authored by the US. Then, after
      applying several patches, they realized it was an inherent flaw in the
      program, and most likely exists in the Los Alamos version as well.

          [Source: *The Washington Post*, 11 Jul 2001, A19
          http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/opinion/A4405 3-2001Jul10.html%5D

      Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:43:21 -0400
      From: Levi_M
      Subject: Microsoft bug causing serious nuclear risk?

      [...] The article goes on to say that the U.S. was warned of the security
      risks but has made no public comment on the matter. The article also points
      out that the U.S. no longer maintains (and indeed has destroyed) backup
      paper copies of their inventory: "To reconstruct a reliably accurate
      accounting record, the Energy Department may need to inspect all of
      America's nuclear materials -- a huge task that could cost more than $1
      billion and still might not detect the diversion of some material, should it
      have occurred."

      Among other obvious risks is -- always look gift horses in the mouth.

  15. Re:What stock exchange? by ktulu182 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Are you living in a cave? Russian stock market almost doubled last year. It was the most profitable stock market in the world in 2005.

  16. Ah, but they didn't say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1.) How big the exchange is.
    and
    2.) What computers they were using.

    1. Re:Ah, but they didn't say.... by TIMxPx · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's four 286s and an Apple IIe in Vlad Putin's cousin's basement.

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    2. Re:Ah, but they didn't say.... by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 1
      It's four 286s and an Apple IIe

      Shto?!! That is filthy, American lie! Stock exchange runs on top quality Bol'shaya Ehlektronno-Schetnaya Mashina! Look at picture!

      Is massive mainframe system! With boshoya power! As much as, er, four 286s and an Apple IIe ...

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    3. Re:Ah, but they didn't say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking bastards...

  17. Re:What stock exchange? by mattjb0010 · · Score: 1

    Russian stock market almost doubled last year.

    Yes, and the NASDAQ doubled in 1999.

  18. Has to be said... by skochak · · Score: 0, Redundant

    In soviet russia... *ducks*

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    1. Re:Has to be said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...the virus trades YOU!

  19. i know who did it.. by carlvlad · · Score: 0

    it was StarForce.. now can i have my $10k reward?

    1. Re:i know who did it.. by goga_russian · · Score: 0

      u know i want it to be starforce - for all the time i had to reboot... for all the times waiting for stuff to play.. ah hell.. personal grudge against starforce.. or right market crash... well Alesha... use non-Winduh computah. also shows how much people care about money there.. gee steve what shares? someone rushed the system to cover up laundering.. otherwise many know u mes with their money and they find u.. well russia big place.. prolly never find you.

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  20. In Soviet Russia... by Beowulf_Boy · · Score: 1, Funny

    Stock exchange gives YOU virus!

    1. Re:In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, stocks exchange YOU!

  21. That's what. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fells === causes to fall (as in "I felled a tree.", meaning "I chopped down a tree").

    So "Virus Fells Russian Stock Exchange" means "As the world waited for one computer virus to strike on Friday, another wriggled its way into the Russian stock exchange and knocked it offline.".

    1. Re:That's what. by bariswheel · · Score: 1

      ah, I see! thanks for the explanation! :-)

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  22. Re:Good by masklinn · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Probably the new way of bashing MS. Since M$, Micro$oft and MicroShit are now deemed uncool, retards have to find a new way of naming it, cause, you know, typing MS or MicroSoft is offensive or something.

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  23. Re:Name typo? No, it's intentional by noliver · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, it's an intentional change. A washington post article posted on /. a few hours ago explains:

    [The choice of the name Blackworm] runs counter to the naming conventions of the anti-virus community, which generally goes out of its way to bastardize the name it thinks the virus or worm author would like its creation to have. (For example, "Nyxem" was derived by transposing the letters "m" and "x" in "Nymex," which is the common shorthand term for the New York Mercantile Exchange, the worm's original target.)

  24. 'computer' virus crashes Russion Stock Exchange by rs232 · · Score: 1

    I posted this exact same story yesterday and it got rejected.
    Would the slashdot moderator please explain why.

    'computer' virus crashes Russion Stock Exchange
    Friday February 03, @05:41PM Rejected

    rs232.journal

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    1. Re:'computer' virus crashes Russion Stock Exchange by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because we don't like you.

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  25. Dumb people by Jacek+Poplawski · · Score: 1

    I use Linux. I don't have viruses. It is simple? Isn't obvious?
    They have virus in big financial stuff. They are using Windows for it. They are dumb people.
    It's their fault. It isn't fault of virus author. It isn't fault of Microsoft or Bill Gates. It's fault of dumb people!

    1. Re:Dumb people by ThePengwin · · Score: 1

      Noone would Attack linux! That would be like stabbing santy claus!!
      Sigh.... its always the dumb people. when will they learn??

    2. Re:Dumb people by rbannon · · Score: 1

      Good point. But why are there so many dumb people making money off of the MS enterprise?

    3. Re:Dumb people by Jetekus · · Score: 1
      Not the fault of the virus author?! Sure, they should have done more to stop this happening but the effects of a virus are ALWAYS the fault of the author.

      Remind me to stab you in the face if we ever meet - don't worry, it'll be your fault for not wearing a crash helmet.

    4. Re:Dumb people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you have it wrong.

      Most security in this world is dependant upon the user to recognise potential problems. :-P

  26. I have a really hard time understanding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...why some people feel compelled to leap to the defense of Microsoft under these circumstances. It's a large company, with colossal wealth and wall-to-wall lawyers, yet people such as yourself can't resist attacking those who criticise the company or its (mis)behavior. Even if the posts are by mindless teenage trolls, the fact remains that Microsoft doesn't deserve to be defended.

    So why do it? Are you employed by Microsoft in some capacity? Or did you blow the trustfund on Microsoft certification, convinced (erroneously...very erroneously...) that it would lead to fame and fortune within the IT industry? Do derisive jabs and barbed comments aimed at Microsoft touch a raw nerve with you?

    1. Re:I have a really hard time understanding... by masklinn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not defending Microsoft, I'm merely saying that this kind of behaviour is childish, stupid and unproductive.

      If you want to attack Microsoft, do it while still respecting what shall be respected (the name of the company), attack them on their security record, on their monopolistic behaviour, on their lobbying methods, on the personality or missteps of their leaders, that's fair game, and that's sometimes productive and at least somewhat interresting.

      Oh, and everyone deserves to be defended btw, no matter who one is or what one did, one deserves a fair trial.

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    2. Re:I have a really hard time understanding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill? Is that you? Geez, you have a beautiful wife, a big wad of cash and your still hanging out with Geeks!!!

  27. And on the moviefront... by David+Munch · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I would higly recommend "Hackers" from 1995. The movie takes place in 1988, and starts out with an 11 year old boy taking down Wall-Street! It even has a hothothothot Angelina jolie starring as _the_ hacker-chick... 8) http://imdb.com/title/tt0113243/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD 0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9aGFja2Vyc3xmdD0xfG14PTIw fGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;ft=23;fm=1

  28. My beef by Gricey · · Score: 1

    Is that M$ knew about this a long time ago, yet stood back and did nothing to help. Except for their premium customers, of course. It needs to be taken into account that there should be some kind of responsibility for these actions.

    Monetary damage has been inflicted, and the makers of the software had all the tools and knowledge to prevent this happening.

    If you made a car, and you knew that there was a flaw that caused it to stop working, you have a responsibility to recall the car / fix it for free.

    The same should apply here. Just holding back because it's 'not in your scheduled update cycle' is another example of their outdated practices. Admittedly theres always a lag for testing and so on with patches, but in this example it was already done because they were offering the update to their subscription customers.

    Grrr.

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    1. Re:My beef by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

      I'm tired of seing these posts, so I'm going to slap a little reality check on here...

      If I was MS, you know what I'd say to you? Fuck you. What are you going to do about it? Sue us? Hell, we sponsored half of the laws regulating the industry that we basically created, sue away to your hearts content. Class action lawsuit? Wooo, scary, heres lets say, hmm, a hundred million divided between our global customer base. The ones that haven't pirated our products. What will you do now? Blow up our software department? Fuh huh huuuck, you. We'll get the police, and if that doesn't give you pause, the army of the United States to deal with you then.

      We are microsoft. We are untouchable and all powerful.

      The above post may contain sarcasm and traces of irony. Please consult your GP before consumption.

    2. Re:My beef by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Of course, Russian mafia boss who lost money today might say just the same thing. Send Viktor and Grigori to say hello to the Microsoft board.

    3. Re:My beef by tdubya · · Score: 1

      Slashdot always has nonsense posts, and in this case it's nothing new. Had Microsoft released the patch and something happened, you guys would be bitching about how stupid they were to install the patch without testing it extensively on such important systesm. When they don't, you bitch that they didn't. Make up your mind

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    4. Re:My beef by Gricey · · Score: 1

      I fail to see how it's a nonsense post. The bottom line is, MS knew well in advance that this was a big problem, and acknowledged it, had a mechanism in place to fix the problem, and didn't. This is different from some random virus hitting en masse and doing damage.

      Saying that X people pirate the software isn't a counter-argument - it's a seperate issue. If MS want to lock out people illegally using their software, there are ways. They should however remain committed to ensuring the the users of their software are looked after.

      Microsoft software isn't free, people pay them for it, so I think it's fairly shitty of them to not look after its customers. After all, it [customer service] should always be a top priority.

      Do they have to do this? No. Should they have? Yes.

      That was my beef.

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  29. Obligatory... by David+Horn · · Score: 3, Funny

    In Russia, stock exchange fells you!

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  30. Seconded. by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    In every detail.

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  31. Groupthink (was: the obvious response?) by Gary+W.+Longsine · · Score: 4, Interesting
    running windows as anything mission critical is stupid, it's a desktop system at heart, and an unstable one at that. running the bloody stock exchange on it is suicidal.
    Although that might be a reasonable and rational statement on the surface, the fact is that Windows systems are now at the heart of critical systems everywhere. Although I'm surprised to see them playing such a critical roll in a stock exchange, I'm only a little tiny bit surprised, and mostly ashamed of my own instinctive reaction.

    When these decisions are being made, you may feel as though you're stuck in a slow-motion sequence in a horror film, leaping to save someone, someone very beautiful that you could care about deeply if only you knew them a little better, someone who doesn't deserve to be eaten alive by a vicious monster, or maybe they do, but you just don't know it, anyway you don't know it and you didn't thnk of that until later, much later, after years of therapy in fact, all the while, leaping in futile slow motion to save a fatefully doomed monster victim, certain of their inevitable doom, crying "Nooooooo!" at the top of your lungs to no avail, due to the slow-motion and your voice having been run through an under-water pitch-reducing distortion filter. Yet another heroine devoured by the monster, just out of arms reach... You think to yourself, "If only... If only... If only I hadn't been stuck on slow motion..." when suddenly realize you're not alone, and you're thinking out loud, reliving the nightmare.

    At this point a friend interrupts your navel gazing to say, "The monster would have eaten you too. Don't feel so guilty." whereas the cliche movie therapist would say, "How does that make you feel?" If you hear the former response, you're probably in meatspace, the latter, and you're still either dreaming or you really are a character in a horror film, and the monster is about to come crashing up through the floor or in through the window and eat your therapist.

    Windows systems can be found:

    • running U.S. Navy warships
    • running medical imaging, monitoring, and other life-critical devices
    • running train control systems
    • running nuclear power plants
    • running ATM networks and other aspects of the banking system

    Although it might be true that no rational and informed person would set up such critical systems on a system with the stability and security track record of Windows, remember that such decisions are typically made by a bureaucracy, not by rational and informed individuals. The field of psychology has studied this phenomenon and call it "groupthink".

    Groupthink
    Wikipedia on Groupthink
    A First Look at Communication Theory (Ch. 18, 3rd Edition)

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    1. Re:Groupthink (was: the obvious response?) by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Regarding the US Navy warships,

      1. Newport News Shipbuilding is awarded a contract for the first of the new "Ronald Reagan" class of aircraft carriers.

      2. Bill Gates gets out his check book and instantly becomes the second largest stockholder (owner) in Newport News Shipbuilding.

      3. Newport News Shipbuilding selects Microsoft to develop the warfare systems. Microsoft, a company with no experience in warfare systems, and a reputation for unstable, insecure software, will base the Ronald Reagan's warfare systems on an unproven operating system with 63,000 known bugs . . err, oops, I meant "points of focus" - Windows 2000.

      4. Press releases were sent out assuring us Bill Gates' huge investment had nothing to do with the decision. So see there, Doreen - what we did last month had nothing to do with your pregnancy - it's right here in my press release.

      5. Once Newport News is in too deep to bail out, Bill Gates will be free to sell his stock holdings and use the money to make sure some other company makes the "right" decision.

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      group think is definitely a factor, but there is also Chairman Gates' investments to think of .

      Along the same lines, back before The Register got all soft on Gates, the posted his major purchase. Actually it was made by his investment firm, such firms being almost textbook examples of group think, it was the deciding piece in realizing the US would soon enter protracted war. Such stocks are only 'undervalued' if prolonged war is planned. It's not like a shipyard can just squeeze out a carrier or two per quarter.

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    2. Re:Groupthink (was: the obvious response?) by westlake · · Score: 1
      Windows systems can be found:

      running U.S. Navy warships
      running medical imaging, monitoring, and other life-critical devices
      running train control systems
      running nuclear power plants
      running ATM networks and other aspects of the banking system

      What, exactly, have you proven here?
      The systems you have named are, by any reasonable standard, performing very, very well.

    3. Re:Groupthink (was: the obvious response?) by AoT · · Score: 0

      Except when the computers on the warship crashed and forced the Navy to tow it back to port. But, you know, other than a catostrophic crash everything is running great.

    4. Re:Groupthink (was: the obvious response?) by Gary+W.+Longsine · · Score: 2, Informative

      Agreed, in general they tend to work very well. Like the Space Shuttle -- which doesn't involve Windows so the example may allow you to see past the particulars of this incident, to my point.

      Note that one of the groupthink articles I mentioned discusses a Space Shuttle accident (Windows not implicated). A characteristic of that event was that there were plenty of warning signs that were ignored, "hey maybe it's not such a good idea to have a jet of burning gas flaming out of the joints of the solid rocket boosters and pointed at the hydrogen tank". It seems obvious in retrospect. When a worm disables the computer systems of a warship in battle that might seem pretty obvious in retrospect, too. But hey, for now they are working very, very well!

      It's also worth noting (I thought it was obvious, but apparently not) that there exist well-known examples of failures in many if not all of these systems, due to Windows security vulnerabilities including nuclear power plants. Many such incidents were coincident with worm attacks. Less-critical but very expensive failures of cash register networks, airline ticketing systems and so forth are also well known. Although perhaps not life threatening, they are very, very important to the businesses involved -- business critical is the phrase the MBA types use -- and can result in extreme financial damage to a business.

      The question so many people ask is why? The answer, I suggest, lay partly in the decision making process of organizations.

      I hope that clarifies the fact that I'm not blindly bashing Microsoft here, I'm mere suggesting that they have a long, long track record of quality and security issues which are not completely considered in the decision making processes which lead critical systems to be based thereupon.

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    5. Re:Groupthink (was: the obvious response?) by westlake · · Score: 1
      I hope that clarifies the fact that I'm not blindly bashing Microsoft here.

      When I look at the massive scale of deployment, and the stresses under which these systems operate, I do not see many failures.

  32. scheduled security updates by Gary+W.+Longsine · · Score: 1

    The liability questions that you raise are probably less clear-cut than they first appear. Much of the actual exploitation of which the industry is aware exploits vulnerabilities which have been long patched. Others have suggested that home users be held accountable (e.g. liable) for evil deeds done to other systems by their presumably unpatched home PC systems. However, when a vulnerable system can be 0wn3d in less than two minutes of exposure to the internet, it's clear that home user responsibility is problematic. The same arguments and complications with respect to responsibility (and there are other examples) apply to most of the viruses, worms and botnets that plague the typical corporate or government network. Many of the exploited defects were patchable, but not actually patched by the customer, by the time of exploitation.

    Nobody wants to fire the first liability shot, because the technical issues are complicated enough that nobody could predict how it might come out in a court room.

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  33. Overheard on the stairs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Eyal! Eyal! Get your arse over here. The kitchen's a fucking tip"

    "Sami what the fuck?"

  34. Their own fault? by Deadlee · · Score: 1

    With the amount of money invested in stock and the speed at which disaster can strike companies/people when a Stcok Market goes down, why on earth are they running an OS that is as vulnerable and unreliable as Windoze?

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  35. Re:Brave (This is not a snide response) by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Quite a while ago, I got a chilling view of how much effort MS was putting into perfecting "fallover" coding where for example a database server failed, would be automatically replaced by a mirrored standin. Though these efforts were targeted at database applications, which trading systems are a natural subset, in principle if this program were a success there would be little reason not to use Windows needing 24/7. However, what makes you think the Russian eschange would need such round the clock support?

    The reason not to have Windows in charge would security related. However, even there one could argue that if set up properly that concern would be obviated. Nonetheless, the tardy response that characterizes Microsoft too aptly (other than in rhetoric) and cost would be the reasons not to use their option.

    Windows has improved, so much so that the first time I used Windows NT 4 on assignment I did not reboot the machine, because there were no machine lockups. I last saw a blue screen of death on a network back when Windows was at best an environment: Win 3.x. It was only later when my results sets returned radically altered, without seeing any reason in my query code changes, taught me that Windows had developed a more subtle failure mode. Thereafter, reboots every week whether needed or not.

    One last point: no where in the article could I find what OS was actually being used. Are you presuming it was Windows or did you see some text I missed?

  36. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    +1 Insightful

  37. penalty by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

    I bet this is the _last_ major virus exploit in Russia. Once a few nerds are sent to a Gulag, they'll go back to attacking the US miliatry. I tend to believe the Russian penal system, especially crimes against the economy, will be dealt with a bit harder than what happened to say, oh, Mr. Mitnik.

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  38. This didn't require talent or security expertise by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

    Windows isn't the root problem here. Windows just made it easier for the root problem to show up.

    Why in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was it possible to install unapproved software on a mission-critical production network? Any boilerplate security policy would have forbidden that. After you get that much right, then it's time to think about implementation issues like whether to use Group Policy to lock down software installation or whether to avoid an operating environment that installs software just because you visit a web page.

    This incident didn't require the services of a hacker to prevent it. Nor a security consultant. A generic off-the-shelf sysadmin could have prevented this accident.

  39. Re:Name typo? No, it's intentional by Yartrebo · · Score: 1

    It was a subtle joke. I am aware of this.

  40. Eaten from the Inside Again. by twitter · · Score: 1
    we have a testing machine... connected to the internet of all things... AND connected to the same network the production system is running on... and evidently it's running on ms-windows...

    Yes that sounds like a bad idea, but what can they do about it? The article is not very clear, but it looks like any other office to me:

    Dmitry Shatsky, vice president of the Russian Trading System (RTS) said in a statement that a virus had infected a single computer used to test trading software that was connected to the internet. The entire network had to be temporarily shut down on Thursday as experts sought to isolate the infected machine and scanned others PCs for signs of infection.

    Nowhere does the article say the Windoze testing machine was not firewalled, patched, subneted and gingerly treated the way it needs to be. You might even assume, as it was a test machine, that it was not used to surf "untrusted" sites. Yet, it was owned. Non networked bank ATM machines have been compromised by technician's laptops. There's a pattern here ... if you are running Windows, you are going to have problems like this regardless of network configuration.

    I suppose they could further separate the testing machine. If they set up a wvdial modem box and stuck the Windoze machine behind that, they could limit the damage the Windoze machine can do. The problem is that they might need better bandwith for their tests.

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    1. Re:Eaten from the Inside Again. by Takumi2501 · · Score: 1

      Umm... correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't see any mention in the article of what OS the comprimised machine was running. What makes you assume it's Windows?

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    2. Re:Eaten from the Inside Again. by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      Occam's fscking razor...

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    3. Re:Eaten from the Inside Again. by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      I will eat my hat if it does turn out to have been running Linux and it was a Linux virus... I feel pretty safe however...

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    4. Re:Eaten from the Inside Again. by Takumi2501 · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying I doubt it. I was just wondering if ther was something I'd missed.

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  41. Ehhh, was kinda made to trendy by puto · · Score: 1

    Wargames was much better than hackers.

    Hackers was ok. Except for the clothes, fru fru parties, and all the pomp and circumstance that was akin to Weird Science bar wearing on the head scenes.

    Those kids looked like they were wearing Michael Jackson castoffs mixed in with wardrobe from breaking 2 electric boogaloo.

    I am 36 years old, and have been hitting the keyboards since around 1982, and been to many Ham Shows, computer clubs, and even participated in a little hacking in my time.

    I never knew any extroverted freaks such as those in the movie.

    I would reccomend.

    1. Wargames
    2. Max Headroom, movie and series. Everyone hacking everyone.
    3. The Manhattan Project - Hacking at all levels, without computers.

    Puto

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  42. Simple observation by Viraptor · · Score: 1

    1. As F-Secure writes, Nyxem deletes files with extenstions: DOC, XLS, PPT, ZIP, RAR, PDF, MDB.
    2. News said that deleting file was the problem.
    Ok so only one extension of those can be used on a file, that can be a crucial file, that system has to have to keep running. But PLEASE! TELL ME, THAT THEIR STOCK EXCHANGE IS'T BASED ON .MDB FILES! PLEASE!

    1. Re:Simple observation by Slashamatic · · Score: 1
      Nah, its probably Informix or something (MICEX used it).

      The issue is that the trading may use a sophisticated database, but there is still a lot of stuff going in the background where they use .doc files, .pdfs and .zips. This is all linked to the end of day processing at the exchange and is also vital. Note that the backend is usually *ux but the frontends tend to be Wintel and thus are vulnerable.

    2. Re:Simple observation by AndyElf · · Score: 1

      This is generally what you get for reinventing the wheel, if you wish. Difference in egislation, picuarities of clearing system, depository/regitrar system -- and yu can't easily put any of the western exchange systems in place. Couple that with distrust/paranoia and there you go -- *all* of Russian major exchanges are indeed very much Microsoft-friendly. It is piculiar in more ways than one -- there's a planty of good talent around, but very little in UNIX area, I would argue. Kids that played with Linux -- yes. Seasoned professionals that grew up on VMS/MVS clones -- yes. Security professionals and math gurus -- yes. Yet when it comes to implementation -- you get tons and tons Microsoft-based soft. You get tons and tons of closed and closely guarded software and protocols...

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    3. Re:Simple observation by Slashamatic · · Score: 1
      I was more involved with the currency exchanges (they also trade shares), They tended towards HP-UX with Informix. The same applied, I believe to the DCC (Depository Clearing Company), which served RTS, MICEX and so on. When I stopped working so much with Russia, thre was a big movement towards LinTel on the server side as the HP servers were expensive to run. The joke is that a lot of the Lintel platforms were deployed by stealth.

      I know that there is a big project on to reform the depository/clearing system and that some western consultancies are involved. They would almost certainly push Microsoft.

      (Had something to do with trading and settlement reform in Russia)

  43. Re:What stock exchange? by skochak · · Score: 1

    Hold it!
    Dont forget the Indian stock exchange!!! Not only is it scaling new heights and breaking all past records.. most big-wig financial power-houses are giving investors (FDI and local) the green signal and predicting massive growth, which as of now seems unstoppable.

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  44. Variation by eyepeepackets · · Score: 1

    In Russia, stock exchange runs Microsoft!

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  45. I know who wrote this virus! by thatrez00 · · Score: 1

    he used to go by the name of Zero Cool, but I think he calls himself Crash Override now!

  46. The Yorktown by westlake · · Score: 4, Informative
    Except when the computers on the warship crashed and forced the Navy to tow it back to port. But, you know, other than a catostrophic crash everything is running great

    This has become tiresome.

    The Yorktown (CG-48) was in 1997 a test-bed for the Navy's Smart Ship program. USS Yorktown (CG-48) Test-beds are driven to failure. In 2004,the year of her retirement, Yorktown was assigned to Strike Group Wasp, a vote of confidence, I would think, in the vessel and in the technology. USS Yorktown Deploys as Part of Expeditionary Strike Group

  47. Coincidence? by TwoScoopsOfPig · · Score: 1

    Is there anything to dissuade me of my idea that Nyxem could have been hyped by Mikrat to cover this RTS strike? Anything at all? The world focuses on Nyxem (which, in effect, didn't happen) and then the RTS goes down. Seems a bit too coordinated to me. "Nyxem" seems to be an anagram for NYMEX (New York Mercantile EXchange), a securities market, not entirely dissimilar from RTS. Perhaps the NYMEX people should look out for this being a possibility on their system(s).

    I swear I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this all looks too coincidental.

    Just my $.02.

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  48. Headline wrong by J.+Random+Luser · · Score: 2, Funny

    It should read: Russian Exchange trades in Computer Viruses

    acording to this story on Arstechnica. Altho' I'm getting a 500 error on their eweek reference...

  49. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  50. Re:Name typo? No, it's intentional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    subtle joke up your fucking ass loser

  51. Re:Brave (This is not a snide response) by qzulla · · Score: 1
    One last point: no where in the article could I find what OS was actually being used. Are you presuming it was Windows or did you see some text I missed?

    TFA kind of infers it:

    As the world waited for one computer virus to strike on Friday, another wriggled its way into the Russian stock exchange and knocked it offline.

    Computer experts had warned that 3 February could bring gloom for many as a computer virus called Nyxem was scheduled to start deleting files on machines it had infected.

    Nyxem is programmed to randomly delete Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents as well as pdf files, zip files and several other file types. The virus was released several weeks ago and has spread by forwarding itself to email addresses found on the computers it infects.

    But widespread damage failed to materialise and by early evening UK time on Friday several anti-virus companies said they had received no reports of incidents involving Nyxem. Patches against the virus had been released on 16 January.

    But a collective sigh of relief was tempered by news that the Russian stock exchange has been subjected to an attack instigated by an unnamed, and apparently unrelated, computer pest.

    qz

  52. word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in Russia even railway tickets info terminals run linux. Though u can't say it looking at the gui frontend.. i just happened to see one being booted.
    And a couple of small banks that i know here, in the backwater town in middle of nowhere run their backends on openbsd. So i guess that saying like, RTS runs something on "widows" sound like one has no clue.

  53. Re:What stock exchange? by jafac · · Score: 1

    Wow, and I thought that the Russian economy would collapse if they dared to send that one oil tycoon to jail. . .

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  54. I develop trading software for RTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    For obvious reasons I am posting anonymously.

    I am heading a group of developers building interoperability solutions for an RTS subsidiary - Saint Petersburg Exchange. Before we were able to connect our testing server to the RTS's internal network we had to sign about three pounds of papers, certify the server and the network. Among other things, the server that we were allowed to connect to their network was absolutely forbidden to connect to any other network (even to our firewalled up the wazoo intranet). What amaizes me the most is that while the RTS guys made us jump through so many hoops, they thought nothing of just connecting their (oh so protected!) network directly to the Internet.

    By the way, their trading system is written as a set of stored procedures for the MS SQL Server 2000. Until last Fall their primary VPN software ran on WinNT 4.0 only. Daily reports are sent to subscribers as FoxPro files.

  55. Re:Brave (This is not a snide response) by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 1
    I have been given solid information that indeed the Russian exchange was indeed based upon Windows* . Moreover, it described in detail the tool set used.

    Nonetheless, to take so called tech babble about the imminent attack of a worm expected to fire on the 3rd of every month to imply that a trading system was or even could be imperiled by a similar stupid attack mechanism has to assume the lowest level of competence was in charge. I tend to assume those in charge of critical systems are by nature both more knowledgeable and cautious.

    While I was obviously wrong on all counts, I think an article discussing a failure of a trading system should be much more explicit. Unix and Unix like operating systems are not immune to break ins, thus, it's nice to know this was not one of those cases.

    * - the link shown in the cited comment (http://www.rts.ru/common/rts_getfile.cfm?id=2361) was not working today.