Too bad Home Depot doesn't let you know that there is a different grade of goods made for their store. When you buy a water heater for example, it IS NOT the same quality as an identical-looking one in a plumber's supply house. Companies like Kohler, Milwaukee, Dewalt get paid to produce cheaper models for Home Depot. The friendly service is just foreplay while you get screwed.
I too work tech support at an ISP. The funny thing is, we have to support products that aren't really our problem. In fact, I'd say 90% of my calls are to support Netscape or IE. I have to get yelled at because Eudora blows goats or their Mac Performa isn't as internet ready as their brother-in-law swore it was. At least a half dozen times a week I'll take a call with a user demanding to know how to use whatever program they just bought and they get pissed when I explain I don't support the Corel Suite on a Mac or PC. Most of the time, I do get to help someone's Grandmother get onto e-bay or her email, which is always good. Get this, we even allow customers to bring in their machines for FREE if it's an internet related problem to be fixed. And guess what, people don't understand why we charge more for our service. In fact, they bitch because we're $2 a month more than the other provider in the area whose first line when you call for support is "call your reseller, you're not my problem" Providing tech support is an expensive pain in the ass, and while I hate it when I can't get it when I need it sometimes. I understand why some companies seem to blow it off.
You, good sir, could place a lump of coal up your anus and create a diamond, you worthless, non-employable, English Major. Oh, and while you're at it, I'll take a double-espresso.
I've just returned to plumbing(I can make much more money fixing sinks versus computers), and my company's policy is $50 a week for being on call, plus $20 for every call I take on top of my overtime pay. Which doesn't seem like to bad a deal, we usually throw in a double time rate for anything after 11pm or on a major holiday.
That's nice they are going to spend that much money on the special briefcases. I have a slightly better plan. How about NOT PUTTING NATIONAL SECRETS ON A GODDAMN LAPTOP. And on the occasion you do really need to, do the cliche and handcuff it to the couriers freaking arm. Let's see them leave it in a taxi then. Both the British and U.S. have had appalling breaches of security with portable computers and devices. What I think really needs to happen is for the system and or security admins to get more authority to tell some of these people how to operate. Give the admins enough authority to tell the little scientists and agents that "hey, I'm sorry you find this inconvenient, but, you're working with whatever national secrets. Too freaking bad, deal with it". Then maybe you won't have missing laptops and harddrives(Los Alamos) as often.
He is right, the average poster here automatically assumes Microsoft sucks. MS service packs are always free. Show me any OS that has shipped to be used on such a wide variety of hardware configurations and installed by the average computer user that doesn't have a few bugs in it. Microsoft's technical archive online is really good for when you get stuck. And here's some news for you Linux heads out there. Linux is in no fucking position yet to take over the desktop market. If you think it is come to work with me as tech support at an ISP and speak to the average computer user. Then we'll try to get them to untar a few files and attempt to compile some software. Apple pulls way more propietary bullshit on people and everyone kisses Steve Job's ass. Bill Gate's come out with a web browser that doesn't suck goat ass and gets taken to court by Netscape(really AOL and their browser sucks ass).
I'm curious to how this guy has his email server setup. Why doesn't he just set it up to only relay for his friends and not the entire world? With all the set up options and web mail packages out there, I cannot understand why he chose to leave his server as an open-relay. What's the problem with his friends logging in with a username and password? Again, there really is no excuse to have an open relay in this day and age. There are better solutions for what he is trying to accomplish.
While I will agree both MAPS and ORBS at times appear to have axes to grind, their databases are useful tools for filtering spam. I disagree that they are actually damaging the net. Yes, I agree the spammers themselves are mostly to blame. But, look at it this way, when an admin is either too ignorant or lazy to apply the latest patches and or service packs to their servers at a commercial website and a cracker comes in through a known exploit and steals client information. Who is more to blame? The cracker who got there first or the admin who failed to admin?
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I threw the don't reply in there just to drill it into people's heads. We had a client do that less than 24 hours ago now we have spam flying in from all directions.
As for your phone efforts, I'd rather see people call up their ISP's and bitch loudly if the server is open. There are several large ISP's out there that need a grassroots movement to force them to lock down their mailservers(surprisingly little actually comes from AOL, the header usually shows an AOL address to be bogus).You fight it your way and I'll fight it mine:)
Let me be a little less abrasive. By engaging in illegal activities like spamming the spammers, you one become no better and two set yourself up for legal trouble. Plus for all you know you could be attacking an innocent third party. Plus, the number one advice I can give is NEVER REPLY to a spam. All it accomplishes is letting a spammer know that your email address is real and suitable for adding to a CD mailing list.
Spamcop gets blocked now BTW because they come off a Mindspring mail server now. I have not followed your link just yet. But, I will state again, if you want to put a major dent in SPAM we should go after the open relays and spam havens. Let me put it this way, in the early days of automobiles before the ignitions required keys. Which put a bigger dent in the number of car thefts? Legislation against car theft or making it so you needed a key to start the car?
Going after individuals who send SPAM is a futile task compared to cracking down on ISP's that refuse to secure their equipment. Take a large ISP like, hhhmmm rhymes with Dearthlink, that allows any idiot to relay SPAM off their servers. They end up sending more SPAM overall than any individual spammer could dream of. And yes, I know that there are many.cn and.jp's out there that will make up for it but it's no excuse for any mail server inthis country to be left open for a spammer's needs.
Being the Anti-Spam monkey at my ISP, I'd like to see the sys admins get prosecuted for leaving their mail server as an open-relay. If you run a mail server and you leave it open to relaying you are part of the Spam problem. But, I'm glad to see someone finally get prosecuted for spamming.
Terrorist or Freedom-Fighter all depends which side you're on. George Washington was probably viewed as the worst traitor-terrorist by the British government, whereas he's our patron saint of freedom. Yasir Arafat. Terrorist? Or someone trying to free his people from the oppression of a foriegn invader? I guess that depends on which end of the artillery barrage on the refugee camp you happen to be on.
Wait, I think I can hear something. It sounds like a nail being hit on the head. I too am sick of it all. Of course, I just have to say it isn't just Americans doing bad out there, there was plenty of precedent to learn from.
Anyway, I'm sure the abuses in Tibet will end since I now have my "Free Tibet" bumpersticker.
This is an example of why Slashdot is listed under Sad Stupidity in my bookmarks. Never come here for news. Come here so you can hear the boys grinding their axes. Besides, Slashdot has probably crashed more servers than anybody by overwhelming sites.
I've noticed a trend with/. to have a lot of crap rants like this. The more people who hang out here and flame each other over it, the better/. looks to their advertising clients. I have stopped coming here for any real info or news (even the gaming news tends to be something that was posted on Blue's News or Voodoo Extreme two or three days before). All/. (I'm spelling it that way out of laziness, not to appear "l33t") seems to offer any more is half-baked agendas and lame Cowboy Neal jokes.
I know their idea of "news" is a bit shaky to start with. but,crikey,did anyone actually read the thing?it's a pretty standard TOS and I don't see any prohibitions on downloading anything.
Not that I don't think the current copyright/trademark/IP laws need a gross overhaul.To have none whatsoever would make it impossible to make a living at anything.
You have no concept of human nature do you?Service charges?How would you enforce them without a copyright?What would keep a studio from turning your book into a movie without compensation?Why doesn't a publisher deserve money for proofreading,editing,promotion,and printing?.
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Too bad Home Depot doesn't let you know that there is a different grade of goods made for their store. When you buy a water heater for example, it IS NOT the same quality as an identical-looking one in a plumber's supply house. Companies like Kohler, Milwaukee, Dewalt get paid to produce cheaper models for Home Depot. The friendly service is just foreplay while you get screwed.
I too work tech support at an ISP. The funny thing is, we have to support products that aren't really our problem. In fact, I'd say 90% of my calls are to support Netscape or IE. I have to get yelled at because Eudora blows goats or their Mac Performa isn't as internet ready as their brother-in-law swore it was. At least a half dozen times a week I'll take a call with a user demanding to know how to use whatever program they just bought and they get pissed when I explain I don't support the Corel Suite on a Mac or PC. Most of the time, I do get to help someone's Grandmother get onto e-bay or her email, which is always good. Get this, we even allow customers to bring in their machines for FREE if it's an internet related problem to be fixed. And guess what, people don't understand why we charge more for our service. In fact, they bitch because we're $2 a month more than the other provider in the area whose first line when you call for support is "call your reseller, you're not my problem" Providing tech support is an expensive pain in the ass, and while I hate it when I can't get it when I need it sometimes. I understand why some companies seem to blow it off.
You, good sir, could place a lump of coal up your anus and create a diamond, you worthless, non-employable, English Major. Oh, and while you're at it, I'll take a double-espresso.
I've just returned to plumbing(I can make much more money fixing sinks versus computers), and my company's policy is $50 a week for being on call, plus $20 for every call I take on top of my overtime pay. Which doesn't seem like to bad a deal, we usually throw in a double time rate for anything after 11pm or on a major holiday.
That's nice they are going to spend that much money on the special briefcases. I have a slightly better plan. How about NOT PUTTING NATIONAL SECRETS ON A GODDAMN LAPTOP. And on the occasion you do really need to, do the cliche and handcuff it to the couriers freaking arm. Let's see them leave it in a taxi then. Both the British and U.S. have had appalling breaches of security with portable computers and devices. What I think really needs to happen is for the system and or security admins to get more authority to tell some of these people how to operate. Give the admins enough authority to tell the little scientists and agents that "hey, I'm sorry you find this inconvenient, but, you're working with whatever national secrets. Too freaking bad, deal with it". Then maybe you won't have missing laptops and harddrives(Los Alamos) as often.
He is right, the average poster here automatically assumes Microsoft sucks. MS service packs are always free. Show me any OS that has shipped to be used on such a wide variety of hardware configurations and installed by the average computer user that doesn't have a few bugs in it. Microsoft's technical archive online is really good for when you get stuck. And here's some news for you Linux heads out there. Linux is in no fucking position yet to take over the desktop market. If you think it is come to work with me as tech support at an ISP and speak to the average computer user. Then we'll try to get them to untar a few files and attempt to compile some software. Apple pulls way more propietary bullshit on people and everyone kisses Steve Job's ass. Bill Gate's come out with a web browser that doesn't suck goat ass and gets taken to court by Netscape(really AOL and their browser sucks ass).
Monitoring is only bad if you are a criminal. The camera systems in England have dramatically cut down on street crime there.
Nematodes are worms dude.
I'm curious to how this guy has his email server setup. Why doesn't he just set it up to only relay for his friends and not the entire world? With all the set up options and web mail packages out there, I cannot understand why he chose to leave his server as an open-relay. What's the problem with his friends logging in with a username and password? Again, there really is no excuse to have an open relay in this day and age. There are better solutions for what he is trying to accomplish.
While I will agree both MAPS and ORBS at times appear to have axes to grind, their databases are useful tools for filtering spam. I disagree that they are actually damaging the net. Yes, I agree the spammers themselves are mostly to blame. But, look at it this way, when an admin is either too ignorant or lazy to apply the latest patches and or service packs to their servers at a commercial website and a cracker comes in through a known exploit and steals client information. Who is more to blame? The cracker who got there first or the admin who failed to admin?
I'd like to see the sys admins get prosecuted for leaving their mail server as an open-relay That was in jest
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I threw the don't reply in there just to drill it into people's heads. We had a client do that less than 24 hours ago now we have spam flying in from all directions. As for your phone efforts, I'd rather see people call up their ISP's and bitch loudly if the server is open. There are several large ISP's out there that need a grassroots movement to force them to lock down their mailservers(surprisingly little actually comes from AOL, the header usually shows an AOL address to be bogus).You fight it your way and I'll fight it mine:)
Let me be a little less abrasive. By engaging in illegal activities like spamming the spammers, you one become no better and two set yourself up for legal trouble. Plus for all you know you could be attacking an innocent third party. Plus, the number one advice I can give is NEVER REPLY to a spam. All it accomplishes is letting a spammer know that your email address is real and suitable for adding to a CD mailing list.
I stand corrected, I have read your anti-spam advice. I think it's stupid and is approaching the problem fromm the wrong end.
Spamcop gets blocked now BTW because they come off a Mindspring mail server now. I have not followed your link just yet. But, I will state again, if you want to put a major dent in SPAM we should go after the open relays and spam havens. Let me put it this way, in the early days of automobiles before the ignitions required keys. Which put a bigger dent in the number of car thefts? Legislation against car theft or making it so you needed a key to start the car? Going after individuals who send SPAM is a futile task compared to cracking down on ISP's that refuse to secure their equipment. Take a large ISP like, hhhmmm rhymes with Dearthlink, that allows any idiot to relay SPAM off their servers. They end up sending more SPAM overall than any individual spammer could dream of. And yes, I know that there are many .cn and .jp's out there that will make up for it but it's no excuse for any mail server inthis country to be left open for a spammer's needs.
Being the Anti-Spam monkey at my ISP, I'd like to see the sys admins get prosecuted for leaving their mail server as an open-relay. If you run a mail server and you leave it open to relaying you are part of the Spam problem. But, I'm glad to see someone finally get prosecuted for spamming.
Terrorist or Freedom-Fighter all depends which side you're on. George Washington was probably viewed as the worst traitor-terrorist by the British government, whereas he's our patron saint of freedom. Yasir Arafat. Terrorist? Or someone trying to free his people from the oppression of a foriegn invader? I guess that depends on which end of the artillery barrage on the refugee camp you happen to be on.
Wait, I think I can hear something. It sounds like a nail being hit on the head. I too am sick of it all. Of course, I just have to say it isn't just Americans doing bad out there, there was plenty of precedent to learn from. Anyway, I'm sure the abuses in Tibet will end since I now have my "Free Tibet" bumpersticker.
And isn't that a conflist of .org? shouldn't they be a .com if they are in it for commercial gain?
This is an example of why Slashdot is listed under Sad Stupidity in my bookmarks. Never come here for news. Come here so you can hear the boys grinding their axes. Besides, Slashdot has probably crashed more servers than anybody by overwhelming sites.
I've noticed a trend with /. to have a lot of crap rants like this. The more people who hang out here and flame each other over it, the better /. looks to their advertising clients. I have stopped coming here for any real info or news (even the gaming news tends to be something that was posted on Blue's News or Voodoo Extreme two or three days before). All /. (I'm spelling it that way out of laziness, not to appear "l33t") seems to offer any more is half-baked agendas and lame Cowboy Neal jokes.
I know their idea of "news" is a bit shaky to start with. but,crikey,did anyone actually read the thing?it's a pretty standard TOS and I don't see any prohibitions on downloading anything.
Not that I don't think the current copyright/trademark/IP laws need a gross overhaul.To have none whatsoever would make it impossible to make a living at anything.
Don't quit your day job.
You have no concept of human nature do you?Service charges?How would you enforce them without a copyright?What would keep a studio from turning your book into a movie without compensation?Why doesn't a publisher deserve money for proofreading,editing,promotion ,and printing?.