Peter Pan did not walk the earth. Jesus did. God has given miracles.
He did, too. I read it in a book. A lot of other people have read it. That makes it true. And Peter Pan taught people to fly, man. If that's not a miracle, I don't know what is.
200 years ago, most of the USA was filled with people who could not read or write. Yet, they formed a country with great prosperity. And they believed in GOD.
Yes, but for the millions of us who already live in those places and have to drive 40 miles to the nearest office buildings, can we please not go and raise the price too much? We'd be slightly screwed, as would whoever bought our house at half its original cost when we were forced to move.
Every country in the EU pays prices near the UK ones (maybe not quite as much). Nobody really moans (except a little if they go up even further), because that's what it always has cost. What does the EU know that America doesn't?
They know that they can gouge as much for gas as they want and no one in the EU will moan. Not really something you should be bragging about.
Who in the parentage of these posts said anyone thinks Supreme Court judges can't be Christian? Or even that Christian ones aren't preferable? Someone said that the Constitution makes clear that the government is a Christian one in response to a digression from an on-topic post, someone else said the early guys didn't think so, someone missed that point, I clarified, you made up a very weird argument in your head.
Yay, now that Tripoli's gone, we can have God back!
I think you missed the point. It was just an early acknowledgement that we weren't a Christian nation.
Not that it matters either way. The founding fathers, nice guys that I'm sure they were, are a little dead now. They could have meant for us to be a nation of Cargo Cultists for all the difference it makes. The government gets to make laws based on the piece of paper they wrote, not what they wanted. What that piece of paper says is whatever the current general concensus says it says.
I'm not concerned about the political leanings so much as I am about getting someone who doesn't think "The Internet" is a feature of premium adult diapers.
Even if the next guy were 25, you'd still have a 1-in-50 chance of getting someone that has a clue how to run Windows Update, and then you'd be stuck with him for 60 years.
I'd rather have someone who knew the ins and outs of what huge corporations are allowed to do than someone who knows FORTRAN, and that kind of stuff usually takes a few decades to learn and to demonstrate that knowledge.
Of course, the next guy will be picked based on who his golfing buddies are, but still, oldness isn't a problem for most issues. Provided they're in good health, of course.
Yes, copyright infringement isn't the same thing as physical theft, but, the end result is, for the seller of either, the same: They are deprived of the money that they are entitled to, for the goods they provide, under the terms they provide them as provided for under law.
If you can't be right in general, be right very, very specifically, eh? Since you've removed the argument from its context and this subject is boring as all hell, I'm not going to bother arguing. I'm sure somebody else farther down has made lots of good points for you to ignore.
Your straw man is largely uninteresting and not worth a response, although you're right, he does seem like a bastard. But I'll address this part:
They resent any attempt by anyone, regardless of stripe, to make money, unless the amounts charged fall within their definition of "fair" - despite the fact that such isn't theirs to define in the first place.
You both object to people wanting things to be fair and discount the opinion of everyone that doesn't meet your criteria of "good enough to define fair." You sound like a swell guy.
Oh, and I just can't resist:
Go ahead, then, if you must.
It seems to have affected your ability to write sentences:
People in glass houses shouldn't throw commas, AC.
Yes, I know that this is slashdot and I am going to get hammered on this one...
Since the mods aren't descriptive enough, I'll explain that the reason you're about the be modded overrated is not that you've expressed an unpopular opinion, it's just that there's no "giant logic flaw" mod.
A comparison between data copying and physical theft is always going to be wrong. There are good reasons that it's not good to download the stuff, but comparing it to swiping materials is just going to make you look dumb to the majority of Slashdot.
Most of the pay for networks give you the ability to preview music right? Sure it's often a small clip of it (itunes gives 30 seconds which I think is reasonable)
That must be some awfully repetitive music you listen to if 30 seconds is enough.
Five years ago when Napster was getting sued, everyone on Slashdot--editors included--rallied behind the idea that they should lay off the companies providing the apps and going after the individual infringers, because that was fair and logical.
Fair and logical, yes, but a jerky thing to do anyway.
You find it difficult to understand that something not worth seeing at $30 is worth seeing at $0? Are you similarly baffled by the appeal of sale prices?
I hate the guys as much as anybody, but the reason bittorrent users aren't as big a problem as the one they're worried about is because suing people works as a deterrent. It's not 100% successful, or even close, but if there was absolutely no risk in downloading the stuff, way more people would do it.
The odds aren't good that they'll sue you, and tons of people would gladly take that bet, but then there's people that buy lottery tickets every week because there's a chance they'll win. Those people are deterred, and the movie guys know that.
I wonder if Chavez is really interested in helping the US, or if he is more interested in turning poor people into communists?
Who cares? The nice thing about being a free country is that you're allowed to be communist, so long as you don't go around violently overthrowing things. If the guy thinks it's better and he can convince other people of that, good for him.
When do they start selling sandpaper with this stuff so I can ruin all my rich friends' wives rings and laugh at them? They totally deserve it for spending $300 on a ring in the first place. Stupid jerks.
We do respect the FSF. The GNU stuff is great, and I appreciate the hell out of the people that worked on it, but I'll never call it GNU/Linux or GNU, because "GNU" is hard to say and hard to type (shift-N-U takes more time than typing the entire word "Linux" for me).
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Peter Pan did not walk the earth. Jesus did. God has given miracles.
He did, too. I read it in a book. A lot of other people have read it. That makes it true. And Peter Pan taught people to fly, man. If that's not a miracle, I don't know what is.
200 years ago, most of the USA was filled with people who could not read or write. Yet, they formed a country with great prosperity. And they believed in GOD.
Good thing God gave them all those slaves, eh?
Not. Wanting. To. Work. For. Minimum. Wage. In. This. Crappy. Little. Town.
Yes, but for the millions of us who already live in those places and have to drive 40 miles to the nearest office buildings, can we please not go and raise the price too much? We'd be slightly screwed, as would whoever bought our house at half its original cost when we were forced to move.
Every country in the EU pays prices near the UK ones (maybe not quite as much). Nobody really moans (except a little if they go up even further), because that's what it always has cost. What does the EU know that America doesn't?
They know that they can gouge as much for gas as they want and no one in the EU will moan. Not really something you should be bragging about.
Who in the parentage of these posts said anyone thinks Supreme Court judges can't be Christian? Or even that Christian ones aren't preferable? Someone said that the Constitution makes clear that the government is a Christian one in response to a digression from an on-topic post, someone else said the early guys didn't think so, someone missed that point, I clarified, you made up a very weird argument in your head.
Yay, now that Tripoli's gone, we can have God back!
I think you missed the point. It was just an early acknowledgement that we weren't a Christian nation.
Not that it matters either way. The founding fathers, nice guys that I'm sure they were, are a little dead now. They could have meant for us to be a nation of Cargo Cultists for all the difference it makes. The government gets to make laws based on the piece of paper they wrote, not what they wanted. What that piece of paper says is whatever the current general concensus says it says.
I'm not concerned about the political leanings so much as I am about getting someone who doesn't think "The Internet" is a feature of premium adult diapers.
Even if the next guy were 25, you'd still have a 1-in-50 chance of getting someone that has a clue how to run Windows Update, and then you'd be stuck with him for 60 years.
I'd rather have someone who knew the ins and outs of what huge corporations are allowed to do than someone who knows FORTRAN, and that kind of stuff usually takes a few decades to learn and to demonstrate that knowledge.
Of course, the next guy will be picked based on who his golfing buddies are, but still, oldness isn't a problem for most issues. Provided they're in good health, of course.
If you say that theft deprives someone of a resource to which they otherwise would've had access, then violating copyright is theft.
As are taxes and obsolescence. Let's still just call them taxes and obsolescence, though, 'kay?
Nope. You're lowering the value of someone's product by giving away copies for free.
If they have the key already, why are they bothering?
Here we go again, again.
Yes, copyright infringement isn't the same thing as physical theft, but, the end result is, for the seller of either, the same: They are deprived of the money that they are entitled to, for the goods they provide, under the terms they provide them as provided for under law.
If you can't be right in general, be right very, very specifically, eh? Since you've removed the argument from its context and this subject is boring as all hell, I'm not going to bother arguing. I'm sure somebody else farther down has made lots of good points for you to ignore.
Your straw man is largely uninteresting and not worth a response, although you're right, he does seem like a bastard. But I'll address this part:
They resent any attempt by anyone, regardless of stripe, to make money, unless the amounts charged fall within their definition of "fair" - despite the fact that such isn't theirs to define in the first place.
You both object to people wanting things to be fair and discount the opinion of everyone that doesn't meet your criteria of "good enough to define fair." You sound like a swell guy.
Oh, and I just can't resist:
Go ahead, then, if you must.
It seems to have affected your ability to write sentences:
People in glass houses shouldn't throw commas, AC.
"lobotamy" is generally spelled "lobotomy"
Oh, crap! You're right! I'm so ashamed.
Rather than telling somebody who knows what the law is that they are making a mistake, do something to try to change the law.
His logic is flawed. I didn't say I didn't like the law.
Yes, I know that this is slashdot and I am going to get hammered on this one...
Since the mods aren't descriptive enough, I'll explain that the reason you're about the be modded overrated is not that you've expressed an unpopular opinion, it's just that there's no "giant logic flaw" mod.
A comparison between data copying and physical theft is always going to be wrong. There are good reasons that it's not good to download the stuff, but comparing it to swiping materials is just going to make you look dumb to the majority of Slashdot.
Most of the pay for networks give you the ability to preview music right? Sure it's often a small clip of it (itunes gives 30 seconds which I think is reasonable)
That must be some awfully repetitive music you listen to if 30 seconds is enough.
I see. But your premise that significant numbers of people are avoiding movies because the box office gross is low is questionable.
Five years ago when Napster was getting sued, everyone on Slashdot--editors included--rallied behind the idea that they should lay off the companies providing the apps and going after the individual infringers, because that was fair and logical.
Fair and logical, yes, but a jerky thing to do anyway.
You find it difficult to understand that something not worth seeing at $30 is worth seeing at $0? Are you similarly baffled by the appeal of sale prices?
Um... So, actual_profit = revenue - production_cost*2?
Is this a weird contractual thing in Hollywood or a misunderstanding of the word "profit?"
I hate the guys as much as anybody, but the reason bittorrent users aren't as big a problem as the one they're worried about is because suing people works as a deterrent. It's not 100% successful, or even close, but if there was absolutely no risk in downloading the stuff, way more people would do it.
The odds aren't good that they'll sue you, and tons of people would gladly take that bet, but then there's people that buy lottery tickets every week because there's a chance they'll win. Those people are deterred, and the movie guys know that.
Give it a minute.
I wonder if Chavez is really interested in helping the US, or if he is more interested in turning poor people into communists?
Who cares? The nice thing about being a free country is that you're allowed to be communist, so long as you don't go around violently overthrowing things. If the guy thinks it's better and he can convince other people of that, good for him.
No, you're right. Clearly I do intend to go around destroying other people's rings as soon as it becomes feasible. You got me.
a) Apparently I'm not very funny.
b) The part about "sandpaper with this stuff" wasn't very clear I guess, huh?
When do they start selling sandpaper with this stuff so I can ruin all my rich friends' wives rings and laugh at them? They totally deserve it for spending $300 on a ring in the first place. Stupid jerks.
We do respect the FSF. The GNU stuff is great, and I appreciate the hell out of the people that worked on it, but I'll never call it GNU/Linux or GNU, because "GNU" is hard to say and hard to type (shift-N-U takes more time than typing the entire word "Linux" for me).