There has been a lot of discussion in the free software community lately about giving the GPL contractual terms to make it stronger. What do you think about this route?
The GPL does not require them to let you download the source.
The GPL requires you to offer, for an at-cost charge, the source on the same format you offered the binaries. Thus, if Mandrake only sold the CD's, then they would be required to put the source on a CD and offer that to anyone who bought the binary CD
Offering ISO's on the website is a long-standing tradition of distros, but it isn't required. In fact, Lindows doesn't.
He shouldn't face punishment for carrying out his livelihood in a nation the US "doesn't approve of". He could play fucking Chess in Iraq and make millions for the Iraq government. That's his fucking right.
Do you think before posting? Do you read the articles? It's not a US sanction, it's a UN sanction.
Yes, Fischer has some obnoxious views, and has said some cruel and hateful things about the Jews, and has said some outrageous things about 9/11.
Yeah, you attempt to rationalize his views several times, but he claims the Holocaust was made up. The guy's lost it.
He is the only US citizen who has brought honor to the US in the chess arena -- the only American who's ever been anything in chess.
Finally, the Washington Post (probably one of the last articles we post from their site, as they go registration-required)
Oh, right, because we all know that Slashdot never posts articles from The New York Times, which is also registration-required.
From http://www.gnome.org: GNOME is part of the GNU project, and is free software (some times referred to as open source software.)
It's a GNU project. RMS is the leader/founder of GNU. He's the president of the FSF. He may not be polished, or a politican, but he's their leader.
Yes. Open source rejects his ideals of freedom. This is not new, nor should it surprise you.
It's very simple. Free Software has 4 requirements. You can read these here: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Maybe someone needs to explain to RMS that not all recipes are available to public inspection. See: Coca-Cola formula, KFC seven herbs and spices formula.
Well...no. Imagine your friend buys a recipie book, and cooks you a dinner. You like it, and ask for the recipie. She tells you her (slightly changed) version of it. You go home, and make it. You can't do that with non-free software.
But then it takes away the right to keep the changes to yourself. So much for freedom.
Again, wrong. You don't have to tell people the changes. You only have to show the changed if you re-release the software. IOW, you can't build non-GPL'd products off of GPL'd products.
Did he also happen to cite the fact that so many of these companies are going tits up lately?
Last time I checked, IBM was doing fine. So was hp.
Well, no, not quite. For the sake of an example, let's move out of the software world.
In America, in order for your car to be legal, it must have brake lights, headlights, an illuminated (sp?) license plate, and some device for signaling.
This law is similar. These are the rules for software companies to go by. It's the same idea.
Yes. The KSU police bought M16's. Very good. You can read headlines. Now let's read the whole story, which noone seems to do around here.
The fact is, KSU police always have carried rifles in their cars. It's SOP. And those rifles are getting old. The military had a bunch of old M16's that they wanted to sell. They are selling them CHEAP. KSU thought "Here's a good deal, we get our guns, and we save people money."
It doesn't really matter what the police carry. Think about it. Will being shot by an M16 be any different than a rifle? No. It's going to hurt like Hell, and you may die. No matter what you get shot with. M16's are good guns; they are easy to clean, easy to train with, and can take a lot of abuse. And they were coming at a great price. But because of the school's history, and the fact that people are still upset about the shootings 31 years ago, the KSU police have decided not to use them.
I go to Kent. Our sidewalks are in horrible shape. We could use new dorms, since most are 40 years old and some have been shut down due to the large number of building code violations. We are tight for money, and now the police are going to have to spend a large amount of money instead of a little.
I don't see this said anywhere else, so I'll throw my $0.02 in. It seems to me that articles like this make companies think that they should ship ASAP, instead of when the product is done. No, 2.4 isn't out yet. That's because it isn't done. And given that it's only 1 month after the PROJECTED release date, that's not too bad.
And Apple's OSX - they aren't done either. Tribes 2 is full of bugs, and it isn't done. I hope companies don't listen/read these. I'm happy to wait for a finished product. Release it when it's done, not when it's due.
I think one of the things that makes us (the tech community) look bad here is that the writers of the program won't stand up and say "I did it." It's great that John is standing up to everyone like this, but where are the other members of MoRE? If DeCSS isn't wrong, why are they hiding? I call for those two to stand up and say "I wrote it, I'm proud of it, and I have the write to keep writing software like it."
Well, yes, that's true. But, at the same time, every bit (or, in this case, byte:) counts. I guess it's old fasioned, but I still worry about little stuff like this. I'm constantly trying to save space (I have a 6 gig drive). For instance, I have only one theme for Enlightment. I don't have any other managers installed (other than gnome, but that's required for E). I have one game, (quake3), but I back up the savegame data and uninstall it everytime I finish playing it.
Thanks for all of your hard work. I just started use Moz and I've been really impressed. What you guys have done is impressive, and wonderfull. The fact that you are still going to work on it even though you are not "working" on it just shows how much you really care about the project.
But the icons themselves must take up more space on your hard drive. I mean, what's bigger (in terms of bytes), a small icon or a giant one. Since I would never make them their full size, it's a waste of space.
I have to admit, though - that "genie in a bottle" effect is nice.
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There has been a lot of discussion in the free software community lately about giving the GPL contractual terms to make it stronger. What do you think about this route?
The GPL requires you to offer, for an at-cost charge, the source on the same format you offered the binaries. Thus, if Mandrake only sold the CD's, then they would be required to put the source on a CD and offer that to anyone who bought the binary CD
Offering ISO's on the website is a long-standing tradition of distros, but it isn't required. In fact, Lindows doesn't.
If a girl shows her best friend her diary, does it suddenly stop becoming a diary, and become something else?
Look at the definition of a diary, and tell me where it says diaries can't be published.
Do you think before posting? Do you read the articles? It's not a US sanction, it's a UN sanction.
Yes, Fischer has some obnoxious views, and has said some cruel and hateful things about the Jews, and has said some outrageous things about 9/11.
Yeah, you attempt to rationalize his views several times, but he claims the Holocaust was made up. The guy's lost it.
He is the only US citizen who has brought honor to the US in the chess arena -- the only American who's ever been anything in chess.
These guys may disagree with you.
Movies like "Searching for Bobby Fischer" and biographies of him were made, yet he's received no compensation.
Searching for Bobby Fischer had nothing to do with Bobby Fischer at all. Why should he be compensated for it?
AOL works on Macs.
Finally, the Washington Post (probably one of the last articles we post from their site, as they go registration-required) Oh, right, because we all know that Slashdot never posts articles from The New York Times, which is also registration-required.
I have no details, but: One time, a friend of mine who was duel-booting ran the standard win98 defrag.
It ignored the partition tables and screwed everything up. It attempted to defrag the whole ard drive instead of just the C: drive.
He was running RedHat 6.2 at the time, IIRC.
http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong That scared the living shit out of me.
The monitor may not require a special OS, but TechTV's review sure does.
I'm in Ohio; I own both Bad Taste (2 disc) and Dead Alive (1 disc).
From http://www.gnome.org: GNOME is part of the GNU project, and is free software (some times referred to as open source software.) It's a GNU project. RMS is the leader/founder of GNU. He's the president of the FSF. He may not be polished, or a politican, but he's their leader.
Open source software does not meet all 4.
Oh, I dunno, gcc 3.0, maybe? Or GNOME?
Yeah, I was just kidding :)
It's just an observation.
Don't mod me up for this.
Great. So they name the AI after 2001, and they get marketing lines from Bladerunner.
I'm thinking this could be bad....
Well...no. Imagine your friend buys a recipie book, and cooks you a dinner. You like it, and ask for the recipie. She tells you her (slightly changed) version of it. You go home, and make it. You can't do that with non-free software.
But then it takes away the right to keep the changes to yourself. So much for freedom.
Again, wrong. You don't have to tell people the changes. You only have to show the changed if you re-release the software. IOW, you can't build non-GPL'd products off of GPL'd products.
Did he also happen to cite the fact that so many of these companies are going tits up lately?
Last time I checked, IBM was doing fine. So was hp.
In America, in order for your car to be legal, it must have brake lights, headlights, an illuminated (sp?) license plate, and some device for signaling.
This law is similar. These are the rules for software companies to go by. It's the same idea.
The fact is, KSU police always have carried rifles in their cars. It's SOP. And those rifles are getting old. The military had a bunch of old M16's that they wanted to sell. They are selling them CHEAP. KSU thought "Here's a good deal, we get our guns, and we save people money."
It doesn't really matter what the police carry. Think about it. Will being shot by an M16 be any different than a rifle? No. It's going to hurt like Hell, and you may die. No matter what you get shot with. M16's are good guns; they are easy to clean, easy to train with, and can take a lot of abuse. And they were coming at a great price. But because of the school's history, and the fact that people are still upset about the shootings 31 years ago, the KSU police have decided not to use them.
I go to Kent. Our sidewalks are in horrible shape. We could use new dorms, since most are 40 years old and some have been shut down due to the large number of building code violations. We are tight for money, and now the police are going to have to spend a large amount of money instead of a little.
Think before you speak.
And Apple's OSX - they aren't done either. Tribes 2 is full of bugs, and it isn't done. I hope companies don't listen/read these. I'm happy to wait for a finished product. Release it when it's done, not when it's due.
Umm...then download Freeciv and stop your bitchin
I think one of the things that makes us (the tech community) look bad here is that the writers of the program won't stand up and say "I did it." It's great that John is standing up to everyone like this, but where are the other members of MoRE? If DeCSS isn't wrong, why are they hiding? I call for those two to stand up and say "I wrote it, I'm proud of it, and I have the write to keep writing software like it."
Silly, I know, but hey, I have lots of space :)
Again, thanks.
I have to admit, though - that "genie in a bottle" effect is nice.