Ah. I see. It sounds like you are using a custom built desktop replacement notebook. Sounds like a nice machine BTW. You're right. To get ALL that stuff like you've got in your bespoke "notebook" you'll have to go to an Apple professional-class desktop.
Are you *carrying* that behemoth notebook around that much? If not, why not get a 15 inch MBP and hook a 30" Cinema Display up to it? Just wondering.
I agree. I've owned a great many laptops (currently have four inc. one Mac iBook). Most were for "corporate" use. I've never had a dock be anything but trouble as connectors get worn or dirty. Crashes galore and other sorts of problems. MY GF's little HP notebook even got stuck in the dock. The problem was electrical not mechanical as the dock had an electricly operated "ejector" that wouldn't eject. Cleaning connectors fixed the prolem. Notebook docks are basically for dorks.
I think you are trolling Apple fans, but just for once, I'll bite:
"Who again is NOT totally angered that Apple won't offer high resolution displays. Comparing the pixel count to their 20" Display is SAD, SO SAD..."
I'm not. The resolution of the 17" MBP is the same as my 17 inch HP notebook. High quality 1080p video scales and plays just fine on the MBP. 30 extra pixels would be nice, but since all my notebooks are for writing code when I'm on the road, who cares?
"I was really hoping they would offer people that work with graphics (even as a hobby) a high resolution display."
Errm. it IS a high-resultion display. You're really concerned about those 30 pixels aren't you? Are you editing HD video in 1080p? I didn't think so. I know folks who DO edit HD content for a living and I'll bet they're not bitching about 30 pixels missing on their MBP's.
"I can at least play WMV HD 1080p on my 1yr old 17" laptop, why in HECK can't I play that resolution of Video or Movies on a Mac of all things."
I'll bet you don't. Who uses.wmv anyway? That's a totally shite format, un-portable to anything else without standing on your head. For just WATCHING HD content, nobody will notice that 30 pixels except professional editors.
"Why is Apple the cheap version of what I can buy from Dell?"
It totally ISN'T the same thing. The Dell can't legally run OS X. The Dell doesn't have a built-in video camera. The Dell doesn't have Firewire 800. The Quadro video is pretty bitchin' I'll admit. The drive options are the same for the Dell. I guess, if ALL you look at is the video chipset, then the Dell rocks. I don't think many people are gonna do that. They're gonna look at the sleek Apple enclosure, the clean, beautiful UI, and UNIX reliability and they're gonna pay the extra bucks for the MBP. The Dull just doesn't cut it.
"I don't quite see how socketed CPUs are a surprise in the x86 world. "
The Mac Mini motherboard is very similar to many laptop motherboards. Most laptop mb's have soldered CPU's. I was surprised that for reasons of space and expense that they socketed the chip, allowing users to very easily drop in a Merom proc. The Macbook Pro has a soldered CPU.
"The reality is that Apple is moving towards a Windows-based offering built on Intel hardware. Users would see Windows no more than they see Unix today. NeXT on Windows instead of NeXT on Unix. All the goodness of the Mac GUI, but the ability to run Windows software, and less expensive, better performing hardware."
This particular trollish comment keeps appearing in one form or another lately. It is completely retarded. Apple doesn't need to introduce a Windows-based offering. They will have virtualization built-in to the next major release of OS X. Virtualization is a better choice for most users than dual-boot and it keeps the Apple OS in front of new users to better aquaint them with the benefits of OS X. For others there will be nicely packaged versions of the popular dual-boot "hack".
This sort of thing is already available in many forms. For Mac users its in the form of the EyeHome unit from elgato. http://www.elgato.com/ The EyeHome unit accesses media content from any Mac in your home network and displays it on your TV. It requires a small server (OK, maybe not so small - its a modded version of Tomcat) to be installed on the Macs you want to access. The EyeHome unit can then access all the media in your music and movies folders etc. I've been using this for a while and its a good alternative to having your EyeTV computer next to your TV.
I'm not taking up for the pirates. I buy all my media content. I am trying to point out (as are many many other posters in this thread) that:
A) Copyright infringement is not theft. It is usually a tort unless the person doing the infringing is selling the copied product. (IANAL)
B) You have been duped into believing that piracy = theft. This is what the RIAA/MPAA want you to believe. Its easier for the masses to grasp than the actual legal definition AND it plays into their game better.
"Regardless of the rationalization there is no difference taking content this way and going to a store and stealing a CD or DVD."
Complete and utter hogwash! Stealing the CD or DVD deprives the merchant of goods, copying a CD or DVD doesn't deprive anyone of goods!
Depriving someone of their property equals stealing Copyright infringement does NOT equal stealing, because no one is deprived of their goods or access to their goods. It MIGHT deprive retailers etc of sales. Deprivation of sales does NOT equal theft.
You left out the proper OS. You seem to be suggesting doing this on Windows! ? Yikes! A better way would be to run Windows in VM's only when you need Windows sessions. Host them on Linux. You'll get better support for multiple monitors that way. Spyware could still be a problem, but a contained one, since the firewall on the host could detect outgoing spyware/trojan connection attempts.
We're a distributor of industrial "stuff". We're using Exchange for email. Our salesmen try to use their email accounts for all kinds of crap in addition to getting dozens to hundreds of emails each every day. We regularly delete pr0n, music and all sorts of stuff from their accounts. We don't have a posted size limit (we should) and just force the worst abusers to delete stuff or archive it to a network drive. Mostly we just delete the old stuff and they never notice. We not so gently remind our users that its the company's mail and server and the "company" can delete that stuff if it needs to do so. We probably need a more stringent published policy. The hard part is getting someone high enough in management to enforce it. Until someone above the IT department makes a policy and enforces it, its just gonna be a continuing headache. One thing that has helped us deal with the crap these guys email and download are our new firewalls. We just installed Fortinet boxes at HQ and at all the branches. http://www.fortinet.com/
These boxes (called Fortigates by Fortinet) are very easy to configure and don't cost too much. They have a nice web interface and work with Fortinet's subscription service. The subsription service provides AV defs, whitelist and blacklist for web addresses and email etc. The boxes are really do-it-all solutions. We could have done the same thing via a do-it-ourselves Linux box, but the folks that have traditionally supported the firewalls here, while linux-friendly, don't have the time to install and configure something like that from scratch. Plus there would be the nagging worry that we had mis-configured something, leaving a nasty security risk. The Fortinet firewall appliances have taken care of that worry. AFAIK, Fortigates run a Linux distro with proprietary "bits and pieces" added in. The Fortigates have cut down on the trash that gets downloaded as well as the junk mail the sales types were getting from web sites they shouldn't (and now can't) go to in the first place.
Somebody mod the OTRS posts up! Its a really good OSS solution!
The Open Ticket Request System is used by lots of commercial entities. We're using it around here and it works well. The latest version is a pretty big improvement on an already pro quality product. Its easy to change the graphics to reflect your company's look and feel. The price is right (free and OSS) and commercial support is available (we haven't needed it). FWIW, we have about 200 users and the OTRS stuff is running on pc class hardware along with some other applications. We're using SuSE Linux 9.3 on the OTRS box.
One post here on OTRS complained that it was hard to set up. Don't know why he found it hard to setup, unless he was trying to run it on Windows (which works but is still not completely QA'ed). OTRS ships with SuSE Linux, and I think its included in OpenSuSE. The SuSE version worked for me right out of the box. I'm not an admin, (I just write software) and it was very easy for me to install and configure. We've upgraded it once since we installed it. The upgrade required a little knowledge of MySQL (just a little). You're an admin right? You'll probably have no problems installing from scratch via tar file etc. If you use an RPM just make sure it puts things where you're distro expects them. Or just run it on SuSE/OpenSuSE.
Our users like the web interface. There's also an email interface, but we're not using it at this time (we're waiting on the guy who admins the exchange server to "get around" to setting up forwarding).
Windows is the "top server OS" in sales. The article doesn't include free downloads and other kinds of Linux installs in 2005, just sales. I wonder what the statistics for servers installed in 2005. I also wonder how Linux stacks up in the overall number of servers in use compared to Windows. Isn't Solaris still the most used server on the web? A cursory google didn't turn up much on this. Anybody have current statistics?
My faithful dual monitor dual 1 ghz PIII box died this summer. Its untimely death lead to the purchase of 2 iMacs G5's both with external monitors and screen-spanning hack (1 gb of RAM in the GF's and 1.5 in mine. There's a cheesy DSL modem/firewall/access point (belongs to GF) connected to 2 8-port gigabit switches. The living room has a Mac Mini connected to the GF's television. There's an EyeTV on my iMac and a half-terabyte raid array for PVR storage. I can get to the PVR content from all the PC's using CyTV. There's also an EyeHome unit on one of bedroom TV that can access the PVR content. There's some notebooks: 1 Averatec cheapo (that has been great) 1 teeny HP notebook belonging to the GF, and a 17 inch HP monster desktop replacement notebook with 1.5 gb of RAM (OpenSuSE 10) with a couple of VM's that I use for my development environments. There's an old iBook wandering around the house as well. There's an ancient server box I built years ago with an AMD K6 and an MSI mainboard that just won't die and still serves as my development web server. It and runs gnump3d, privoxy and some other services. Oh yeah, there's a Nokia web tablet and an old Zaurus on my network. There's also an SE-30, but I never boot it any more.
My first was a fully configured TI-99/4A. It wasn't mine though. It belonged to a TI executive-type who had the $'s and connections to get all the cool sh*t. This thing had every accessory made at the time plus a few that TI hadn't released.
The first one that was actually mine was an Amiga 1000. After that I had an assortment of Kaypros, Compaqs, and assorted pc clones. When I started coding for a living I had a AST 386 box and a Mac SE/30. I loved that SE/30.
"And this is where a big part of the argument falls apart; if the mugger/robber isn't threatening you with immediate, lethal force, your justification for up and shooting him dead is not complete."
[IANAL]
Yes. It is. In Texas you can use lethal force (after sunset) to defend your _property_ not just your life. Is this moral? Yes, I think so from a deterrent perspective. Crime is lower here 'cause the Bad Guys can get dead just from being on private property after dark. The important thing to remember in Texas is "Stay off/out of other people's property after dark!". This has been tested a few times in the last 6 or 7 years here in H-town. A guy shot a repo man driving away in his (repossessed) truck. Shot him thru the cab. City didn't file charges 'cause the repo man didn't ID himself, just came up in the driveway and got the truck. Now, I think thats taking things too far, but thats how the law is interpreted down here. (And we don't care how y'all do things up nawth):-p
[/IANAL]
Now, all that being said, I don't think I'd shoot a guy I caught running down the road with my TV. If he was in my house... that's another story.
And I suppose you were armed? No? Then WTF are you talking about? You didn't have the choice to shoot the mugger! When you say "choose to fight" I think you mean "fight an unarmed battle against an armed man". IF I'm armed and someone tries to rob me and IF I can get to pistol instead of wallet, guess which one I'm gonna go for? Obviously, if the mugger is already presenting a firearm, your chances of shooting him go down dramatically. If however, the bad buy doesn't have his weapon pointed at me or seems as if he's not really motivated to kill me, he's gonna die (unless he shoots me in the head first!)
Utter complete crap. If you are confronting an armed robber in your house after dark, you'll likely be dead long before the police arrive. There are a few "wrecking crews" operating in Houston right now. They've killed a few families. If they come to your house and you have access to a weapon and a phone, you're gonna call the police instead of attempting to stop the guys raping and killing your family? WTF?
1) We should punish crime. Not potential crime. I think even felons should be allowed the means to defend themselves, ie. possess firearms. Crimes committed with firearms should be punished harshly.
2) Its not a crime (in Texas) to use lethal force to defend your property after dark. No state monopoly on use of force here! Thank Goodness!
3) I put up with the "process", most of the gang bangers down the street just swap dope (or dope income) for guns (or so the cops tell me). The legit "process" doesn't make weapons more difficult for anybody EXCEPT law-abiding citizens, so we might as well do away with it. The only restrictions of the right to own firearms that _might_ be justified is for potential owners to prove their ability to safely store firearms, and prove their ability to operate them safely (and kill their attackers!). Again, this won't slow down crooks, just make sure that the law abiding folks know their responsibilities.
4) ALL my guns are made for self defense or military use. I like military firearms. Thank God its still legal to own them.
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Ah. I see. It sounds like you are using a custom built desktop replacement notebook. Sounds like a nice machine BTW. You're right. To get ALL that stuff like you've got in your bespoke "notebook" you'll have to go to an Apple professional-class desktop.
Are you *carrying* that behemoth notebook around that much? If not, why not get a 15 inch MBP and hook a 30" Cinema Display up to it? Just wondering.
I agree. I've owned a great many laptops (currently have four inc. one Mac iBook). Most were for "corporate" use. I've never had a dock be anything but trouble as connectors get worn or dirty. Crashes galore and other sorts of problems. MY GF's little HP notebook even got stuck in the dock. The problem was electrical not mechanical as the dock had an electricly operated "ejector" that wouldn't eject. Cleaning connectors fixed the prolem. Notebook docks are basically for dorks.
I think you are trolling Apple fans, but just for once, I'll bite:
.wmv anyway? That's a totally shite format, un-portable to anything else without standing on your head. For just WATCHING HD content, nobody will notice that 30 pixels except professional editors.
"Who again is NOT totally angered that Apple won't offer high resolution displays. Comparing the pixel count to their 20" Display is SAD, SO SAD..."
I'm not. The resolution of the 17" MBP is the same as my 17 inch HP notebook. High quality 1080p video scales and plays just fine on the MBP. 30 extra pixels would be nice, but since all my notebooks are for writing code when I'm on the road, who cares?
"I was really hoping they would offer people that work with graphics (even as a hobby) a high resolution display."
Errm. it IS a high-resultion display. You're really concerned about those 30 pixels aren't you? Are you editing HD video in 1080p? I didn't think so. I know folks who DO edit HD content for a living and I'll bet they're not bitching about 30 pixels missing on their MBP's.
"I can at least play WMV HD 1080p on my 1yr old 17" laptop, why in HECK can't I play that resolution of Video or Movies on a Mac of all things."
I'll bet you don't. Who uses
"Why is Apple the cheap version of what I can buy from Dell?"
It totally ISN'T the same thing. The Dell can't legally run OS X. The Dell doesn't have a built-in video camera. The Dell doesn't have Firewire 800. The Quadro video is pretty bitchin' I'll admit. The drive options are the same for the Dell. I guess, if ALL you look at is the video chipset, then the Dell rocks. I don't think many people are gonna do that. They're gonna look at the sleek Apple enclosure, the clean, beautiful UI, and UNIX reliability and they're gonna pay the extra bucks for the MBP. The Dull just doesn't cut it.
"I don't quite see how socketed CPUs are a surprise in the x86 world. "
The Mac Mini motherboard is very similar to many laptop motherboards. Most laptop mb's have soldered CPU's. I was surprised that for reasons of space and expense that they socketed the chip, allowing users to very easily drop in a Merom proc. The Macbook Pro has a soldered CPU.
Good summary and analysis!
No, like Boot Camp beta, or socketed CPU's in Mac Mini CoreDuo boxes.
"The reality is that Apple is moving towards a Windows-based offering built on Intel hardware. Users would see Windows no more than they see Unix today. NeXT on Windows instead of NeXT on Unix. All the goodness of the Mac GUI, but the ability to run Windows software, and less expensive, better performing hardware."
This particular trollish comment keeps appearing in one form or another lately. It is completely retarded. Apple doesn't need to introduce a Windows-based offering. They will have virtualization built-in to the next major release of OS X. Virtualization is a better choice for most users than dual-boot and it keeps the Apple OS in front of new users to better aquaint them with the benefits of OS X. For others there will be nicely packaged versions of the popular dual-boot "hack".
This sort of thing is already available in many forms. For Mac users its in the form of the EyeHome unit from elgato. http://www.elgato.com/
The EyeHome unit accesses media content from any Mac in your home network and displays it on your TV. It requires a small server (OK, maybe not so small - its a modded version of Tomcat) to be installed on the Macs you want to access. The EyeHome unit can then access all the media in your music and movies folders etc. I've been using this for a while and its a good alternative to having your EyeTV computer next to your TV.
I'm not taking up for the pirates. I buy all my media content. I am trying to point out (as are many many other posters in this thread) that:
A) Copyright infringement is not theft. It is usually a tort unless the person doing the infringing is selling the copied product. (IANAL)
B) You have been duped into believing that piracy = theft. This is what the RIAA/MPAA want you to believe. Its easier for the masses to grasp than the actual legal definition AND it plays into their game better.
HTH
"Regardless of the rationalization there is no difference taking content this way and going to a store and stealing a CD or DVD."
Complete and utter hogwash! Stealing the CD or DVD deprives the merchant of goods, copying a CD or DVD doesn't deprive anyone of goods!
Depriving someone of their property equals stealing
Copyright infringement does NOT equal stealing, because no one is deprived of their goods or access to their goods. It MIGHT deprive retailers etc of sales. Deprivation of sales does NOT equal theft.
HTH
You left out the proper OS. You seem to be suggesting doing this on Windows! ? Yikes!
A better way would be to run Windows in VM's only when you need Windows sessions. Host them on Linux. You'll get better support for multiple monitors that way. Spyware could still be a problem, but a contained one, since the firewall on the host could detect outgoing spyware/trojan connection attempts.
We're a distributor of industrial "stuff". We're using Exchange for email. Our salesmen try to use their email accounts for all kinds of crap in addition to getting dozens to hundreds of emails each every day. We regularly delete pr0n, music and all sorts of stuff from their accounts. We don't have a posted size limit (we should) and just force the worst abusers to delete stuff or archive it to a network drive. Mostly we just delete the old stuff and they never notice. We not so gently remind our users that its the company's mail and server and the "company" can delete that stuff if it needs to do so. We probably need a more stringent published policy. The hard part is getting someone high enough in management to enforce it. Until someone above the IT department makes a policy and enforces it, its just gonna be a continuing headache.
One thing that has helped us deal with the crap these guys email and download are our new firewalls. We just installed Fortinet boxes at HQ and at all the branches. http://www.fortinet.com/
These boxes (called Fortigates by Fortinet) are very easy to configure and don't cost too much. They have a nice web interface and work with Fortinet's subscription service. The subsription service provides AV defs, whitelist and blacklist for web addresses and email etc. The boxes are really do-it-all solutions. We could have done the same thing via a do-it-ourselves Linux box, but the folks that have traditionally supported the firewalls here, while linux-friendly, don't have the time to install and configure something like that from scratch. Plus there would be the nagging worry that we had mis-configured something, leaving a nasty security risk. The Fortinet firewall appliances have taken care of that worry. AFAIK, Fortigates run a Linux distro with proprietary "bits and pieces" added in.
The Fortigates have cut down on the trash that gets downloaded as well as the junk mail the sales types were getting from web sites they shouldn't (and now can't) go to in the first place.
We're using it in a commercial environment. I like it, and more importantly, our users like it! The price is right too!
http://www.otrs.org/
Somebody mod the OTRS posts up! Its a really good OSS solution!
The Open Ticket Request System is used by lots of commercial entities. We're using it around here and it works well. The latest version is a pretty big improvement on an already pro quality product. Its easy to change the graphics to reflect your company's look and feel.
The price is right (free and OSS) and commercial support is available (we haven't needed it). FWIW, we have about 200 users and the OTRS stuff is running on pc class hardware along with some other applications. We're using SuSE Linux 9.3 on the OTRS box.
One post here on OTRS complained that it was hard to set up. Don't know why he found it hard to setup, unless he was trying to run it on Windows (which works but is still not completely QA'ed). OTRS ships with SuSE Linux, and I think its included in OpenSuSE. The SuSE version worked for me right out of the box. I'm not an admin, (I just write software) and it was very easy for me to install and configure. We've upgraded it once since we installed it. The upgrade required a little knowledge of MySQL (just a little). You're an admin right? You'll probably have no problems installing from scratch via tar file etc. If you use an RPM just make sure it puts things where you're distro expects them. Or just run it on SuSE/OpenSuSE.
Our users like the web interface. There's also an email interface, but we're not using it at this time (we're waiting on the guy who admins the exchange server to "get around" to setting up forwarding).
"The article doesn't include free downloads and other kinds of Linux installs in 2005, just sales."
Oops! I meant UNIX installs!
Windows is the "top server OS" in sales. The article doesn't include free downloads and other kinds of Linux installs in 2005, just sales.
I wonder what the statistics for servers installed in 2005. I also wonder how Linux stacks up in the overall number of servers in use compared to Windows. Isn't Solaris still the most used server on the web? A cursory google didn't turn up much on this. Anybody have current statistics?
"The more secure you say it is the more people will want to find a way to break in."
Hey everybody! All my shit is totally insecure!
My faithful dual monitor dual 1 ghz PIII box died this summer. Its untimely death lead to the purchase of 2 iMacs G5's both with external monitors and screen-spanning hack (1 gb of RAM in the GF's and 1.5 in mine. There's a cheesy DSL modem/firewall/access point (belongs to GF) connected to 2 8-port gigabit switches. The living room has a Mac Mini connected to the GF's television. There's an EyeTV on my iMac and a half-terabyte raid array for PVR storage. I can get to the PVR content from all the PC's using CyTV. There's also an EyeHome unit on one of bedroom TV that can access the PVR content. There's some notebooks: 1 Averatec cheapo (that has been great) 1 teeny HP notebook belonging to the GF, and a 17 inch HP monster desktop replacement notebook with 1.5 gb of RAM (OpenSuSE 10) with a couple of VM's that I use for my development environments. There's an old iBook wandering around the house as well. There's an ancient server box I built years ago with an AMD K6 and an MSI mainboard that just won't die and still serves as my development web server. It and runs gnump3d, privoxy and some other services.
Oh yeah, there's a Nokia web tablet and an old Zaurus on my network. There's also an SE-30, but I never boot it any more.
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/16646.html
My first was a fully configured TI-99/4A. It wasn't mine though. It belonged to a TI executive-type who had the $'s and connections to get all the cool sh*t. This thing had every accessory made at the time plus a few that TI hadn't released.
The first one that was actually mine was an Amiga 1000. After that I had an assortment of Kaypros, Compaqs, and assorted pc clones. When I started coding for a living I had a AST 386 box and a Mac SE/30. I loved that SE/30.
Heh, that happens to me sometimes. Or this:
:-)
"Why Oh Why couldn't you have the Preview button?!"
"And this is where a big part of the argument falls apart; if the mugger/robber isn't threatening you with immediate, lethal force, your justification for up and shooting him dead is not complete."
:-p
[IANAL]
Yes. It is. In Texas you can use lethal force (after sunset) to defend your _property_ not just your life. Is this moral? Yes, I think so from a deterrent perspective. Crime is lower here 'cause the Bad Guys can get dead just from being on private property after dark. The important thing to remember in Texas is "Stay off/out of other people's property after dark!". This has been tested a few times in the last 6 or 7 years here in H-town. A guy shot a repo man driving away in his (repossessed) truck. Shot him thru the cab. City didn't file charges 'cause the repo man didn't ID himself, just came up in the driveway and got the truck. Now, I think thats taking things too far, but thats how the law is interpreted down here. (And we don't care how y'all do things up nawth)
[/IANAL]
Now, all that being said, I don't think I'd shoot a guy I caught running down the road with my TV. If he was in my house... that's another story.
And I suppose you were armed? No? Then WTF are you talking about? You didn't have the choice to shoot the mugger! When you say "choose to fight" I think you mean "fight an unarmed battle against an armed man". IF I'm armed and someone tries to rob me and IF I can get to pistol instead of wallet, guess which one I'm gonna go for? Obviously, if the mugger is already presenting a firearm, your chances of shooting him go down dramatically. If however, the bad buy doesn't have his weapon pointed at me or seems as if he's not really motivated to kill me, he's gonna die (unless he shoots me in the head first!)
Utter complete crap. If you are confronting an armed robber in your house after dark, you'll likely be dead long before the police arrive. There are a few "wrecking crews" operating in Houston right now. They've killed a few families. If they come to your house and you have access to a weapon and a phone, you're gonna call the police instead of attempting to stop the guys raping and killing your family? WTF?
1) We should punish crime. Not potential crime. I think even felons should be allowed the means to defend themselves, ie. possess firearms. Crimes committed with firearms should be punished harshly.
2) Its not a crime (in Texas) to use lethal force to defend your property after dark. No state monopoly on use of force here! Thank Goodness!
3) I put up with the "process", most of the gang bangers down the street just swap dope (or dope income) for guns (or so the cops tell me). The legit "process" doesn't make weapons more difficult for anybody EXCEPT law-abiding citizens, so we might as well do away with it. The only restrictions of the right to own firearms that _might_ be justified is for potential owners to prove their ability to safely store firearms, and prove their ability to operate them safely (and kill their attackers!). Again, this won't slow down crooks, just make sure that the law abiding folks know their responsibilities.
4) ALL my guns are made for self defense or military use. I like military firearms. Thank God its still legal to own them.