>The fact that you cannot distribute modified versions of it pretty much moves it into the non-Free camp.
He allows patches, and, AFAIK, you can distribute the patches along with the original, unmodified, source. And, again, AFAIK, there's no limit to how big the patches may be.
If you feel that the requirement that you must include, as part of the makefile:
patch -p1 <./UPDATE-01-02-03
is a limitation on your freedom, I hardly think it's fair to call the GPL free (not that you did, but I kinda have to assume that's what the original poster meant by free, being that he used 2/3s of the FSF's name, and in capitals too).
I, for one, feel completely comfortable calling any software where I may make modifications, distribute those modifications, and distribute the original software, free. But that's just me...
>For instance, you can not play a decent quality DivX video on an 800MHz C3, despite the same video playing just fine on a 400MHz Intel..
I'm surprised at that. I've used the C3 666 processor, and it played all movies I've thrown at it (DivX, MPEG-2, DVD, whatever). Perhaps you had a video problem in that machine?
>I've seen similar performance problems on other CPU-intensive applications that I run, such as Ghostscript with the gimp-print drivers, Mozilla, OpenSSH (ssh, sshd, ssh-keygen), GIMP, etc.
Again, I've run Linux on one of those processors and I personally found the performance on all linux apps to be adequate. I guess it depends on what you expect. The C3 is _not_ a number crunching chip. It's like its predecessor, a business apps chip.
>I would encourage anyone to do a side-by-side comparison of a 800MHz C3 and a 400MHz AMD/Intel processor.
I will try that. I've sold many of these boards to happy customers (only one return, from a customer who thought that the "1 GigaPro" advertising on the box meant it ran like a P3 1.0 Ghz), but I don't have any in the shop right now. A friend of mine bought one -- I'll benchmark it this weekend.:-)
Coil would be a generic word for the device. Since, inside the ceramic, a wire is wrapped in a spiral, which, when current is passed through, heats up or causes magnetic induction, it's a coil. This word applies to anything that takes this form, electrical inductors can be called coils, the wire inside a speaker is called a coil, etc, etc. Heck, you can call spirals coils!;-)
However, the _correct_ term is Heating Element for what you speak of.
element:
Electricity. The resistance wire in an electrical appliance such as a heater or an oven.
Both of the elements are called just that, heating elements. The ones on the top, for pans, would be stove top elements, whereas the one in the bottom of the oven would be an oven element. Some ovens have a broiler, which (I would suppose, as I've never bought one) is called a broiler element.
There you go, that should clear it up!
(And, just to be sure, here's a link to a company in the UK that only sells elements).
>Here I am, having had (ehm.. is that correct english?) english for the last eight or nine years at school and only reading english literature, not able to understand the simplest kitchen stuff? The shame!
Don't worry. Even "english" people have trouble with their own language. Try asking an American to talk to someone from Australia one day...
Just for laughs, do they teach you to spell "valor", valour? And which pronunciation do they tell you to use for the letter "Z"? Okay, last but not least, realized or realised?
>Most office PBXs make you dial 9 for an outside line, then you have to dial 1 for a long-distance call, then the area code, which may begin with 1.
Ahh... but local-long-distanace area codes must begin with 2-9 as per NANPA rules, IIRC. It used to be [2-9][01][2-9], but they changed that when they ran out of codes.:-)
When the call is international, but not Canada, it is dialled +011 (country code) (number).
Yes, if you screw up I suppose you could hit that 1 twice... There's a few numbers near my house with a 912 exchange (supposedly) that seem to cause a lot of headaches to 911, so it wouldn't surprise me.
>Why has an entire industry sprung up just for filing individual income tax returns?!?
For the exact same reason I get paid $40 to install $20 worth of Anti-Virus software.
Because people just don't want to do it for themselves. It isn't difficult, "they" (the customers) just think it is, and people like me (dare I say the word... I can't think of a better one... although this word is a little over the top) "prey" on these people. Well, I really don't think I'm preying on them in a bad way... it's not like I don't offer to show them how to do it instead. But when someone offers me cash for a job like software installation, I'd be a fool to say no!
Personally, I'm surprised that all the slashdotters need software to do grade 6 arithmetic for them. Just use the forms, and a pen. Simple, simple, simple, and totally free (Yes, the pen too... you can complete the forms in a government office using their pen if you really are that cheap!).
[Sorry if this gets posted twice... slashdot is AMAZINGLY slow today. Almost as bad as this site.]
Nice, but I'm pretty sure you could take a P4 3 Ghz and run it at 1.5 Ghz using a similar core voltage to the mobile chips... but that's just my guess based on experience with other CPUs...
So, basically the P4/Celeron Mobile does what the Cyrix does... but... they don't have a page like this or this (either that or I can't find it!). Bummer. Plus VIA claims the C3 is the coolest processor on the market. Which they may be lying about, at their peril.
[ And I really doubt your claim that C3s run at half the clock speed as advertised. I have run non Via/Cyrix made speed checkers on these chips and they run at the speed advertised, unless all CPU speed checkers are faulty, that is. Sorry 'bout that, but I think I'd need a little more evidence to sway me on that claim. ]
>You couldn't talk to others because you didn't watch TV?
Others like to talk about TV. Not knowing anything about it makes it a conversation blocker. Perhaps where you live it was different, but for me, during survivor, I may as well not have existed.
Basically, I guess it depends where you live, and the type of people who you work with.
>"kill your television" and live life to its fullest
I tried that. Then I had to talk to others in life, and they had a real hard time understanding anything I was making a point on.
So, if you want to live your life fullest with a small circle of people separated by miles of land, hey, feel free. Myself, I like to talk to other about things. I consider social interaction living life to its fullest.
Yourself? What do you consider living live to its fullest, apart from TV?
Mine has a very simple setup that also complies with fire regulations (the manager of the nursing home is also a volunteer firefighter).
A company (the name of which I don't know off hand) makes a magnetic lock system for doors. With enough force (running into the door at full speed) the door will break the mag-seal and open in an emergency. You can also turn specific locks off temporarialy with a keycode (punched in near the door) or use a remote keylock (like they have for cars). The doors will also automatically release in a fire emergency.
>What are you running there to generate that much of an electric bill?
He probably lives in the US. I got flamed last time for discussing the old "is it cheaper to leave the lights on?" idea because it was so hard to believe that I only pay $0.0275 US / kwh... IIRC, a "normal" computer only costs about $2.50 USD per month to run in Canada.
Just do the right thing to begin with. If you want silence and no heat use a Cyrix C3. I'm sure you'll say it's too slow for you. Hey, you know what the saying is:
Considering that a show like "Tomorrow's World" isn't exactly the world's most difficult thing to produce, what's to bet that TechTV will start to make their own episodes?
Seems to me it's pretty popular over here, considering that TechTV wants to run it more often.
It looks like Apple finally got on the cluetrain for prices (either that or I haven't looked in quite a while). Time to save me up a few bucks... And find a Canadian dealer for them with prices like these.:-)
It would be nice if the monitor wasn't integrated on these lower price models, but hey, you can't always get what you want.
>As an aside, I actually do use libre tools like Emacs and TeX, and even hack at them from time to time. But man, I wish all the effort that goes into yet another skinnable MP3 player for Linux somehow could be refined and channeled to bring the power of Emacs and TeX into the 21st century, instead of the graceful aging of a fine 1970's vintage.
Check. And it compiles reasonably easy. And is full featured, compared to what it replaces.
I can't wait to use TeX to document my final project. It's going to be so much easier than working with Word... Finally.:-)
>Imagine China/Pakistan/North Korea having satellite technology 20 yrs ago. It would have been a very different world.
Yes, imagine it. Satellites would finally be cheap enough today that one of the many freedom groups in China could afford to put one up in the air and the PRC would finally get its eyes opened up. Wouldn't it be nice!
Slashdot Mirror
>Maybe the price needs to come down to a few THOUSAND dollars...with some government tax credits and utility savings, it might be worth it.
Not unless the solar cells can do both -- make electricity and keep my house dry...
>Once again, this is done fairly quickly using the remote just by holding the down-arrow and then hitting ok.
So, basically, they didn't read it at all. If the reviewers can't be bothered, will the users be?
For all we know, it might say in there that you need to give your first born to Bill G.
>The fact that you cannot distribute modified versions of it pretty much moves it into the non-Free camp.
./UPDATE-01-02-03
He allows patches, and, AFAIK, you can distribute the patches along with the original, unmodified, source. And, again, AFAIK, there's no limit to how big the patches may be.
If you feel that the requirement that you must include, as part of the makefile:
patch -p1 <
is a limitation on your freedom, I hardly think it's fair to call the GPL free (not that you did, but I kinda have to assume that's what the original poster meant by free, being that he used 2/3s of the FSF's name, and in capitals too).
I, for one, feel completely comfortable calling any software where I may make modifications, distribute those modifications, and distribute the original software, free. But that's just me...
>One is Free Software, and one is not.
How is Qmail not Free Software, other than the fact it doesn't have the GPL license?
Software doesn't have to be GPL to be free, you know. And those that've seen my previous posts know I'm a pretty heavy supporter of the GPL.
>Though, you can ask to be evaluated with american english instead, if you happen to like it.
:-)
If you want to confuse them, ask for Canadian english. Think American English + British English all in one!
(It's one reason I'm proud to be Canadian -- I can handle either dialect!
>For instance, you can not play a decent quality DivX video on an 800MHz C3, despite the same video playing just fine on a 400MHz Intel..
:-)
I'm surprised at that. I've used the C3 666 processor, and it played all movies I've thrown at it (DivX, MPEG-2, DVD, whatever). Perhaps you had a video problem in that machine?
>I've seen similar performance problems on other CPU-intensive applications that I run, such as Ghostscript with the gimp-print drivers, Mozilla, OpenSSH (ssh, sshd, ssh-keygen), GIMP, etc.
Again, I've run Linux on one of those processors and I personally found the performance on all linux apps to be adequate. I guess it depends on what you expect. The C3 is _not_ a number crunching chip. It's like its predecessor, a business apps chip.
>I would encourage anyone to do a side-by-side comparison of a 800MHz C3 and a 400MHz AMD/Intel processor.
I will try that. I've sold many of these boards to happy customers (only one return, from a customer who thought that the "1 GigaPro" advertising on the box meant it ran like a P3 1.0 Ghz), but I don't have any in the shop right now. A friend of mine bought one -- I'll benchmark it this weekend.
Coil would be a generic word for the device. Since, inside the ceramic, a wire is wrapped in a spiral, which, when current is passed through, heats up or causes magnetic induction, it's a coil. This word applies to anything that takes this form, electrical inductors can be called coils, the wire inside a speaker is called a coil, etc, etc. Heck, you can call spirals coils!
However, the _correct_ term is Heating Element for what you speak of.
And, to verify, dictionary.com to the rescue:
Both of the elements are called just that, heating elements. The ones on the top, for pans, would be stove top elements, whereas the one in the bottom of the oven would be an oven element. Some ovens have a broiler, which (I would suppose, as I've never bought one) is called a broiler element.
There you go, that should clear it up!
(And, just to be sure, here's a link to a company in the UK that only sells elements).
>Here I am, having had (ehm.. is that correct english?) english for the last eight or nine years at school and only reading english literature, not able to understand the simplest kitchen stuff? The shame!
Don't worry. Even "english" people have trouble with their own language. Try asking an American to talk to someone from Australia one day...
Just for laughs, do they teach you to spell "valor", valour? And which pronunciation do they tell you to use for the letter "Z"? Okay, last but not least, realized or realised?
>Most office PBXs make you dial 9 for an outside line, then you have to dial 1 for a long-distance call, then the area code, which may begin with 1.
:-)
Ahh... but local-long-distanace area codes must begin with 2-9 as per NANPA rules, IIRC. It used to be [2-9][01][2-9], but they changed that when they ran out of codes.
When the call is international, but not Canada, it is dialled +011 (country code) (number).
Yes, if you screw up I suppose you could hit that 1 twice... There's a few numbers near my house with a 912 exchange (supposedly) that seem to cause a lot of headaches to 911, so it wouldn't surprise me.
>Why has an entire industry sprung up just for filing individual income tax returns?!?
For the exact same reason I get paid $40 to install $20 worth of Anti-Virus software.
Because people just don't want to do it for themselves. It isn't difficult, "they" (the customers) just think it is, and people like me (dare I say the word... I can't think of a better one... although this word is a little over the top) "prey" on these people. Well, I really don't think I'm preying on them in a bad way... it's not like I don't offer to show them how to do it instead. But when someone offers me cash for a job like software installation, I'd be a fool to say no!
Personally, I'm surprised that all the slashdotters need software to do grade 6 arithmetic for them. Just use the forms, and a pen. Simple, simple, simple, and totally free (Yes, the pen too... you can complete the forms in a government office using their pen if you really are that cheap!).
[Sorry if this gets posted twice... slashdot is AMAZINGLY slow today. Almost as bad as this site.]
>The Mobile Celeron (1.2 GHz) generates about as much heat as the 800MHz C3 (which really runs at less than 400MHz).
You're talking about this processor, right?
Nice, but I'm pretty sure you could take a P4 3 Ghz and run it at 1.5 Ghz using a similar core voltage to the mobile chips... but that's just my guess based on experience with other CPUs...
So, basically the P4/Celeron Mobile does what the Cyrix does... but... they don't have a page like this or this (either that or I can't find it!). Bummer. Plus VIA claims the C3 is the coolest processor on the market. Which they may be lying about, at their peril.
[ And I really doubt your claim that C3s run at half the clock speed as advertised. I have run non Via/Cyrix made speed checkers on these chips and they run at the speed advertised, unless all CPU speed checkers are faulty, that is. Sorry 'bout that, but I think I'd need a little more evidence to sway me on that claim. ]
>You couldn't talk to others because you didn't watch TV?
Others like to talk about TV. Not knowing anything about it makes it a conversation blocker. Perhaps where you live it was different, but for me, during survivor, I may as well not have existed.
Basically, I guess it depends where you live, and the type of people who you work with.
...telling us exactly the post time means you had to wait until that exact time to post. Isn't that a little like encouraging First Posting?
>"kill your television" and live life to its fullest
I tried that. Then I had to talk to others in life, and they had a real hard time understanding anything I was making a point on.
So, if you want to live your life fullest with a small circle of people separated by miles of land, hey, feel free. Myself, I like to talk to other about things. I consider social interaction living life to its fullest.
Yourself? What do you consider living live to its fullest, apart from TV?
Mine has a very simple setup that also complies with fire regulations (the manager of the nursing home is also a volunteer firefighter).
A company (the name of which I don't know off hand) makes a magnetic lock system for doors. With enough force (running into the door at full speed) the door will break the mag-seal and open in an emergency. You can also turn specific locks off temporarialy with a keycode (punched in near the door) or use a remote keylock (like they have for cars). The doors will also automatically release in a fire emergency.
It's pricey, though... But professional and safe.
Hot damn that's a sweet setup! I really like that desk... Who makes it?
>What are you running there to generate that much of an electric bill?
He probably lives in the US. I got flamed last time for discussing the old "is it cheaper to leave the lights on?" idea because it was so hard to believe that I only pay $0.0275 US / kwh... IIRC, a "normal" computer only costs about $2.50 USD per month to run in Canada.
Just do the right thing to begin with. If you want silence and no heat use a Cyrix C3. I'm sure you'll say it's too slow for you. Hey, you know what the saying is:
Silent/Cold/Low-Power. Fast.
Pick 1.
>You can get almost any popular show on p2p now, with no commercials in it, having been stripped out by the person who did the capture.
:-)
Actually... They're more likely WildFeeds, which never had commercials to start with.
That's the only way I found ST: Enterprise bearable...
Percentage of use of total resources based: Fixed Costs, such as:
- Building maintenance costs
- Energy costs
- Salaried / Permanent staff costs
- Taxes
- Equipment
- Telco charges for renting the feed lines, etc
Per seat based:- Permanent equipment (per user, such as a dedicated network router for your company to connect to the ISP)
- Telco charges for renting your lines
- Basic maintenance fees
That's my guess. Of course, add in profit incentive to both. Why? Did you get burned? Why not ask your next ISP to cap your account next time?Considering that a show like "Tomorrow's World" isn't exactly the world's most difficult thing to produce, what's to bet that TechTV will start to make their own episodes?
Seems to me it's pretty popular over here, considering that TechTV wants to run it more often.
Well, color me surprised! Not bad at all...
:-)
It looks like Apple finally got on the cluetrain for prices (either that or I haven't looked in quite a while). Time to save me up a few bucks... And find a Canadian dealer for them with prices like these.
It would be nice if the monitor wasn't integrated on these lower price models, but hey, you can't always get what you want.
>As an aside, I actually do use libre tools like Emacs and TeX, and even hack at them from time to time. But man, I wish all the effort that goes into yet another skinnable MP3 player for Linux somehow could be refined and channeled to bring the power of Emacs and TeX into the 21st century, instead of the graceful aging of a fine 1970's vintage.
:-)
Check. And it compiles reasonably easy. And is full featured, compared to what it replaces.
I can't wait to use TeX to document my final project. It's going to be so much easier than working with Word... Finally.
>hmmm under $1000 is affordable...
Where can I get a new Apple, fully loaded and ready to go for that price? Monitor included, of course, since my PC monitor isn't ADC.
I'm interested... I'd love to try a Mac, but up to now, they've simply been too far out of reach financially for myself and all my customers.
>Chips are made in a clean-room environment, no dirty tourists allowed.
>What did you expect?
Windows? And not the type that Intel is associated with normally...
>Imagine China/Pakistan/North Korea having satellite technology 20 yrs ago. It would have been a very different world.
Yes, imagine it. Satellites would finally be cheap enough today that one of the many freedom groups in China could afford to put one up in the air and the PRC would finally get its eyes opened up. Wouldn't it be nice!