Prosecuting an elected official for a crime they did commit? What world do you live on? Here on earth everyone who tries that gets, for lack of a better reference, Trolled and Down modded so hard that there will be no redemption, or will be paid to STFU.
If an Artist would continue to put out the same quality product as long as they survived and had the means. An "Artist" thinks that those lyrics they got from over here and beat they got from over there and got this studio here to put together and get it sold, should continue to get payed even if they didn't originally make them. While I do not doubt there are famous artists that still do the work of putting together a song, the numbers are most likely dwindling, quickly.
Sure opinions are like assholes. Oddly enough it turns out informed opinions are as rare as informed assholes.
While this only seems like a halfassed troll with a fullassed point, there is reasoning behind this and would make sense if stated using well thought out terms.
I still fail to see how it is keeping anyone from creating anything. This part of the logic just doesn't add up!
It does seem to be keeping a bunch of people without an original thought in their heads from mashing together a bunch of other peoples work and calling it original.
It does add up, how many truly original works are there past maybe ~1970, if you can claim anything is a derivative of anything else you have this massive pit of cash you now control called Lawsuits of Copyright Infringement. Somewhere a line must be drawn and someone must not be fallible enough to fail at guarding that line and making sure anything beyond is free. Sadly we are human and greed is inherit in our existence, and we are screwed until we actually do a damn thing to stop it.
Ahhh an example of circular logic
The state legislature of Indiana once passed a law that said "3 times the diameter of a circle is the circumference". So everyone who calculated the true circumference of a circle using Pi was in violation of the law.
Is that true, how is that even enforceable, much less what kind of horrible mess it would bring about in business that is now massively crippled due to not being able to legally use proven math.
Where were those smartasses when I was in school, the ones I knew bought there 4.0 GPA from the actually smart ones in class, and if you ask the valedictorian of my class he will tell you that he bought his grade from the 3.8-3.0 students because they were good at one thing.
Yes, there are so many textbooks out there with only one author and no sources cited. And find me a Nobel laureate who never collaborated with anyone.
Seems like there are some textbooks, blatantly ignoring something that I would hope the publishers would atleast discourage. I could be using reason and logic that does not apply in The Real World thou.
I had math and computer science classes where homework was not graded. All course credit came from exams. If you "cheated" on your homework, you came up short on the exam where showing all work was required to receive any credit for a problem. Those are the best types of classes, because it truly tests your ability to solve problems.
My algebra classes did that, and I had a teacher who thought having no work written down implied cheating, even if I was done with the exam 15 mins before anyone else in the class.
The music industry has killed the CD by focusing on bag sales and forcing decent artists to focus (thank god) on live gigs.
It makes it much harder to justify being a full time musician thou, when you can't make a living without making a "deal with the devil" so to speak, and it really works well for local bands to have a place to do live gigs continuously, but I would have to really like a band to go to a concert anyway I would much rather just give them money directly to survive on make good music. Its a thought I think most professional musicians have lost, "If you are really good, people WANT to pay you."
One thing that is not really debatable is that the music industry business model is outdated, overgrown with middlemen, and on it's way out. And the end won't come soon enough.
I was under the impression that movie studios and game studios were on a very similar model.
They tried something like that with the DVD-MUSIC format and I saw around 10 discs for it and only one set-top player with the balls to say it supported it on the faceplate.
The problem with that is that many people still equate computers and paper as separate mediums. The rules should not be separate for digital and paper, but any such rules should elaborate with well crafted language something to the effect of "this includes digital media."
There is a problem that ensues if we use a statement like "this includes digital media". It can imply to the here and now but the technology can be changed and a new phrase used to describe it. Therefore in some number of years the same predicament will occur just as it is now. I don't think that there is any lasting way to fix it that does not create a mass of loopholes, but it is never going to have an end all solution. It will have to be as adapting as humankind will allow and the business models can work around, which is the largest source of the problem in it now.
These are the same folks who bought the last four copyright extensions with mass "secret" donations and visits by Disney-sponsored hookers to congressional offices.
And here I was thinking Disney was primarily a kids company, and put out over half of the childrens grade content coming out of America.
People like Lee need to realize money doesn't grow on trees.
The government issues "paper" money because paper is product that comes from a tree. So for some reason there is logic in thinking that money grows on trees, although its really bad.
I would like to point out that by definition, Microsoft is not a monopoly.
There is competition and it does not hold 100% of its market, therefore it is no more than the market share leader and NOT a monopoly.
You may need a wizard, or an expert in some sort of bad logic. Especially a decade ago, but now we have the politicians who decided that they were not getting a good piece of the pie, and are going to the head chef demanding that they not use 1 ingredient in the creation of the pie.
That is about the best analogy I can get from the logic used, and its not a good one.
Why do the most ridiculous plans happen to sound the most plausible. Any less and it would be an obvious scam but for some reason you turn up the insane knob past 100% and the suspicion meter drops to like 5%.
Given the number of pages on the web, It is highly plausible that 500 million pages can be wrong. It is much harder to believe that 500 million incorrect pages are the entire database it runs.
If this doesn't go the way we want, then not only have we set a precedent, but we also have few remaining valid complaints.
Valid complaints are only necessary when the charges are of an equal validity.
Playing the high road only works when the entire system isn't swayed by that "value" that various sides have.
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Prosecuting an elected official for a crime they did commit? What world do you live on? Here on earth everyone who tries that gets, for lack of a better reference, Trolled and Down modded so hard that there will be no redemption, or will be paid to STFU.
If an Artist would continue to put out the same quality product as long as they survived and had the means. An "Artist" thinks that those lyrics they got from over here and beat they got from over there and got this studio here to put together and get it sold, should continue to get payed even if they didn't originally make them. While I do not doubt there are famous artists that still do the work of putting together a song, the numbers are most likely dwindling, quickly.
Sure opinions are like assholes. Oddly enough it turns out informed opinions are as rare as informed assholes.
While this only seems like a halfassed troll with a fullassed point, there is reasoning behind this and would make sense if stated using well thought out terms.
I still fail to see how it is keeping anyone from creating anything. This part of the logic just doesn't add up! It does seem to be keeping a bunch of people without an original thought in their heads from mashing together a bunch of other peoples work and calling it original.
It does add up, how many truly original works are there past maybe ~1970, if you can claim anything is a derivative of anything else you have this massive pit of cash you now control called Lawsuits of Copyright Infringement. Somewhere a line must be drawn and someone must not be fallible enough to fail at guarding that line and making sure anything beyond is free. Sadly we are human and greed is inherit in our existence, and we are screwed until we actually do a damn thing to stop it.
Ahhh an example of circular logic The state legislature of Indiana once passed a law that said "3 times the diameter of a circle is the circumference". So everyone who calculated the true circumference of a circle using Pi was in violation of the law.
Is that true, how is that even enforceable, much less what kind of horrible mess it would bring about in business that is now massively crippled due to not being able to legally use proven math.
Where were those smartasses when I was in school, the ones I knew bought there 4.0 GPA from the actually smart ones in class, and if you ask the valedictorian of my class he will tell you that he bought his grade from the 3.8-3.0 students because they were good at one thing.
Yes, there are so many textbooks out there with only one author and no sources cited. And find me a Nobel laureate who never collaborated with anyone.
Seems like there are some textbooks, blatantly ignoring something that I would hope the publishers would atleast discourage. I could be using reason and logic that does not apply in The Real World thou.
I had math and computer science classes where homework was not graded. All course credit came from exams. If you "cheated" on your homework, you came up short on the exam where showing all work was required to receive any credit for a problem. Those are the best types of classes, because it truly tests your ability to solve problems.
My algebra classes did that, and I had a teacher who thought having no work written down implied cheating, even if I was done with the exam 15 mins before anyone else in the class.
The music industry has killed the CD by focusing on bag sales and forcing decent artists to focus (thank god) on live gigs.
It makes it much harder to justify being a full time musician thou, when you can't make a living without making a "deal with the devil" so to speak, and it really works well for local bands to have a place to do live gigs continuously, but I would have to really like a band to go to a concert anyway I would much rather just give them money directly to survive on make good music. Its a thought I think most professional musicians have lost, "If you are really good, people WANT to pay you."
One thing that is not really debatable is that the music industry business model is outdated, overgrown with middlemen, and on it's way out. And the end won't come soon enough.
I was under the impression that movie studios and game studios were on a very similar model.
They tried something like that with the DVD-MUSIC format and I saw around 10 discs for it and only one set-top player with the balls to say it supported it on the faceplate.
The problem with that is that many people still equate computers and paper as separate mediums. The rules should not be separate for digital and paper, but any such rules should elaborate with well crafted language something to the effect of "this includes digital media."
There is a problem that ensues if we use a statement like "this includes digital media". It can imply to the here and now but the technology can be changed and a new phrase used to describe it. Therefore in some number of years the same predicament will occur just as it is now. I don't think that there is any lasting way to fix it that does not create a mass of loopholes, but it is never going to have an end all solution. It will have to be as adapting as humankind will allow and the business models can work around, which is the largest source of the problem in it now.
You forgot Google.
Something with a plot that holds your attention for more than one episode or even 30 second punch lines...
I was not aware that Jetsons and Flintstones had plots beyond each episode. You have intrigued me to double check thou.
These are the same folks who bought the last four copyright extensions with mass "secret" donations and visits by Disney-sponsored hookers to congressional offices.
And here I was thinking Disney was primarily a kids company, and put out over half of the childrens grade content coming out of America.
People like Lee need to realize money doesn't grow on trees.
The government issues "paper" money because paper is product that comes from a tree. So for some reason there is logic in thinking that money grows on trees, although its really bad.
I would like to point out that by definition, Microsoft is not a monopoly. There is competition and it does not hold 100% of its market, therefore it is no more than the market share leader and NOT a monopoly.
It's impossible to prevent people from breaking the law without putting them into padded rooms.
I'm sure there is some law you can break in a padded room, but no decent person would find you convictable while you are in a padded room.
You may need a wizard, or an expert in some sort of bad logic. Especially a decade ago, but now we have the politicians who decided that they were not getting a good piece of the pie, and are going to the head chef demanding that they not use 1 ingredient in the creation of the pie. That is about the best analogy I can get from the logic used, and its not a good one.
Why do the most ridiculous plans happen to sound the most plausible. Any less and it would be an obvious scam but for some reason you turn up the insane knob past 100% and the suspicion meter drops to like 5%.
Given the number of pages on the web, It is highly plausible that 500 million pages can be wrong. It is much harder to believe that 500 million incorrect pages are the entire database it runs.
Does that mean it sucked the knowledge out of your head? Rather that give a 0 or a positive that would add more knowledge?
If this doesn't go the way we want, then not only have we set a precedent, but we also have few remaining valid complaints.
Valid complaints are only necessary when the charges are of an equal validity. Playing the high road only works when the entire system isn't swayed by that "value" that various sides have.
Is it really true that most other states assert the right to pass extraterritorial laws?
Its countries making extraterritorial laws that baffles me, states would actually make some sense based on the relationship within the USA.
assuming otherwise is as silly as the "if you are a cop you are not allowed to enter this site" disclaimers that used to be all over the internet
Much like the "Are you 18?" question that has no real verification beyond "Can you use this link?"