The Law has nothing to do with it! You said yourself she didn't do anything illegal, and I agree with that. She isn't being charged, convicted, or anything to do with the law.
She expressed her violent intent publicly, and in the interest of safety on Campus, they kept her away from there. Nothing illegal about that either.
I don't know if you've noticed, but people have been sued over things that they've said. Libelous claims, slander, false advertisement, and all that.
Where do YOU draw the line for freedom of speech?
People are accountable for their words. If you make threats, you are accountable for them.
It's not a thought crime though, she clearly expressed that she planned on murdering someone. Whether she was going to do it or not doesn't matter, she practically admitted to it.
Of 4 people managing about 1200 machines across Canada (yes, and I'm not exagerating) - we use this program called Track-It! by Numara.
It does well enough for us, lets us assign different tasks to different technicians, give them different prioritees, expected completed dates, notes and all that nice stuff. The only thing it doesn't really do is sub-tasks. It does handle Attachments, Prioritization, and you can set it up to generate these projects based on incoming emails (emailing support@mycompany.com will generate a task for your technicians to do).
However, I don't feel like thats the one for you. For about 4 months I worked with a company called Neosystems, and they have a project called iTrak . It sounds alot like what you are using for.
At any given time, I need to be able to jump back to one of these items and pick up where I left off. CHECK... for hierarchical subtasks, CHECK attachments CHECK, and prioritization CHECK. Ideally it would be a desktop app, but a locally-hostable web app CHECK would be okay. In some of these projects I may want to include proprietary information, which I really don't want floating out in the cloud outside of my control *
*That last part, I'm not entirely sure of. From what I recall, they push their updates to all their clients at once, which makes it sound like the business is hosting the application. However, they're a relatively small company, with a great product. It was a real pleasure working on it, but sorting out AJAX bugs just got the better of me, I was fresh out of post secondary. I highly recommend checking them out, maybe giving them a call to see if their product will work for you.
It does not do accelerated 3d. That is clearly one of the main features for 'normal' users trying to play games in their VM.
The only games I play on a VM are the ones too old to work on XP, designed for DOS and pre 95 windows.
And believe me, they do not need accelerated 3d.
Anyone who is able to launch a VM of whatever OS they want to play whatever game they want is probably better off just installing it on a seperate partition, because there's no sense in playing a game while running 2 operating systems at once.
Perhaps the only failure in your logic is that your preventative action is exactly the kind of action you are trying to prevent.
For example, I know they frisk students for weapons in some high schools. You could go and argue that it's an invasion of their privacy to inspect what might be concealed in their clothing. You can go on about how it inconviences hundreds or thousands of students, by making them stand in a line before getting on campus. Point is - its in place to reduce crime, and it works. It's not 100% effective but we've seen what happens when we don't.
We've also seen lots of student shootings, students who are simply venting. Columbine. Virginia tech. If you had advanced knowledge of this kind of thing, wouldn't you want to prevent it? That's all that they did.
She can message a facebook friend. She can IM them. She can use Email.
There are plenty of private ways to communicate on the internet. Posting on your wall is NOT private. It's quite the opposite, its demanding attention.
I don't think it's unfair to kick her off campus for those kinds of remarks. If I were a student in her class, and I heard her mumble "I just want to kill everyone in this class", I'd be pretty concerned for my own safety.
Pretty much, if she had vented about her day in any way that didn't involve threatening anyone, this wouldn't have happened, and that is entirely her fault.
Yes - it SHOULD discourage the expression of similar thoughts, because sometimes that expression is MURDER.
And asking if students are any safer is a question that can't be answered, and you know it. There is no measure of how effective these policies are since life as we know it isn't a controlled experiment. Correlation is not causation.
I can argue that this woman might have murdered someone just as much as you can argue this woman might not have murdered anyone. There is no way to tell what would have happened, we stopped it before it could.
Now, given that we knew there was a chance, IE, her expression implied that she had those thoughts, I think its best we NOT roll the dice, don't leave that to chance, and stop a potential murder. It's not like she is going to jail. It's not like she has been fined. She was taken off campus, for making death threats. That is about as minimal a punishment you can get for something this serious.
What she needed was to be forced to attend counseling.
For someone who manages their words with care, those are some pretty strong words. What if you go back to school and a loved one passes away. Would you then condone them forcing you to attend counseling?
(PS - I agree with everything else, it's silly to think that death threats on the net, real or not, wouldn't be taken seriously)
Yeah, but you don't say that kind of stuff publicly.
Would you say "I want to kill him..." If there were 3 police officers right beside you?
The only ridiculous thing about this is her actions. Free speech or not, Fake death threats or not, what she did was just plain stupid. Cry to yourself, not the world. Because only the government listens.
Yes, I understand that you guys have had some gruesome stuff happen at schools and all, but some dark and frustrated writing on a wall is no threat at all.
So you acknowledge this bad stuff happens.
Can you acknowledge that it can be prevented?
I would much rather a student be banned from 1 school for Emo behavior then having them run amock and killing several students.
Seriously, get you're head out of where its stuck. People could have been killed. 1 Person is inconvenienced.
What are you talking about? Britain is totally still a Monarchy. The news won't shut up about Queen Elizabeth this and Prince Henry that.
I mean they don't even have a constitution, just a handful of scattered laws and judgements that would take ages to find if the need arises. How can you possibly be expected to fight for your democratic rights if you can't use the internet to look up which document it's even filed under?
In the infaliable United States Democracy (in which I do not reside) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED, printed off, laminated, and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.
Shaw pulls the same Crap as Telus. I haven't tried Rogers but the flier they stick in my mailbox sounds about the same. And Vonage... I don't see why I'd go Voip if I've got a computer and Skype.
The only problem with that is that I've never encountered someone jumping to Linux without having prior usage of it.
I know only 1 other Linux user in my group of socialites, and we both used it for the first time in post secondary. After learning the ins and outs of it, we were able to branch out and look at other distros to see what works best for us.
Thats just my personal experience though, and its an incredibly small sample group, so I'm not saying thats what happens all the time, its just what I've come to believe.
I haven't, nor have I seen anyone, recommend a Linux distro to a non Linux user, generally because of that leap.
Does the distro work with your printer without any complicated installation procedures? Does the distro work with your audio hardware without any complicated installation procedures? Does the distro switch between all the resolutions supported by your video hardware? Does the distro have a reasonably good package installation mechanism? Does the distro support your applications without special package installation requirements?
Don't have/need a printer Don't need audio Only need 1 decent resolution A Live CD! The applications I need are -practically- built into the distro
Hooray for using Linux Distros as Servers, Routers, and other @ home network enhancements!
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The Law has nothing to do with it! You said yourself she didn't do anything illegal, and I agree with that. She isn't being charged, convicted, or anything to do with the law.
She expressed her violent intent publicly, and in the interest of safety on Campus, they kept her away from there. Nothing illegal about that either.
I don't know if you've noticed, but people have been sued over things that they've said. Libelous claims, slander, false advertisement, and all that.
Where do YOU draw the line for freedom of speech?
People are accountable for their words. If you make threats, you are accountable for them.
It's not a thought crime though, she clearly expressed that she planned on murdering someone. Whether she was going to do it or not doesn't matter, she practically admitted to it.
No, I think I get what you're saying, and you're right.
But are you saying that there could be someone out there who is wanting to play multiple games at once, or rather - 3 positions in the same Game?
That's intense. I feel inadequate now.
Of 4 people managing about 1200 machines across Canada (yes, and I'm not exagerating) - we use this program called Track-It! by Numara.
It does well enough for us, lets us assign different tasks to different technicians, give them different prioritees, expected completed dates, notes and all that nice stuff. The only thing it doesn't really do is sub-tasks. It does handle Attachments, Prioritization, and you can set it up to generate these projects based on incoming emails (emailing support@mycompany.com will generate a task for your technicians to do).
However, I don't feel like thats the one for you. For about 4 months I worked with a company called Neosystems, and they have a project called iTrak . It sounds alot like what you are using for.
At any given time, I need to be able to jump back to one of these items and pick up where I left off. CHECK ... for hierarchical subtasks, CHECK attachments CHECK, and prioritization CHECK. Ideally it would be a desktop app, but a locally-hostable web app CHECK would be okay. In some of these projects I may want to include proprietary information, which I really don't want floating out in the cloud outside of my control *
*That last part, I'm not entirely sure of. From what I recall, they push their updates to all their clients at once, which makes it sound like the business is hosting the application. However, they're a relatively small company, with a great product. It was a real pleasure working on it, but sorting out AJAX bugs just got the better of me, I was fresh out of post secondary. I highly recommend checking them out, maybe giving them a call to see if their product will work for you.
When I make a death threat - you are free to. When I make Multiple death threats, I expect you to.
But why eat up twice the memory to run 2 Operating systems to run a graphicly intensive game instead of partitioning it and having a dual boot option?
It does not do accelerated 3d. That is clearly one of the main features for 'normal' users trying to play games in their VM.
The only games I play on a VM are the ones too old to work on XP, designed for DOS and pre 95 windows.
And believe me, they do not need accelerated 3d.
Anyone who is able to launch a VM of whatever OS they want to play whatever game they want is probably better off just installing it on a seperate partition, because there's no sense in playing a game while running 2 operating systems at once.
Perhaps the only failure in your logic is that your preventative action is exactly the kind of action you are trying to prevent.
For example, I know they frisk students for weapons in some high schools. You could go and argue that it's an invasion of their privacy to inspect what might be concealed in their clothing. You can go on about how it inconviences hundreds or thousands of students, by making them stand in a line before getting on campus. Point is - its in place to reduce crime, and it works. It's not 100% effective but we've seen what happens when we don't.
We've also seen lots of student shootings, students who are simply venting. Columbine. Virginia tech. If you had advanced knowledge of this kind of thing, wouldn't you want to prevent it? That's all that they did.
She can message a facebook friend. She can IM them. She can use Email.
There are plenty of private ways to communicate on the internet. Posting on your wall is NOT private. It's quite the opposite, its demanding attention.
I don't think it's unfair to kick her off campus for those kinds of remarks. If I were a student in her class, and I heard her mumble "I just want to kill everyone in this class", I'd be pretty concerned for my own safety.
Pretty much, if she had vented about her day in any way that didn't involve threatening anyone, this wouldn't have happened, and that is entirely her fault.
Yes - it SHOULD discourage the expression of similar thoughts, because sometimes that expression is MURDER.
And asking if students are any safer is a question that can't be answered, and you know it. There is no measure of how effective these policies are since life as we know it isn't a controlled experiment. Correlation is not causation.
I can argue that this woman might have murdered someone just as much as you can argue this woman might not have murdered anyone. There is no way to tell what would have happened, we stopped it before it could.
Now, given that we knew there was a chance, IE, her expression implied that she had those thoughts, I think its best we NOT roll the dice, don't leave that to chance, and stop a potential murder. It's not like she is going to jail. It's not like she has been fined. She was taken off campus, for making death threats. That is about as minimal a punishment you can get for something this serious.
Badoom psh!
What she needed was to be forced to attend counseling.
For someone who manages their words with care, those are some pretty strong words. What if you go back to school and a loved one passes away. Would you then condone them forcing you to attend counseling?
(PS - I agree with everything else, it's silly to think that death threats on the net, real or not, wouldn't be taken seriously)
Yeah, but you don't say that kind of stuff publicly.
Would you say "I want to kill him..." If there were 3 police officers right beside you?
The only ridiculous thing about this is her actions. Free speech or not, Fake death threats or not, what she did was just plain stupid. Cry to yourself, not the world. Because only the government listens.
Unless the plan is to raise suspicion...
Yes, I understand that you guys have had some gruesome stuff happen at schools and all, but some dark and frustrated writing on a wall is no threat at all.
So you acknowledge this bad stuff happens.
Can you acknowledge that it can be prevented?
I would much rather a student be banned from 1 school for Emo behavior then having them run amock and killing several students.
Seriously, get you're head out of where its stuck. People could have been killed. 1 Person is inconvenienced.
I was just pointing out that I don't even use Linux as a Desktop. I use it for everything else.
Oh I know, it's just annoying how she still manages to make the front page being nothing more than a Celebrity that doesn't make movies or music.
In a couple of decades Shuttleworth, Torvalds, and Stallman will all be old enough to take on this project themselves.
"I don't know what Linux is I just know that I want it."
Good God. That sounds terrible.
Was it FreeBSD?
What are you talking about? Britain is totally still a Monarchy. The news won't shut up about Queen Elizabeth this and Prince Henry that.
I mean they don't even have a constitution, just a handful of scattered laws and judgements that would take ages to find if the need arises. How can you possibly be expected to fight for your democratic rights if you can't use the internet to look up which document it's even filed under?
In the infaliable United States Democracy (in which I do not reside) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED, printed off, laminated, and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.
The UK used to be cool?
When was this, when it was occupied by the Romans?
Move to CHINA.
At least there you'll have access to Socialist Propaganda!
Shaw pulls the same Crap as Telus. I haven't tried Rogers but the flier they stick in my mailbox sounds about the same. And Vonage... I don't see why I'd go Voip if I've got a computer and Skype.
The only problem with that is that I've never encountered someone jumping to Linux without having prior usage of it.
I know only 1 other Linux user in my group of socialites, and we both used it for the first time in post secondary. After learning the ins and outs of it, we were able to branch out and look at other distros to see what works best for us.
Thats just my personal experience though, and its an incredibly small sample group, so I'm not saying thats what happens all the time, its just what I've come to believe.
I haven't, nor have I seen anyone, recommend a Linux distro to a non Linux user, generally because of that leap.
Does the distro work with your printer without any complicated installation procedures?
Does the distro work with your audio hardware without any complicated installation procedures?
Does the distro switch between all the resolutions supported by your video hardware?
Does the distro have a reasonably good package installation mechanism?
Does the distro support your applications without special package installation requirements?
Don't have/need a printer
Don't need audio
Only need 1 decent resolution
A Live CD!
The applications I need are -practically- built into the distro
Hooray for using Linux Distros as Servers, Routers, and other @ home network enhancements!