The OS X version is also pretty unstable. Its crashed every time I've run it within 5 seconds of startup sans once. Have tried running it off of a clean reboot with nothing else running and it still goes "bonk". Has anyone else seen this? I had that, too, after importing my old (v.6-era) keys. Trashed the prefs (search for pgp...they're obvious) and then all is well.
I downloaded the Mac OS X beta version and it's so cool looking. Very few of the applications that I get for Mac OS X look like real Mac OS X apps, but this one looks like it was built from the ground up for this OS. Excellent job, keep up the good work PGP! Yep. I just wish that it had a full-fledged plug-in for Entourage X (like Apple Mail's) vs the AppleScript. That being said, I wonder in this post 9/11 era (gack, guess which option I picked in last week's poll?) how many back doors are coded in for our friendly law enforcement?
Pardon me if I don't see what the story is here. MSDN subscriber downloads are for paying customers of Microsoft to download various Microsoft products. You already have to have an account with Microsoft to use the subscriber downloads. Microsoft already has personal contact information for you as an MSDN subscriber since they need to send you your monthly shipments. Microsoft isn't getting any new information about you that they didn't have before.
Well, what what about the situation where the only way a US customer can register Office 2001 (Mac) is via the web...and, of course, you have to have a Passport to do so. What value-added anything does one ever get from Microsoft registration?
Lars, on the other hand, has rejected napster. He has made derogatory comments toward napster, he has alienated 330,000 of his fans, he got a lot of bad publicity, he loses money from the people who are sick of his actions and refuse to buy metallica CD's.
What all the artists and regular people saying the evils of napster seem to forget is that NAPSTER IS FOR AND BY PEOPLE WHO LOVE MUSIC!
Good for Lars. One could argue that no one loves it more than those who create it. And with the denizens of Napster et.alia free to steal it at will, what incentive is there for the artists to create? If they stop, what will you do?
I thought Linux didn't have streams, just sockets. (thank god!)
Why 'thank god'? Both Netware and Solaris (both using Mentat streams) can push some serious data. And if you take the streams like Apple uses in OpenTransport, it's highly extendable.
My understanding is that they are having massive problems rewriting the Novell client to run under 2.2.x kernels. Something about how STREAMS are implemented differently. They also had a full NetWare server running on Linux. This will probably go away as Novell has announced NDS for Linux.
They're getting there. The client is stable now and they're really working with integrating the X admin stuff with KDE. It's looking good.
True geeks, technophiles, and the digirati will acknowledge that the G4 is an impressive CPU. But these people will also point out that Apple has coupled their G4 with the same uninspiring graphics chipset from ATI, as well as with the aging MacOS (we are, of course, promised Apple's next OS real soon now). And let's not forget the Apple strategy that has remained unchanged throughout its history: the Apple price premium. Why, most geeks would ask, would I pay 10-20% more for a machine simply because it has translucent plastic and the Apple logo?
What would your clone prices be if they had to do all of their own OS R&D and their own hardware R&D?
At our work it has. Especially when we were using 4.10. It was crashing all the time. Even 5 has had it's kinks. Though I suspect the Novell admin isn't too good at what he does. I have a P200 with 128 Megs of RAM doing DHCP, DNS, mail for 150 users,some light file sharing, and my test server for mod_perl programs and database connectivty.
If the hardware is stable, then the only problems I've seen with NetWare is due to admin misconfiguration. NDS across multiple servers can get especially hairy if the time synchronization isn't setup correctly. I'm used to 130 day uptimes...
Why so short?? We just had an unplanned power outage a few weeks back. Stopped the 3.12 server at 487(!) days; 2 4.1 servers at 2xx (don't know those #'s like the 3.12) and a 4.11 server at 112 days (that was short because it had its only abend in its life and had to be rebooted).
OTOH, it also stopped our linux mail server (qmail) which had been up since it was built last fall.
The bottom line is, though, that both--when configured properly--are extremely stable. NT can't claim that....Well, I suppose they could, but it ain't true....
Sure, it is easy with an unlimited hardware budget to get NT4 to run but that is not the real world!
One other key thing to note is is that all of the tests (including/especially ZDNet's) have all of the workstations plugged into a switch, in addition to the servers.
Is it me or is that not real world at all? Real world is (maybe) the servers are on a switched backbone with the workstations plugged into a standard concentrator.
I think that one of the reasons that NT is doing better in these tests than it seems to in the real world are that the environments are tailored to make NT work as well as possible by making it do as little as possible, eg, switches, smart Intel NICs, test data entirely in RAM (no disk I/O), and other boguns like that.
Why would you say "it must really suck to be Caldera right now"?
...we are going to be releasing a new distribution that has features the rest of the distributions will most likely be emulating eventually.
I admit I was a little surprised to see that Novell had invested in RedHat, not Caldera. Even if they're your future investors, this doesn't look too good since you add the most integration for them.
Anyway, I bought the retail (big $$) 1.3 distro for the Netware integration and was more than a bit disappointed. No glibc, netware utils keeping me at 2.0.35, and all mostly oldversions of software and rather useless documention. Trying to upgrade any of the pieces (such as netatalk to a recent asun version) led to total dependency hell.
I ended up reinstalling my Cheap Bytes CD from #1. Sure, I'm back to using ncpfs and no admin utils--but at least I'm happy now.
I sure hope the next distro is better....I will say, though, that it was well done (lisa is nice; the OpenDos Dosemu was great--and everything worked unlike the average redhat install); it just seemed to be a year out-of-date.
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The OS X version is also pretty unstable. Its crashed every time I've run it within 5 seconds of startup sans once. Have tried running it off of a clean reboot with nothing else running and it still goes "bonk". Has anyone else seen this?
I had that, too, after importing my old (v.6-era) keys. Trashed the prefs (search for pgp...they're obvious) and then all is well.
I downloaded the Mac OS X beta version and it's so cool looking. Very few of the applications that I get for Mac OS X look like real Mac OS X apps, but this one looks like it was built from the ground up for this OS. Excellent job, keep up the good work PGP!
Yep. I just wish that it had a full-fledged plug-in for Entourage X (like Apple Mail's) vs the AppleScript.
That being said, I wonder in this post 9/11 era (gack, guess which option I picked in last week's poll?) how many back doors are coded in for our friendly law enforcement?
Gack.
Well, what what about the situation where the only way a US customer can register Office 2001 (Mac) is via the web...and, of course, you have to have a Passport to do so. What value-added anything does one ever get from Microsoft registration?
No thanks.....
What all the artists and regular people saying the evils of napster seem to forget is that NAPSTER IS FOR AND BY PEOPLE WHO LOVE MUSIC!
Good for Lars. One could argue that no one loves it more than those who create it. And with the denizens of Napster et.alia free to steal it at will, what incentive is there for the artists to create? If they stop, what will you do?
Jeez, that's like saying that murder's only illegal as long as the law's on the books. Kinda ignoring the ethics of this, aren't you?
....I can't believe that no one posted that softlock is running apache on linux. ;-)
Why 'thank god'? Both Netware and Solaris (both using Mentat streams) can push some serious data. And if you take the streams like Apple uses in OpenTransport, it's highly extendable.
They're getting there. The client is stable now and they're really working with integrating the X admin stuff with KDE. It's looking good.
What would your clone prices be if they had to do all of their own OS R&D and their own hardware R&D?
Great closing line!
If the hardware is stable, then the only problems I've seen with NetWare is due to admin misconfiguration. NDS across multiple servers can get especially hairy if the time synchronization isn't setup correctly. I'm used to 130 day uptimes...
Why so short?? We just had an unplanned power outage a few weeks back. Stopped the 3.12 server at 487(!) days; 2 4.1 servers at 2xx (don't know those #'s like the 3.12) and a 4.11 server at 112 days (that was short because it had its only abend in its life and had to be rebooted).OTOH, it also stopped our linux mail server (qmail) which had been up since it was built last fall.
The bottom line is, though, that both--when configured properly--are extremely stable. NT can't claim that....Well, I suppose they could, but it ain't true....
One other key thing to note is is that all of the tests (including/especially ZDNet's) have all of the workstations plugged into a switch, in addition to the servers.
Is it me or is that not real world at all? Real world is (maybe) the servers are on a switched backbone with the workstations plugged into a standard concentrator.
I think that one of the reasons that NT is doing better in these tests than it seems to in the real world are that the environments are tailored to make NT work as well as possible by making it do as little as possible, eg, switches, smart Intel NICs, test data entirely in RAM (no disk I/O), and other boguns like that.
Yawn....
I admit I was a little surprised to see that Novell had invested in RedHat, not Caldera. Even if they're your future investors, this doesn't look too good since you add the most integration for them.
Anyway, I bought the retail (big $$) 1.3 distro for the Netware integration and was more than a bit disappointed. No glibc, netware utils keeping me at 2.0.35, and all mostly oldversions of software and rather useless documention. Trying to upgrade any of the pieces (such as netatalk to a recent asun version) led to total dependency hell.
I ended up reinstalling my Cheap Bytes CD from #1. Sure, I'm back to using ncpfs and no admin utils--but at least I'm happy now.
I sure hope the next distro is better....I will say, though, that it was well done (lisa is nice; the OpenDos Dosemu was great--and everything worked unlike the average redhat install); it just seemed to be a year out-of-date.
Once even a small portion of the Linux development community gets religious about usability and human factors issues
Umm, usability factors coming from Windoze programmers? Not freaking likely....