that discusses why Open Source hasn't taken off that well among the Mac
as i was fond of writing on many exam papers at school, the question has insufficient information/not clearly defined.
Software and Open-Source-Software are two products, imo, not variations on the one.
To the majority of the Mac community, software is what they see, what they interact with. To a programmer, software is lines of code - getting only a compiled version of a program leaves programmers feeling like they're missing the most important part of the whole thing.
what software is depends on the user's perspective. open source is irrelevant to most Mac people as source code is nothing to them.
Unless they're actually intruding, i.e. busting through firewalls or cracking in some way, it seems that this falls well within "fair use" of TCP/IP
sure, no problem. everyone on/. please ping/traceroute this company constantly, it's fair use. i wonder how many complaints they'll have after a six month long/.'ing.
Steed said he hated it when people don't have a passion for what they're doing, but only in it for the money...
that being the case, these games need to do more than simply serve their purpose, they must be everything they can possibly be within the confines of the story.
Wolfenstein was supposed to be more interactive too.. changing uniforms with guards, etc. but they dropped it.
begin rant..
id simply can't make the best single-player game. it's just not possible. they keep removing the things that a single player game needs (interactivity) and upping the action instead (which is what multiplayer games need).
when i play single player, i do so just as much for the immersion in the world as i do for the action. a game needs to impress me with graphics, level design, interactivity, etc. Brown, Brown and more Brown just does NOT cut it when you're trying to create a realistic environment to impress a player. perhaps Carmack & Co. always got stuck with the brown crayon in kindergarten. well guys, you can afford all those cars, maybe you can spring for a box of your very own crayons and discover all the wonders of a rainbow of colours.
and before you go fsck it up with the next DOOM, learn a lesson from daikatana - DON'T ANNOY THE PLAYER. Thats the primary reason I stopped playing arcade games. If your game is so shit you have to resort to limited lives, limited saves, limited ammo, impossible enemies, key hunts, cheating AI, etc. to challenge the player, your game is WORTHLESS.
a) is there any particular reason why it can't be sent into the sun? i think it would burn up rather nicely before it even got close to the 'surface'. of course the sun is the last entity we should go playing with if we weren't sure of the results.. if we fsck it up, we're all in a right spot of bother. Also, McNealy would probably be majorly pissed when a few 100 tons of nuclear waste lands in his office as well.
b) doesn't this thing have brakes/thrusters or something? can't it just be stopped dead in space? or would other planets' gravity start to drag it about?
If you pay $20K for a new car, you expect to get a working car. If it doesn't work, you have the right to repair, refund or replacement. It stems from the basic concept that your money should be exchanged for a good of similar worth.
by this logic, what's the problem providing warranty on $free software? you paid nothing for it, i'll be more than happy to refund you nothing if it fucks up.
OTOH, IANAL, unless warranty includes damages caused by said software fucking up. in which case NO software should come with a warranty, since some prat will sue for $30mil when they discover FDISK erased all their data. The legal system is fucked because people abused it, now the people have to suffer.
No RPM locking dependancy. If there's an issue, you can upgrade from source quickly
Whereas I find something like Red Hat restrictive and holey (like very old briefs which haven't been taken care of). Why anyone would run Red Hat (or derivatives), or even Debian, is "beyond me"...
WTF are you smoking? A distro based on RPM, DEB or whatever isn't locked into that format. You can install/upgrade or do whatever you like to any program using standard source tarballs (just dont expect the packager to keep track of it). If you prefer to use RPM/DEB for package X and not package Y, just uninstall package Y using the package manager, then install from source..
twit.
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Yes, I know that I'm confusing the corporation with its employees. It is theoretically possible that the government could punish MS without harming a single human being... but I wouldn't bet on it.)
fine them a ton. how much actual cash does MS have? tons I bet... leave them with enough money to operate for a year and use the rest to finance upstarts and other competitors who genuinly need the money
MS will have to play nice for a while cos those lawyers will cut into their operating budget.
pretend for a sec they are being asked to open the source, not just the APIs...
So I can see the code.. exactly what does IP protect here? Even if I don't copy a line from the code, I can easily reimplement algorithms used by MS. That's not right (IMO if a company want to stop people learning how to code from theirs, so be it. it bites, but it's their code, they paid for it to be created).
now try ENFORCE the license that says you're not allowed to use the source or any algorithms presented in it in your own work. Bwaha, not gonna happen.
OTOH... standards should always be open, no? that's the idea of having them anyway...
MS' products are the defacto standard for PCs.. taking that into consideration, perhaps the monopoly laws that cover the computer industry should be changed to state that, while your company controls more than 50% of a particular area (say, Windows or Office), that product must be completely open source. The company is free to restrict it's use however they like, provided that file formats and any other structures needed to communicate with Product in question are free from restrictions, and the source is included with the binary distribution you paid for.
the only problem I see is with technology licensed from outside companies... all the more reason for a modular design I suppose.
Calling OS/2 OO is like calling Linux OO. The WPS is OO, not OS/2. You do something without going via the WPS you're screwed, all your OO stuff is ratshit.
OS/2 also doesn't have the DOS background that Windows98 does
OS/2 IS DOS - a 32bit DOS. that's what it was designed to be. the pretty interface didn't show up until after they realised they were dead in the water against Microsoft.
more stable than Windows NT or OS/2, and easier to use than anything
What a load of shit. it's not released yet. it's not being used in the Real World{tm}. How could you or anyone possibly make such a comparison?
BTW, IMO, FWIW: 'ease of use' is inversly proportional to the user's IQ.
How about a license to connect to the Information Super Highway
i second that motion. under 18's are not permitted to surf without a class A geek supervising, thus preventing them from 'accidentally' finding pr0n sites, etc.
I'll concede that it was more of an oversight or omission than an error
Ah, fairy-nuff..
Methinks you're referring to an older version of VMS
It's OpenVMS, I dunno what version. Maybe the dude that did the training course was a little out of date, the course was only 1/3 about VMS, we were there to learn the app running on it
As for the drive letters: I never found the drive naming to be a problem
DOS was the first OS I really experienced (never played with the OS on my first computer, a vic20) which lasted about 5 or 6 years, until i first experienced unix. I just clicked with it from day one.. it's just so clean and logical. VMS on the other hand just doesn't speak to me, vla1:[0,0] is just twisted, IMO. Then you get phunky with symbols and get shit like com$mgr and stuff.. this would have been just dandy in my DOS days, but after experiencing UNIX, it just seems a little backward...
What kind of ``cluster'' is this, I wonder.
NFI, but the theory is, if one node goes belly up, the other(s) will just take over.. at least that's what the support people reckon. Problem is, we are getting hardware failures every couple of months, Compaq's hardware crowd are probably on the support peoples' speed-dial
It sounds like you mean hardware fault tolerance. Buy a Tandem or a Stratus.
The VMS setup is replacing one of our Tandems (a rather unpopular decision company wide). Tandem still isn't perfect, losing a CPU still causes problems, how severe depends on what was running on it.. sometimes nobody notices until we get a PUPCHECK message, other times we lose a couple hundred terminals or something:)
Of course, you gotta have some pretty deep pockets to consider those hardware platforms.
Yeah, we do:)
rtscts? Gee, I'm still getting by with xonxoff.
heh:) My BBS has been running sweet on hardware flow control for the better part of a decade.. I highly recommend the upgrade! Though aparently OS/2 might not be such a good move considering recent events...
I mean by default, the versions of RH I have use Postgres, Apache is compiled with Postgres support for PHP (I don't know how the Perl stuff works, maybe it doesn't need to be compiled with any particular DB support?). Why make things more difficult when other distros use mysql by default?
though if they're going to recompile anyway, it doesn't matter..
You can still buy VAX architecture systems from Compaq blah, blah, blah...
er, so? how's that an error in my comment (which was also marked AFAIK)
You're wrong. My guess is that if you had any real experience with VMS it was on a poorly configured and managed system.
Poorly configured is an understatement - though I dunno how much better it can get, with a FAT-like file system and drive letters on steroids.. BARF. And I dunno who make's Compaq's hardware, but it bites.
VMS and UNIX to be more alike than either of their most rabid proponents are willing to admit
Well, if you can make that statement, you're infinitely more experienced than me. The only similarities between them I can see is the rabid-ness of the zealots who use em.
Most of what the UNIX community calls clusters is really just a failover capability
bwahahaha!! our main cluster has three nodes, and it has yet to compensate for a single hardware failure (even some HDD failures have crippled the thing, and they're supposed to be RAID!!)
why RH for the SQL server when the rest are Debian? RH runs Postgres, not MySQL...
switching requires a recompile of Apache - a royal PITA IME to get all the modules to compile. On my box, I ended up copying the Apache RPM's from my Mandrake CD instead (can't run mandrake, it won't install and running the non-GUI installer requires more effort than just booting off the CD)
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hence 'in theory' :)
that discusses why Open Source hasn't taken off that well among the Mac
as i was fond of writing on many exam papers at school, the question has insufficient information/not clearly defined.
Software and Open-Source-Software are two products, imo, not variations on the one.
To the majority of the Mac community, software is what they see, what they interact with. To a programmer, software is lines of code - getting only a compiled version of a program leaves programmers feeling like they're missing the most important part of the whole thing.
what software is depends on the user's perspective. open source is irrelevant to most Mac people as source code is nothing to them.
There's two buttons
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TWO buttons, OMG! how ever did you manage to figure it out?
Unless they're actually intruding, i.e. busting through firewalls or cracking in some way, it seems that this falls well within "fair use" of TCP/IP
/. please ping/traceroute this company constantly, it's fair use. i wonder how many complaints they'll have after a six month long /.'ing.
sure, no problem. everyone on
Steed said he hated it when people don't have a passion for what they're doing, but only in it for the money...
that being the case, these games need to do more than simply serve their purpose, they must be everything they can possibly be within the confines of the story.
Wolfenstein was supposed to be more interactive too.. changing uniforms with guards, etc. but they dropped it.
begin rant..
id simply can't make the best single-player game. it's just not possible. they keep removing the things that a single player game needs (interactivity) and upping the action instead (which is what multiplayer games need).
when i play single player, i do so just as much for the immersion in the world as i do for the action. a game needs to impress me with graphics, level design, interactivity, etc. Brown, Brown and more Brown just does NOT cut it when you're trying to create a realistic environment to impress a player. perhaps Carmack & Co. always got stuck with the brown crayon in kindergarten. well guys, you can afford all those cars, maybe you can spring for a box of your very own crayons and discover all the wonders of a rainbow of colours.
and before you go fsck it up with the next DOOM, learn a lesson from daikatana - DON'T ANNOY THE PLAYER. Thats the primary reason I stopped playing arcade games. If your game is so shit you have to resort to limited lives, limited saves, limited ammo, impossible enemies, key hunts, cheating AI, etc. to challenge the player, your game is WORTHLESS.
end rant
with a wife/gf he can get the 'real thing' (in theory)
this'll be just perfect for those one-handed web surfers...
a) is there any particular reason why it can't be sent into the sun? i think it would burn up rather nicely before it even got close to the 'surface'. of course the sun is the last entity we should go playing with if we weren't sure of the results.. if we fsck it up, we're all in a right spot of bother. Also, McNealy would probably be majorly pissed when a few 100 tons of nuclear waste lands in his office as well.
b) doesn't this thing have brakes/thrusters or something? can't it just be stopped dead in space? or would other planets' gravity start to drag it about?
If you pay $20K for a new car, you expect to get a working car. If it doesn't work, you have the right to repair, refund or replacement. It stems from the basic concept that your money should be exchanged for a good of similar worth.
by this logic, what's the problem providing warranty on $free software? you paid nothing for it, i'll be more than happy to refund you nothing if it fucks up.
OTOH, IANAL, unless warranty includes damages caused by said software fucking up. in which case NO software should come with a warranty, since some prat will sue for $30mil when they discover FDISK erased all their data. The legal system is fucked because people abused it, now the people have to suffer.
No RPM locking dependancy. If there's an issue, you can upgrade from source quickly
Whereas I find something like Red Hat restrictive and holey (like very old briefs which haven't been taken care of). Why anyone would run Red Hat (or derivatives), or even Debian, is "beyond me"...
WTF are you smoking? A distro based on RPM, DEB or whatever isn't locked into that format. You can install/upgrade or do whatever you like to any program using standard source tarballs (just dont expect the packager to keep track of it). If you prefer to use RPM/DEB for package X and not package Y, just uninstall package Y using the package manager, then install from source..
twit.
i'm not seeing a downside...
Yes, I know that I'm confusing the corporation with its employees. It is theoretically possible that the government could punish MS without harming a single human being... but I wouldn't bet on it.)
fine them a ton. how much actual cash does MS have? tons I bet... leave them with enough money to operate for a year and use the rest to finance upstarts and other competitors who genuinly need the money
MS will have to play nice for a while cos those lawyers will cut into their operating budget.
pretend for a sec they are being asked to open the source, not just the APIs...
So I can see the code.. exactly what does IP protect here? Even if I don't copy a line from the code, I can easily reimplement algorithms used by MS. That's not right (IMO if a company want to stop people learning how to code from theirs, so be it. it bites, but it's their code, they paid for it to be created).
now try ENFORCE the license that says you're not allowed to use the source or any algorithms presented in it in your own work. Bwaha, not gonna happen.
OTOH... standards should always be open, no? that's the idea of having them anyway...
MS' products are the defacto standard for PCs.. taking that into consideration, perhaps the monopoly laws that cover the computer industry should be changed to state that, while your company controls more than 50% of a particular area (say, Windows or Office), that product must be completely open source. The company is free to restrict it's use however they like, provided that file formats and any other structures needed to communicate with Product in question are free from restrictions, and the source is included with the binary distribution you paid for.
the only problem I see is with technology licensed from outside companies... all the more reason for a modular design I suppose.
it would appear to be an ordinary file with the name MySissy
actually, if it was called MySissy.mpg.exe it would appear as MySissy.mpg as only the LAST period counts as the file extension.
OS/2 provides a real object-oriented API
Calling OS/2 OO is like calling Linux OO. The WPS is OO, not OS/2. You do something without going via the WPS you're screwed, all your OO stuff is ratshit.
OS/2 also doesn't have the DOS background that Windows98 does
OS/2 IS DOS - a 32bit DOS. that's what it was designed to be. the pretty interface didn't show up until after they realised they were dead in the water against Microsoft.
more stable than Windows NT or OS/2, and easier to use than anything
What a load of shit. it's not released yet. it's not being used in the Real World{tm}. How could you or anyone possibly make such a comparison?
BTW, IMO, FWIW: 'ease of use' is inversly proportional to the user's IQ.
(Outlook, for example).
:)
sendmail, BIND, etc...
How about a license to connect to the Information Super Highway
i second that motion. under 18's are not permitted to surf without a class A geek supervising, thus preventing them from 'accidentally' finding pr0n sites, etc.
add 5 years of updated tech and you still got.... brown. 30 bits of brown and 2 bits of red.
there have been xbox prototypes ever since the first 3D accelerator hit the PC platform...
Quote for the day (good t-shirt to wear to school too):
those that can, do. those that can't, teach.
it's not likely we'll see any benifit from it. the prividers will just keep the extra cent per month it saves them per account.
get cable if you can. $60-70 for unlimited traffic (no servers though). $40 for a standard modem is a rort.
and remember, mirror.aarnet.edu.au - it's local so is faaaaaaaast.
I'll concede that it was more of an oversight or omission than an error
:)
:)
:)
Ah, fairy-nuff..
Methinks you're referring to an older version of VMS
It's OpenVMS, I dunno what version. Maybe the dude that did the training course was a little out of date, the course was only 1/3 about VMS, we were there to learn the app running on it
As for the drive letters: I never found the drive naming to be a problem
DOS was the first OS I really experienced (never played with the OS on my first computer, a vic20) which lasted about 5 or 6 years, until i first experienced unix. I just clicked with it from day one.. it's just so clean and logical. VMS on the other hand just doesn't speak to me, vla1:[0,0] is just twisted, IMO. Then you get phunky with symbols and get shit like com$mgr and stuff.. this would have been just dandy in my DOS days, but after experiencing UNIX, it just seems a little backward...
What kind of ``cluster'' is this, I wonder.
NFI, but the theory is, if one node goes belly up, the other(s) will just take over.. at least that's what the support people reckon. Problem is, we are getting hardware failures every couple of months, Compaq's hardware crowd are probably on the support peoples' speed-dial
It sounds like you mean hardware fault tolerance. Buy a Tandem or a Stratus.
The VMS setup is replacing one of our Tandems (a rather unpopular decision company wide). Tandem still isn't perfect, losing a CPU still causes problems, how severe depends on what was running on it.. sometimes nobody notices until we get a PUPCHECK message, other times we lose a couple hundred terminals or something
Of course, you gotta have some pretty deep pockets to consider those hardware platforms.
Yeah, we do
rtscts? Gee, I'm still getting by with xonxoff.
heh
My BBS has been running sweet on hardware flow control for the better part of a decade.. I highly recommend the upgrade! Though aparently OS/2 might not be such a good move considering recent events...
I mean by default, the versions of RH I have use Postgres, Apache is compiled with Postgres support for PHP (I don't know how the Perl stuff works, maybe it doesn't need to be compiled with any particular DB support?). Why make things more difficult when other distros use mysql by default?
though if they're going to recompile anyway, it doesn't matter..
You can still buy VAX architecture systems from Compaq blah, blah, blah...
er, so? how's that an error in my comment (which was also marked AFAIK)
You're wrong. My guess is that if you had any real experience with VMS it was on a poorly configured and managed system.
Poorly configured is an understatement - though I dunno how much better it can get, with a FAT-like file system and drive letters on steroids.. BARF. And I dunno who make's Compaq's hardware, but it bites.
VMS and UNIX to be more alike than either of their most rabid proponents are willing to admit
Well, if you can make that statement, you're infinitely more experienced than me. The only similarities between them I can see is the rabid-ness of the zealots who use em.
Most of what the UNIX community calls clusters is really just a failover capability
bwahahaha!! our main cluster has three nodes, and it has yet to compensate for a single hardware failure (even some HDD failures have crippled the thing, and they're supposed to be RAID!!)
so would I..
why RH for the SQL server when the rest are Debian? RH runs Postgres, not MySQL...
switching requires a recompile of Apache - a royal PITA IME to get all the modules to compile. On my box, I ended up copying the Apache RPM's from my Mandrake CD instead (can't run mandrake, it won't install and running the non-GUI installer requires more effort than just booting off the CD)